The U.S. cost of supporting Israel

[P F Tinmore]

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[georgephillip]

Israel is nothing but a monetary drain on the American taxpayer.

We basically get zero for our dollar.

And our support for the rogue apartheid state of Israel.

Does nothing to enhance our prestige and image in the the world.

Well we see what happens when we support muslim nations. they take our money, then blow our people up...shrugs.

We take their oil and kill their children.
For profit$

 

[editec]

The official, on-the-table U.S. aid to Israel --rarely, if at all, addressed in the mainstream media-- is $3,000,000,000 (40% economical and 60% Military) since 1984 and $2,500,000,000 since 1973. Add to that $1,271,000,000/yr for special gifts and programs subsidized by the U.S., such as the Arrow missile and the Lavi fighter, plus the loan guarantees of $10,000,000,000 over 5 years, plus the interest ($500,000,000/yr) the U.S. must pay on money borrowed to pay for the grants to Israel. The total for the five years (1993-1997) was around $6,300,000,000/year ($6.3 BILLION) or over $17 Million/DAY. This is more than what the U.S. spends on domestic drug enforcement.

Prospectively, the total U.S. foreign aid to the whole world (6 Billion people) is about $18 BILLION, so, the one thousandth (1/1000) of the world population living in Israel --with life expectancy higher than that of the U.S.-- gets one third of US aid. Also, in 1990 Israel GNP is $24 Billion, i.e. a quarter of Israel's income comes from the U.S. The Aid to Israel is in the form of loans, which are typically forgiven by the AIPAC-dominated congress.

The above figures do not include:

* the tax-deductible donations, mostly by American Jews and Christian Zionists, to Israel totaling over $1,000,000,000/year.
* the lumps of money Israel usually demands from the U.S. upon each withdrawal from the occupied territories during the current Peace Process, (for example, Netanyahu is planning to ask the U.S. for about $1,200,000,000 for the 13% withdrawal of mid-1998, to cover costs).
* Israel Bonds sold in the U.S. for $500,000,000/year
* the $1,000,000,000/year U.S. commercial banks lend to Israel
* the $2,100,000,000/year the U.S. rewards Egypt for signing peace with Israel
* The fact that unlike other countries, Israel gets its US aid in one chunk at the beginning of the distribution year, instead of quarterly installments. This allows Israel to further make interest on that money over other aid-receiving countries.

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The U.S. cost of supporting Israel - Radio Islam

Consider the possibility that the Wesdtern powers support Israel, not out of any misplaced alliagance to the Jews, but so that Western power has a plausible "moral high ground" to mess with the Arabs.

It was obvious, even in 1918 that OIL was becoming a strategic resource, and England didn't have any.

Who did? The Mideast, and central Asia.

Note how the Treaty of Paris and Mandate gave Europe control over the lands where so much oil is?

And how nice if Western European powers had a truly committed ally in the region, true?

And how much more committed can a people be than one which is surrounded by people who want to kill them all?

Israel is, as it was planned to be, an outpost of WESTERN POWER in Asia.

The support that Western Civiliization gives Israel, that support that some of you mistaken think is some kind of altruism for the European Jews who settled there, makes one hell of a lot more sense when viewed in the cold calculating light of geopolitics.

It was not a guilt driven gift we gave to a people that we (meaning we Christians of EURO culture) gave our former victims. After all, the Jews were promised Palestine even before the end of WWI by Lord Balfour, was it not? England (during WWWI) needed the Rothchild's help funding the war. Rothchild supported Zionism. A deal was struck. Their mutally shared interest continues to advance Western Civilization's hold over Asian oil.

The Anglo-American alliance with world Jewery (now manifesting as the State of Israel) makes perfect sense if you stop imagining that nations are motivated by moral considerations, and accept the fact that nations were, are and always will be, motivated by pragmatism.

Almost all foreign aid that is given is given with a sub rosa motive.

Every cent that we or the West gives comes with sting attached, or with motives that serve our masters interests.

Once WWI began it devolved into stalemate after two years.
In 1916 it looked like the bankers who had backed both sides would not have a loser to crucify.

Some claim that the USA went into that war because banking community was fearful that they'd lose all the dough they'd make lending to England.

