The video I just saw from the trial of the Floyd incident with the audio of the crowd around looked pretty bad

[Care4all]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

He certainly seems negligent. The video I saw was pretty fucking bad. The cop may well just be a brazen dumb fuck. Intent to murder would have had to come in the moment...because they tried to put Floyd in the back of a cop car and he would not cooperate and he asked to lay on the ground.

I have no doubt he did something in the car to warrant his being tossed on the ground. But in cuffs with 4 cops, he did not need to be held with a knee on neck for over 9 minutes.

The racists are seeking justification for the public execution of a black man. Behavior while in custody, past record, drug use, anything.

When you see the entire video it's evident that Floyd was in a drugged mania state.

So what if he was? How would that give a cop justification for killing him? What kind of other stuff do you think offers approval for random cops to commit murder or manslaughter? Should random cops be allowed to commit other crimes?

Prove it was murder.

Not my job. We all saw him kill the guy. A judge and jury are in the process of determining if he committed murder or manslaughter, but we all saw the cop kill the guy.

No, you all THOUGHT you saw it, based on your "extensive" knowledge from watching TV, one assumes. The autopsy report tells us that Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck.

That's Not True.... the final autopsy report from the medical examiner ruled it a homicide due to the officer's restraining force....

What the medical examiner said killed him...


Dr. Stephen Nelson, chairman of Florida's medical examiners commission, who is not affiliated with the case, reviewed the new files and says that doesn't mean the drugs or health condition is what caused Floyd's death.

"We've all had cases where those kinds of of levels come into play. You've got to look at the whole picture," Nelson said. "It's one thing to die *with* something. It's another thing to die *from* something."

The documents say Baker performed the autopsy before watching the videos of police restraining Floyd, with Officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, because Baker wanted to avoid bias in his autopsy.

In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system

This guy isn't affiliated with the case. His opinion means absolutely nothing. On the other hand, he does admit that the cop wasn't responsible for the death because the victim had heart disease and a lethal dose of fentanyl. You can't convict the cop for murder if the victim had given himself a lethal dose of fentanyl. Case closed.

The medical examiner Baker, DID THE AUTOPSY silly one...., he determined the CAUSE OF DEATH.

What did he say was the cause of death, idiot.

Oh jiminee cricket!

I highlighted what the medical examiner put in his final report as the cause, several times in this thread...



In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression

The Medical Examiner Baker has no authority in this case. Your slight of hand didn't work.

Holy Toledo

You are being an IDIOT!!

THERE IS NO SLIGHT OF HAND

Dr. Baker, IS THE MEDICAL EXAMINER WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PERFORMING THE AUTOPSY ON GEORGE FLOYD...

Who in the hell do you think is responsible for determining the cause of death and did the autopsy?

Medical examiner: George Floyd had 'fatal level of fentanyl' in his system, but is 'not saying this killed him'

New court documents filed this week in the case against four Minneapolis police officers accused of murdering George Floyd provide new context to how he died. While the state medical examiner determined that Floyd’s death was a homicide due to the officers’ actions, new documents this week...

www.foxnews.com

Medical examiner: George Floyd had 'fatal level of fentanyl' in his system, but is 'not saying this killed him'
Dr. Michael Baden explains that a fatal dose for some people can barely affect others

New court documents filed this week in the case against four Minneapolis police officers charged in the death of George Floyd provide new context to how he died.

A memorandum filed by the Hennepin County Attorney’s office on June 1 indicated that chief medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, who listed Floyd’s death as a homicide, thought the amount of fentanyl in Floyd’s blood was “pretty high” and could be “a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances.”

“[Dr. Baker] said that if Mr. Floyd had been found dead in his home (or anywhere else) and there were no other contributing factors he would conclude that it was an overdose death,” the memo said.

According to another memo on June 1, Dr. Baker told investigators that while Floyd had a high amount of fentanyl in his system, he was “not saying this killed him.”


