The "social contract" that doesn't exist

[Redfish]

And the libertarian fails to earn his money by retaliating with ad homs as does the anarchist failed propagandists.

Poor snake, did you take a double dose of paxil with your vodka last night? your brain appears to be very damaged this morning.

maybe a couple valiums and a shot of rum.

Fakey believes he's entitled to be treated with respect.

Isn't that a hoot?

respect has to be earned, snake is a liar not worthy of respect. He is nothing but a talking point repeater for the dem/lib lie machine.

 

[peach174]

wow if you are correct OP then you should have no problem convincing the American people in elections to vote your way.

does that mean you will stop cheating your asses off to win elections?

If Repubs were really cheating to win elections, then they would be winning them more than the Dems, but they aren't.
Dems are the ones who are cheating. They are the ones who are getting illegals American Driver Licence's so that they can vote for Dems.

 

[peach174]

Treated with respect from a bunch of far right reactionary hoo doos?

You all have no idea what that means.

Talk about taking things out of context, from Isn't that a Hoot to hoo doos.
Depends on how you are using it Jake.
Like in who do you think you are?
Know it alls, like the left are?
Or, Hoo doo as in magic and control (charm or curse) or bad luck?

 

[JoeB131]

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[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION], sweetie, it's painfully obvious why you're a high school drop out, minimum wage factory worker...

The rate for minimum wage has gone up about 20 times in my lifetime. And each time you people cry that it's not enough for a "living wage". Why? Because you're too ****'n stupid to figure out that when you raise the minimum wage, the cost of everything goes up to cover the cost of that new minimum wage JoeB131.

The profound ignorance you people display is simply astounding. This is basic stuff that even 3rd graders understand. And you wonder why you can't hold a job and then blame business owners for it?!?

Aww. look Poodle's lonely, he's doing mentions so someone pays attention to him.

Just to prove you are a liar... here's a chart on increases in the Minimum Wage.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm

To go back 20 increases, you would need to go back to 1956.

Somehow, I doubt you are nearly 60. You are just much too immature.

 

[JoeB131]

Poodle, Sweetie, you just don't get how things work.

The cost of a burger is not all labor. Most of the cost is overhead, ingridients, utilities, etc. A 20% increase in the minimum wage would probably only mean a 2-3% increase in the cost of the food.

Further, all those other things are going up whether the minimum wage does or not.

Here's the thing. Back in the Clinton years, most of the "burger flipping" places were offering well above the minimum wage. They simply could not find people to fill those slots when unemployment was down to less than 4%.

This is about the 1%ers abusing their workers, and letting the rest of us pay for it.

Beacuse here's the thing about minimum wage workers. They don't obediently starve. They apply for section 8, food stamps and Medicaid... and they vote for Democrats.

God, you are stone cold stupid, aren't you?

[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION], sweetie, it's painfully obvious why you're a high school drop out, minimum wage factory worker...

The rate for minimum wage has gone up about 20 times in my lifetime. And each time you people cry that it's not enough for a "living wage". Why? Because you're too ****'n stupid to figure out that when you raise the minimum wage, the cost of everything goes up to cover the cost of that new minimum wage JoeB131.

The profound ignorance you people display is simply astounding. This is basic stuff that even 3rd graders understand. And you wonder why you can't hold a job and then blame business owners for it?!?

Ouch! that's gotta hurt!

It absolutely did. The guy just lied about how old he was and thought no one would check it.

 

[P@triot]

Yeah the Burgers in Oregon and Washington are $17 bucks for a whopper.

Wait, no they arent but Oregon and Washington has the highest min wage in the US? Hows that possible?

The rate for minimum wage has gone up about 20 times in my lifetime. And each time you people cry that it's not enough for a "living wage". Why? Because you're too ****'n stupid to figure out that when you raise the minimum wage, the cost of everything goes up to cover the cost of that new minimum wage [MENTION=25032]ClosedCaption[/MENTION].

