The Trump Conundrum

you know, i disagree with him on almost everything. but i have to respect that he at least seems to care from a moral level about the person who leads the country.

he isn't analyzing trump's policy because trump has no policies.

that said. i still disagree with the o/p but respect his concerns.
Actually, Trump does have clear policies....and they scare the hell out of you fascist democrats.....
not really doesn't scare the crap out of me ... what it does do in case you're interestted it scares the crap out of the independent voter whose trying t see who they want to vote for ... it seems be be more on the hillary side then it does of the side for Trump ...
Trump is carrying independents....
well you keep believing that while Hillary keeps going up in the polls day by day cause thats all ya got ...Fantasy !!!
Trump closed in and without Hillary getting negative ads or bad press and she got a bump after their convention. Which was what, ages ago to you?

Trump pulled ahead and the MSM went to defcon 5 and did their job very well.
 
Actually, Trump does have clear policies....and they scare the hell out of you fascist democrats.....
not really doesn't scare the crap out of me ... what it does do in case you're interestted it scares the crap out of the independent voter whose trying t see who they want to vote for ... it seems be be more on the hillary side then it does of the side for Trump ...
Trump is carrying independents....
well you keep believing that while Hillary keeps going up in the polls day by day cause thats all ya got ...Fantasy !!!
Trump closed in and without Hillary getting negative ads or bad press and she got a bump after their convention. Which was what, ages ago to you?
looks like you didn't see the polling yesterday hillary 50% and trump 39% read it a weep ....it was in all the news cast and papers yesterday ... so don't star crying, ok ya can
You're a fool. Hillary it up 4.5 on average after her convention bump. And like I said she hasn't been hit with the ads yet, so ...

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
 
No... the Conservative media didn't cause this. If you want to blame the feckless establishment GOP leadership who repeatedly capitulated to Obama and ignored the voice of the people who gave them the House and Senate... that's a more accurate assessment. The Conservatives TRIED to make a stand and they were castigated and smeared by the likes of Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

They fielded several candidates... Cruz, Paul, Walker and Carson, who stood for strong Conservative values and principles but ended up splitting the Conservative vote, while Trump appealed to this new "populist" movement by being brash and politically incorrect. He won with less than a majority of the GOP vote and he's the candidate representing the GOP now.

Now that's all fine and well, but traditionally, the nominee will at least make some gesture or attempt to unify the party... to bring in the various assorted factions to focus on a universal objective which is to defeat Hillary Clinton. But instead of doing this, Trump seems intent on alienating those voters in every way possible. He seems to want to thumb his nose at unification and pretend that his minority of populist support is a unified party who can defeat Clinton. The numbers just aren't there. He cannot win without the support of the rest of the party... he sure as hell can't win by smearing and insulting the hell out of them and on the sole point of not being Hillary Clinton.
hey republicans eat their own whats new... hillary hasn't to really try and do anything she just repeats what he said and trump losses it ... not a person i would want with the nuke codes at his beck and call ...

You would rather have a person who blamed telling the Bosnia lie for over a year on sleep deprivation? Man that kind of thinking is really scary.

I may be wrong but I don't believe one man can pick up the phone and launch a nuclear war. Even on the submarines that launch the missiles one man does not have the ability to launch missiles. I don't want any ONE person having such power.
she was wrong about bosnia ..we get it ...but it did happen the fact that she said bosnia you lap on to that like the lap dog you are she never lied she misspoke about bosnia

"Misspoke" is a relatively newly coined word that means "lied."
it happens... what can I say ... if its a lie in your opinion when a democrat does it and its accepted when a republican doe it, it doesn't really say much for your opinion now does it
I'm very much aware of lies, promises, backdoor deals, etc., etc. etc. on BOTH sides of the aisle.
 
