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like they have found the deep ocean heat via measurements of atmospheric CO2 and O2...can't be measured with a thermometer, but apparently they can see it clearly in CO2 and O2 proxies....and I guess in a crystal ball.
Are you unaware that gas solubility is temperature dependent? What education have you actually completed? Cause, it's looking more and more like you might just be a total dropout.
 

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like they have found the deep ocean heat via measurements of atmospheric CO2 and O2...can't be measured with a thermometer, but apparently they can see it clearly in CO2 and O2 proxies....and I guess in a crystal ball.
Are you unaware that gas solubility is temperature dependent? What education have you actually completed? Cause, it's looking more and more like you might just be a total dropout.

Of course not...that relationship explains much of the increase in global CO2...that and the 95% of undersea volcanos they forgot to mention in their assessment of how much CO2 is due to volcanic activity.
Still stinging from having your ass handed to you skid mark? Let me guess, you believe the flawed gas solubility model they came up with is more accurate than a thermometer? Go ahead and say it...if you need to believe it in order to support your position, you will believe it...if they asked you to believe in unicorns..and that may be the next thing, you are perfectly willing to believe.
 

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Since they can produce no observed, measured evidence to support their claims, why exactly should anyone believe...I mean, I know why you believe...you are the perfect useful idiot...but why should anyone else believe?
 

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Since they can produce no observed, measured evidence to support their claims, why exactly should anyone believe...I mean, I know why you believe...you are the perfect useful idiot...but why should anyone else believe?
Crick, so easily taken in by bogus reports from SS and Stephen "wind" Sherwood, who didn't actually find the "hot spot" at all. I expected those two links EXACTLY because that is virtually all they use.

Satellite data doesn't show it at all, which is why SS and "Wind" Sherwood ignored it.

Here is the comment from Bill Illis at WUWT:

"Bill Illis
May 15, 2015 at 5:14 am

Here is the HadAT database for the weather balloon data going back to 1958.
The Hotspot(s) that Sherwood found are at the 300 mb level or the average height that Channel 3 shows here.

Channel 3 trend is effectively Zero.
http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadat/images/update_images/msu_timeseries.png

We can also get a more detailed latitude breakdown from RSS going back to 1987 (TTS or Channel 3 or 300 mb again).
Tropics. Nothing.
http://data.remss.com/msu/graphics/tts/plots/RSS_TS_channel_TTS_Tropics_Land_and_Sea_v03_3.png

Southern mid-latitudes. Negative.
http://data.remss.com/msu/graphics/tts/plots/RSS_TS_channel_TTS_Southern Mid Latitudes_Land_and_Sea_v03_3.png

Hence, one should be able to conclude that there is other data which completely contradicts Sherwood’s finding of the hotspot and he will need to show everyone exactly what he did in this paper or it will go into the dustbin like his previous attempts did."
 
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Hahahaha. Crick sees no problem in using proxy data for a parameter that was already directly measured!
 

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like they have found the deep ocean heat via measurements of atmospheric CO2 and O2...can't be measured with a thermometer, but apparently they can see it clearly in CO2 and O2 proxies....and I guess in a crystal ball.
Are you unaware that gas solubility is temperature dependent? What education have you actually completed? Cause, it's looking more and more like you might just be a total dropout.
He doesn't have much content, just quips.
And as the Ocean Warms and swells, it;s going to 'boil off' more CO2.
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And as the Ocean Warms and swells, it;s going to 'boil off' more CO2.
You believe the AL Gore lie of the ocean boiling...Now that's priceless..... What a bunch of fools ..
How completely stupid do they have to be to believe the things they believe? Have there ever been a finer collection of useful idiots to push a false narrative?
 

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poor abu fak...sitting before the monitor with sweat beads on his lip...anxiously awaiting the next post so that he can impotently hit the funny button in protest of being exposed for the doofus he is...keep it up guy...hit that funny button...maybe you believe if you hit it enough times you can change the world...it wouldn't be the stupidest thing you believe.
 

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Celsius. Fahrenheit.
They’re all just numbers.

Independent Audit Exposes The Fraud In Global Warming Data
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Conspiracy CRAP from 'ZeroHedge'.