Baker listed in his autopsy that Floyd's death was the result of a “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.” Other significant conditions were listed as “arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent methamphetamine use.”

A federal evaluation performed by the Office of the Armed Forces medical examiner agreed with Baker’s findings that Floyd’s heart stopped while cops were restraining him.

Your post just declared that the cop is acquitted.

Say what????

 

[John T. Ford]

The crowd was pleading with police to let Floyd up....Floyd was obvously unconscious and unresponsive and the cop kept his knee on his neck.

The crowd is begging to check his pulse. I never saw this before. I thought the cop couldnt tell.

Fuck man....I dunno.

Has anyone seen that specific video before? With the crowd pleading with police? I had not.

Trials are great things, facts often com out.

I don't know if Chauvin is guilty of murder, but what he did was police brutality in any case.

Chauvin is guilty ...

 

[Blackrook]

If the police officer didn't kill him, but he died of drugs in his system...

If the police officer was following his training...

He will be acquitted, regardless of what the mob demands.

 

[Care4all]

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2020/06/01/file_attachments/1464238/2020-3700%20Floyd,%20George%20Perry%20Update%206.1.2020.pdf

Autopsy Report - George Perry Floyd

 

[Care4all]

If the police officer didn't kill him, but he died of drugs in his system...

If the police officer was following his training...

He will be acquitted, regardless of what the mob demands.

Chauvin's knee on the neck killed him.

But if it is determined he was following police training protocol for continued use of excessive force, he could possibly get off....

All the cops on the news shows say Chauvin did not follow police protocol for using excessive force... He did initially when Floyd refused to get in the car...but once Floyd was restrained, flat on the ground with handcuffs on him, arms behind the back, and he stopped fighting, excessive force is no longer authorized....

So, we'll see....

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's horrible. I dont know that it equates to murder but it looks very bad.

It's 10 minutes of a man begging for his life and being assassinated. It's more than horrible, it's evil.

No, it's 20 minutes of a guy trying to bullshit his way out of being arrested, while higher than a kite . . . of which you only saw 10 minutes, so that you would leap to the uninformed, emotional conclusion that you did.

All I heard is "please put me on ignore, I beg of you"

What a coincidence. What I just heard was, "I'm too much of a pussy to handle disagreement."

 

[Cecilie1200]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

Let’s say the claustrophobia part was totally made up. I’ll go even farther and say he was just trying to avoid going to jail. Chauvin exceeded the necessary time to hold down Floyd by what....3 minutes after he stopped “resisting”? Stupid comes in all occupations unfortunately.

Please show us the official document or training manual from which you drew your apparently arbitrary "necessary time".

 

[WEATHER53]

If the police officer didn't kill him, but he died of drugs in his system...

If the police officer was following his training...

He will be acquitted, regardless of what the mob demands.

Chauvin's knee on the neck killed him.

But if it is determined he was following police training protocol for continued use of excessive force, he could possibly get off....

All the cops on the news shows say Chauvin did not follow police protocol for using excessive force... He did initially when Floyd refused to get in the car...but once Floyd was restrained, flat on the ground with handcuffs on him, arms behind the back, and he stopped fighting, excessive force is no longer authorized....

So, we'll see....

Yep
We don’t see much of what got them to this point but they needed to reduce their level of force. What killed him exactly is hard to say and there may not be an exactly.

 

[BS Filter]

If the police officer didn't kill him, but he died of drugs in his system...

If the police officer was following his training...

He will be acquitted, regardless of what the mob demands.

Chauvin's knee on the neck killed him.

But if it is determined he was following police training protocol for continued use of excessive force, he could possibly get off....

All the cops on the news shows say Chauvin did not follow police protocol for using excessive force... He did initially when Floyd refused to get in the car...but once Floyd was restrained, flat on the ground with handcuffs on him, arms behind the back, and he stopped fighting, excessive force is no longer authorized....

So, we'll see....

Wrong. The autopsy report says there was no damage to the airway or throat. Why do you lie?

