The Trump/Jesus Comparison

[WinterBorn]

I agree about the Democrats. Nothing but a string of unqualified unaccomplished losers, headed by 0bama. But Trump is probably the most qualified EVER to run for president with his sterling 50-year business experience. And it showed. He was among the most successful presidents in history on all fronts.

The only way you can be naive enough to claim Trump was among the most successful presidents in history is to be blissfully unaware of the facts.

 

[Mashmont]

The only way you can be naive enough to claim Trump was among the most successful presidents in history is to be blissfully unaware of the facts.

I lived it. Trump was great in every area. You can't name an area he wasn't great in.

 

[WinterBorn]

I lived it. Trump was great in every area. You can't name an area he wasn't great in.

Lowering the deficit?

His handling of the Covid outbreak?

The way he handled the loss in the 2020 election?


The man has been a disaster.

 

[Mashmont]

Lowering the deficit?

His handling of the Covid outbreak?

The way he handled the loss in the 2020 election?


The man has been a disaster.

1. COVID spending that he was opposed to
2 He got us the vaccination before the end of 2020 as promised, (and for which he was ridiculed for promising)
3. He actually won the 2020 election. Democrats stole it through illegals and mail-in ballots in states where no proof of ID was required.

 

[mamooth]

The antichrist was prophesized to recover from a head wound.

That was the only way left in which Trump didn't match the antichrist. Now he hits 100% of the antichrist buttons.

Thus, his followers love him more.

 

[WinterBorn]

1. COVID spending that he was opposed to
2 He got us the vaccination before the end of 2020 as promised, (and for which he was ridiculed for promising)
3. He actually won the 2020 election. Democrats stole it through illegals and mail-in ballots in states where no proof of ID was required.

1. COVID spending that he was opposed to
2 He got us the vaccination before the end of 2020 as promised, (and for which he was ridiculed for promising)
3. He actually won the 2020 election. Democrats stole it through illegals and mail-in ballots in states where no proof of ID was required.

1. The deficit was soaring under Trump BEFORE the pandemic.
2. The roll-out of the vaccine was a dismal failure.
3. No, he did not win the 2020 election. That is why no court would hear the case.

 

[Mashmont]

1. The deficit was soaring under Trump BEFORE the pandemic.
2. The roll-out of the vaccine was a dismal failure.
3. No, he did not win the 2020 election. That is why no court would hear the case.

No court would hear the case because of lack of standing. No court ever heard the details of the steal.
Concerning the deficit, your statement is a lie. The numbers of the deficit spending in his term project over ten years, meaning the majority of the money was spent under Biden. Ooops.

 

[WinterBorn]

No court would hear the case because of lack of standing. No court ever heard the details of the steal.
Concerning the deficit, your statement is a lie. The numbers of the deficit spending in his term project over ten years, meaning the majority of the money was spent under Biden. Ooops.

No court would hear it because of the lack of evidence. It was not a stolen election. It was a childish tantrum by the loser.

The numbers for the deficit are simple. It is the amount spent that is over amount coming in. It is posted as a fiscal year figure.

 

[buttercup]

Donald Trump was the greatest, most selfless, most honest, most accomplished president in U.S. history. He accomplished more great things—unbelievable things—in his four years than any president in history. He has selflessly donated his enormous talents for the good of the country, when it would have been much easier to settle into retirement at Mar-a-Lago on his yacht. So I’ve wondered, given all that, why the extreme vitriol against against this great man. Why the constant investigations, the impeachments, the lawsuits? And then I am reminded of how Jesus was treated.

Jesus Christ is the most perfect person who has ever existed, and he suffered the most ignominious murders of anyone in history. The most extreme in both directions. And so if it happens to Him, why would I be surprised that a lesser man, great as he was, like Donald Trump was treated very badly? That’s the road for people trying to do the right thing always. It’s never easy. You have a share of people who hate you.

Matthew, CHAPTER 7 “Enter through the narrow gate;Matthew, CHAPTER 7Matthew, CHAPTER 7 for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those who enter through it are many.j How narrow the gate and constricted the road that leads to life. And those who find it are few. – Matthew 7: 13-14.