Actually, Trump does have clear policies....and they scare the hell out of you fascist democrats.....
not really doesn't scare the crap out of me ... what it does do in case you're interestted it scares the crap out of the independent voter whose trying t see who they want to vote for ... it seems be be more on the hillary side then it does of the side for Trump ...
Trump is carrying independents....
well you keep believing that while Hillary keeps going up in the polls day by day cause thats all ya got ...Fantasy !!!
Trump closed in and without Hillary getting negative ads or bad press and she got a bump after their convention. Which was what, ages ago to you?
looks like you didn't see the polling yesterday hillary 50% and trump 39% read it a weep ....it was in all the news cast and papers yesterday ... so don't star crying, ok ya can

Not sure where you get your polls;

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Latest Polls

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not really doesn't scare the crap out of me ... what it does do in case you're interestted it scares the crap out of the independent voter whose trying t see who they want to vote for ... it seems be be more on the hillary side then it does of the side for Trump ...
Trump is carrying independents....
well you keep believing that while Hillary keeps going up in the polls day by day cause thats all ya got ...Fantasy !!!
Trump closed in and without Hillary getting negative ads or bad press and she got a bump after their convention. Which was what, ages ago to you?
looks like you didn't see the polling yesterday hillary 50% and trump 39% read it a weep ....it was in all the news cast and papers yesterday ... so don't star crying, ok ya can
You're a fool. Hillary it up 4.5 on average after her convention bump. And like I said she hasn't been hit with the ads yet, so ...

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

If I were the Trump campaign I would loop the 3 AM ad together with crooked Hillary claiming her Bosnia LIE was because of sleep deprivation. I can't wait until Trump really starts fighting back.
 
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I can't wait until Trump really starts fighting back.

Any ideas on when that might be? So far it's been... attack Ted Cruz, his wife and father, smear them around for a few days and tell his supporters to go fuck themselves he doesn't need or want their support... then he had to attack the Gold Star Muslim dad... appeal to a few Bernie supporters... promise to increase the minimum wage and tax the rich... I guess maybe next week, if he doesn't find another core constituency to attack? :dunno:

Yeah, I think I'd like to see him maybe focus on attacking Hillary Clinton a little... I mean, after all, that's who he's running against. Seems like she would be the logical target. But, what do I know, I'm a "loser" Cruz supporter!
 
hey republicans eat their own whats new... hillary hasn't to really try and do anything she just repeats what he said and trump losses it ... not a person i would want with the nuke codes at his beck and call ...

You would rather have a person who blamed telling the Bosnia lie for over a year on sleep deprivation? Man that kind of thinking is really scary.

I may be wrong but I don't believe one man can pick up the phone and launch a nuclear war. Even on the submarines that launch the missiles one man does not have the ability to launch missiles. I don't want any ONE person having such power.
she was wrong about bosnia ..we get it ...but it did happen the fact that she said bosnia you lap on to that like the lap dog you are she never lied she misspoke about bosnia

"Misspoke" is a relatively newly coined word that means "lied."
it happens... what can I say ... if its a lie in your opinion when a democrat does it and its accepted when a republican doe it, it doesn't really say much for your opinion now does it
I'm very much aware of lies, promises, backdoor deals, etc., etc. etc. on BOTH sides of the aisle.

And both sides of the establishment aisle hates Trump, so what should that tell us?
 
I can't wait until Trump really starts fighting back.

Any ideas on when that might be? So far it's been... attack Ted Cruz, his wife and father, smear them around for a few days and tell his supporters to go fuck themselves he doesn't need or want their support... then he had to attack the Gold Star Muslim dad... appeal to a few Bernie supporters... promise to increase the minimum wage and tax the rich... I guess maybe next week, if he doesn't find another core constituency to attack? :dunno:

Yeah, I think I'd like to see him maybe focus on attacking Hillary Clinton a little... I mean, after all, that's who he's running against. Seems like she would be the logical target. But, what do I know, I'm a "loser" Cruz supporter!