I'm inclined to think that was a big part of the decision, too, as the U
SA was making money hand over fist selling arms to the Allied powers

According to some accounts, the US joined the fight in exchange for eventual post war control of oil.

Yeah, well I'd call it the American Anglo alliance, because it was England that actually ended up controlling most of the oil.
It took 30 more years, but in 1948 almost everybody got what they needed/wanted.

Except for the two out of three residents of Mandate Palestine who were not Jewish

Not even close to 33%, in 1917.

Maybe 2 or 3% of Palestine's residents were Jews at the close of WWI.

As to ALL the mandated nations?

I doubt that the Jews were even a fraction of 1% of the total population of those nations.

 

[georgephillip]

These figures are from MidEast Web whose major conclusion is "(T)he nature of the data do not permit precise conclusions about the Arab population in Ottoman and British times."

"Of the 1,358,000 Palestinian Arab citizens of Palestine in 1948, approximately 873;600 resided within what would become the Israeli borders, 485,000 without. The Israelis recorded 156,000 non-Jews in 1948, a number that included perhaps 1,000 non-Arabs, leaving 155,000 Palestinians in Israel. This means that 718,000 Palestinians either were refugees or died during the war. Note that this number depends on the somewhat imprecise estimation of the numbers who lived on both sides of the border before the war, and so should be taken as a mean estimate. However, statistically it cannot be wrong by more than 5 to 10 percent (for other analyses, see Khalidi, 1992; Bachi, 1977)."

The US and her junior partner have privatized $billions of profits from Palestine since 1948 while socializing the cost in Semitic blood and US tax dollars.

The current plan seems to involve redrawing borders to create an "Arc of Crisis" across the Middle East in order to facilitate NATO and EU expansion into the Eurasian continent.

The Great Game continues with the EU, NATO and the US competing against the Russians, Chinese and Iranians.

 

[docmauser1]

The US and her junior partner have privatized $billions of profits from Palestine since 1948 while socializing the cost in Semitic blood and US tax dollars. The current plan seems to involve redrawing borders to create an across the Middle East in order to facilitate NATO and EU expansion into the Eurasian continent. The Great Game continues with the EU, NATO and the US competing against the Russians, Chinese and Iranians.

All in full compliance with the orders of the intergalactic jovish conspiracy C&C center in area 51.

 

[Ropey]

The US and her junior partner have privatized $billions of profits from Palestine since 1948 while socializing the cost in Semitic blood and US tax dollars. The current plan seems to involve redrawing borders to create an across the Middle East in order to facilitate NATO and EU expansion into the Eurasian continent. The Great Game continues with the EU, NATO and the US competing against the Russians, Chinese and Iranians.

All in full compliance with the orders of the intergalactic jovish conspiracy C&C center in area 51.

 

[georgephillip]

"British historian, Arnold J. Toynbee: 'The treatment of the Palestinian Arabs in 1947 (and 1948) was as morally indefensible as the slaughter of six million Jews by the Nazis. Though nor comparable in quantity to the crimes of the Nazis, it was comparable in quality.'”

CounterPunch

How much innocent Arab blood stains your hands, Ropey?

How much were you paid for your crimes?

Read your book, Slave.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

There is no reason for Palestinians to still be living in refugee camps after all these years. About 700,000 Sephardic (Middle Eastern) Jews were fully absorbed into Israeli society. My parents, once refugees from WW2, were absorbed into American society a half-century ago. It's way past time for the Palestinian refugees to "get over it". Didn't Tom Petty sing, "Everybody's had to fight to be free. You don't have to live like a Refugee."?

 

[georgephillip]

Tom would feel differently if he had been born in Gaza.

For the last sixty years Israel has made it clear it wants all the land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River.

Palestinians are "free" to leave or live like dogs.

A choice Sephardic Jews in Israel or your parents in the US were never confronted with.

 

[docmauser1]

"British historian, Arnold J. Toynbee: 'The treatment of the Palestinian Arabs in 1947 (and 1948) was as morally indefensible as the slaughter of six million Jews by the Nazis. Though nor comparable in quantity to the crimes of the Nazis, it was comparable in quality.'”

Ah, the cunterpunch house historian, of course. So, when is Britain returning Islas Malvinas to Argentina?

