The ‘smoking gun’ proving North Carolina Republicans tried to disenfranchise black voters

[Wyatt earp]

Most especially if you're of darker hue, poor, and elderly. Fuck you, in america it was only affluent land holding white males who were supposed to get the vote anyway. God bless the founders. Some rabid frothy mouthed Reich wing fanatics say you don't get to vote.

Name me one blackie that don't have an ID?

How is your mother by the way?

Still can't name me one blackie with out an ID?

Its always funny how democrats insult blackie, insisting they are To fucking retarded to get an ID.

"blackie"?

He's been watching 'Django Unchained' again.

No I don't watch television much.

 

[Synthaholic]

You can't function w/o a valid ID. No two ways about it

I agree, you can not drive , write a check, have a banking account and the list goes on.

No EBT, no welfare benefits, virtually everything requires a valid ID these days and to say someone may not have one is ridiculous

They had valid IDs. That's the point. They just didn't have motor vehicle licenses. Because a lot of poor people don't drive cars. They can't afford the insurance. Until ObamaGas™, they couldn't afford that expensive BushGas™. They take buses.

They had other forms of ID: State and/or Federal-issued EBT, Library Cards, Utility Bills, Social Security cards, Medicaid cards, Medicare cards.

And it wasn't only about ID. The court struck down the elimination of same day registration, and the elimination of a week of early voting.

Face it. North Carolinians are a bunch of racist motherfuckers.

 

[Synthaholic]

Show me one PORCH MONKEY that don't have an ID

The NC gummint made their valid IDs invalid for voting.

Do you comprehend, Gomer?

 

[Wyatt earp]

I am so sick and tired of this fucking argument

Of course any self respecting person has a fucking ID...

Only a teeny tiny percentage of people outside the square mile that can push their shopping cart to begin with.

God damn if we require it for everything else why not require it to vote?



What's more important needing an ID to buy colt 45s or an ID to vote?

 

[Synthaholic]

Just like Liberals said. We're always right!


The ‘smoking gun’ proving North Carolina Republicans tried to disenfranchise black voters


*snip*

One of the most comprehensive studies on the subject found only 31 individual cases of voter impersonation out of more than 1 billion votes cast in the United States since the year 2000. Researchers have found that reports of voter fraud are roughly as common as reports of alien abduction.

The federal court in Richmond found that the primary purpose of North Carolina's wasn't to stop voter fraud, but rather to disenfranchise minority voters. The judges found that the provisions "target African Americans with almost surgical precision."

In particular, the court found that North Carolina lawmakers requested data on racial differences in voting behaviors in the state. "This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.

So the legislators made it so that the only acceptable forms of voter identification were the ones disproportionately used by white people. "With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans," the judges wrote. "The bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess."

The data also showed that black voters were more likely to make use of early voting — particularly the first seven days out of North Carolina's 17-day voting period. So lawmakers eliminated these seven days of voting. "After receipt of this racial data, the General Assembly amended the bill to eliminate the first week of early voting, shortening the total early voting period from seventeen to ten days," the court found.

Most strikingly, the judges point to a "smoking gun" in North Carolina's justification for the law, proving discriminatory intent. The state argued in court that "counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic," and said it did away with Sunday voting as a result.

"Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise," the judges write in their decision.

This is about as clear-cut an indictment of the discriminatory underpinnings of voter-ID laws as you'll find anywhere. Studies have already shown a significant link between support for voter ID and racial discrimination, among both lawmakers and white voters in general.

"Faced with this record," the federal court concludes, "we can only conclude that the North Carolina General Assembly enacted the challenged provisions of the law with discriminatory intent."

Ya know what's funny.... You couldn't get into the DNC convention without showing ID. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander don't ya know...

You couldn't get into the RNC convention with a gun, in open-carry Ohio.

So what's your point?

 

[Synthaholic]

Just like Liberals said. We're always right!


The ‘smoking gun’ proving North Carolina Republicans tried to disenfranchise black voters
..."

The Constitution did NOT "pull the race card".

 

[Synthaholic]

You can't function w/o a valid ID. No two ways about it

I agree, you can not drive , write a check, have a banking account and the list goes on.

No EBT, no welfare benefits, virtually everything requires a valid ID these days and to say someone may not have one is ridiculous

Wrong.

You truly are an ignorant, hateful rightist – typical of most conservatives.

As already correctly noted: a photo ID is not required to apply for and receive public assistance.

Identity is verified using the applicant’s SSN verified via Numident with the SSA.

An applicant needs two of these to obtain benefits...perhaps you can point out which one they can get w/o an ID? Save your BS troll, you cannot function in society w/o a valid ID.


