The truth on the Renee Good shooting lies in the middle

[BackAgain]

When the federal government starts shooting Americans, it is just a matter of time before they start shooting back.

People have been shot by law enforcement many times in the past when they have done dumb shit TO law enforcement like driving their cars at the officials.

You’re still a completely unpersuasive hack ***** dishonest troll, lil g.

 

[Hollie]

Lol. Hold on a second, wasn't it the right that attacked democracy and tried to overturn a democratic election in 2021? Trump False Electors Plot

People are allowed to be angry at ICE. As I said in another comment, there are people that were bought here as a young child and all they know is America. And those people are being caught up in ICE raids in some cases. Empathy. You guys should try it sometime.

Empathy™. For who, your heroes?

ICE arrests in Minnesota surge include numerous convicted child rapists, killers

ICE arrested convicted criminals in Minnesota, including alleged child rapists and killers with decades-old deportation orders still roaming free.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Correll]

Lol. Hold on a second, wasn't it the right that attacked democracy and tried to overturn a democratic election in 2021? Trump False Electors Plot

Well, NO, but even if it was, that a tiny portion of the "right" did something back in 2021, is not relevant to what the left is doing TODAY, in 2026, ie using force to try to stop the enforcement of democratically enacted laws.

I mean, that was a really stupid thing to bring up. It is clear that you don't like that the laws being enforced were democratically enacts, but they were.

And you and your side is using force to try to prevent them from being enforced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

People are allowed to be angry at ICE.

Yes. That is certainly true. No one is claiming otherwise.

What people are NOT allowed to do, is to use force to try to prevent the enforcement of democratically enacted laws.

That is, to my admittedly NOT A LAWYER understanding of the law,

technically rebellion, or possibly treason.

As I said in another comment, there are people that were bought here as a young child and all they know is America. And those people are being caught up in ICE raids in some cases. Empathy. You guys should try it sometime.

This is you trying to justify your support for the use of force to fight the duly elected US government.

You are not doing democracy now. You are refusing to respect the peaceful transfer of power.

How much do you think one side has to NOT RESPECT THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER,

before it is fair for the other side to stop too?

Then we can just settle things the old fashioned way, violence in the streets, and with bodies hanging from trees and mass graves.


I mean, that seems to be your plan. You did consider the obvious consequences of your actions, right?


HAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

[Correll]

Nah, you guys sound scared to me. Like, with this Good case, there are many people here that are so scared that they deny the laws of physics and motion. They say that Good was intentionally aiming for the officer, despite the fact that the wheels were turned fully right, and away from the officer. They say that if the officer had not discharged his weapon, she would have killed him, depite the fact that the laws of physics and motion dictate that even if he had not discharged his weapon, it wouldn't have made a single difference to his threat level. In fact, discharing his weapon actually caused more potential danger, since it caused the car to have uncontrolled acceleration.

I see that you disagree with my perception on what occurred.

Let me try this.

We are going to continue enforcing these laws and if anything, this will cause us to be even less worried about the lives of your "protestors".

Do you want to see more of your people die?

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

Trump fake electors plot - Wikipedia


Yes. That is certainly true. No one is claiming otherwise.

What people are NOT allowed to do, is to use force to try to prevent the enforcement of democratically enacted laws.

That is, to my admittedly NOT A LAWYER understanding of the law,

technically rebellion, or possibly treason.







This is you trying to justify your support for the use of force to fight the duly elected US government.

You are not doing democracy now. You are refusing to respect the peaceful transfer of power.

How much do you think one side has to NOT RESPECT THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER,

before it is fair for the other side to stop too?

Then we can just settle things the old fashioned way, violence in the streets, and with bodies hanging from trees and mass graves.


I mean, that seems to be your plan. You did consider the obvious consequences of your actions, right?


HAHAHAHAHAHA.

