The truth on the Renee Good shooting lies in the middle

That's not the shooting. The shooting is below. Is the shooter hit by the car?
If yes, please describe what happens:
1. He was in front of the car
2. She started moving forward, he pulled his gun
3. She floored it at him, he shot once into the windshield, he obviously got hit by the car and shot twice more

Same as shown in this video.
 
So like most of these stories a lot of details are left out.

Is **** ICE a smart response when youre a US Citizen holding your passport and a little pack of angry dudes walks at you?

Oh you can do it but there might be consequences. Like be detained until they sort it out and release you hours later.

Which is what happened here.

If the ATF acted like ICE does, you'd be out here mewling, "What about my Second Amendment Rights?"
 
Which is not what we are talking about. This is kind of a motte and bailey defense here.

The definition of a lawful command depends a lot on the circumstances. ICE cannot force you to give them your ID or answer any questions unless they have reasonable suspicion. Refusing to comply with mere requests does not constitute reasonable suspicion. Telling ICE to **** of when they make requests does not constitute reasonable suspicion. It definitely doesn’t constitute obstruction.

None of this really seems to matter to anyone on your side and you’ll spend a lot of time and effort trying to skirt the issues.
ICE can detain if you don't verify citizenship until they verify and if you're illegal then arrest or release you.

Here are some lawful commands that ICE can give you that failure to obey will get you snatched up for verification:

  • Back up
  • Stop the car
  • Get out of the car

ICE is not just detaining people because they are minorities.
 
I see that you disagree with my perception on what occurred.

Let me try this.

We are going to continue enforcing these laws and if anything, this will cause us to be even less worried about the lives of your "protestors".

Do you want to see more of your people die?

Again, with that attitude, people are going to turn against you even faster.

You are essentially using deadly force on people protesting the enforcement of misdemeanors.

This was a bad look with George Floyd, and it was a far worse look with this woman.
 
She should not have been there.
Does that apply to Charlie Kirk too?

Idiot.
She was acting like an asshole, blocking traffic.
Gotcha assholes blocking traffic should be shot.

Idiot.
She still may have been killed by trigger happy ICE fellow.

Maybe both sides are to blame for escalating things?
Nope. The Ice officer killed her. It is clear cut.
Maybe it's time to respect ICE?
Bend over and ask them to bang you then.
 
She did nothing wrong.
If a suspect flees in a vehicle, you do not shoot at them. You try to stop the vehicle. Police protocols forbid every action the officer took. He created jeopardy and then applied deadly force.
Renee used her vehicle as a weapon, she floored it and hit him. She should have gotten out of the car.
Police/ICE protocols allow self-defense.
What are you Maga d-sucks going to do when an administration you dislike use ICE to after you? You are setting them up for it.
We're Americans, we love ICE. Democrats are criminals who love and protect criminals.
 

that the decision by a peace officer to use deadly force shall be evaluated from the perspective of a reasonable officer in the same situation, based on the totality of the circumstances known to or perceived by the officer at the time, rather than with the benefit of hindsight, and that the totality of the circumstances shall account for occasions when officers may be forced to make quick judgments about using deadly force;
 
Renee used her vehicle as a weapon, she floored it and hit him. She should have gotten out of the car.
Police/ICE protocols allow self-defense.

We're Americans, we love ICE. Democrats are criminals who love and protect criminals.
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ICE are in my prayers every morning. I suggest all others pray for their safety as well.

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Does that apply to Charlie Kirk too?
Idiot.
Gotcha assholes blocking traffic should be shot.
Idiot.
Nope. The Ice officer killed her. It is clear cut.
Bend over and ask them to bang you then.
You'll end up being ignored if you keep up the moronic posts.
Renee should have been at work or at home instead of harassing ICE doing their job arresting criminals.
 
ICE can detain if you don't verify citizenship until they verify and if you're illegal then arrest or release you.

Here are some lawful commands that ICE can give you that failure to obey will get you snatched up for verification:

  • Back up
  • Stop the car
  • Get out of the car

ICE is not just detaining people because they are minorities.
Again, you don’t have to verify anything with ICE unless they have reasonable suspicion. This isn’t controversial but you seem to intent to dance around this issue. As you’ve agreed, being a minority isn’t reasonable suspicion. Not that you care.

Second, ICE can’t order you to do anything without a reason.

They can tell you to back up if you’re close enough to interfere with a law enforcement activity. They can’t tell you to get out of the car unless they have the legal right to detain you.

They can’t tell you to stop recording either. Recording interactions is a first amendment right.

But we’ve seen ICE agents assault people who are recording them, in order to take their phones. Not that you care.
 
You'll end up being ignored if you keep up the moronic posts.
Renee should have been at work or at home instead of harassing ICE doing their job arresting criminals.
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No better time than right now.

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Again, you don’t have to verify anything with ICE unless they have reasonable suspicion. This isn’t controversial but you seem to intent to dance around this issue. As you’ve agreed, being a minority isn’t reasonable suspicion. Not that you care.
Reasonable suspicion is interfering with law enforcement activities.

It is very low standard and leeway is on the side of law enforcement.

Please provide examples to support your assertion minorities are being rounded up solely because they are minorities ?
 
ICE is not just detaining people because they are minorities.

92% of ICE Detention Growth in FY 2026 Driven by Immigrants with No Criminal Convictions​


They appear to be detaining people because they can.
 
Reasonable suspicion is interfering with law enforcement activities.

It is very low standard and leeway is on the side of law enforcement.

Please provide examples to support your assertion minorities are being rounded up solely because they are minorities ?

You’ve already decided that ICE can do no wrong so no matter what happens, you’ll come up with a justification for it.

It’s like when Bush said the US doesn’t torture so whatever the US does can’t be torture.
 
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