CDZ The Surprising Psychology of January 6

[occupied]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

Trump was a lousy racist. He wanted charter schools for inner city Black kids. He set up Opportunity Zones to benefit Black neighborhoods. They also saw their wages rise significantly before the Scamdemic.

Trump's most devoted followers are the haters. They saw something there they really liked.

Big time projection. Do they scream for dead cops? Do they burn cities and loot? You are with the haters. There is no doubt about it.

There was no a political cost to condemning violence when BLM protests got out of hand. No one turned on anyone for saying that violence was not to be tolerated and looters should be jailed. Meanwhile republicans have had to walk back any criticism they ever had for the insurrectionists and join in the revisionism that holds Trump and his followers blameless for 1/6.

The Feds dropped the charges on most and have Trump supporters in solitary confinement for trespassing. You people are fascists.

You cannot bring yourself to say anything against the so called patriots that desecrated the capital over a mere lost election. Your tacit approval of political violence is hardly unexpected. It tracks with the frantic whitewashing that has been a constant chore to make Trump's presidency something other than an eternal embarrassment for our country.

 

[Lastamender]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

Trump was a lousy racist. He wanted charter schools for inner city Black kids. He set up Opportunity Zones to benefit Black neighborhoods. They also saw their wages rise significantly before the Scamdemic.

Trump's most devoted followers are the haters. They saw something there they really liked.

Big time projection. Do they scream for dead cops? Do they burn cities and loot? You are with the haters. There is no doubt about it.

There was no a political cost to condemning violence when BLM protests got out of hand. No one turned on anyone for saying that violence was not to be tolerated and looters should be jailed. Meanwhile republicans have had to walk back any criticism they ever had for the insurrectionists and join in the revisionism that holds Trump and his followers blameless for 1/6.

The Feds dropped the charges on most and have Trump supporters in solitary confinement for trespassing. You people are fascists.

You cannot bring yourself to say anything against the so called patriots that desecrated the capital over a mere lost election. Your tacit approval of political violence is hardly unexpected. It tracks with the frantic whitewashing that has been a constant chore to make Trump's presidency something other than an eternal embarrassment for our country.

A mere election loss? Those people were there to get Congress to investigate fraud. Jim Jordan told the Congress that day 40% of the voters had viable questions about election integrity. The corrupt Congress was given the chance and said no. That never should have happened. The obvious guilt showed right through it. And the disturbance was not an insurrection it is a fantasy propped up with propaganda, hate and more division.

 

[Leo123]

You cannot bring yourself to say anything against the so called patriots that desecrated the capital over a mere lost election. Your tacit approval of political violence is hardly unexpected. It tracks with the frantic whitewashing that has been a constant chore to make Trump's presidency something other than an eternal embarrassment for our country.

Gee and all this time we thought Washington belonged to The People!!! Apparently Marxists like you think we don't belong there. Remember the Capitol police shot and killed an unarmed woman. We still don't have that cop's name. So, you can take your little fantasy story and shove it up your fascist ass. D.C. is still withholding the thousands of hours of video surveillance shot on Jan 6th. Let's see it all and make up our own minds instead of being told what they want us to think. You are such a Leftist-Marxist Democrat tool. BTW numb-nuts, it's spelled CAPITOL.

 

[dblack]

Anybody else notice the time and energy TDSers are putting into creating a false reality about Jan 6? My, my, such convoluted lies in order to conjure up a fairytale.

I'm a proud TDSer. But I don't think Jan 6 was an "insurrection". It was a riot.

I do think Trump is guilty of inciting a riot that resulted in people getting killed and federal property being destroyed. He should be in jail for that. But if it was an "insurrection", it was very poorly planned and had no hope of success.

 

[Leo123]

Anybody else notice the time and energy TDSers are putting into creating a false reality about Jan 6? My, my, such convoluted lies in order to conjure up a fairytale.

I'm a proud TDSer. But I don't think Jan 6 was an "insurrection". It was a riot.

I do think Trump is guilty of inciting a riot that resulted in people getting killed and federal property being destroyed. He should be in jail for that. But if it was an "insurrection", it was very poorly planned and had no hope of success.

Trump is guilty of nothing of the kind. The only thing destroyed forever is an unarmed woman's life. Being proud to be a TDSer is pretty questionable.

 

[dblack]

Anybody else notice the time and energy TDSers are putting into creating a false reality about Jan 6? My, my, such convoluted lies in order to conjure up a fairytale.

I'm a proud TDSer. But I don't think Jan 6 was an "insurrection". It was a riot.

I do think Trump is guilty of inciting a riot that resulted in people getting killed and federal property being destroyed. He should be in jail for that. But if it was an "insurrection", it was very poorly planned and had no hope of success.

