The Two Big Myths about the Middle East

[Doc7505]

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East​

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led. Myth 1. The State of Palestine This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions: a. It never appea...

www.americanthinker.com

23 Oct 2023 ~~ By Milli Sands

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led.

Myth 1. The State of Palestine
This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions:

a. It never appeared. ​

b. It refuses to go away. ​

Neither a country nor a state of Palestine has ever existed.
~Snip~
In 66 AD, the Jewish people revolted against Roman rule. The revolt lasted for seven years and ended with the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
The name Judea was changed to Syria Palaestina by the Roman emperor Hadrian in 135 AD, following the Bar Kokhba revolt. The revolt was a Jewish uprising against Roman rule, and Hadrian crushed it. It resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews. In an effort to suppress Jewish identity, Hadrian renamed the province. The name “Palaestina” was derived from the Philistines, a people who had lived in the region centuries earlier. The addition of the name “Syria” was intended to emphasize the province’s status as a Roman province.
Renaming was an attempt to render extinct the Jewish nature and history of the land and to humiliate the restive Jews. It was a reminder of the Roman Empire’s power. The name Syria Palaestina remained in use until the 7th century, when the region was conquered by the Arabs.
The Arabs ruled until the Crusaders took land back, then lost it to Arabs, who lost it to the Ottomans (a Turkic people) in 1517.
As a consequence of their loss in WWI, the Turks gave control of the region known as Palestine to the British n 1917.
Between 1917 and 1920, Palestine was under the control of the British military after their conquest of the region.

In December 1917, British forces under General Edmund Allenby captured Jerusalem, ending Ottoman rule. ​

From 1917-1920, Palestine was occupied by the British and governed by the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA), part of the British military. ​

In 1920, Britain was officially granted control of Palestine by the San Remo Conference. The British Mandate for Palestine then governed the region from 1920 until 1948. ​

~Snip~
The San Remo Conference resolutions required Britain to facilitate the creation of a Jewish national home in Mandatory Palestine per the policies of the Balfour Declaration.
Before moving on:

• There never was a Palestinian state or country.
• There never was rule by anything called a Palestinian.
• The land of Mandatory Palestine was to be the Jewish national homeland in an area occupied continuously by Jews for millennia.
• Jewish rule and occupancy antedated the advent of the newcomer religion Islam by millennia.
• Mandatory Palestine, set aside for the National Homeland of the Jews, had its territory diminished by around seven eighths, in contravention of their mandatory obligations by the British to create Transjordan (now commonly known as Jordan).

Myth 2. Palestinians
No state, no nation, no people. Palestine never existed, hence Palestinians never existed, do not exist. Full stop.
Don’t believe me? Take it from the mouth of a bona fide Palestinian terrorist.
Zuheir Mohsen, leader of the Palestinian terror group As Saiqa, explained in a 1970 interview with James Dorsey for the Dutch newspaper Trouw why the “Palestinian people” had been invented:

The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. ​

There are many more myths — e.g., “land for peace,” “the West Bank,” “it is a territorial conflict,” etc.
But we can stop here and get on to the ultimate point of this essay.
Those of us who follow AT, and especially those who contribute, should display a certain integrity of thought in our approaches. Anyone who has followed this site for a week or two knows that we lament the overtaking of language by the left and its use as a weapon. Time after time, we complain about how the loss of truth in language packaging has served to propagandize the public.
~Snip~
Our language should reflect the precision we assert is missing. We should not use the term “Palestine” to describe Gaza, Judea and Samaria, Israel, or any other territory. We should not refer to the so-called Palestinians as a real people. We should not refer to Judea and Samaria as the “West Bank” (a term basically invented after 1967).
Myths have consequences. In the context of the myths presented here, the consequences are the slaughter of Jews, the rise of antisemitism in such frenzy that there are calls for the extermination of the Jews, and the peril of a broad-ranging international war.
We lead by taking action. We should act as we say. Otherwise, we are hypocrites.