 

[BS Filter]

If the police officer didn't kill him, but he died of drugs in his system...

If the police officer was following his training...

He will be acquitted, regardless of what the mob demands.

Chauvin's knee on the neck killed him.

But if it is determined he was following police training protocol for continued use of excessive force, he could possibly get off....

All the cops on the news shows say Chauvin did not follow police protocol for using excessive force... He did initially when Floyd refused to get in the car...but once Floyd was restrained, flat on the ground with handcuffs on him, arms behind the back, and he stopped fighting, excessive force is no longer authorized....

So, we'll see....

You never concede the FACT that there was a LETHAL dose of Fentanyl in his body and he had heart disease. Why?

 

[irosie91]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

He certainly seems negligent. The video I saw was pretty fucking bad. The cop may well just be a brazen dumb fuck. Intent to murder would have had to come in the moment...because they tried to put Floyd in the back of a cop car and he would not cooperate and he asked to lay on the ground.

I have no doubt he did something in the car to warrant his being tossed on the ground. But in cuffs with 4 cops, he did not need to be held with a knee on neck for over 9 minutes.

The racists are seeking justification for the public execution of a black man. Behavior while in custody, past record, drug use, anything.

When you see the entire video it's evident that Floyd was in a drugged mania state.

So what if he was? How would that give a cop justification for killing him? What kind of other stuff do you think offers approval for random cops to commit murder or manslaughter? Should random cops be allowed to commit other crimes?

Prove it was murder.

Not my job. We all saw him kill the guy. A judge and jury are in the process of determining if he committed murder or manslaughter, but we all saw the cop kill the guy.

No, you all THOUGHT you saw it, based on your "extensive" knowledge from watching TV, one assumes. The autopsy report tells us that Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck.

That's Not True.... the final autopsy report from the medical examiner ruled it a homicide due to the officer's restraining force....

What the medical examiner said killed him...


Dr. Stephen Nelson, chairman of Florida's medical examiners commission, who is not affiliated with the case, reviewed the new files and says that doesn't mean the drugs or health condition is what caused Floyd's death.

"We've all had cases where those kinds of of levels come into play. You've got to look at the whole picture," Nelson said. "It's one thing to die *with* something. It's another thing to die *from* something."

The documents say Baker performed the autopsy before watching the videos of police restraining Floyd, with Officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, because Baker wanted to avoid bias in his autopsy.

In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system

This guy isn't affiliated with the case. His opinion means absolutely nothing. On the other hand, he does admit that the cop wasn't responsible for the death because the victim had heart disease and a lethal dose of fentanyl. You can't convict the cop for murder if the victim had given himself a lethal dose of fentanyl. Case closed.

The medical examiner Baker, DID THE AUTOPSY silly one...., he determined the CAUSE OF DEATH.

What did he say was the cause of death, idiot.

Oh jiminee cricket!

I highlighted what the medical examiner put in his final report as the cause, several times in this thread...



In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

"after watching the video"? The autopsies with which I have been familiar depended on EXAMINATION OF THE DEAD BODY-----grossly and microscopically -----and some lab tests

...read the article

he performed the autopsy, then he examined the evidence and circumstances.

still not impressed. Neck compression that leads to DEATH reveals actual tissue findings ON AUTOPSY---something----at least some crushed cartilage----asphyxiation leads to all kinds of stuff-----where are the "SLIDES" ? -----the little glass things to place on a microscope?

 

[Care4all]

If the police officer didn't kill him, but he died of drugs in his system...

If the police officer was following his training...

He will be acquitted, regardless of what the mob demands.

Chauvin's knee on the neck killed him.

But if it is determined he was following police training protocol for continued use of excessive force, he could possibly get off....

All the cops on the news shows say Chauvin did not follow police protocol for using excessive force... He did initially when Floyd refused to get in the car...but once Floyd was restrained, flat on the ground with handcuffs on him, arms behind the back, and he stopped fighting, excessive force is no longer authorized....