They listed 15 documents that could help establish identity for a Work First subject. Applicants need to supply two of these documents to support their claim on N.C. residency:

1. Driver’s license or ID card

2. Rent receipt

3. Utility bill

4. Motor vehicle registration

5. Documentation from an employer

6. Closed bank account or termination of employment from another state

7. Tax records

8. Registration with an employment agency

8. Children’s school records

9. Food stamps/Medicaid documentation

10. Records from health care provider

11. Written declaration from collateral contact

12. Voter registration card

13. VA or military documentation

14. N.C. school records diploma

15. Document from foreign consulate

Where are you getting that? There's no link.

I do have a link, to their voter's website:

http://voterid.nc.gov/pages/acceptable-ids.html

• NC Driver's License, Learner's Permit, or Provisional License
• Special Identification card (NC DMV ID Card)
• US Passport
• US Military Identification card (Including Active, Retired, Dependents, and Civilian)
• US Veterans Identification card issued by the Department of Veterans Affairs
• Tribal Enrollment card issued by a federally-recognized tribe
• Tribal enrollment card issued by a NC-recognized tribe, signed by an elected tribal official, and compliant with G.S. § 163-166.13
• Out-of-state-driver's license or non-operator's identification card (BUT only if the voter registers to vote in the county within 90 days of the election)

 

[Wyatt earp]

You can't function w/o a valid ID. No two ways about it

I agree, you can not drive , write a check, have a banking account and the list goes on.

No EBT, no welfare benefits, virtually everything requires a valid ID these days and to say someone may not have one is ridiculous

They had valid IDs. That's the point. They just didn't have motor vehicle licenses. Because a lot of poor people don't drive cars. They can't afford the insurance. Until ObamaGas™, they couldn't afford that expensive BushGas™. They take buses.

They had other forms of ID: State and/or Federal-issued EBT, Library Cards, Utility Bills, Social Security cards, Medicaid cards, Medicare cards.

And it wasn't only about ID. The court struck down the elimination of same day registration, and the elimination of a week of early voting.

Face it. North Carolinians are a bunch of racist motherfuckers.

Ok I am trying to figure out your angle, the two most critical ID's are drivers licences (which I agree the poor don't need or have) but there is also state ID's which only like $5.00 in Illinois I had both (just in case) but states like south Carolina you can go to jail for having two state IDS

Now the other two I had was an S.S. card and proof of residence.


The other IDS you talk about you need a state ID to get in the first place..

Every damn library card I had from Chicago, to Arizona to south Carolina I got, I needed a state ID and a proof of residence.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Show me one PORCH MONKEY that don't have an ID

The NC gummint made their valid IDs invalid for voting.

Do you comprehend, Gomer?

Show me the link once more and highlight it I might agree.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Fuck it going to bother looking up your angle myself

 

[Synthaholic]

I am so sick and tired of this fucking argument

Of course any self respecting person has a fucking ID...

They did have ID. Until NC said that ID is no longer good enough.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You can't function w/o a valid ID. No two ways about it

I agree, you can not drive , write a check, have a banking account and the list goes on.

No EBT, no welfare benefits, virtually everything requires a valid ID these days and to say someone may not have one is ridiculous

Wrong.

You truly are an ignorant, hateful rightist – typical of most conservatives.

As already correctly noted: a photo ID is not required to apply for and receive public assistance.

Identity is verified using the applicant’s SSN verified via Numident with the SSA.

An applicant needs two of these to obtain benefits...perhaps you can point out which one they can get w/o an ID? Save your BS troll, you cannot function in society w/o a valid ID.


They listed 15 documents that could help establish identity for a Work First subject. Applicants need to supply two of these documents to support their claim on N.C. residency:

1. Driver’s license or ID card

2. Rent receipt

3. Utility bill

4. Motor vehicle registration

5. Documentation from an employer

6. Closed bank account or termination of employment from another state

7. Tax records

8. Registration with an employment agency

8. Children’s school records

9. Food stamps/Medicaid documentation

10. Records from health care provider

11. Written declaration from collateral contact

12. Voter registration card

13. VA or military documentation

14. N.C. school records diploma

15. Document from foreign consulate

Where are you getting that? There's no link.

I do have a link, to their voter's website:

http://voterid.nc.gov/pages/acceptable-ids.html

• NC Driver's License, Learner's Permit, or Provisional License
• Special Identification card (NC DMV ID Card)
• US Passport
• US Military Identification card (Including Active, Retired, Dependents, and Civilian)
• US Veterans Identification card issued by the Department of Veterans Affairs
• Tribal Enrollment card issued by a federally-recognized tribe
• Tribal enrollment card issued by a NC-recognized tribe, signed by an elected tribal official, and compliant with G.S. § 163-166.13
• Out-of-state-driver's license or non-operator's identification card (BUT only if the voter registers to vote in the county within 90 days of the election)

What the fuck are you talking about read 8 story's the only thing I could find to be pissed about if I was a liberal child living and going to school at duke, would be I couldn't throw a local election ...vote with just a college issued ID..