Commentary:
Milli Sands has written an accurate thesis regarding Israel/Judea/Palaestina as we know the area today.
There is no such thing as Palestine or Palestinians. Palestine was the name given to Israel by the Roman Empire by Emperor Hadrian after they invaded and conquered it. Israelis never used or accepted the name and the people using it today are Islamic invaders and squatters.
Has anyone ever wondered why the Arab nations have never recognized "Palestinians", or allowed them citizenship? The answer is, they are the trailer trash of the Arab neighborhood.
“There was no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. "They did not exist.” -- Golda Meir
In truth "Palestinians" are in fact Jordanians and they are shunned entrance or citizenship by Jordan. Even Egypt refuses them entrance.

 

[jwoodie]

Palestine was the name given to Israel by the Roman Empire by Emperor Hadrian after they invaded and conquered it. Israelis never used or accepted the name and the people using it today are Islamic invaders and squatters.

Couldn't the same be said about the Israelis?

 

[surada]

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East​

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led. Myth 1. The State of Palestine This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions: a. It never appea...

www.americanthinker.com

23 Oct 2023 ~~ By Milli Sands

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led.

Myth 1. The State of Palestine
This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions:

a. It never appeared. ​

b. It refuses to go away. ​

Neither a country nor a state of Palestine has ever existed.
~Snip~
In 66 AD, the Jewish people revolted against Roman rule. The revolt lasted for seven years and ended with the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
The name Judea was changed to Syria Palaestina by the Roman emperor Hadrian in 135 AD, following the Bar Kokhba revolt. The revolt was a Jewish uprising against Roman rule, and Hadrian crushed it. It resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews. In an effort to suppress Jewish identity, Hadrian renamed the province. The name “Palaestina” was derived from the Philistines, a people who had lived in the region centuries earlier. The addition of the name “Syria” was intended to emphasize the province’s status as a Roman province.
Renaming was an attempt to render extinct the Jewish nature and history of the land and to humiliate the restive Jews. It was a reminder of the Roman Empire’s power. The name Syria Palaestina remained in use until the 7th century, when the region was conquered by the Arabs.
The Arabs ruled until the Crusaders took land back, then lost it to Arabs, who lost it to the Ottomans (a Turkic people) in 1517.
As a consequence of their loss in WWI, the Turks gave control of the region known as Palestine to the British n 1917.
Between 1917 and 1920, Palestine was under the control of the British military after their conquest of the region.

In December 1917, British forces under General Edmund Allenby captured Jerusalem, ending Ottoman rule. ​

From 1917-1920, Palestine was occupied by the British and governed by the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA), part of the British military. ​

In 1920, Britain was officially granted control of Palestine by the San Remo Conference. The British Mandate for Palestine then governed the region from 1920 until 1948. ​

~Snip~
The San Remo Conference resolutions required Britain to facilitate the creation of a Jewish national home in Mandatory Palestine per the policies of the Balfour Declaration.
Before moving on:

• There never was a Palestinian state or country.
• There never was rule by anything called a Palestinian.
• The land of Mandatory Palestine was to be the Jewish national homeland in an area occupied continuously by Jews for millennia.
• Jewish rule and occupancy antedated the advent of the newcomer religion Islam by millennia.
• Mandatory Palestine, set aside for the National Homeland of the Jews, had its territory diminished by around seven eighths, in contravention of their mandatory obligations by the British to create Transjordan (now commonly known as Jordan).

Myth 2. Palestinians
No state, no nation, no people. Palestine never existed, hence Palestinians never existed, do not exist. Full stop.
Don’t believe me? Take it from the mouth of a bona fide Palestinian terrorist.
Zuheir Mohsen, leader of the Palestinian terror group As Saiqa, explained in a 1970 interview with James Dorsey for the Dutch newspaper Trouw why the “Palestinian people” had been invented:

The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. ​

There are many more myths — e.g., “land for peace,” “the West Bank,” “it is a territorial conflict,” etc.
But we can stop here and get on to the ultimate point of this essay.
Those of us who follow AT, and especially those who contribute, should display a certain integrity of thought in our approaches. Anyone who has followed this site for a week or two knows that we lament the overtaking of language by the left and its use as a weapon. Time after time, we complain about how the loss of truth in language packaging has served to propagandize the public.
~Snip~
Our language should reflect the precision we assert is missing. We should not use the term “Palestine” to describe Gaza, Judea and Samaria, Israel, or any other territory. We should not refer to the so-called Palestinians as a real people. We should not refer to Judea and Samaria as the “West Bank” (a term basically invented after 1967).
Myths have consequences. In the context of the myths presented here, the consequences are the slaughter of Jews, the rise of antisemitism in such frenzy that there are calls for the extermination of the Jews, and the peril of a broad-ranging international war.
We lead by taking action. We should act as we say. Otherwise, we are hypocrites.


Commentary:
Milli Sands has written an accurate thesis regarding Israel/Judea/Palaestina as we know the area today.
There is no such thing as Palestine or Palestinians. Palestine was the name given to Israel by the Roman Empire by Emperor Hadrian after they invaded and conquered it. Israelis never used or accepted the name and the people using it today are Islamic invaders and squatters.
Has anyone ever wondered why the Arab nations have never recognized "Palestinians", or allowed them citizenship? The answer is, they are the trailer trash of the Arab neighborhood.
“There was no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. "They did not exist.” -- Golda Meir
In truth "Palestinians" are in fact Jordanians and they are shunned entrance or citizenship by Jordan. Even Egypt refuses them entrance.

The Greeks called it Syria Palestine in 500 BC. Palestine was always a province of Syria.

 

[Doc7505]

Couldn't the same be said of Israel?

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No! Israel/Judea has been in existence before Christendom and existed before the eras of Rome, the Grecian/Macedonian and Persian influences in the Middle East.
Judean history goes back 6000 years...

 

[Doc7505]