So, we'll see....

You never concede the FACT that there was a LETHAL dose of Fentanyl in his body and he had heart disease. Why?

I'm sorry you are suffering from dementia, and incapable of remembering or understanding what you read or what is real, or made up.

Have a nice evening.

 

[Care4all]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

He certainly seems negligent. The video I saw was pretty fucking bad. The cop may well just be a brazen dumb fuck. Intent to murder would have had to come in the moment...because they tried to put Floyd in the back of a cop car and he would not cooperate and he asked to lay on the ground.

I have no doubt he did something in the car to warrant his being tossed on the ground. But in cuffs with 4 cops, he did not need to be held with a knee on neck for over 9 minutes.

The racists are seeking justification for the public execution of a black man. Behavior while in custody, past record, drug use, anything.

When you see the entire video it's evident that Floyd was in a drugged mania state.

So what if he was? How would that give a cop justification for killing him? What kind of other stuff do you think offers approval for random cops to commit murder or manslaughter? Should random cops be allowed to commit other crimes?

Prove it was murder.

Not my job. We all saw him kill the guy. A judge and jury are in the process of determining if he committed murder or manslaughter, but we all saw the cop kill the guy.

No, you all THOUGHT you saw it, based on your "extensive" knowledge from watching TV, one assumes. The autopsy report tells us that Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck.

That's Not True.... the final autopsy report from the medical examiner ruled it a homicide due to the officer's restraining force....

What the medical examiner said killed him...


Dr. Stephen Nelson, chairman of Florida's medical examiners commission, who is not affiliated with the case, reviewed the new files and says that doesn't mean the drugs or health condition is what caused Floyd's death.

"We've all had cases where those kinds of of levels come into play. You've got to look at the whole picture," Nelson said. "It's one thing to die *with* something. It's another thing to die *from* something."

The documents say Baker performed the autopsy before watching the videos of police restraining Floyd, with Officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, because Baker wanted to avoid bias in his autopsy.

In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system

This guy isn't affiliated with the case. His opinion means absolutely nothing. On the other hand, he does admit that the cop wasn't responsible for the death because the victim had heart disease and a lethal dose of fentanyl. You can't convict the cop for murder if the victim had given himself a lethal dose of fentanyl. Case closed.

The medical examiner Baker, DID THE AUTOPSY silly one...., he determined the CAUSE OF DEATH.

What did he say was the cause of death, idiot.

Oh jiminee cricket!

I highlighted what the medical examiner put in his final report as the cause, several times in this thread...



In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

"after watching the video"? The autopsies with which I have been familiar depended on EXAMINATION OF THE DEAD BODY-----grossly and microscopically -----and some lab tests

...read the article

he performed the autopsy, then he examined the evidence and circumstances.

still not impressed. Neck compression that leads to DEATH reveals actual tissue findings ON AUTOPSY---something----at least some crushed cartilage----asphyxiation leads to all kinds of stuff-----where are the "SLIDES" ? -----the little glass things to place on a microscope?

Ask him. Or search for it....

Are you actually claiming the medical examiner did not do a proper autopsy?

Maybe you should volunteer for Chauvin's defense team to be an expert medical examiner....?

 

[Camp]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

He certainly seems negligent. The video I saw was pretty fucking bad. The cop may well just be a brazen dumb fuck. Intent to murder would have had to come in the moment...because they tried to put Floyd in the back of a cop car and he would not cooperate and he asked to lay on the ground.

I have no doubt he did something in the car to warrant his being tossed on the ground. But in cuffs with 4 cops, he did not need to be held with a knee on neck for over 9 minutes.

The racists are seeking justification for the public execution of a black man. Behavior while in custody, past record, drug use, anything.

When you see the entire video it's evident that Floyd was in a drugged mania state.

So what if he was? How would that give a cop justification for killing him? What kind of other stuff do you think offers approval for random cops to commit murder or manslaughter? Should random cops be allowed to commit other crimes?

Prove it was murder.