People are allowed to protest though. I agree, people are not allowed to use force to try to prevent the enforcement of democractically enacted law. I'm clearly not arguing here that people should take illegal actions to protest. I'm saying that you guys are so scared, that you think the videos that have come out is justification for an officer discharging their weapon and killing a person that was trying to flee. And it makes me question if you can even consider a country where the officers are not armed, but do have cars in their country. I'm genuinely interested. Does the thought of a country (that has cars) having law encorcement that is not armed give you anxiety for their officers because of the cars?

Well, NO, but even if it was, that a tiny portion of the "right" did something back in 2021, is not relevant to what the left is doing TODAY, in 2026, ie using force to try to stop the enforcement of democratically enacted laws.

I mean, that was a really stupid thing to bring up. It is clear that you don't like that the laws being enforced were democratically enacts, but they were.

And you and your side is using force to try to prevent them from being enforced.

I'm sorry, that was a tiny portion of the right? Trump literally tried to steal the election. It was an attack against Democracy in the US. Did you read the link I gave you? A tiny portion? The ****?

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

I see that you disagree with my perception on what occurred.

Let me try this.

We are going to continue enforcing these laws and if anything, this will cause us to be even less worried about the lives of your "protestors".

Do you want to see more of your people die?

That's what I thought.

 

[Correll]

People are allowed to protest though.

Don't play retard. This is not "protest". This is the use of force against legal US government policy.

I agree, people are not allowed to use force to try to prevent the enforcement of democractically enacted law. I'm clearly not arguing here that people should take illegal actions to protest.

Yes, you clearly are.

I'm saying that you guys are so scared, that you think the videos that have come out is justification for an officer discharging their weapon and killing a person that was trying to flee. And it makes me question if you can even consider a country where the officers are not armed, but do have cars in their country. I'm genuinely interested. Does the thought of a country (that has cars) having law encorcement that is not armed give you anxiety for their officers because of the cars?

YOur shit talk is you supporting the lefties using force against the law enforcement.

You want to see this continue, even at the cost of more deaths.

Your intent is clear.

I'm sorry, that was a tiny portion of the right? Trump literally tried to steal the election. It was an attack against Democracy in the US. Did you read the link I gave you? A tiny portion? The ****?

It was a protest that got out of hand. It was nothing like this today, with all the LEFT organized and following their scripts, like well trained sheep.

You can shit talk. That will not change anything. WE over here, will be making our deicsions based on the reality of the sitaution, your coping be damned.

If your side continues to try to use force to fight the enforcement of the law, more and more people will get hurt.

Are you prepared to face that?

HAHAHAHA. I'm joking. I know that your plan is to be shocked at the obvious conseqences of your actions and to pretend to be too retarded to know that they would happen.

 

[Correll]

That's what I thought.

So, you know that we will continue to enforce the law.


What will your side's actions be?


Settle down and try to win the next election so that you can change policy legally?


Or continue to try to use force to stop the duly elected government from enforcing the law?


You have stated that you do not support that. Yet, you are clearly supporting it, in every way.

So... what is your shit talk response?

 

[Billiejeens]

Left says it was murder by out of control ICE agent.
Right says she tried to drive into the agent.

It says here that the truth is somewhere in the middle.

1. She never should have been there to begin with
2. She was an anti ICE crusader.
3. She may or may not have tried to drive over the agent. Video inconclusive.
4. The agent was trigger happy.

Respect ICE and respect our immigration laws and this won't happen again.

You may not know where the middle is.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Consider a teenager. He's brown, by the way, which will matter. Working at his job moving carts in the parking lot of a store.

ICE shows up with a dozen of their militarized, masked, angry looking dudes walking in an angry little pack.

The teenager says "**** ICE". ICE starts walking towards him, so he walks backwards, saying "**** ICE" numerous times.

What happens next? ICE agent grabs him and throws him to the ground where four others sit on him and cuff him, throwing him in the back of an SUV and driving him away. He has his passport in his pocket at the time. He's a citizen. He's released hours later.

