Theowl32
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Rather imperative to distinguish American Jews in regards to this issue. American Jews are distinct religion which is different from RACE. Religion is a daily CHOICE, race IS NOT.RE: The Star of David is deemed “Hateful Imagery” on Twitter
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BLUF: OK, so some parts of this are most probably true. You cannot play-off the General Population by earmarking "American Jews." They are just "Americans."
(COMMENT)Far left hates Israel and hates American Jews ( for different reasons )
I'm not even sure that you can realistically apply the far "Left Wing" Politics or the far "Right Wing" to the issues related to Israel. The extremist in either political direction is moving away from a Government under the Rule of Law. To the far "Left" is in the direction of totalitarianism and the far "Right" is in the direction you discover anarchy.
The proponents at either end of the spectrum are nothing more than political snake-oil salesmen. Neither is particularly beneficial to any agenda or topic.
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Very few American Jews are FAITHFUL to the Mosaic Law and they see themselves as leftists/marxists long before they see themselves as Jews faithful to their proclaimed beliefs. How many times have the prophets warned about wolves in sheep's clothing?
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spiritually blind fools under the spell of group think where conformity is most essential.
I cannot remember when the last time I heard Americans claiming to be in support of the political and economic theory which, in itself, is not defined in terms applicable in the 21st Century.
Group Think is a sign of the desire for all the sheep to play well together. Like so many other sets of conditions, we run into every day, Group Think is the process of teaching the group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically. Politics is the strategy to exploit the weakness and herd the sheep together.
Most Respectfully,
R
"Americans" is just too general when discussing ISRAEL for rather obvious reasons.
Again, most Jewish AMERICANS really don't care one way or the other about Israel. However, most Jewish AMERICANS will claim to care or back Israel publicly.
I believe most Jewish Americans that vote democrat (stats show 70%+ do) are torn about it. It is an issue that causes OBVIOUS COGNITIVE DISSONANCE with them. Most people deal with COGNITIVE dissonance by ignoring it or retorting angrily.
Give an example. The AMERICAN LEFT love to associate Trump with nazis along with every white Christian conservative. This is not up for debate, that is a fact.
However whenever someone like me points out that Trump has a train station named after Trump in Israel and a community (Golan Heights) named after Trump, this is IGNORED. Watch how it won't be addressed or some angry retort about me being a racist.
Doesn't fit the long well established narrative in the cultural marxist politically correct divide and conquer political strategy. That CONTRADICTS the claims of Trump or his voters being a nazi nazi nazi nazi.
In fact, the democrat voting base is overwhelmingly against Israel, which actually fits the narrative that it is the left wing socialists that more closely resemble nazi ideology.
Try starting a thread on the political board about being pro Israel. Watch the board leftists attack you. Remember, the left are the same ones who yell about GAY RIGHTS AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS. Israel is the only ME country that doesn't illegalize homosexuality and they don't execute their women for being raped.
Want to see who it is that rejected a two state solution. The country that people call Palestine (along with most muslim countries) has rejected that two state solution FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES.
There is no emotion there, only documented facts.
It is always fascinating to me how so many Trump supporters need to attack American Jewish voters for not voting for him, and much less for seeing very clearly that all American Nazis, and all other White Supremacists, who have voted in 2016 and may be voting this year.....are Trump supporters.
They voted for him because he knew what to promise them. And then we saw how those who are usually targeted by racists and white supremacists ended up being a greater focus of those attacks, for the past almost 4 years. I am talking not only about the black community, but the Jewish, Hispanic and Asian communities.
Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem. Great.
Trump is for the annexation of the Jordan Valley. Great.
Trump has a few placed named after him in Israel because of that. Great.
None of the above takes away from him giving liberty to racists to attack Jews in the USA, which is at an all time high....due to the words he uttered during his rallies, pre and post 2016 election. He has done nothing to stop them because he cannot just say "Please stop attacking the Jews". So, the attacks continue.
Sure, attacks on Jews have gone up all over the world due to a lot of Muslim immigration to many countries, but that is not clearly why the attacks on American Jews have gone up.
You seem to be simply doing propaganda for the Trump campaign by saying this:
<<In fact, the democrat voting base is overwhelmingly against Israel, which actually fits the narrative that it is the left wing socialists that more closely resemble nazi ideology.>>>
Nothing is further from the truth than this Republican pro Trump propaganda designed to make people turn against the Democrats in general in the USA, or attempt to make Jews who vote Democratic.....a vast majority......to "see the light" and vote for Trump.
Trump attempted that using the same ideas you are using against Jews who vote for the democratic party.
They did not work. Your attempts are going to work even less.
That is not what the topic of this thread is about, but as usual, someone like you will always attempt to hijack the thread and turn it into another topic, on as many thread as one can.
Anything to say about the Star of David being deemed a hateful imagery on Twitter? I may not have read all of your posts, but I am in doubt that you may have said anything about the topic on this thread.
Shalom
You are lost.
Let me ask you this. Why has Israel named a train station after Trump?
How about the Golan Heights named after Trump in Israel?
You think Israelis are fans of the American democrats?
You are lost in socialist crap. If you are voting democrat after seeing how clear it is that the leftists in this country clearly hate Israel then you are nothing more than a clear enemy to the Land of Canaan. You are a betrayer to your own people.
Period.
Maybe you didn't see how david duke supports democrats.
David Duke praises Rep. Ilhan Omar
Rep. Ilhan Omar, Minnesota Democrat, has an ally of a new stripe in the furor over her use of anti-Semitic tropes regarding Israel and its American supporters David Duke.
apnews.com
You are brainwashed and a wolf in sheep's clothing. Most Jewish Americans don't follow the Mosaic Law. They don't go to Temple. Their faith is luke warm at best.
Keep voting democrat. Nothing but an idolator.