Here is what I think. Corporate America, the Clinton Foundation and foreign interests have flooded Clinton's bank account. Since Trump is hated by the establishment, corporate America and a lot of foreign doners he doesn't have the cash to start too early. Besides starting early means that Clinton can then put it behind her. Much like the FBI doing her a favor with the email investigation.

When people find out the whole thing about Trump making fun of a disabled person was nothing but made up lies then the tide will start turning. There is a whole tidal wave of dirt to wash over Clinton, don't want it to happen too soon.

As for Cruz, he made a promise and didn't keep it.
 
Whether people admit it or not neither party has the candidate they would prefer to have.

Trump is a thin-skinned millionaire businessman who can not help but react to every comment / criticism aimed his way, providing the Democrats with the perfect ability to repeatedly trap him...and exposing not the preferred demeanor of a would-be President. Then again, America has had to deal with a narcissistic President that makes everything about himself for the last 8 years. Also, even though inexperienced in many areas, our Founding Fathers were not 'career politicians' either.

Hillary is a scandal-plagued, self-serving, Washington Establishment career politician who is an incurable pathological liar who can not STOP lying, as proven by her latest fact-checked interview on Fox News that appropriately earned her '4 Pinocchios'. The latest poll shows that 68% of all Americans - nearly 7 out of every 10 - believe, appropriately, she is truly UN-trustworthy.

For all Trump's faults several issues still lead me towards picking him as the 'lesser of 2 evils':

1. Hillary's constant lying, as late as this past weekend, less than 90 days out from the election. I am so tired of these corrupt career politicians lying to our faces, arrogantly thinking we are too stupid to know better. 4 Pinocchios, dear...lying about testimony under oath, claiming to be more trustworthy that the Director of the FBI and being PROVEN horribly false / wrong. If you are still lying this much less than 100 days out, as you have your whole life, you are not going to stop once in office.

2. Hillary recently stated that Americans have no Constitutional Right that the Federal Govt can't limit or eliminate. She did not necessarily / specifically mean through the proper process outlined / created within the Constitution - Amending the Constitution. No, she meant individuals within the Federal Government doing so on their own. Even the Supreme Court can not legally legislate from the bench, stripping Constitutional Rights without the Constitution being Amended.

Democrats, however, Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama for example, have demonstrated a complete lack of respect for the Constitution and our Constitutional Rights.

Foe example: IMMEDIATELY as Benghazi was under attack Hillary and Obama began blaming a video and the film maker for the attack, as if to justify the terrorist attack that resulted in the death of 4 Americans. Instead of attacking the terrorists both Hillary and Obama began apologizing / blaming our Constitution / Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speech. Instead of DEFENDING the Constitution and Freedom of Speech Hillary and Obama attacked it in front of the world and VOWED TO ARREST THE FILM-MAKER INSTEAD OF VOWING TO BRING THE TERRORISTS WHO HAD JUST KILLED 4 AMERICANS TO JUSTICE. WTF?!

ANOTHER example: After the terrorist Obama had given a Visa to came into the country and murdered 12 Americans in a terrorist attack Obama sent his AG Lynch out to THREATEN AMERICANS should they choose to exercise their freedom of speech by talking negatively about Islamic Extremists like this obvious terrorist! Again, WTF?!

ANOTHER Example: When Obama spoke to the world while giving a speech before the UN about a month after Benghazi, Obama again pushed the lie about a video, and instead of vowing to bring the terrorists to justice he APOLOGIZED to the Islamic Extremists, almost justifying the attack again based on the false premise that an American citizen exercising his right of Freedom of Speech was to blame:

"The Future should not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam'.

How about 'The future should not belong to Islamic Extremists and Terrorists, especially those who kill American citizens...and we promise such terrorists will have no future' ?!


For ME, in the end...


I am more fearful / concerned about an experienced self-serving, Washington Establishment career politician with such power who has no respect for our Constitution and our Constitutional Rights, who so quickly abandons it and throws it under the bus in front of the whole world, who is willing to jail citizens for exercising their Constitutional Rights in order to appease Terrorists...than I am of a thin-skinned, inexperienced businessman!
 