But if I had CCW ID I could

 

[Synthaholic]

You can't function w/o a valid ID. No two ways about it

I agree, you can not drive , write a check, have a banking account and the list goes on.

No EBT, no welfare benefits, virtually everything requires a valid ID these days and to say someone may not have one is ridiculous

They had valid IDs. That's the point. They just didn't have motor vehicle licenses. Because a lot of poor people don't drive cars. They can't afford the insurance. Until ObamaGas™, they couldn't afford that expensive BushGas™. They take buses.

They had other forms of ID: State and/or Federal-issued EBT, Library Cards, Utility Bills, Social Security cards, Medicaid cards, Medicare cards.

And it wasn't only about ID. The court struck down the elimination of same day registration, and the elimination of a week of early voting.

Face it. North Carolinians are a bunch of racist motherfuckers.

Ok I am trying to figure out your angle, the two most critical ID's are drivers licences (which I agree the poor don't need or have) but there is also state ID's which only like $5.00 in Illinois I had both (just in case) but states like south Carolina you can go to jail for having two state IDS

In order to get one you have to be ready to spend hours at a state office, like a DMV, in order to get that ID. They aren't going to let you mail in a photo. Many poor people do not have the ability to throw a half day of work away to sit at the DMV.

Now the other two I had was an S.S. card and proof of residence.

Neither is a photo ID.

The other IDS you talk about you need a state ID to get in the first place..

Every damn library card I had from Chicago, to Arizona to south Carolina I got, I needed a state ID and a proof of residence.

Again, not photo IDs.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The North Carolina law said a college issued ID was unacceptable but a state issued CCW was..

That's not racist, that is just biased against college kids going to a southern school on mommy's dime that live in the blue states.

 

[Synthaholic]

Show me one PORCH MONKEY that don't have an ID

The NC gummint made their valid IDs invalid for voting.

Do you comprehend, Gomer?

Show me the link once more and highlight it I might agree.

From the NC website:

What type of photo IDs will be accepted in 2016?

ACCEPTABLE PHOTO ID IN 2016
http://voterid.nc.gov/pages/acceptable-ids.html

• NC Driver's License, Learner's Permit, or Provisional License
• Special Identification card (NC DMV ID Card)
• US Passport
• US Military Identification card (Including Active, Retired, Dependents, and Civilian)
• US Veterans Identification card issued by the Department of Veterans Affairs
• Tribal Enrollment card issued by a federally-recognized tribe
• Tribal enrollment card issued by a NC-recognized tribe, signed by an elected tribal official, and compliant with G.S. § 163-166.13
• Out-of-state-driver's license or non-operator's identification card (BUT only if the voter registers to vote in the county within 90 days of the election)

 

[Wyatt earp]

You can't function w/o a valid ID. No two ways about it

I agree, you can not drive , write a check, have a banking account and the list goes on.

No EBT, no welfare benefits, virtually everything requires a valid ID these days and to say someone may not have one is ridiculous

They had valid IDs. That's the point. They just didn't have motor vehicle licenses. Because a lot of poor people don't drive cars. They can't afford the insurance. Until ObamaGas™, they couldn't afford that expensive BushGas™. They take buses.

They had other forms of ID: State and/or Federal-issued EBT, Library Cards, Utility Bills, Social Security cards, Medicaid cards, Medicare cards.

And it wasn't only about ID. The court struck down the elimination of same day registration, and the elimination of a week of early voting.

Face it. North Carolinians are a bunch of racist motherfuckers.

Ok I am trying to figure out your angle, the two most critical ID's are drivers licences (which I agree the poor don't need or have) but there is also state ID's which only like $5.00 in Illinois I had both (just in case) but states like south Carolina you can go to jail for having two state IDS

In order to get one you have to be ready to spend hours at a state office, like a DMV, in order to get that ID. They aren't going to let you mail in a photo. Many poor people do not have the ability to throw a half day of work away to sit at the DMV.

Now the other two I had was an S.S. card and proof of residence.

Neither is a photo ID.

The other IDS you talk about you need a state ID to get in the first place..

Every damn library card I had from Chicago, to Arizona to south Carolina I got, I needed a state ID and a proof of residence.

Again, not photo IDs.

Wait a second I have to spend hours at the DMV the big government that the liberals created, but you can't?

