The U.S. Needs To Act Against Russian Threat To Ukraine!

Depends of your definition of the word 'enslaved'. The Russians act with other nations as good, as they act with themselves (if not better).

Depends of your definition of the word 'enslaved'.

Depends on how drunk (or stupid) you are when you're denying it.

The Russians act with other nations as good, as they act with themselves (if not better).


They treated the enslaved Russians worse than the enslaved non-Russians?

That's certainly possible. Commies suck.
 
NATO was created in April 1949, WP - in May, 1955.


Yes. As well as the Soviet forces leaved Austria, Finland and Yugoslavia after their promise to be neutral.


The West enslaved much more - significant parts of Asia, Africa and America.

NATO was created in April 1949, WP - in May, 1955.

Eastern Europe was enslaved starting in 1945.
 
That's the problem with you. You don't get nothing in our history. You're taught that the USA won the war while Russians were "lazing on a Sunday afternoon" all the time. False flag or true, the USSR needed that strip of land to guard itself from the coming inevitable war with Germany and Finland was as good as a jumping-off-ground for Germans at the time. Besides, everything coming from you is emotional nonsense. Is there a point in having an argument? If Tucker Carlson, one of the few remaining sensible men in America can't din into your heads that guarding your southern boarders is more important than wasting money on Ukraine, whose location on the map is dimly known to most, the only thing left for me is being emotional.

False flag or true, the USSR needed that strip of land to guard itself from the coming inevitable war with Germany

Why would Russia go to war with their German allies?
 
They had gone into Mongolia.
The other moron from your congress said on CNN "we must sanction Russia (among other things) for the false flag operation" when there hadn't been such so far. Now we enslaved Mongolia it turns out. What a rich history of heinous crimes we have. I wouldn't have a Russian for a friend either if I were American.
 
False flag or true, the USSR needed that strip of land to guard itself from the coming inevitable war with Germany

Why would Russia go to war with their German allies?
Germany would, after you gave Hitler a green light with the Munich Agreement. We kind of were forced to sign our own pact to delay the war you were urging Germany on, hoping to pull the chestnuts out of the fire when the two exhaust themselves in that war. Was the a time when you did any different?
 
That's the problem with you. You don't get nothing in our history. You're taught that the USA won the war while Russians were "lazing on a Sunday afternoon" all the time. False flag or true, the USSR needed that strip of land to guard itself from the coming inevitable war with Germany and Finland was as good as a jumping-off-ground for Germans at the time. Besides, everything coming from you is emotional nonsense. Is there a point in having an argument? If Tucker Carlson, one of the few remaining sensible men in America can't din into your heads that guarding your southern boarders is more important than wasting money on Ukraine, whose location on the map is dimly known to most, the only thing left for me is being emotional.

Most of the people here haven't been inside the iron curtain. I have. The worst western country was many times better than any iron curtain country. And the Sattelite Countries were better than Russia itself. You are coming from a 3rd world country with nukes who has a very long history of bullying other countries. The US and EU cannot afford to allow your country to continue bullying other countries.
 
It has been reported in the Washington Post (on Dec. 3 of this year) that American intelligence is assessing the ultimate size of the Russian military force amassing on the Ukrainian border at one-hundred and seventy-five thousand troops the number is already over 100K, many people think this is an omen that the country of Russia will invade Ukraine and annex it. The world has already seen how Russian President Putin stole Ukrainian territory in Russia's military conquest of Crimea in the last ten years; the media has well reported that Vladimir Putin doesn't think of Ukraine as a sovereign country but rather as part of Mother Russia. Wisdom calls for acting like Russia's invasion of Ukraine is imminent. Now America has this segment of Americans that says we shouldn't funnel huge amounts of military equipment to the country of Ukraine to defend itself against Russian aggression because doing so will provoke Russian Vladimir Putin to attack Ukraine because he will argue that America massively arming the Ukrainian army poses a security threat to Russia because Ukraine is on Russia's border so Russia has to invade and conquer Ukraine to eliminate this military threat. The proper thinking on this issue is we're past the stage of worrying about provoking Putin his amassing 175K troops on Ukrainian border should be interpreted that he is intending to invade and conquer Ukraine.

I am not a military expert and have no background in the military but I believe that America should be outstandingly generous in giving military equipment to Ukraine in order to help that country defend itself, be outstandingly accommodating to the Ukraine military leadership's request for assistance in this area. My reasoning is that the Ukrainian people are a good people over the last ten years with this ongoing Russian conflict America has had many contacts with the Ukrainian people and learned they are a good people that deserve their sovereign rights that being the right to their own country. Further, with the world struggling to come out of the Covid 19 pandemic with European countries trying to rebuild their economies which took a terrible hit from this disease the last thing in the world Europe needs is Russia conducting military expansionism and taking over the huge European country of Ukraine. Plus, the world doesn't need to go backwards to Cold War times with a Russian Empire in Eastern Europe America needs to make an outstanding effort to not go back to this security nightmare!