Why was he thrown to the ground and hauled off to their little headquarters? I mean, we don't know for sure, but it wasn't because they were looking for him. Most certainly it was because he disrespected them.

This is a clear violation of the first amendment. You guys keep banging the desk saying that any minor infraction of the law must be dealt with immediately with as much force as is necessary, but you don't really care that ICE can trample all over the constitution on a daily basis and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

That’s some imagination you have there. Mix in some feelings and you’ve made your fantasy.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

trump is a deranged man ,he believes Democrats and many other groups are enemies of the US. Look who he's targeting.

Enforcing the law is not targeting silly.

 

[Billiejeens]

Yeah...A guy who previously got dragged 100 yards by a violent illegal lunatic, is going to "throw himself" in front of another vehicle.

******* loon.

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You know that Gator is just trolling

He's a troll.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

Don't play retard. This is not "protest". This is the use of force against legal US government policy.

What? In this, I'm assuming you're talking about Good. I agree, that obstruction is not right. But I don't think you should be executed for obstruction.

Your intent is clear.

Classic MAGA. "Your intent is clear, I'm going to kill you all"

It was a protest that got out of hand. It was nothing like this today, with all the LEFT organized and following their scripts, like well trained sheep.

So you obviously know nothing about what Trump did in his attempts to overturn the election? I will give you the extremely short version, but I'm willing to go a lot more in depth. Trump, even before the election happened, decided that there would be mass voter fraud by the left. After he lost the election, and in the leadup to the transfer of power on January 6th, he conspired and organized a false slate of electors. This was a fraudulent set of electors from some of the swing states that they convinced and organized to submit their own fraudulent certificates. They wanted Mike Pence to accept the fraudulent set over the real set so he could remain in power, or, at the very least they wanted to use it to create confusion and ultimately delay the transfer of power. Luckily, he didn't have JD Vance as his VP, and Pence refused to go along with their plan. There is much evidence of the pressure they applied to Pence in the Jan 6th committee report.

"I want the American People to know that I had no right to overturn the election. And that on that day, President Trump asked me to put him over the constitution, but I chose the constitution, and I always will. Anyone who puts themself over the constitution should never be President of the United States, and anyone who asks someone else to put themselves over the constitution should never be President of the United States again. But what the president maintained that day, and frankly has said over and over again over the last 2.5 years, is completely false." - Mike Pence.

Now imagine if any Democrat VP had said something similar to what Pence said here?

Any true patriotic American should hate Trump. That's the truth.

 

[Correll]

What? In this, I'm assuming you're talking about Good. I agree, that obstruction is not right. But I don't think you should be executed for obstruction.

So, you admit what she did was OBSTRUCTION.

So, why were you talking shit about "protest"?

You already have ONE death from this large strategy of obstruction.

Do you wish to see it continue, with more deaths?

Or do you want to see it stop, and no more deaths?

Classic MAGA. "Your intent is clear, I'm going to kill you all"

Except, i want the law enforced as peacefully and easily as possible, and you are the one that is supporting a strategy that is certain to get MORE violence, MORE death, and more civil unrest.

So you obviously know nothing about what Trump did in his attempts to overturn the election? I willl give you the extremely short version, but I'm willing to go a lot more in depth. Trump, even before the election happened, decided that there would be mass voter fraud by the left. After he lost the election, and in the leadup to the transfer of power on January 6th, he conspired and organized a false slate of electors. This was a fraudelent set of electors from some of the swing states that submitted their own fraudlent certificates. They wanted Mike Pence to accept the fraudlent set over the real set so he could remain in power, and, at the very least they wanted to use it to create confusion and ultimately delay the transfer of power. Lukily, he didn't have JD Vance as his VP, and Pence refused to go along with their plan. There is much evidence of the pressure they applied to Pence in the Jan 6th committee report.

"I want the American People to know that I had no right to overturn the election. And that on that day, President Trump asked me to put him over the constitution, but I chose the constitution, and I always will. Anyone who puts themself over the constitution should never be President of the United States, and anyone who asks someone else to put themselves over the constitution should never be President of the United States again. But what the president maintained that day, and frankly has said over and over again over the last 2.5 years, is completely false." - Mike Pence.