Like I said republicans are coming out of the wood work to vote against trumped day in and day out another republicans comes to their senses ...

GOP Rep. Says He'll Vote For Clinton: Trump Is A 'National Embarrassment'

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Rep. Richard Hanna (R-NY) on Tuesday became the first Republican member of the House to openly say that he plans to vote for Hillary Clinton in November.

Hanna, who is not running for re-election this year, told Syracuse.com in an interview published Tuesday that Donald Trump is "unfit to serve our party and cannot lead this country."

"I think Trump is a national embarrassment. Is he really the guy you want to have the nuclear codes?" he asked.

The congressman said that he's considered voting for Clinton for a few months, and that Trump's attacks the parents of a deceased Muslim American soldier were the last straw.

"I saw that and felt incensed," Hanna told Syracuse.com. "I was stunned by the callousness of his comments."

Hanna also wrote an op-ed on Syracuse.com spelling out why he cannot support Trump and will instead vote for Hillary Clinton.

"Secretary Clinton has issues that depending on where one stands can be viewed as great or small. But she stands and has stood for causes bigger than herself for a lifetime. That matters," he wrote. "Mrs. Clinton has promoted many of the issues I have been committed to over the years including expanding education and supporting women's health care."

"While I disagree with her on many issues, I will vote for Mrs. Clinton. I will be hopeful and resolute in my belief that being a good American who loves his country is far more important than parties or winning and losing," he added.

Hanna has already said that he will not back Trump, and he often bucks his party — he supports same-sex marriage and rejects certain limitations on abortion.

In April, he said that the GOP "is not capable of nominating anyone who is electable nationally," lamenting the "extreme" members of the Republican party.

This article was written by Caitlin MacNeal from Talking Points Memo and was legally licensed through the NewsCred publisher network.
 
A long post without one word about what either candidate will do about the important issues the US faces. Why bother to vote at all if you have no interest in what the candidates will do about the important issues?

Well you're right but neither candidate is talking about important issues. Hillary is pandering to special interests and saying Trump is unqualified to be president and Trump is swatting at Conservatives and Gold Star dads. No one is talking about reducing the national debt or what we're going to do about Social Security.
apparently you haven't listen to hillary speeches because of your hatred of everything hillaryr ... look on her web site if you don't want to listen to her ... read any of her speaches they are all there not only does she go after trump and his statements she also has given out her plan on how to reduce the countries debt... its your one sidedness here that is clouding your ability to see who is saying what...
Exactly.

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Trump's supporters have been conned that it's good he's destroying a major American political party.

Talk Radio and conservative internet made this mess, and we'll see if they have to answer for it.
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They are actively contributing to this mess.

I've listened to hosts that were anti-Trump, criticizing him at every turn, up until the primaries. Now they are defending him at every turn.

2 that comes to mind are John Gibson and Tom Sullivan.

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Trump's supporters have been conned that it's good he's destroying a major American political party.

Talk Radio and conservative internet made this mess, and we'll see if they have to answer for it.
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Unlikely. Five minutes after he loses, Rush Limbaugh will get on the air and announce that this was a defeat of a candidate, not conservatism.

Because that is exactly what he said in 2012, 2008, 2006 1996 and 1992.

as much of a disaster as Trump is, the fact is, the GOP was going to always get about 45% of the vote no matter who they ran.

In 2018, Democrats will take a thrubbing in the mid-terms and the same voices will proclaim vindication.
I don't believe that Rush is a Trump supporter, he's simply towing the line because that's where the base is at.

Once Trump loses, he'll gladly bash the candidate...and mean it.

Watch...

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Great Goose ... I do believe it's a 4 year term ... unless re-elected.