The profound ignorance you people display is simply astounding. This is basic stuff that even 3rd graders understand.

I'll say this again. The Min Wage is the highest in the US why are their burgers the same price as everyone elses that pays less?

Also if more people have more money and things cost more. Its a wash. All boats are lifted. Right? If not why not?

"All boats are lifted" -

You simply cannot be this stupid. You have to be a troll. Please tell me you are a troll? More people do not have "more money" because the cost of everything goes up to cover the cost of paying the minimum wage. Business owners do not - and will not - eat that cost to pacify you liberal moron's.

I'll say it again junior - the rate for minimum wage has gone up about 20 times in my lifetime. And each time you people cry that it's not enough for a "living wage". Why? Because you're too ****'n stupid to figure out that when you raise the minimum wage, the cost of everything goes up to cover the cost of that new minimum wage.

 

[P@triot]

I think Fakey is a senile old invalid living in a nursing home. He can't possible be a self-supporting independent adult.

And the libertarian fails to earn his money by retaliating with ad homs as does the anarchist failed propagandists.

What money? What makes you think I'm interested in having a substantive debate with a senile old coot who lacks the capability to commit logic?

You're here to be ridiculed, Fakey. You serve as a caricature of everything that's wrong with liberalism. Debating you is a waste of time.

What do you mean debating (and I use that term loosely) Fakey Jakey is a "waste of time"? It's the best thing you can do with your time. It illustrates to the world just how ignorant the liberal ideology is. Jake does more for the conservative movement than even 100 years of Ronald Reagan ever could.

 

[P@triot]

[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION], sweetie, it's painfully obvious why you're a high school drop out, minimum wage factory worker...

The rate for minimum wage has gone up about 20 times in my lifetime. And each time you people cry that it's not enough for a "living wage". Why? Because you're too ****'n stupid to figure out that when you raise the minimum wage, the cost of everything goes up to cover the cost of that new minimum wage JoeB131.

The profound ignorance you people display is simply astounding. This is basic stuff that even 3rd graders understand. And you wonder why you can't hold a job and then blame business owners for it?!?

Aww. look Poodle's lonely, he's doing mentions so someone pays attention to him.

Just to prove you are a liar... here's a chart on increases in the Minimum Wage.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm

To go back 20 increases, you would need to go back to 1956.

Somehow, I doubt you are nearly 60. You are just much too immature.

Yeah - just no way a person on USMB could possibly have been born in the early 1950's

Thank you for proving to be once again just how stupid liberals are...

 

[JoeB131]

[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION], sweetie, it's painfully obvious why you're a high school drop out, minimum wage factory worker...

The rate for minimum wage has gone up about 20 times in my lifetime. And each time you people cry that it's not enough for a "living wage". Why? Because you're too ****'n stupid to figure out that when you raise the minimum wage, the cost of everything goes up to cover the cost of that new minimum wage JoeB131.

The profound ignorance you people display is simply astounding. This is basic stuff that even 3rd graders understand. And you wonder why you can't hold a job and then blame business owners for it?!?

Aww. look Poodle's lonely, he's doing mentions so someone pays attention to him.

Just to prove you are a liar... here's a chart on increases in the Minimum Wage.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm

To go back 20 increases, you would need to go back to 1956.

Somehow, I doubt you are nearly 60. You are just much too immature.

Yeah - just no way a person on USMB could possibly have been born in the early 1950's

Thank you for proving to be once again just how stupid liberals are...

But you weren't. That's pretty clear.

You're about 25, tops.

 

[Faun]

wow if you are correct OP then you should have no problem convincing the American people in elections to vote your way.

does that mean you will stop cheating your asses off to win elections?

If Repubs were really cheating to win elections, then they would be winning them more than the Dems, but they aren't.
Dems are the ones who are cheating. They are the ones who are getting illegals American Driver Licence's so that they can vote for Dems.

