The Troops are concerned about gays serving openly.

[Spoonman]

Didn't seem to work much when I was in....in fact, it would have been the equivalent of admitting I was gay to not be interested in their stories of sexual conquests....and that would have brought me to being discharged.

ok, so now i get it. you're gay

Even if I hadn't been gay, by expressing displeasure over hearing their sexual conquests, I would have been accused of being gay....which would, depending on the command, have resulted in being investigated.

I nailed this really hot chick last night

 

[bodecea]

They are treated exactly the same, they are subject to the same rules. And you have yet to answer the question why for someone to go fight for their country it's necessary for them to tell people they put their pecker in butt holes. When you can answer that question, we'll start going somewhere.

That is YOUR imagery.

What would happen is some male sailor/soldier simply saying something like..."My boyfriend and I went to the beach this weekend." or having a picture of his male spouse on his desk. That's considered "telling". That results in a discharge.

mmmmm I don't want to see that or hear that.

Do you say the same if some male sailor/soldier simply says something like..."My girlfriend and I went to the beach this weekend." or having a picture of his female spouse on his desk?

 

[ABikerSailor]

ok, so now i get it. you're gay

Even if I hadn't been gay, by expressing displeasure over hearing their sexual conquests, I would have been accused of being gay....which would, depending on the command, have resulted in being investigated.

I nailed this really hot chick last night

Nailed a really hot chick last night? How much did you have to pay her?

 

[bodecea]

ok, so now i get it. you're gay

Even if I hadn't been gay, by expressing displeasure over hearing their sexual conquests, I would have been accused of being gay....which would, depending on the command, have resulted in being investigated.

I nailed this really hot chick last night

You're female, aren't you?

 

[Spoonman]

Well, this is America....they have to be treated equally under the law. Didn't you know that?

well lets see, when it comes ot christians and athiests, is there equal treatment? Christians want the ability to pray in school. Athiests want no prayer in school. under the law, there is no prayer in school. is that an equal ruling? but that's the law and that's what is currently accepted as the fair solution.

Christians have the right to pray in school all they want. No one has ever stopped that. You , unfortunately, have been misled in that regard.

sorry dude, the football team at our local highschool was forced to stop saying prayers at the beginning of the game. guess what. no one on the team complained. some douchebag who didn't even have a kid in school did. yet they were shut down. that's a reality. now how did that take away from teaching time? how did that infringe on anyones rights? they did it by choice and no one complained who was involved

 

[kaz]

And how was sarcasm indicated at all?

Seriously? I called you Nancy to call you a sensitive girl about political correctness. You seriously need that explained to you, Nancy?

You didn't answer the question, Nancy. Is not using the f-word for gay man simply being respectful or being "PC"?

Actually I have answered the question. First with sarcasm, then when you didn't get it I told you that words to me are in themselves neither PC or non PC. Nor is not using it. I don't know what PC even means other then it's an excuse for liberals to express hypocritical and pompous indignation and score cheap political points.

Want a tissue?

 

[Mr Natural]

well lets see, when it comes ot christians and athiests, is there equal treatment? Christians want the ability to pray in school. Athiests want no prayer in school. under the law, there is no prayer in school. is that an equal ruling? but that's the law and that's what is currently accepted as the fair solution.

But prayer takes up valuable school time that could otherwise be used for teaching.

Teaching what? That man developed from some unknown missing link? or other unproven theories that are sold in as truths?

Yeah, that's right. Real world stuff like science, math, history, not make believe.

 

[Spoonman]

Even if I hadn't been gay, by expressing displeasure over hearing their sexual conquests, I would have been accused of being gay....which would, depending on the command, have resulted in being investigated.

I nailed this really hot chick last night

You're female, aren't you?

yes, but i'm butch. thus the name spoonMAN

 

[slukasiewski]

Well, this is America....they have to be treated equally under the law. Didn't you know that?

well lets see, when it comes ot christians and athiests, is there equal treatment? Christians want the ability to pray in school. Athiests want no prayer in school. under the law, there is no prayer in school. is that an equal ruling? but that's the law and that's what is currently accepted as the fair solution.

But prayer takes up valuable school time that could otherwise be used for teaching.

Teaching what in public schools?

Liberalism?

No thanks,

Private school - worth every penny

 

[kaz]

well lets see, when it comes ot christians and athiests, is there equal treatment? Christians want the ability to pray in school. Athiests want no prayer in school. under the law, there is no prayer in school. is that an equal ruling? but that's the law and that's what is currently accepted as the fair solution.