Nevertheless, I'm in it for Trump. Yes, he's running a less-than-usual campaign - loud, brash, provocative - certainly not a "3 piece suit" sort of campaign. I'll confess I didn't read the OPs long post word for word ... but I do have a few remarks. As to Megyn Kelly - she got what she deserved. She threw out her hardcore feminist jab with great deliberation - a side of her that I had never seen in the past. Trump gave her back as good as she gave out. And then she immediately chopped off her hair most unattractively into a masculine looking mess ... I pretty much quit watching Fox News because of her. I've recently started watching again on a "hit or miss" basis. In fact, Greta had a wonderful interview with Ivanka Trump last night - and after that I flipped to another channel.

We've certainly seen what 8 years of Obama has given us. If you've read any book at all BY him or about him, you have to know that he has no love for this country and has lived his entire life under the influence of communism and Muslim teachings ... and that's where his sympathies lie. If you've read anything at all about either of the Clintons or about Hillary specifically you would know their history and what we'd be headed for if she's elected to what would amount to a 3rd presidential term ... remember we were getting "two for the price of one" when Bill Clinton ran for the office?

Do we know what we're getting if Trump is elected? No. Not really - but I'd far rather take my chances with an unknown Trump than a known Hillary. Think about this: there's probably a pretty good chance that Trump has not gone into business deals all these years with the kind of bravado he's now showing or nobody would deal with him ... and I'm certain given his financial/business/social position there is what I like to call "a tuxedo side" of Trump.

Here's the thing - for the first time in decades ... someone has stood up and spoken for the voices of people who are never heard in Congress and we, too, regardless how poor, are citizens of this country. Regardless of party affiliation or country - politics is about power, money, prestige, and personal gain.
I didn't read your long post word for word but let me comment. Maybe megyn cut her hair to make herself less attractive to fox executives.

You should be ashamed of yourself.
Is the belief that a woman with short hair is less attractive than a woman with long hair the standard?

If so, why?

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Trump's supporters have been conned that it's good he's destroying a major American political party.

Talk Radio and conservative internet made this mess, and we'll see if they have to answer for it.
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Unlikely. Five minutes after he loses, Rush Limbaugh will get on the air and announce that this was a defeat of a candidate, not conservatism.

Because that is exactly what he said in 2012, 2008, 2006 1996 and 1992.

as much of a disaster as Trump is, the fact is, the GOP was going to always get about 45% of the vote no matter who they ran.

In 2018, Democrats will take a thrubbing in the mid-terms and the same voices will proclaim vindication.
I don't believe that Rush is a Trump supporter, he's simply towing the line because that's where the base is at.

Once Trump loses, he'll gladly bash the candidate...and mean it.

Watch...

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He'll lead the charge saying that they didn't run a real conservative.
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Many of us are faced with a very vexing conundrum this election season. We seem to find ourselves with no suitable choices for the presidency of the United States. What's worse, the closer we get to November, the more our choices seem to be completely unacceptable. In the past, perhaps we've had to hold our proverbial noses and vote for the lesser of two evils but what do you do when the evils are equally bad?

I am a conservative who supported Ted Cruz. However, I never dismissed the possibility of voting for Donald Trump, should he prevail in winning the nomination. In fact, I vociferously defended some of his earlier statements regarding illegals being mostly criminals and Mexico paying for the wall. I even defended his remarks about McCain's war hero status insulating him from criticism over policy. My sentiments for Trump began to change after his attacks on Megyn Kelly, which I also dismissed as trivial nonsense. Trump began to attack people who hadn't really attacked him. First, it was Carly Fiorina with comments about her looks. Then it was Ben Carson with comments likening him to a child molester. He went on to attack Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. Not just attacks on policy but personal attacks, sleazy and lowdown gutter-level stuff.