WTF?? Democrats are winning more elections than Republicans?? Remind me again ... how many Republicans won a seat in the U.S. Congress in 2012 compared to Democrats?

By your own bizarre logic, it's Republicans who are doing most of the cheating.

 

[P@triot]

wow if you are correct OP then you should have no problem convincing the American people in elections to vote your way.

does that mean you will stop cheating your asses off to win elections?

If Repubs were really cheating to win elections, then they would be winning them more than the Dems, but they aren't.
Dems are the ones who are cheating. They are the ones who are getting illegals American Driver Licence's so that they can vote for Dems.

WTF?? Democrats are winning more elections than Republicans?? Remind me again ... how many Republicans won a seat in the U.S. Congress in 2012 compared to Democrats?

By your own bizarre logic, it's Republicans who are doing most of the cheating.

Then why do you Dumbocrats oppose voter ID to ensure clean, fair elections?

Stop being a ******* troll - you know damn well that Dumbocrats have been caught in voter fraud over and over and that is why they oppose voter ID.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Yup, we have a social compact.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Yup, we have a social compact.

Fake slips in Compact to mask over the fact there is no contract. Now he's saying it was a compact you tacitly made by being present.

 

[Faun]

If Repubs were really cheating to win elections, then they would be winning them more than the Dems, but they aren't.
Dems are the ones who are cheating. They are the ones who are getting illegals American Driver Licence's so that they can vote for Dems.

WTF?? Democrats are winning more elections than Republicans?? Remind me again ... how many Republicans won a seat in the U.S. Congress in 2012 compared to Democrats?

By your own bizarre logic, it's Republicans who are doing most of the cheating.

Then why do you Dumbocrats oppose voter ID to ensure clean, fair elections?

Stop being a ******* troll - you know damn well that Dumbocrats have been caught in voter fraud over and over and that is why they oppose voter ID.

Wiener dog, Republicans also commit voter fraud. And a voter ID card isn't going to help. I already show a driver's license. Any photo ID at all should be sufficient.

At any rate, I was just using that other poster's logic -- that winning more elections is evidence of voter fraud. Ummm .... Republicans won more elections for U.S. Congress in 2012. Guess that makes Republicans the ones committing the most fraud?

 

[DiamondDave]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Yup, we have a social compact.

Do you honestly think the invocation and introduction narrative line of the preamble grants power, let alone forces upon the nation a 'social contract'?

You are a buffoon

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Fake used compact, because he knows a contract requires voluntary consent and signing, while a compact is actually a show of force. As in, cramming everyone together tightly under the guise of solidarity.

We are the -20%!

 

[JakeStarkey]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Yup, we have a social compact.

Do you honestly think the invocation and introduction narrative line of the preamble grants power, let alone forces upon the nation a 'social contract'?

You are a buffoon

The preamble recognizes the fact of the social compact, which is the correct title for "social contract."

Minions, escort DD to the Box of Shame:

 

[TakeAStepBack]

This thread is about the social contract, Fake. Not some Fake goal post shift to compact. Even though we know you prefer force over voluntary any day.

 

[DiamondDave]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Yup, we have a social compact.

Do you honestly think the invocation and introduction narrative line of the preamble grants power, let alone forces upon the nation a 'social contract'?

You are a buffoon

The preamble recognizes the fact of the social compact, which is the correct title for "social contract."

Minions, escort DD to the Box of Shame:

No.. it does not.. it is merely an introduction to the document of the constitution.. the body of which is what grants and restricts power.. the preamble grants no power, forces no contract, nor implies any compact

 

[JakeStarkey]

Escot TASB to the Box of Shame.

The fact remains the Preamble recognizes the social compact, all of the libertarian whining to the contrary changes nothing, and that is how the principle is taught in American schools.

Why do you think, liberts, the overwhelming number of Americans will have nothing to with your philosophy.