Not my job. We all saw him kill the guy. A judge and jury are in the process of determining if he committed murder or manslaughter, but we all saw the cop kill the guy.

No, you all THOUGHT you saw it, based on your "extensive" knowledge from watching TV, one assumes. The autopsy report tells us that Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck.

That's Not True.... the final autopsy report from the medical examiner ruled it a homicide due to the officer's restraining force....

What the medical examiner said killed him...


Dr. Stephen Nelson, chairman of Florida's medical examiners commission, who is not affiliated with the case, reviewed the new files and says that doesn't mean the drugs or health condition is what caused Floyd's death.

"We've all had cases where those kinds of of levels come into play. You've got to look at the whole picture," Nelson said. "It's one thing to die *with* something. It's another thing to die *from* something."

The documents say Baker performed the autopsy before watching the videos of police restraining Floyd, with Officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, because Baker wanted to avoid bias in his autopsy.

In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system

This guy isn't affiliated with the case. His opinion means absolutely nothing. On the other hand, he does admit that the cop wasn't responsible for the death because the victim had heart disease and a lethal dose of fentanyl. You can't convict the cop for murder if the victim had given himself a lethal dose of fentanyl. Case closed.

The medical examiner Baker, DID THE AUTOPSY silly one...., he determined the CAUSE OF DEATH.

What did he say was the cause of death, idiot.

Oh jiminee cricket!

I highlighted what the medical examiner put in his final report as the cause, several times in this thread...



In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

"after watching the video"? The autopsies with which I have been familiar depended on EXAMINATION OF THE DEAD BODY-----grossly and microscopically -----and some lab tests

...read the article

he performed the autopsy, then he examined the evidence and circumstances.

still not impressed. Neck compression that leads to DEATH reveals actual tissue findings ON AUTOPSY---something----at least some crushed cartilage----asphyxiation leads to all kinds of stuff-----where are the "SLIDES" ? -----the little glass things to place on a microscope?

Why are you disagreeing with three independent autopsy reports declaring cardiopulmonary arrest caused by asphyxiation/homicide as the cause of death? Are you a medical examiner?

 

[irosie91]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

He certainly seems negligent. The video I saw was pretty fucking bad. The cop may well just be a brazen dumb fuck. Intent to murder would have had to come in the moment...because they tried to put Floyd in the back of a cop car and he would not cooperate and he asked to lay on the ground.

I have no doubt he did something in the car to warrant his being tossed on the ground. But in cuffs with 4 cops, he did not need to be held with a knee on neck for over 9 minutes.

The racists are seeking justification for the public execution of a black man. Behavior while in custody, past record, drug use, anything.

When you see the entire video it's evident that Floyd was in a drugged mania state.

So what if he was? How would that give a cop justification for killing him? What kind of other stuff do you think offers approval for random cops to commit murder or manslaughter? Should random cops be allowed to commit other crimes?

Prove it was murder.

Not my job. We all saw him kill the guy. A judge and jury are in the process of determining if he committed murder or manslaughter, but we all saw the cop kill the guy.

No, you all THOUGHT you saw it, based on your "extensive" knowledge from watching TV, one assumes. The autopsy report tells us that Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck.

That's Not True.... the final autopsy report from the medical examiner ruled it a homicide due to the officer's restraining force....

What the medical examiner said killed him...


Dr. Stephen Nelson, chairman of Florida's medical examiners commission, who is not affiliated with the case, reviewed the new files and says that doesn't mean the drugs or health condition is what caused Floyd's death.

"We've all had cases where those kinds of of levels come into play. You've got to look at the whole picture," Nelson said. "It's one thing to die *with* something. It's another thing to die *from* something."

The documents say Baker performed the autopsy before watching the videos of police restraining Floyd, with Officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, because Baker wanted to avoid bias in his autopsy.