Like most of my threads, I know this one will be misrepresented and lied about. People will declare blasphemy, claiming I said Trump was as virtuous as Jesus. Not saying that at all. Trump was a man of many flaws, leading a sinful life in his younger years. But in recent years and during his first term, there was ample evidence he had turned the corner. His selfless leadership exhibited that change. St Paul, we recall, was a dreadful sinner early in his life. He completely transformed and became among the greatest saints ever.

Jesus was perfect, but the atheists of His day murdered Him. The thousands of great selfless priests and sisters under the atheist Nazi and Communist regimes were led to slaughter like lambs and murdered by the thousands. Today, Christians are being murdered by the non-Christians all over the world. Just the same as when I start a thread on the said life of George Carlin, then I’m labeled as the worst person on earth for daring to challenge the destruction of a drugged life, when you think I’d be agreed with. It’s the very same pattern. Good people trying to do the right thing will be attacked or worse by the atheists. That’s the way it always has been and the way it will be. So I needn’t be surprised at the unprecedently vile treatment President Trump has received at the hands of the current atheists. It’s expected.

Let’s contrast this with the ‘wide easy road’ enjoyed by the wicked Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, and Bill Clinton. Vile evil people who have and are committing much sin, graft and deceit. They are praised by the atheist left as heroes. As great people. Immune from criticism. They enjoy the “wide easy road” here on earth. We know what the bible says about that.

So my Christian friends, rest easy. Godless people crucify the virtuous. This is our lot in life. We will have the strength to handle it. Good people can handle it. Donald Trump can handle it.

Mindsets like ^ this are why I changed my sig to Isaiah 2:22. (And since I'll change it again later, I'll post it here)

"Stop trusting in man, whose breath is in his nostrils; for of what account is he?" - Isaiah 2:22​

Here's how the ERV put it:

"Stop trusting other people to save you. Do not think too highly of them; they are only humans who have not stopped breathing yet." ​

 

[Mashmont]

Mindsets like ^ this are why I changed my sig to Isaiah 2:22. (And since I'll change it again later, I'll post it here)

"Stop trusting in man, whose breath is in his nostrils; for of what account is he?" - Isaiah 2:22​

Here's how the ERV put it:

"Stop trusting other people to save you. Do not think too highly of them; they are only humans who have not stopped breathing yet." ​

Atheist Winterborn trophies a biblical quote. Gotta love that.

As for Buttercup, I guess she's in the Biden camp. Hard to see how a Christian goes that way, but whatever.

 

[SweetSue92]

Atheist Winterborn trophies a biblical quote. Gotta love that.

As for Buttercup, I guess she's in the Biden camp. Hard to see how a Christian goes that way, but whatever.

Trump was a good president and hopefully will be again.

He was persecuted and Jesus Christ was persecuted.

But that's about the only connection I can make. To be honest I have no indication that Trump himself is even a regenerated Christian. He is certainly favorable for Christians, but himself? I don't know.

 

[Mashmont]

Trump was a good president and hopefully will be again.

He was persecuted and Jesus Christ was persecuted.

But that's about the only connection I can make. To be honest I have no indication that Trump himself is even a regenerated Christian. He is certainly favorable for Christians, but himself? I don't know.

Right. The persecution was the only comparison I was making.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Mindsets like ^ this are why I changed my sig to Isaiah 2:22. (And since I'll change it again later, I'll post it here)

"Stop trusting in man, whose breath is in his nostrils; for of what account is he?" - Isaiah 2:22​

Here's how the ERV put it:

"Stop trusting other people to save you. Do not think too highly of them; they are only humans who have not stopped breathing yet." ​

You mislead. You give him zero credit when you should be agreeing with him. You missed these words in the very quote:

Like most of my threads, I know this one will be misrepresented and lied about. People will declare blasphemy, claiming I said Trump was as virtuous as Jesus. Not saying that at all. Trump was a man of many flaws, leading a sinful life in his younger years. But in recent years and during his first term, there was ample evidence he had turned the corner. His selfless leadership exhibited that chang

 

[WinterBorn]

Atheist Winterborn trophies a biblical quote. Gotta love that.