How much innocent Arab blood stains your hands, Ropey? How much were you paid for your crimes? Read your book, Slave.

Noone dropped two nukes on civilians to-date, except ... ?

 

[editec]

There is no reason for Palestinians to still be living in refugee camps after all these years. About 700,000 Sephardic (Middle Eastern) Jews were fully absorbed into Israeli society. My parents, once refugees from WW2, were absorbed into American society a half-century ago. It's way past time for the Palestinian refugees to "get over it". Didn't Tom Petty sing, "Everybody's had to fight to be free. You don't have to live like a Refugee."?

So you're suggesting that the USA ought to take in those Pali refugees so they can "get over it"?

Yeah, good idea.

I propose they all get settled in NYC and Long Island.

You down with that, FY?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

There is no reason for Palestinians to still be living in refugee camps after all these years. About 700,000 Sephardic (Middle Eastern) Jews were fully absorbed into Israeli society. My parents, once refugees from WW2, were absorbed into American society a half-century ago. It's way past time for the Palestinian refugees to "get over it". Didn't Tom Petty sing, "Everybody's had to fight to be free. You don't have to live like a Refugee."?

So you're suggesting that the USA ought to take in those Pali refugees so they can "get over it"?

Yeah, good idea.

I propose they all get settled in NYC and Long Island.

You down with that, FY?

How 'bout their fellow, oil-rich Arab countries? They have the same language and culture.

 

[docmauser1]

So you're suggesting that the USA ought to take in those Pali refugees so they can "get over it"?

Of course! Like our resident johnpifhlip, bloviating about "capitalisation" and "socialisation".

Yeah, good idea.

Indeed, my man/woman!

I propose they all get settled in NYC and Long Island.

Agreed upon with all of my remains for a heart!

 

[Sunni Man]

I am down for that.

Bring all of the Pals to NY

And ship all of the NY jews to Israel.

 

[editec]

I am down for that.

Bring all of the Pals to NY

And ship all of the NY jews to Israel.

Oh my God, Sunni.

What a disaster that would be for the poor Israelis.

Haven't they suffered enough?

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no reason for Palestinians to still be living in refugee camps after all these years. About 700,000 Sephardic (Middle Eastern) Jews were fully absorbed into Israeli society. My parents, once refugees from WW2, were absorbed into American society a half-century ago. It's way past time for the Palestinian refugees to "get over it". Didn't Tom Petty sing, "Everybody's had to fight to be free. You don't have to live like a Refugee."?

So you're suggesting that the USA ought to take in those Pali refugees so they can "get over it"?

Yeah, good idea.

I propose they all get settled in NYC and Long Island.

You down with that, FY?

How 'bout their fellow, oil-rich Arab countries? They have the same language and culture.

Palestine has a culture that is quite different from many other countries in the region. Palestinians have freedoms that are not available in other countries.

 

[docmauser1]

Palestine has a culture that is quite different from many other countries in the region. Palestinians have freedoms that are not available in other countries.

Indeed, a culture of getting kicked out of Iraq, Kuwait, the Saudi Arabia and getting butts stomped.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine has a culture that is quite different from many other countries in the region. Palestinians have freedoms that are not available in other countries.

Indeed, a culture of getting kicked out of Iraq, Kuwait, the Saudi Arabia and getting butts stomped.

Relevance?

 

[docmauser1]

Palestine has a culture that is quite different from many other countries in the region. Palestinians have freedoms that are not available in other countries.

Indeed, a culture of getting kicked out of Iraq, Kuwait, the Saudi Arabia and getting butts stomped.

Relevance?

Culture, of course, my dear thick flock!

 

[georgephillip]

Culture of Appeasement?

"In any other country, the current American bribe to Israel, and the latter’s reluctance to accept it, in return for even a temporary end to the theft of somebody else’s property would be regarded as preposterous.

"Three billion dollars’ worth of fighter bombers in return for a temporary freeze in West Bank colonisation for a mere 90 days?

"Not including East Jerusalem – so goodbye to the last chance of the east of the holy city for a Palestinian capital – and, if Benjamin Netanyahu so wishes, a rip-roaring continuation of settlement on Arab land.

"In the ordinary sane world in which we think we live, there is only one word for Barack Obama’s offer: appeasement."

Robert Fisk...