The Greeks called it Syria Palestine in 500 BC. Palestine was always a province of Syria.

~~~~~~
You're blowing smoke again...

Syria Palaestina - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Judaea was a Roman province which incorporated the regions of Judea, Samaria, and Idumea, and extended over parts of the former regions of the Hasmonean and Herodian kingdoms of Judea. It was named after Herod Archelaus's Tetrarchy of Judaea, but the Roman province encompassed a much larger territory. The name "Judaea" was derived from the Kingdom of Judah of the 6th century BC".
"During the 1st and 2nd centuries, Judaea became the epicenter of a series of unsuccessful large-scale Jewish rebellions against Rome, known as the Jewish-Roman Wars. The Roman suppression of these revolts led to wide-scale destruction, a very high toll of life and enslavement. The First Jewish-Roman War (66-73) resulted in the destruction of Jerusalem and the Second Temple.[8] Two generations later, the Bar Kokhba Revolt (132-136) erupted. Judea's countryside was devastated, and many were killed, displaced or sold into slavery.[9][10][11][12] Jewish presence in the region significantly dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt.[13] Following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt, Jerusalem was rebuilt as a Roman colony under the name of Aelia Capitolina, and the province of Judea was renamed Syria Palaestina.[14][15]"

 

[Doc7505]

The Greeks called it Syria Palestine in 500 BC. Palestine was always a province of Syria.

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Why is it that you Democrat Socialists always try to rewrite history?
The facts are against you yet you continue. Is it your low IQ, or do you purposely lie?

 

[jwoodie]

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No! Israel/Judea has been in existence before Christendom and existed before the eras of Rome, the Grecian/Macedonian and Persian influences in the Middle East.
Judean history goes back 6000 years...

Who was there before them? What happened to the people of Jericho?

 

[DGS49]

The name "Palestine" (or a Latin version of it) was created by the Romans, as an insult to the Jews, calling to mind their ancient foes, the Philistines.

There is no Palestinian ethnicity, religion, or culture. They are Middle Eastern Arabs, period.

As a comparison, imagine that people in Appalachia demanded statehood, and claimed to be descended from an ethnic group called the Appalachians. It is absurd. Same thing.

 

[surada]

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You're blowing smoke again...

Syria Palaestina - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Judaea was a Roman province which incorporated the regions of Judea, Samaria, and Idumea, and extended over parts of the former regions of the Hasmonean and Herodian kingdoms of Judea. It was named after Herod Archelaus's Tetrarchy of Judaea, but the Roman province encompassed a much larger territory. The name "Judaea" was derived from the Kingdom of Judah of the 6th century BC".
"During the 1st and 2nd centuries, Judaea became the epicenter of a series of unsuccessful large-scale Jewish rebellions against Rome, known as the Jewish-Roman Wars. The Roman suppression of these revolts led to wide-scale destruction, a very high toll of life and enslavement. The First Jewish-Roman War (66-73) resulted in the destruction of Jerusalem and the Second Temple.[8] Two generations later, the Bar Kokhba Revolt (132-136) erupted. Judea's countryside was devastated, and many were killed, displaced or sold into slavery.[9][10][11][12] Jewish presence in the region significantly dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt.[13] Following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt, Jerusalem was rebuilt as a Roman colony under the name of Aelia Capitolina, and the province of Judea was renamed Syria Palaestina.[14][15]"

Herodotus called it Syria Palestine in
500 BC.

 

[Augustine_]

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East​

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led. Myth 1. The State of Palestine This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions: a. It never appea...

www.americanthinker.com

23 Oct 2023 ~~ By Milli Sands

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led.

Myth 1. The State of Palestine
This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions:

a. It never appeared. ​

b. It refuses to go away. ​

Neither a country nor a state of Palestine has ever existed.
~Snip~
In 66 AD, the Jewish people revolted against Roman rule. The revolt lasted for seven years and ended with the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
The name Judea was changed to Syria Palaestina by the Roman emperor Hadrian in 135 AD, following the Bar Kokhba revolt. The revolt was a Jewish uprising against Roman rule, and Hadrian crushed it. It resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews. In an effort to suppress Jewish identity, Hadrian renamed the province. The name “Palaestina” was derived from the Philistines, a people who had lived in the region centuries earlier. The addition of the name “Syria” was intended to emphasize the province’s status as a Roman province.
Renaming was an attempt to render extinct the Jewish nature and history of the land and to humiliate the restive Jews. It was a reminder of the Roman Empire’s power. The name Syria Palaestina remained in use until the 7th century, when the region was conquered by the Arabs.
The Arabs ruled until the Crusaders took land back, then lost it to Arabs, who lost it to the Ottomans (a Turkic people) in 1517.