TDS does affect one's brain....Trump is guilty of nothing of the kind. The only thing destroyed forever is an unarmed woman's life.

I understand. He is a god among men. A true modern saint.

 

[Leo123]

I understand. He is a god among men. A true modern saint.

No one said Trump was a saint or a 'god among men.' You could be projecting.

 

[Lastamender]

Anybody else notice the time and energy TDSers are putting into creating a false reality about Jan 6? My, my, such convoluted lies in order to conjure up a fairytale.

I'm a proud TDSer. But I don't think Jan 6 was an "insurrection". It was a riot.

I do think Trump is guilty of inciting a riot that resulted in people getting killed and federal property being destroyed. He should be in jail for that. But if it was an "insurrection", it was very poorly planned and had no hope of success.

TDS does affect one's brain....Trump is guilty of nothing of the kind. The only thing destroyed forever is an unarmed woman's life.

I understand. He is a god among men. A true modern saint.

No, that would be the career criminal and drug addict George Floyd.

 

[dblack]

Anybody else notice the time and energy TDSers are putting into creating a false reality about Jan 6? My, my, such convoluted lies in order to conjure up a fairytale.

I'm a proud TDSer. But I don't think Jan 6 was an "insurrection". It was a riot.

I do think Trump is guilty of inciting a riot that resulted in people getting killed and federal property being destroyed. He should be in jail for that. But if it was an "insurrection", it was very poorly planned and had no hope of success.

TDS does affect one's brain....Trump is guilty of nothing of the kind. The only thing destroyed forever is an unarmed woman's life.

I understand. He is a god among men. A true modern saint.

No, that would be the career criminal and drug addict George Floyd.

Your comments are always so insightful and on point.

 

[Correll]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

We do not know that. YOu people want to believe that, because it gives you an excuse to smear and vilify people you hate.


The more you call people vile names, FALSELY, the more you piss us off.


Do you want more violence?

Are you threatening violence if we don't stop calling out your bullshit? If there was anything good, honest or decent there you assholes threw it in the trash on 1/6. More violence is not going to do anything except to further damn your cause.

You calling good people "klan members" is not calling us out on our bullshit, it is you spewing bullshit.

My intent is not to "threaten" violence, but to wake you up to the obvious consequences of your behavior, so that we can have LESS violence moving forward instead of more.

Obviously.

 

[Correll]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

We do not know that. YOu people want to believe that, because it gives you an excuse to smear and vilify people you hate.


The more you call people vile names, FALSELY, the more you piss us off.


Do you want more violence?

Are you threatening violence if we don't stop calling out your bullshit? If there was anything good, honest or decent there you assholes threw it in the trash on 1/6. More violence is not going to do anything except to further damn your cause.

"If we're violent, it's your fault". The excuse of rapists and terrorists.

As we saw on Jan 6.

Mac, please ease up on the "understanding". You are going way overboard. So much understanding, is not safe for a mere human.


And I like the way that you call me a rapist and a terrorist, while not actually doing it. REally drives home how great the Clean Debate Zone is.

If you are a rules lawyer with the heart of a troll.

 

[Correll]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

Trump was a lousy racist. He wanted charter schools for inner city Black kids. He set up Opportunity Zones to benefit Black neighborhoods. They also saw their wages rise significantly before the Scamdemic.

Trump's most devoted followers are the haters. They saw something there they really liked.

Note how lastamender cited THREE Trump polices/results to support his point, while you just called people names.

And yet you people are soooo sure that you are the reasonable ones.


Liberals. All the self awareness of a potted plant. If the potted plant was dead.

 

[Correll]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

Trump was a lousy racist. He wanted charter schools for inner city Black kids. He set up Opportunity Zones to benefit Black neighborhoods. They also saw their wages rise significantly before the Scamdemic.

Trump's most devoted followers are the haters. They saw something there they really liked.

Big time projection. Do they scream for dead cops? Do they burn cities and loot? You are with the haters. There is no doubt about it.

There was no a political cost to condemning violence when BLM protests got out of hand. No one turned on anyone for saying that violence was not to be tolerated and looters should be jailed. Meanwhile republicans have had to walk back any criticism they ever had for the insurrectionists and join in the revisionism that holds Trump and his followers blameless for 1/6.

The Feds dropped the charges on most and have Trump supporters in solitary confinement for trespassing. You people are fascists.

You cannot bring yourself to say anything against the so called patriots that desecrated the capital over a mere lost election. Your tacit approval of political violence is hardly unexpected. It tracks with the frantic whitewashing that has been a constant chore to make Trump's presidency something other than an eternal embarrassment for our country.

The op claims that the riot was NOT about the election. Did you forget that?

 

[occupied]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

We do not know that. YOu people want to believe that, because it gives you an excuse to smear and vilify people you hate.