In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system

This guy isn't affiliated with the case. His opinion means absolutely nothing. On the other hand, he does admit that the cop wasn't responsible for the death because the victim had heart disease and a lethal dose of fentanyl. You can't convict the cop for murder if the victim had given himself a lethal dose of fentanyl. Case closed.

The medical examiner Baker, DID THE AUTOPSY silly one...., he determined the CAUSE OF DEATH.

What did he say was the cause of death, idiot.

Oh jiminee cricket!

I highlighted what the medical examiner put in his final report as the cause, several times in this thread...



In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

"after watching the video"? The autopsies with which I have been familiar depended on EXAMINATION OF THE DEAD BODY-----grossly and microscopically -----and some lab tests

...read the article

he performed the autopsy, then he examined the evidence and circumstances.

still not impressed. Neck compression that leads to DEATH reveals actual tissue findings ON AUTOPSY---something----at least some crushed cartilage----asphyxiation leads to all kinds of stuff-----where are the "SLIDES" ? -----the little glass things to place on a microscope?

Ask him. Or search for it....

Are you actually claiming the medical examiner did not do a proper autopsy?

Maybe you should volunteer for Chauvin's defense team to be an expert medical examiner....?

I am alluding to the FACT of political pressure-----you would be amazed

 

[irosie91]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

He certainly seems negligent. The video I saw was pretty fucking bad. The cop may well just be a brazen dumb fuck. Intent to murder would have had to come in the moment...because they tried to put Floyd in the back of a cop car and he would not cooperate and he asked to lay on the ground.

I have no doubt he did something in the car to warrant his being tossed on the ground. But in cuffs with 4 cops, he did not need to be held with a knee on neck for over 9 minutes.

The racists are seeking justification for the public execution of a black man. Behavior while in custody, past record, drug use, anything.

When you see the entire video it's evident that Floyd was in a drugged mania state.

So what if he was? How would that give a cop justification for killing him? What kind of other stuff do you think offers approval for random cops to commit murder or manslaughter? Should random cops be allowed to commit other crimes?

Prove it was murder.

Not my job. We all saw him kill the guy. A judge and jury are in the process of determining if he committed murder or manslaughter, but we all saw the cop kill the guy.

No, you all THOUGHT you saw it, based on your "extensive" knowledge from watching TV, one assumes. The autopsy report tells us that Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck.

That's Not True.... the final autopsy report from the medical examiner ruled it a homicide due to the officer's restraining force....

What the medical examiner said killed him...


Dr. Stephen Nelson, chairman of Florida's medical examiners commission, who is not affiliated with the case, reviewed the new files and says that doesn't mean the drugs or health condition is what caused Floyd's death.

"We've all had cases where those kinds of of levels come into play. You've got to look at the whole picture," Nelson said. "It's one thing to die *with* something. It's another thing to die *from* something."

The documents say Baker performed the autopsy before watching the videos of police restraining Floyd, with Officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, because Baker wanted to avoid bias in his autopsy.

In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system

This guy isn't affiliated with the case. His opinion means absolutely nothing. On the other hand, he does admit that the cop wasn't responsible for the death because the victim had heart disease and a lethal dose of fentanyl. You can't convict the cop for murder if the victim had given himself a lethal dose of fentanyl. Case closed.

The medical examiner Baker, DID THE AUTOPSY silly one...., he determined the CAUSE OF DEATH.

What did he say was the cause of death, idiot.

Oh jiminee cricket!

I highlighted what the medical examiner put in his final report as the cause, several times in this thread...



In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

"after watching the video"? The autopsies with which I have been familiar depended on EXAMINATION OF THE DEAD BODY-----grossly and microscopically -----and some lab tests

...read the article

he performed the autopsy, then he examined the evidence and circumstances.

still not impressed. Neck compression that leads to DEATH reveals actual tissue findings ON AUTOPSY---something----at least some crushed cartilage----asphyxiation leads to all kinds of stuff-----where are the "SLIDES" ? -----the little glass things to place on a microscope?