Now imagine if any Democrat VP had said something simliar to what Pence said here?

Any true patriotic American should hate Trump. That's the truth.

There were plenty of good reasons to be skeptical of hte vote count of that election.

And again, there is nothing about what happened THEN, that is relevant to the actions of the left TODAY.

TODAY, it is YOUR SIDE, that has stopped playing democracy.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

So, you admit what she did was OBSTRUCTION.

I'm just going on what you guys are saying. I don't know or believe anything because we don't have enough information to know it. What I do know though, is that even if your scenarios are completely correct in why she was there, then it still doesn't justify executing someone in the way that they did.

You already have ONE death from this large strategy of obstruction.

Do you wish to see it continue, with more deaths?

I don't think there is a large strategy of obstruction. I think there is a large strategy of protests. It's like if I took one video of an ICE officing using unnecessary force and then classing all of ICE as doing that? Do you not think I can do that?

Or do you want to see it stop, and no more deaths?

LOL, dude, why do you keep phrasing things as threats?

Except, i want the law enforced as peacefully and easily as possible, and you are the one that is supporting a strategy that is certain to get MORE violence, MORE death, and more civil unrest.

Let me tell you. I saw a video of an ICE officer abusing their power. Now, I want the law enforced as peacefully and easily as possible, but you are the one supporting a strategy that is certain to get MORE violence, MORE death, and more civil unrest.

There were plenty of good reasons to be skeptical of hte vote count of that election.

It's just as I thought. You have no defense. You can't defend it. You claim to be a patriotic American, but you are nothing but a scared *****.

 

[buttercup]

You might tend to say that when you get hit by a car.

Based on the clips I've seen, to me it looks pretty obvious that he was trying to stop her from leaving by placing himself where he was and purposely not simply moving out the way. In one of the clips, you can see that she turned the wheel and her tires were facing to the right, away from the shooter. So I just don't think she was intentionally trying to run him over.

Furthermore, beforehand he had already gotten her license plate info. So IF she was guilty of anything illegal BEFORE the incident took place... they knew who she was and how to find her. Why was it SO important and urgent to stop her from leaving? I mean, it's not as if she robbed a bank or just did a mass shooting. I'm talking about BEFORE the incident in question... why the unnecessary escalation for something that they could have charged her for later, if she really was guilty of anything illegal before the incident took place.

But frankly, I'm getting tired of this whole topic. Until we know more, I'm not that interested in arguing about it. I think there is something else FAR more important and interesting than this particular incident... but it's a topic for a new thread, because it is related to this story, but it's much bigger than this particular story. If I have time, maybe I'll start a thread on what I have in mind, but I don't want to bring it up right now.

 

[Marener]

So like most of these stories a lot of details are left out.

Is **** ICE a smart response when youre a US Citizen holding your passport and a little pack of angry dudes walks at you?

Oh you can do it but there might be consequences. Like be detained until they sort it out and release you hours later.

Which is what happened here.

Precisely my point.

ICE violates free speech. Although we both know saying “**** ICE” is theoretically protected speech, you can and probably will face consequences for it including being physically assaulted by the government.

 

[Soupnazi630]

She is absolutely a hero.
Fighting Fascism is a noble cause.
We told you this shooting would happen when the Puppy-Killer started hiring Mall Cop Rejects to be ICE agents.

She fought no fascism

She tried trying to run over an agent

You never said any such thing and she is responsible for her own death

 

[Concerned American]

Okay, provocateur.

Philistine

 

[Concerned American]

Precisely my point.

ICE violates free speech. Although we both know saying “**** ICE” is theoretically protected speech, you can and probably will face consequences for it including being physically assaulted by the government.

Irrelevant to the topic. Renee Good assaulted a law enforcement officer with a deadly weapon and FAFO. Return to the topic.