The more you call people vile names, FALSELY, the more you piss us off.


Do you want more violence?

Are you threatening violence if we don't stop calling out your bullshit? If there was anything good, honest or decent there you assholes threw it in the trash on 1/6. More violence is not going to do anything except to further damn your cause.

You calling good people "klan members" is not calling us out on our bullshit, it is you spewing bullshit.

My intent is not to "threaten" violence, but to wake you up to the obvious consequences of your behavior, so that we can have LESS violence moving forward instead of more.

Obviously.

If a bunch of scumbags decide to spill blood over my non violent opinions it's hardly my fault. I am not responsible for your bruised feelings or your unfocused rage.

 

[Correll]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

We do not know that. YOu people want to believe that, because it gives you an excuse to smear and vilify people you hate.


The more you call people vile names, FALSELY, the more you piss us off.


Do you want more violence?

Are you threatening violence if we don't stop calling out your bullshit? If there was anything good, honest or decent there you assholes threw it in the trash on 1/6. More violence is not going to do anything except to further damn your cause.

You calling good people "klan members" is not calling us out on our bullshit, it is you spewing bullshit.

My intent is not to "threaten" violence, but to wake you up to the obvious consequences of your behavior, so that we can have LESS violence moving forward instead of more.

Obviously.

If a bunch of scumbags decide to spill blood over my non violent opinions it's hardly my fault. I am not responsible for your bruised feelings or your unfocused rage.

You pretending to forget that people like you use false accusations of wacism, to deny good people their right to voice their concerns and have them addressed politically? As discussed above?

You are the bad guy here, smearing good people with vile slurs, based on bullshit.

 

[Shelzin]

If a bunch of scumbags decide to spill blood over my non violent opinions it's hardly my fault. I am not responsible for your bruised feelings or your unfocused rage.

I feel the same about Antifa and BLM.

 

[Correll]

If a bunch of scumbags decide to spill blood over my non violent opinions it's hardly my fault. I am not responsible for your bruised feelings or your unfocused rage.

I feel the same about Antifa and BLM.

Except we don't constantly prevent their issues from being addressed by calling them names liked retarded monkeys.

 

[occupied]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

We do not know that. YOu people want to believe that, because it gives you an excuse to smear and vilify people you hate.


The more you call people vile names, FALSELY, the more you piss us off.


Do you want more violence?

Are you threatening violence if we don't stop calling out your bullshit? If there was anything good, honest or decent there you assholes threw it in the trash on 1/6. More violence is not going to do anything except to further damn your cause.

You calling good people "klan members" is not calling us out on our bullshit, it is you spewing bullshit.

My intent is not to "threaten" violence, but to wake you up to the obvious consequences of your behavior, so that we can have LESS violence moving forward instead of more.

Obviously.

If a bunch of scumbags decide to spill blood over my non violent opinions it's hardly my fault. I am not responsible for your bruised feelings or your unfocused rage.

You pretending to forget that people like you use false accusations of wacism, to deny good people their right to voice their concerns and have them addressed politically? As discussed above?

You are the bad guy here, smearing good people with vile slurs, based on bullshit.

Boo fucking hoo. You don't see me going around pissing and moaning about what you maniacs call liberals. Grow a thicker hide snowflake. If I think something is racist I'm going to say it as if I live in a free country where people can say what they want. Nothing about the 1st amendment means I have to respect a goddamned thing you or anyone says. If people think you are being racist you probably are in some way. Either adjust your rhetoric or take your lumps like a grown up adult.

 

[Correll]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

We do not know that. YOu people want to believe that, because it gives you an excuse to smear and vilify people you hate.


The more you call people vile names, FALSELY, the more you piss us off.


Do you want more violence?

Are you threatening violence if we don't stop calling out your bullshit? If there was anything good, honest or decent there you assholes threw it in the trash on 1/6. More violence is not going to do anything except to further damn your cause.

You calling good people "klan members" is not calling us out on our bullshit, it is you spewing bullshit.

My intent is not to "threaten" violence, but to wake you up to the obvious consequences of your behavior, so that we can have LESS violence moving forward instead of more.

Obviously.

If a bunch of scumbags decide to spill blood over my non violent opinions it's hardly my fault. I am not responsible for your bruised feelings or your unfocused rage.

You pretending to forget that people like you use false accusations of wacism, to deny good people their right to voice their concerns and have them addressed politically? As discussed above?

You are the bad guy here, smearing good people with vile slurs, based on bullshit.

Boo fucking hoo. You don't see me going around pissing and moaning about what you maniacs call liberals. Grow a thicker hide snowflake. If I think something is racist I'm going to say it as if I live in a free country where people can say what they want. Nothing about the 1st amendment means I have to respect a goddamned thing you or anyone says. If people think you are being racist you probably are in some way. Either adjust your rhetoric or take your lumps like a grown up adult.