Zero Hedge - RationalWiki

Zero Hedge

is a batshit insane Austrian school finance blog run by two pseudonymous founders who post articles under the name "Tyler Durden," after the character from Fight Club. It's essentially Apocalypse Porn. It has accurately predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions.


Tyler claims to be a "believer in a sweeping conspiracy that casts the alumni of Goldman Sachs as a powerful cabal at the helm of U.S. policy, with the Treasury and the Federal Reserve colluding to preserve the status quo." While this is not an entirely unreasonable statement of the problem,[1]his solution actually mirrors the antagonist in Fight Club: Tyler wants, per Austrian school ideas, to lead a catastrophic market crash in order to destroy banking institutions and bring back "real" free market capitalism.[2]

The site posts nearly indecipherable analyses of multiple seemingly unrelated subjects to point towards a consistent theme of economic collapse any day now. Tyler seems to repeat The Economic Collapse Blog's idea of posting blog articles many times a day and encouraging people to post it as far and wide as humanly possible. Tyler moves away from the format of long lists to write insanely dense volumes[3] filled with (often contradicting) jargon that makes one wonder if the writers even know what the words actually mean.[4] The site first appeared in early 2009, meaning that (given Tyler's habit of taking a shit on each and every positive data point), anyone listening to him from the beginning missed the entire 2009-2017 rally in the equities market.

The only writer conclusively identified is Dan Ivandjiiski, who conducts public interviews on behalf of Zero Hedge.[5] The blog came online several days after he lost his job at Wexford Capital, a Connecticut-based hedge fund...


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Celsius. Fahrenheit.
They’re all just numbers.

Independent Audit Exposes The Fraud In Global Warming Data

Anomalies it has identified include at St Kitts in the Caribbean, the average temperature for December 1981 was zero degrees, normally it’s 26C. For three months in 1978, one place in Colombia reported an 82 degrees Celsius average – hotter than the hottest day on Earth. Then in Romania, one September the average temperature was reported as minus 46°C, which has never happened. The data showed that supposedly ships would report ocean temperatures from places up to 100km inland. The paper also points out that the most serious flaws identified was the shortage of data. For the first two years, from 1850 onwards, the only land-based reporting station in the Southern Hemisphere was in Indonesia. Then there were ship observations at the time but Australian records had not started until 1855 in Melbourne, behind Auckland which started in 1853. This data appears to have been just made up.
I thought it was Centigrade?
 

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Celsius. Fahrenheit.
They’re all just numbers.

Independent Audit Exposes The Fraud In Global Warming Data
....
Conspiracy CRAP from 'ZeroHedge'.

Zero Hedge - RationalWiki

Zero Hedge

is a batshit insane Austrian school finance blog run by two pseudonymous founders who post articles under the name "Tyler Durden," after the character from Fight Club. It's essentially Apocalypse Porn. It has accurately predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions.


Tyler claims to be a "believer in a sweeping conspiracy that casts the alumni of Goldman Sachs as a powerful cabal at the helm of U.S. policy, with the Treasury and the Federal Reserve colluding to preserve the status quo." While this is not an entirely unreasonable statement of the problem,[1]his solution actually mirrors the antagonist in Fight Club: Tyler wants, per Austrian school ideas, to lead a catastrophic market crash in order to destroy banking institutions and bring back "real" free market capitalism.[2]

The site posts nearly indecipherable analyses of multiple seemingly unrelated subjects to point towards a consistent theme of economic collapse any day now. Tyler seems to repeat The Economic Collapse Blog's idea of posting blog articles many times a day and encouraging people to post it as far and wide as humanly possible. Tyler moves away from the format of long lists to write insanely dense volumes[3] filled with (often contradicting) jargon that makes one wonder if the writers even know what the words actually mean.[4] The site first appeared in early 2009, meaning that (given Tyler's habit of taking a shit on each and every positive data point), anyone listening to him from the beginning missed the entire 2009-2017 rally in the equities market.

The only writer conclusively identified is Dan Ivandjiiski, who conducts public interviews on behalf of Zero Hedge.[5] The blog came online several days after he lost his job at Wexford Capital, a Connecticut-based hedge fund...


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So do you have any actual evidence to support your belief, or is your post just another impotent ad hom?

And wiki isn't exactly a great source either....interesting that you would offer up one piece of crap source as "evidence" that another source is a piece of crap.
 

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