Christians have the right to pray in school all they want. No one has ever stopped that. You , unfortunately, have been misled in that regard.

sorry dude, the football team at our local highschool was forced to stop saying prayers at the beginning of the game. guess what. no one on the team complained. some douchebag who didn't even have a kid in school did. yet they were shut down. that's a reality. now how did that take away from teaching time? how did that infringe on anyones rights? they did it by choice and no one complained who was involved

Now if you wanted to pray to Allah or have a there is no God rally then that would have been just fine...

 

[Spoonman]

But prayer takes up valuable school time that could otherwise be used for teaching.

Teaching what? That man developed from some unknown missing link? or other unproven theories that are sold in as truths?

Yeah, that's right. Real world stuff like science, math, history, not make believe.

ever listen to history as repeated by a liberal? it doesn't get any more make believe than that

 

[slukasiewski]

Teaching what? That man developed from some unknown missing link? or other unproven theories that are sold in as truths?

Yeah, that's right. Real world stuff like science, math, history, not make believe.

ever listen to history as repeated by a liberal? it doesn't get any more make believe than that

Amen to that.............

 

[Seawytch]

Take your personal emotion out of it. Give us a reason why the military should change it's policy. what is the benefit to them. Your logic is like saying coke should stop marketing in red cans because red is a color of anger and it upsets some people

In a nutshell, they should change their policy because it is the right thing to do. Just like integration of the forces

Still waiting for the military benefit Coke should take the sugar and caffiene out of their product because it's the right thing to do too. Let's get real here ok?

Okay...how about the cost of discharging perfectly qualified individual simply for the consenting adult they have relations with? It cost the military over $50,000 for each individual kicked out under the policy. According to the same GAO report that gave us that figure, 39% of the people discharged were in critical occupations such as infantryman and security forces (not to mention all those ARABIC translators that got kicked out).

 

[kaz]

ok, so now i get it. you're gay

Even if I hadn't been gay, by expressing displeasure over hearing their sexual conquests, I would have been accused of being gay....which would, depending on the command, have resulted in being investigated.

I nailed this really hot chick last night

Me too, I like a good vagina and pair of these... And I can even say that if I were in the military, how cool is that?

 

[bodecea]

I nailed this really hot chick last night

You're female, aren't you?

yes, but i'm butch. thus the name spoonMAN

That's ok....with DADT gone away, you don't have to resort to subtrafuge anymore.

 

[Seawytch]

I spent 8 years in the Marines. Their focus was never my sexual orientation. Their focus is one thing - making sure everyone understands what the expectations of them are. You are trained for a purpose, and that isn't social chit chat. You are securing a beachhead, no one is chit chatting about doing their partner.

So you had no idea which of your shipmates was married or had children? No idea what so ever?

 

[slukasiewski]

The first thing to examine when looking at a ****** is integrity.

LIED on an military service application to sneak in to serve with normal people.

Enough said?

 

[bodecea]

Even if I hadn't been gay, by expressing displeasure over hearing their sexual conquests, I would have been accused of being gay....which would, depending on the command, have resulted in being investigated.

I nailed this really hot chick last night

Me too, I like a good vagina and pair of these... And I can even say that if I were in the military, how cool is that?

Under DADT, if you were male you could say that all you want. If you were female, it would get you discharged.

Of course, under DADT, some males saying that were just covering. Now they don't have to....which makes me wonder how much of that macho talk will melt away now that the gay soldier/sailors don't have to try to out-macho everyone else for cover.

 

[slukasiewski]

In a nutshell, they should change their policy because it is the right thing to do. Just like integration of the forces

Still waiting for the military benefit Coke should take the sugar and caffiene out of their product because it's the right thing to do too. Let's get real here ok?

Okay...how about the cost of discharging perfectly qualified individual simply for the consenting adult they have relations with? It cost the military over $50,000 for each individual kicked out under the policy. According to the same GAO report that gave us that figure, 39% of the people discharged were in critical occupations such as infantryman and security forces (not to mention all those ARABIC translators that got kicked out).

$50K is chump change in the government.
Worth every penny to drum out homos...

 

[kaz]

In a nutshell, they should change their policy because it is the right thing to do. Just like integration of the forces

Still waiting for the military benefit Coke should take the sugar and caffiene out of their product because it's the right thing to do too. Let's get real here ok?

Okay...how about the cost of discharging perfectly qualified individual simply for the consenting adult they have relations with? It cost the military over $50,000 for each individual kicked out under the policy. According to the same GAO report that gave us that figure, 39% of the people discharged were in critical occupations such as infantryman and security forces (not to mention all those ARABIC translators that got kicked out).

If they aren't bright enough to not mention the guy they drilled last night then they probably weren't going to stand up to the Taliban very well either, so it probably was a good thing. BTW, the Taliban don't want to hear about the guy they drilled last night either...