As for Buttercup, I guess she's in the Biden camp. Hard to see how a Christian goes that way, but whatever.

If the quote fits, why wouldn't I use it?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

But that's about the only connection I can make. To be honest I have no indication that Trump himself is even a regenerated Christian. He is certainly favorable for Christians, but himself?

This one is easy. He's NOT Christian, but as you say, FAVORABLE to Christian principles despite his personal flaws

 

[buttercup]

Atheist Winterborn trophies a biblical quote. Gotta love that.

As for Buttercup, I guess she's in the Biden camp. Hard to see how a Christian goes that way, but whatever.

I wouldn't vote for Biden if my life depended on it. You clearly haven't read any of my posts in other sections in the last 14 years.

So please explain the "logic" in assuming that because I posted a TRUE statement that warns us not to put too much trust in mere mortals, to someone who is obviously trusting in Trump, then by golly, that must mean I support the opposition!

That illogical, binary, asinine mindset is even more embarrassing than your fanboi, misguided, ridiculous adoration of DJT.

Oh, and even if Winterborn is an atheist (I don't know if he is or isn't) why can't an atheist agree with true words? Should atheists disagree with everything in the bible, even when certain words are clearly true?

 

[buttercup]

You mislead. You give him zero credit when you should be agreeing with him. You missed these words in the very quote:

Like most of my threads, I know this one will be misrepresented and lied about. People will declare blasphemy, claiming I said Trump was as virtuous as Jesus. Not saying that at all. Trump was a man of many flaws, leading a sinful life in his younger years. But in recent years and during his first term, there was ample evidence he had turned the corner. His selfless leadership exhibited that chang

I never claimed that he thinks Trump is as virtuous as Jesus. That wasn't the point at all, the verse was about putting too much trust in mere mortals. And clearly I touched a nerve with you too...His and your reaction show that this verse hit a little close to home. My job here is done!

Thanks for the strawman though!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I never claimed that he thinks Trump is as virtuous as Jesus. That wasn't the point at all, the verse was about putting too much trust in mere mortals. And clearly I touched a nerve with you too...His and your reaction show that this verse hit a little close to home. My job here is done!

Thanks for the strawman though!

Anyone Reading your response would think otherwise.

You above all people should agree that you can respect a PERSON without worshipping that person as a god. Trump is FAR more right when it comes to policy than the current administration. For that we RESPECT him and will CHOOSE him over the alternative.

 

[Mashmont]

I never claimed that he thinks Trump is as virtuous as Jesus. That wasn't the point at all, the verse was about putting too much trust in mere mortals. And clearly I touched a nerve with you too...His and your reaction show that this verse hit a little close to home. My job here is done!

Thanks for the strawman though!

What was "job here"? To misrepresent my OP, as I predicted some would do?

 

[buttercup]

I put in my thread a disclaimer that Trump is an imperfect person which he highlighted yet you went right on with your gaslighting. You didn't even bother to read my full post.

I read your post twice, I know that you stated Trump is imperfect. Like I said to CIM, that was never my claim and not the point at all. The point was about putting too much trust in mere mortals, giving them too much regard.

But since you brought it up, after you acknowledged that he had flaws and led a sinful life in his younger years, you then said that he has changed. Here are your words. (I added the bold)

"But in recent years and during his first term, there was ample evidence he had turned the corner. His selfless leadership exhibited that change. St Paul, we recall, was a dreadful sinner early in his life. He completely transformed and became among the greatest saints ever."​

So clearly you are putting your trust in someone that you think has changed, and you mentioned St. Paul. Paul is known for having a "road to Damascus" life-changing moment... are you claiming that Trump too is now a born again Christian? That was not at all what I was talking about before, but since you brought it up, I'm curious to know if you think Trump is a regenerated, born again believer.