Why are you disagreeing with three independent autopsy reports declaring cardiopulmonary arrest caused by asphyxiation/homicide as the cause of death? Are you a medical examiner?

No----I am an EVIDENCE person aware of the pressures placed on persons "appointed, &/or ELECTED" As to ASPHYXIATION----stuff shows up in the form of
conjunctival petechiae -----somehow not reported----
signs of compression in the cartilages of the trachea---not reported-------SLIDES???

 

[Camp]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

He certainly seems negligent. The video I saw was pretty fucking bad. The cop may well just be a brazen dumb fuck. Intent to murder would have had to come in the moment...because they tried to put Floyd in the back of a cop car and he would not cooperate and he asked to lay on the ground.

I have no doubt he did something in the car to warrant his being tossed on the ground. But in cuffs with 4 cops, he did not need to be held with a knee on neck for over 9 minutes.

The racists are seeking justification for the public execution of a black man. Behavior while in custody, past record, drug use, anything.

When you see the entire video it's evident that Floyd was in a drugged mania state.

So what if he was? How would that give a cop justification for killing him? What kind of other stuff do you think offers approval for random cops to commit murder or manslaughter? Should random cops be allowed to commit other crimes?

Prove it was murder.

Not my job. We all saw him kill the guy. A judge and jury are in the process of determining if he committed murder or manslaughter, but we all saw the cop kill the guy.

No, you all THOUGHT you saw it, based on your "extensive" knowledge from watching TV, one assumes. The autopsy report tells us that Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck.

That's Not True.... the final autopsy report from the medical examiner ruled it a homicide due to the officer's restraining force....

What the medical examiner said killed him...


Dr. Stephen Nelson, chairman of Florida's medical examiners commission, who is not affiliated with the case, reviewed the new files and says that doesn't mean the drugs or health condition is what caused Floyd's death.

"We've all had cases where those kinds of of levels come into play. You've got to look at the whole picture," Nelson said. "It's one thing to die *with* something. It's another thing to die *from* something."

The documents say Baker performed the autopsy before watching the videos of police restraining Floyd, with Officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, because Baker wanted to avoid bias in his autopsy.

In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system

This guy isn't affiliated with the case. His opinion means absolutely nothing. On the other hand, he does admit that the cop wasn't responsible for the death because the victim had heart disease and a lethal dose of fentanyl. You can't convict the cop for murder if the victim had given himself a lethal dose of fentanyl. Case closed.

The medical examiner Baker, DID THE AUTOPSY silly one...., he determined the CAUSE OF DEATH.

What did he say was the cause of death, idiot.

Oh jiminee cricket!

I highlighted what the medical examiner put in his final report as the cause, several times in this thread...



In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

"after watching the video"? The autopsies with which I have been familiar depended on EXAMINATION OF THE DEAD BODY-----grossly and microscopically -----and some lab tests

...read the article

he performed the autopsy, then he examined the evidence and circumstances.

still not impressed. Neck compression that leads to DEATH reveals actual tissue findings ON AUTOPSY---something----at least some crushed cartilage----asphyxiation leads to all kinds of stuff-----where are the "SLIDES" ? -----the little glass things to place on a microscope?

Ask him. Or search for it....

Are you actually claiming the medical examiner did not do a proper autopsy?

Maybe you should volunteer for Chauvin's defense team to be an expert medical examiner....?

I am alluding to the FACT of political pressure-----you would be amazed

Well, it sounds like you are disagreeing with the three independent medical examiners because of an alleged claim of no physical evidence of tissue damage and you are disagreeing with their rulings. So, where did you study and become a medical examiner?

 

[irosie91]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

He certainly seems negligent. The video I saw was pretty fucking bad. The cop may well just be a brazen dumb fuck. Intent to murder would have had to come in the moment...because they tried to put Floyd in the back of a cop car and he would not cooperate and he asked to lay on the ground.

I have no doubt he did something in the car to warrant his being tossed on the ground. But in cuffs with 4 cops, he did not need to be held with a knee on neck for over 9 minutes.