As a consequence of their loss in WWI, the Turks gave control of the region known as Palestine to the British n 1917.
Between 1917 and 1920, Palestine was under the control of the British military after their conquest of the region.

In December 1917, British forces under General Edmund Allenby captured Jerusalem, ending Ottoman rule. ​

From 1917-1920, Palestine was occupied by the British and governed by the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA), part of the British military. ​

In 1920, Britain was officially granted control of Palestine by the San Remo Conference. The British Mandate for Palestine then governed the region from 1920 until 1948. ​

~Snip~
The San Remo Conference resolutions required Britain to facilitate the creation of a Jewish national home in Mandatory Palestine per the policies of the Balfour Declaration.
Before moving on:

• There never was a Palestinian state or country.
• There never was rule by anything called a Palestinian.
• The land of Mandatory Palestine was to be the Jewish national homeland in an area occupied continuously by Jews for millennia.
• Jewish rule and occupancy antedated the advent of the newcomer religion Islam by millennia.
• Mandatory Palestine, set aside for the National Homeland of the Jews, had its territory diminished by around seven eighths, in contravention of their mandatory obligations by the British to create Transjordan (now commonly known as Jordan).

Myth 2. Palestinians
No state, no nation, no people. Palestine never existed, hence Palestinians never existed, do not exist. Full stop.
Don’t believe me? Take it from the mouth of a bona fide Palestinian terrorist.
Zuheir Mohsen, leader of the Palestinian terror group As Saiqa, explained in a 1970 interview with James Dorsey for the Dutch newspaper Trouw why the “Palestinian people” had been invented:

The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. ​

There are many more myths — e.g., “land for peace,” “the West Bank,” “it is a territorial conflict,” etc.
But we can stop here and get on to the ultimate point of this essay.
Those of us who follow AT, and especially those who contribute, should display a certain integrity of thought in our approaches. Anyone who has followed this site for a week or two knows that we lament the overtaking of language by the left and its use as a weapon. Time after time, we complain about how the loss of truth in language packaging has served to propagandize the public.
~Snip~
Our language should reflect the precision we assert is missing. We should not use the term “Palestine” to describe Gaza, Judea and Samaria, Israel, or any other territory. We should not refer to the so-called Palestinians as a real people. We should not refer to Judea and Samaria as the “West Bank” (a term basically invented after 1967).
Myths have consequences. In the context of the myths presented here, the consequences are the slaughter of Jews, the rise of antisemitism in such frenzy that there are calls for the extermination of the Jews, and the peril of a broad-ranging international war.
We lead by taking action. We should act as we say. Otherwise, we are hypocrites.


Commentary:
Milli Sands has written an accurate thesis regarding Israel/Judea/Palaestina as we know the area today.
There is no such thing as Palestine or Palestinians. Palestine was the name given to Israel by the Roman Empire by Emperor Hadrian after they invaded and conquered it. Israelis never used or accepted the name and the people using it today are Islamic invaders and squatters.
Has anyone ever wondered why the Arab nations have never recognized "Palestinians", or allowed them citizenship? The answer is, they are the trailer trash of the Arab neighborhood.
“There was no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. "They did not exist.” -- Golda Meir
In truth "Palestinians" are in fact Jordanians and they are shunned entrance or citizenship by Jordan. Even Egypt refuses them entrance.

What an incredibly stupid problem for the U.S. to decide to make one of its top priorities

 

[Sixties Fan]

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No! Israel/Judea has been in existence before Christendom and existed before the eras of Rome, the Grecian/Macedonian and Persian influences in the Middle East.
Judean history goes back 6000 years...

Jewish History goes back 3800 years.
Israel as a United Kingdom goes back 3000 years.

Judea is Greek for Judah, the tribe of Judah.

 

[Sixties Fan]

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Why is it that you Democrat Socialists always try to rewrite history?
The facts are against you yet you continue. Is it your low IQ, or do you purposely lie?

Nothing to do with her being a Democrat.
She is obsessed with Islam and Arabs for growing up in Arabia.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Herodotus called it Syria Palestine in
500 BC.

You do know, because I made it very clear before, that the ONLY area Herodotus called Palestine was the area where the Philistines (Greeks) had lived, on the coast of Gaza.

Romans tried to erase Judea and Israel's history by renaming Judea after the two people who had defeated Israel before. Assyrians and Philistines. Therefore Syria Palestine, not because there was any Nation of Arabs calling themselves Palestinians in the area.

Copy and paste. Copy and paste.
That is all Surada does.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Who was there before them? What happened to the people of Jericho?