You have weaponized calling people wacist to the point that is effectively suppresses the ability of people to get their valid interests and grievances heard, let alone addressed.

That is a breakdown of the system.


If you make peaceful change impossible, don't whine like a faggot, when you get violence.

 

[occupied]

Trumpism is very much about maintaining and strengthening every unfair advantage white people have left. They being vengeful minded are certain all the people that got officially treated like garbage for 250 years are out for some payback.

Whites have no "unfair advantage".

Whites are widely and massively discriminated against.

I note that you cite "250 years of official treatment" and don't bother mentions the ever increasing efforts of the last few generations to help blacks (and browns).

That is not accurately or fairly discussing the issue. That is being part of the problem.

Trumpism has been a real joy to people who go through life being called selfish assholes. Suddenly here's this movement that tells you that your prejudices are patriotism and your fears are justified.

Wanting to NOT be discriminated against, or having some issue with rapid demographic shift is not a "prejudice".

If you don't want people to think you are racist you need to quit letting racists speak for you.

There are those who are simply racist, and those who are willing to enable them via denial, deflection and willful ignorance.

Which is worse? I guess I could make an argument in either direction.

Occupied is smearing scores of millions of good people, with a slur, for partisan purposes, and you are supporting him.

This type of behavior has been used to dismiss the valid interests and concerns of the people that the 1/6 rioters came from.


If you want to understand their psychology, you need to understand that you being a dick to them, is going to result in them being angry with you.


You do it long enough, and the list of grievances get big enough, and violence will eventually result.

Question: Has anything happened to REDUCE that list since 1/6, or is it only growing?

Collectively the hard right is as racist as a Klan meeting. Step away from the bastards and make some effort to differentiate yourself and the problem goes away.

You are being very vague about who you are talking about, but real quick with very serious and personal slurs. I guess the clean debate zone is ok with that.

The Klan is estimated at a few thousand people in this country. Even if you try to count EVERY ws, you still will be lucky to get into the 5 digits.

They are an insignificant fringe and anyone smearing the GOP as a whole, or a mainstream figure like Trump with them, is being....


very divisive. And violating the spirit of the Clean Debate Zone, if not the letter of it.


AND my point is, that the more you do that, and the more you suppress the right of good people to have valid issues and concerns discussed because someone called them names, the more you create the situation where violence is going to occur.

For every card-carrying Klan member there are ten-thousand who will never say anything against them. That looks a lot like tacit approval. That was clearly illustrated during the battle over confederate monuments. Every one of you knew for a fact that White supremacists were leading that fight and you fell in behind them. The right has failed the racism test every single time since Trump became your leader.

We do not know that. YOu people want to believe that, because it gives you an excuse to smear and vilify people you hate.


The more you call people vile names, FALSELY, the more you piss us off.


Do you want more violence?

Are you threatening violence if we don't stop calling out your bullshit? If there was anything good, honest or decent there you assholes threw it in the trash on 1/6. More violence is not going to do anything except to further damn your cause.

You calling good people "klan members" is not calling us out on our bullshit, it is you spewing bullshit.

My intent is not to "threaten" violence, but to wake you up to the obvious consequences of your behavior, so that we can have LESS violence moving forward instead of more.

Obviously.

If a bunch of scumbags decide to spill blood over my non violent opinions it's hardly my fault. I am not responsible for your bruised feelings or your unfocused rage.

You pretending to forget that people like you use false accusations of wacism, to deny good people their right to voice their concerns and have them addressed politically? As discussed above?

You are the bad guy here, smearing good people with vile slurs, based on bullshit.

Boo fucking hoo. You don't see me going around pissing and moaning about what you maniacs call liberals. Grow a thicker hide snowflake. If I think something is racist I'm going to say it as if I live in a free country where people can say what they want. Nothing about the 1st amendment means I have to respect a goddamned thing you or anyone says. If people think you are being racist you probably are in some way. Either adjust your rhetoric or take your lumps like a grown up adult.

You have weaponized calling people wacist to the point that is effectively suppresses the ability of people to get their valid interests and grievances heard, let alone addressed.

That is a breakdown of the system.


If you make peaceful change impossible, don't whine like a faggot, when you get violence.

You really should differentiate between me personally and whatever group you are in the process of blaming for your problems. For example: When I say "you" I am talking about you and what you have said and not about all conservatives or Trumpbots. We are just two nobodies talking on a message board and neither of us are responsible for any difficulty the other is having nor do we have any control over the government, party politics or what anyone else says. I do not speak for anyone but me. If you presume to speak for all Trumbots well that's retarded.