Okay... So it's a political campaign and he's trying to win the nomination. The Democrats are going to be sleazy and nasty, so... maybe it's okay for Trump to run such a strategy in the primaries and maybe it's fair to say the candidates who couldn't withstand such attacks didn't deserve the win? I can live with that. I can find a way to dismiss all the smearing and sleazy underhanded lies and distortions because this is a rough game and maybe we need someone who can play it well like Trump? Rolling into the convention, I was willing to forgive all the crap he threw at Cruz for the sake of unifying the party so we could defeat Hillary Clinton. I think a lot of you were ready to do the same. Then came the set up of Cruz and the post-convention speech.

For the next several days, the bashing and smearing of Ted Cruz from the primaries was revived and Trump along with his supporters seemed to take great joy in trashing and bashing Cruz one more time. And this persisted until Trump turned his attention to bashing and trashing a Gold Star father who spoke at the Democratic Convention. So now, we've spent the last several days on that. Any bounce Trump may have gotten from his convention is gone. Hillary is back on top in all the polls and with the negative press Trump is now getting, look for her numbers to go up even more in the coming days. His supporters, undaunted, continue to try and explain, justify and turn the worm on the Gold Star father... completely oblivious to Hillary who is running away with the election.

The Hill reports that a recent poll conducted of the military vote, shows Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate leading both Trump and Clinton. This is shocking because the GOP historically wins this vote by a huge majority. Key Republican congressmen are now coming out in support of Hillary Clinton. Other Republicans are reluctant to endorse Trump or be seen campaigning with him. He continues to completely alienate the Conservative base and try to appeal to the Bernie Sanders voters. There is turmoil within his campaign staff... people abandoning ship left and right. And we all wait for the next bombastic and inflammatory comment to come spewing out of Trump's uncontrollable mouth.

What are we to do? It's a real conundrum for some of us. We can't vote for Hillary Clinton... but how the hell can we vote for someone like Donald Trump? This election should be a cakewalk for virtually ANY competent or half-way-competent republican. Instead, we seem to be stuck with someone who doesn't even seem to like most republicans and certainly doesn't seem to stand for very many conservative principles. He continues to pander to the left, change his positions from what he ran on in the primaries, and attack with viciousness, anyone who dares to disagree with him in any way. This is a mess and there are no signs that things are improving. His small and dwindling base of support seems content to continue defending his outrageous comments and bombastic remarks, they don't want to try and hold him accountable or pull him back. As awkward as it may be, they are out there jumping to his defense. Two weeks removed from the convention and still not focused on Hillary Clinton.

I've got news for you people, you're not helping Donald Trump. You're sure as hell not helping defeat Hillary Clinton. If this continues, perhaps you morons deserve to have Trump burn your party to the ground. It's just a shame that this nation is unfortunately going to have to endure another 8 years of progressive liberalism.. aka:Marxist Socialism at the hands of the most corrupt and crooked politician in history. I honestly don't know if we can survive that, but it's becoming more and more inevitable every day. Trump and his supporters simply don't act like they want to win this election.
Boss, you want to know who is responsible for the present debacle at the top of the GOP ticket? Look in the mirror. You dismissed, you ignored, 'maybe it's ok', you let it pass. And you got what you deserved. Had you demanded that Trump take back to demagoguery, the lies, and the cruel and despicable personal attacks, you might have prevented him from getting the nomination. Instead, you made excuses for him. You enabled him, and now you are whining because he is exactly what he was when you defended him.

Your problem after the inevitable defeat in November is where do you want the GOP to go, and what do you want it to be. For it cannot be what it has been the last 20 years. We now can clearly see where that has led. It is your problem, not mine.
*One man standing ovation*

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Bullshit. He didn't "attack" the damn muslim, he responded TO an attack. I'm sure you would prefer he say nothing to defend himself.
Point 2, he hasn't spent the past two weeks attacking Cruz. If he has, post it.

Well... YES, he DID. His knee-jerk reaction to any criticism is to attack. Not only did he attack the man, his sycophants have spent the last several days attacking the man in various editorials and on social media with stories about what he does for a living, his background, etc. Trump didn't have to defend himself... that was pointless. Did he accomplish anything? Did he win over any new voters? NO! If anything, he alienated some more. He HAS to stop this if he expects to win.