[What happened to the people of Jericho is the same that happened to the Babylonians, Phoenicians, Philistines and others in the area. They lost their history, culture, gods, blended with others or simply converted to the religion of the invaders, especially Christianity and then Islam. Unfortunately their descendants did not keep an oral history of them, and pass it on. These happens to people all over the world, at different times in history ]

[ Some sites/countries insist in calling the region Palestine instead of Ancient Canaan at the time. Of course ]

Old Testament Jericho has been identified in the mound known as Tall Al-Sulṭān (Tell es-Sultan; at the source of the copious spring ʿAyn Al-Sulṭān), which rises 70 feet (21 metres) above the surrounding plain; the site was designated a UNESCO World Heritage site in 2023. A number of major archaeological expeditions have worked at the site, notably in 1952–58 under Kathleen M. Kenyon, director of the British School of Archaeologyin Jerusalem; one of the main objectives has been to establish the date of the town’s destruction by the Israelites—a matter of importance for the chronology of the Israelite entry into Canaan. Most of the town of the period, including the whole circuit of the town walls, has been removed by erosion; enough survives to show only that there was a town of the period. This may have been destroyed in the second half of the 14th century BCE, but evidence is too scanty for precision. The site was then abandoned until the Iron Age. Little trace has been found of the 9th-century-BCEoccupation attributed to Hiel, but there was a sizable settlement in the 7th century BCE, ending perhaps at the time of the second Babylonian Exile in 586 BCE. The site was then finally abandoned, and the later Jerichos grew up elsewhere.

(full article online)

Jericho | Facts & History

Jericho, West Bank town that is one of the oldest continuously inhabited settlements in the world and thus also a site of great archaeological importance. The town is perhaps most famous as the site of the biblical Battle of Jericho. In 1994 it became one of the first towns administered by the...

www.britannica.com

 

[JusticeHammer]

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Why is it that you Democrat Socialists always try to rewrite history?
The facts are against you yet you continue. Is it your low IQ, or do you purposely lie?

Both

 

[surada]

You do know, because I made it very clear before, that the ONLY area Herodotus called Palestine was the area where the Philistines (Greeks) had lived, on the coast of Gaza.

Romans tried to erase Judea and Israel's history by renaming Judea after the two people who had defeated Israel before. Assyrians and Philistines. Therefore Syria Palestine, not because there was any Nation of Arabs calling themselves Palestinians in the area.

Copy and paste. Copy and paste.
That is all Surada does.

That's not true.

What were the demographics of Palestine in 1922?

The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality.

The division into religious groups was 590,890 Muslims, 83,794 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 408 Sikhs, 265 Baháʼís, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans.

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia › wiki
1922 census of Palestine - Wikipedia

 

[surada]

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East​

The Two Big Myths about the Middle East

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led. Myth 1. The State of Palestine This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions: a. It never appea...

www.americanthinker.com

23 Oct 2023 ~~ By Milli Sands

Propagation of myths has consequences. Let us examine a couple and see where they have led.

Myth 1. The State of Palestine
This so-called state is like Brigadoon, with two exceptions:

a. It never appeared. ​

b. It refuses to go away. ​

Neither a country nor a state of Palestine has ever existed.
~Snip~
In 66 AD, the Jewish people revolted against Roman rule. The revolt lasted for seven years and ended with the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
The name Judea was changed to Syria Palaestina by the Roman emperor Hadrian in 135 AD, following the Bar Kokhba revolt. The revolt was a Jewish uprising against Roman rule, and Hadrian crushed it. It resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews. In an effort to suppress Jewish identity, Hadrian renamed the province. The name “Palaestina” was derived from the Philistines, a people who had lived in the region centuries earlier. The addition of the name “Syria” was intended to emphasize the province’s status as a Roman province.
Renaming was an attempt to render extinct the Jewish nature and history of the land and to humiliate the restive Jews. It was a reminder of the Roman Empire’s power. The name Syria Palaestina remained in use until the 7th century, when the region was conquered by the Arabs.
The Arabs ruled until the Crusaders took land back, then lost it to Arabs, who lost it to the Ottomans (a Turkic people) in 1517.
As a consequence of their loss in WWI, the Turks gave control of the region known as Palestine to the British n 1917.
Between 1917 and 1920, Palestine was under the control of the British military after their conquest of the region.

In December 1917, British forces under General Edmund Allenby captured Jerusalem, ending Ottoman rule. ​

From 1917-1920, Palestine was occupied by the British and governed by the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA), part of the British military. ​

In 1920, Britain was officially granted control of Palestine by the San Remo Conference. The British Mandate for Palestine then governed the region from 1920 until 1948. ​