The racists are seeking justification for the public execution of a black man. Behavior while in custody, past record, drug use, anything.

When you see the entire video it's evident that Floyd was in a drugged mania state.

So what if he was? How would that give a cop justification for killing him? What kind of other stuff do you think offers approval for random cops to commit murder or manslaughter? Should random cops be allowed to commit other crimes?

Prove it was murder.

Not my job. We all saw him kill the guy. A judge and jury are in the process of determining if he committed murder or manslaughter, but we all saw the cop kill the guy.

No, you all THOUGHT you saw it, based on your "extensive" knowledge from watching TV, one assumes. The autopsy report tells us that Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck.

That's Not True.... the final autopsy report from the medical examiner ruled it a homicide due to the officer's restraining force....

What the medical examiner said killed him...


Dr. Stephen Nelson, chairman of Florida's medical examiners commission, who is not affiliated with the case, reviewed the new files and says that doesn't mean the drugs or health condition is what caused Floyd's death.

"We've all had cases where those kinds of of levels come into play. You've got to look at the whole picture," Nelson said. "It's one thing to die *with* something. It's another thing to die *from* something."

The documents say Baker performed the autopsy before watching the videos of police restraining Floyd, with Officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, because Baker wanted to avoid bias in his autopsy.

In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system

This guy isn't affiliated with the case. His opinion means absolutely nothing. On the other hand, he does admit that the cop wasn't responsible for the death because the victim had heart disease and a lethal dose of fentanyl. You can't convict the cop for murder if the victim had given himself a lethal dose of fentanyl. Case closed.

The medical examiner Baker, DID THE AUTOPSY silly one...., he determined the CAUSE OF DEATH.

What did he say was the cause of death, idiot.

Oh jiminee cricket!

I highlighted what the medical examiner put in his final report as the cause, several times in this thread...



In the Medical Examiner Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

"after watching the video"? The autopsies with which I have been familiar depended on EXAMINATION OF THE DEAD BODY-----grossly and microscopically -----and some lab tests

...read the article

he performed the autopsy, then he examined the evidence and circumstances.

still not impressed. Neck compression that leads to DEATH reveals actual tissue findings ON AUTOPSY---something----at least some crushed cartilage----asphyxiation leads to all kinds of stuff-----where are the "SLIDES" ? -----the little glass things to place on a microscope?

Ask him. Or search for it....

Are you actually claiming the medical examiner did not do a proper autopsy?

Maybe you should volunteer for Chauvin's defense team to be an expert medical examiner....?

I am alluding to the FACT of political pressure-----you would be amazed

Well, it sounds like you are disagreeing with the three independent medical examiners because of an alleged claim of no physical evidence of tissue damage and you are disagreeing with their rulings. So, where did you study and become a medical examiner?

Pathology---hospital morgue

 

[Snouter]

Apparently some folks are victims of public school "education" and are not aware that vocal cords produce sound by vibrating when exhaled air from the lungs passes through them. In other words, it is physically impossible to say, "I can't breathe" if you cannot breathe. Besides, George Floyd complained he could not breathe when he was fighting with the cops in the backseat of the police SUV, so it is similar to him saying, "I'm claustrophobic" when he just left an SUV smaller than the cop SUV where he fought with the cops. Also, he did not stop resisting until he passed out from the Fent/Meth overdose and if the angry crowd was not there, the paramedics might have felt comfortable to administer Fent reversing Narcan. So really, besides Floyd himself being to blame for his criminal behavior, drug overdose, resisting arrest etc., the crowd of social justice warriors actually prevented immediate medical aid and are also to blame to some extent which is maybe why they behaved like emotional retards on the witness stand.

 

[themirrorthief]

That poor man was held for 9 minutes unable to move. Sure he had his issues. So did I when I was younger. It doesn't mean I should have had my claustrophobia tested. Based on what saw? That cop was one of the bad cops.

floyd fucked up...the cops fucked up...it was a total fuckup from the get go