And as for Cruz, my OP plainly says... he only stopped attacking Cruz to launch into an attack of the Muslim Gold Star father. I mean, what's going to get him to move on from that? Does he need a female Hispanic police officer to attack next? Maybe a pro-life black woman? :dunno:

When is going to stop sucking the asses of Bernie supporters and go after Hillary Clinton? I kind of think that might be crucial for him to win.

Look... goofball... I don't know if you just fell of a turnip truck but let me explain to you how politics work for the GOP nominee for president... Rule No. 1: The media is not your friend! All of this air time they gave Trump to explain himself during the primaries in order to wipe out the field... that's over... that's not going to happen anymore. The media is in the tank for Hillary... they are not going to let this kind of thing go and they will relentlessly attack Trump and keep him on the defensive... he HAS to learn to move on. He HAS to change his strategy now. He cannot afford to get bogged down in one controversy after another and constantly be on the defensive. If THAT is going to be his strategy, he will lose. Guaranteed.
Trump will not lose. He will win HUGE - no matter how much you will him to lose.

Well... okay, you guys go right ahead and slap each other on the back and arrogantly proclaim victory... you're going to get your asses stomped if this shit doesn't change... I promise you that! It's not even going to be close. When that happens, all of your bullshit excuses about how Trump was railroaded... the system is rigged... everybody was against him... the whiny babies didn't support him.... NONE of that is going to be any consolation to us when we wake up the day after the election to President-elect Hillary Clinton!
seems you're a bit one sided ... lets look at what democrats presidents have done for the country ... Bill Clinton past a tax increase ... we were told by the republican party that will put us deeper into debt ... that will cause the market to crash ... that didn't happen we ended up with a surplus under democratic rule ... here we have Obama he passed and signed for loan to the banking community and the car companies ... we were told by the right left them fail ... this loan will break the country ... as we all with a brain know that too didn't happen ... Obama got a bill passed to help the people in his first year in office the republicans refuse to give us what we need because they know that would have pulled us out of a spiraling economy we were having ...so we were forced by the republicans too do it slowly .... either way we Dems once again pulled us out a big fucking mess that you republicans caused ... now you want to elect a maniac like trump into the white house ... whose plane will cause 31 trillion dollars of debt and Hillarys won't ... you really want us to believe you that trump is the better deal cause of your hatred of Hillary???

Look goofball.. Hillary Clinton will be an unmitigated DISASTER for America. Her presidency will be WORSE than Obama's and that was pretty bad. She has NOTHING to offer in terms of policy or competence that I want leading this country. NOTHING.

She is arguably the worst, most corrupt and crooked person to ever seek the office of president. She is equally as unqualified as Obama. It's stunning and jaw-dropping that her corrupt ass is even running. She should be in prison for what she has gotten away with. She may very well end up there before it's all said and done because there is still a lot of stuff yet to come out on her.

Of ALL the things in this world, the LAST thing that I want to happen is for her to win this election.... but that means Trump has to win. Now..... I can sit here with the pom-pom wavers and smear and jeer everyone who dares to raise questions about his strategy or what he's saying.... but I don't think that is helpful in winning the general election. I think that's a guaranteed loss. As much as I differ with him on policy and some of the asinine shit he's throwing out there... I still want him to defeat Hillary Clinton.

So I can sit back and wave the pom-poms and wait for the day after he loses to Hillary and come here whining about how the system was rigged and everybody ganged up on him and people didn't back him... and deal with 4-8 years of President Hildabeast... OR... I can voice my opinion on how he can turn this thing around and WIN the damn election. I'm making an effort to penetrate the hard-heads who are supporting Trump... you best be getting this guy back on track and stop attacking the wrong target. If you can't bring yourselves to do that, the game is over... Hillary WILL win.
No she won't. No way in hell.
 

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