~Snip~
The San Remo Conference resolutions required Britain to facilitate the creation of a Jewish national home in Mandatory Palestine per the policies of the Balfour Declaration.
Before moving on:

• There never was a Palestinian state or country.
• There never was rule by anything called a Palestinian.
• The land of Mandatory Palestine was to be the Jewish national homeland in an area occupied continuously by Jews for millennia.
• Jewish rule and occupancy antedated the advent of the newcomer religion Islam by millennia.
• Mandatory Palestine, set aside for the National Homeland of the Jews, had its territory diminished by around seven eighths, in contravention of their mandatory obligations by the British to create Transjordan (now commonly known as Jordan).

Myth 2. Palestinians
No state, no nation, no people. Palestine never existed, hence Palestinians never existed, do not exist. Full stop.
Don’t believe me? Take it from the mouth of a bona fide Palestinian terrorist.
Zuheir Mohsen, leader of the Palestinian terror group As Saiqa, explained in a 1970 interview with James Dorsey for the Dutch newspaper Trouw why the “Palestinian people” had been invented:

The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. ​

There are many more myths — e.g., “land for peace,” “the West Bank,” “it is a territorial conflict,” etc.
But we can stop here and get on to the ultimate point of this essay.
Those of us who follow AT, and especially those who contribute, should display a certain integrity of thought in our approaches. Anyone who has followed this site for a week or two knows that we lament the overtaking of language by the left and its use as a weapon. Time after time, we complain about how the loss of truth in language packaging has served to propagandize the public.
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Our language should reflect the precision we assert is missing. We should not use the term “Palestine” to describe Gaza, Judea and Samaria, Israel, or any other territory. We should not refer to the so-called Palestinians as a real people. We should not refer to Judea and Samaria as the “West Bank” (a term basically invented after 1967).
Myths have consequences. In the context of the myths presented here, the consequences are the slaughter of Jews, the rise of antisemitism in such frenzy that there are calls for the extermination of the Jews, and the peril of a broad-ranging international war.
We lead by taking action. We should act as we say. Otherwise, we are hypocrites.


Commentary:
Milli Sands has written an accurate thesis regarding Israel/Judea/Palaestina as we know the area today.
There is no such thing as Palestine or Palestinians. Palestine was the name given to Israel by the Roman Empire by Emperor Hadrian after they invaded and conquered it. Israelis never used or accepted the name and the people using it today are Islamic invaders and squatters.
Has anyone ever wondered why the Arab nations have never recognized "Palestinians", or allowed them citizenship? The answer is, they are the trailer trash of the Arab neighborhood.
“There was no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. "They did not exist.” -- Golda Meir
In truth "Palestinians" are in fact Jordanians and they are shunned entrance or citizenship by Jordan. Even Egypt refuses them entrance.

Palestine was not named after the Philistines who were a Sea people from the Aegean.

Liar.

Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria have taken in tens of thousands of refugees.

This theft and genocide has been going on for 70 years.

Zionist Aspirations in Palestine - 20.07

Atlantic Unbound: The Atlantic Monthly Magazine Online

www.theatlantic.com

 

[surada]

Couldn't the same be said about the Israelis?

It was named Syria -palestine by the Greeks in 500 BC.

He said: "Eighty percent of the incidents worked like this: We would send tractors to plow in an area of little use, in a demilitarized zone, knowing ahead of time that the Syrians would shoot. If they didn't start shooting, we would tell the tractors to advance until the Syrians would get aggravated and start shooting. We used artillery,

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Ex-Israeli minister blames greed for Golan conquest

Thirty years after Israel conquered the Golan Heights from Syria, in what Israelis have said was an entirely defensive operation, the defense minister at the time, Moshe Dayan, has been quoted as saying that the capture was largely the product of greed. In frank and startling conversations...

www.deseret.com

 

[Doc7505]

That's not true.

What were the demographics of Palestine in 1922?

The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality.

The division into religious groups was 590,890 Muslims, 83,794 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 408 Sikhs, 265 Baháʼís, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans.

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia › wiki
1922 census of Palestine - Wikipedia

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I see no ethnic population named Palestinian.
Meanwhile the Mufti of Jerusalem was extracting Jizya from both Jews and Christians in 1922...

 

[ozro]

How far back in time shall we go to establish the right to land?
I am identifying as a neanderthal, now all you fuckers GET OFF MY LAND!
Seriously, in the here and now, Israel exists, as do all the other countries. Palestine had many chances to exist, but could not accept their neighbors. Therefore, they gotta go.