In regards to the issue of whether or not U.S. military personnel should be utilized to defend the country of Ukraine from a military attack from Russia. Ordinarily, I would say no the country of Ukraine is the Ukrainian citizens country it is not the American citizens country American men and women should not give their life defending Ukraine sovereignty it is the Ukrainian citizens duty to make this sacrifice. If America had a Treaty or Treaty like obligation to Ukraine that would be a different story, obviously Ukraine isn't in the Nato alliance so there is no Nato Treaty obligation; there is a matter of an agreement between America in conjunction with a whole bunch of other countries and the country of Ukraine to get Ukraine to disarm all nuclear weapons after the Cold War ended, I don't know the details of that agreement so I have no comment on that issue. But I do think that at the present time the times are extraordinary which does warrant America getting involved in a military conflict related to Russia invading Ukraine albeit in a limited manner. The reasoning goes like this if Russia invades and conquers Ukraine that is going to create a gigantic tidal wave of refugees flooding into Europe, the refugee numbers will range in the hundreds of thousands if not millions not only will this cause grave economic hardship on European countries but this will cause division between these countries (because some countries will not take these refugees or as many that need to be taken) likely so severe that it could threaten the NATO military alliance this cannot be allowed to happen America needs NATO to exist and be a strong and reliable alliance, no other option can be tolerated, so America must act on this Russia invasion matter to protect and preserve the NATO alliance. Specifically what is meant here is not deploying U.S. ground troops on Ukrainian soil what is meant here is if the Russian military invades Ukraine, U.S. air power will be used to slow, weaken and hopefully stop the invasion. U.S. air planes should be used to bomb the advancing Russian tank and troop columns; the Ukrainian military is at least a respectable modern military (they've comported themselves well in the fighting on the Eastern Ukraine border against the Russian proxies over the last eight years) with U.S. air power assistance they should be able to at least stop any Russian military invasion if not repel it out of the country of Ukraine!

FJB

FU2

We're not going to war because Ukraine stopped paying the Bidens

FU^2
 
Most of the people here haven't been inside the iron curtain. I have. The worst western country was many times better than any iron curtain country. And the Sattelite Countries were better than Russia itself. You are coming from a 3rd world country with nukes who has a very long history of bullying other countries. The US and EU cannot afford to allow your country to continue bullying other countries.
You don't say! You have scars all over your body to prove that? Poor creature, how could they?
 
NATO was created in April 1949, WP - in May, 1955.

Eastern Europe was enslaved starting in 1945.
Eastern and Central and Western Europe was _liberated_ from Nazies in 1945 by the Soviets and Americans. Both sides kept those lands (actively cooperated with the Nazies) under their control first of all to prevent resurrection of Nazism. The USA created NATO, the Soviet Union created WP.
 
Hitler and his good pal Stalin signed their non-aggression pact after Munich.
That's when emotions start to kick in. What did I just say? We had to sign the pact after YOU signed the agreement thus letting Hitler loose. We had to stay off war at whatever the cost at that time.
 
Depends of your definition of the word 'enslaved'.

Depends on how drunk (or stupid) you are when you're denying it.

The Russians act with other nations as good, as they act with themselves (if not better).

They treated the enslaved Russians worse than the enslaved non-Russians?

That's certainly possible. Commies suck.
It's not only about commies. If you think, that in the times of Tsars, Great Princes, Konungs, Kagans or even in 'democratic' times of 'Wild Capitalism' or 'Putin's Stability' it was better - think one more time. Russia is a harsh mistress, it's the land of a pretty hostile environment and it demands pretty 'specific' human relationships to survive.
 
From the Russian point of view, it was self-defence.

And you believed that? LOL!

Cut back on the vodka. It's making you dumber.
Finns were clever enough to provoke the Russians to attack them when Finland was ready and Soviets were not ready. If they waited few months more they would lost the whole country, not just few regions.
 
Finns were clever enough to provoke the Russians to attack them when Finland was ready and Soviets were not ready. If they waited few months more they would lost the whole country, not just few regions.

Yeah, sneaky Finns provoking the largest nation in the world.
Poor Russia had no choice, they had to attack.
 
And then the Soviets enslaved Eastern Europe.
You see, they got under their control countries, that tried to really enslave them (being parts of the Third Reich or it's allies). Americans did the same thing. And they left countries which promised to be neutral - Iran, Yugoslavia, Austria, Finland.
 

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