Lmao

 

[Synthaholic]

vote with just a college issued ID..

Yeah, NC took that one off the list of acceptable IDs, too.

Even though North Carolina-accredited universities issued the IDs.

They also said you could no longer vote in the county where you lived, while going to one of the universities. You had to go home and vote in whatever county you are from, where your parents live.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Show me one PORCH MONKEY that don't have an ID

The NC gummint made their valid IDs invalid for voting.

Do you comprehend, Gomer?

Show me the link once more and highlight it I might agree.

From the NC website:

What type of photo IDs will be accepted in 2016?

ACCEPTABLE PHOTO ID IN 2016
http://voterid.nc.gov/pages/acceptable-ids.html

• NC Driver's License, Learner's Permit, or Provisional License
• Special Identification card (NC DMV ID Card)
• US Passport
• US Military Identification card (Including Active, Retired, Dependents, and Civilian)
• US Veterans Identification card issued by the Department of Veterans Affairs
• Tribal Enrollment card issued by a federally-recognized tribe
• Tribal enrollment card issued by a NC-recognized tribe, signed by an elected tribal official, and compliant with G.S. § 163-166.13
• Out-of-state-driver's license or non-operator's identification card (BUT only if the voter registers to vote in the county within 90 days of the election)

Again you are telling me blacks are to dumb to get a passport? And travel?

Then what is this hoopla about having a black president, great economy , 5% unemployment?

What's that all about?

 

[Synthaholic]

I agree, you can not drive , write a check, have a banking account and the list goes on.

No EBT, no welfare benefits, virtually everything requires a valid ID these days and to say someone may not have one is ridiculous

They had valid IDs. That's the point. They just didn't have motor vehicle licenses. Because a lot of poor people don't drive cars. They can't afford the insurance. Until ObamaGas™, they couldn't afford that expensive BushGas™. They take buses.

They had other forms of ID: State and/or Federal-issued EBT, Library Cards, Utility Bills, Social Security cards, Medicaid cards, Medicare cards.

And it wasn't only about ID. The court struck down the elimination of same day registration, and the elimination of a week of early voting.

Face it. North Carolinians are a bunch of racist motherfuckers.

Ok I am trying to figure out your angle, the two most critical ID's are drivers licences (which I agree the poor don't need or have) but there is also state ID's which only like $5.00 in Illinois I had both (just in case) but states like south Carolina you can go to jail for having two state IDS

In order to get one you have to be ready to spend hours at a state office, like a DMV, in order to get that ID. They aren't going to let you mail in a photo. Many poor people do not have the ability to throw a half day of work away to sit at the DMV.

Now the other two I had was an S.S. card and proof of residence.

Neither is a photo ID.

The other IDS you talk about you need a state ID to get in the first place..

Every damn library card I had from Chicago, to Arizona to south Carolina I got, I needed a state ID and a proof of residence.

Again, not photo IDs.

Wait a second I have to spend hours at the DMV the big government that the liberals created, but you can't?

Lmao

Liberals created the DMV?

 

[WelfareQueen]

Just like Liberals said. We're always right!


The ‘smoking gun’ proving North Carolina Republicans tried to disenfranchise black voters


*snip*

One of the most comprehensive studies on the subject found only 31 individual cases of voter impersonation out of more than 1 billion votes cast in the United States since the year 2000. Researchers have found that reports of voter fraud are roughly as common as reports of alien abduction.

The federal court in Richmond found that the primary purpose of North Carolina's wasn't to stop voter fraud, but rather to disenfranchise minority voters. The judges found that the provisions "target African Americans with almost surgical precision."

In particular, the court found that North Carolina lawmakers requested data on racial differences in voting behaviors in the state. "This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.

So the legislators made it so that the only acceptable forms of voter identification were the ones disproportionately used by white people. "With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans," the judges wrote. "The bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess."

The data also showed that black voters were more likely to make use of early voting — particularly the first seven days out of North Carolina's 17-day voting period. So lawmakers eliminated these seven days of voting. "After receipt of this racial data, the General Assembly amended the bill to eliminate the first week of early voting, shortening the total early voting period from seventeen to ten days," the court found.

Most strikingly, the judges point to a "smoking gun" in North Carolina's justification for the law, proving discriminatory intent. The state argued in court that "counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black" and "disproportionately Democratic," and said it did away with Sunday voting as a result.

"Thus, in what comes as close to a smoking gun as we are likely to see in modern times, the State’s very justification for a challenged statute hinges explicitly on race — specifically its concern that African Americans, who had overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, had too much access to the franchise," the judges write in their decision.

This is about as clear-cut an indictment of the discriminatory underpinnings of voter-ID laws as you'll find anywhere. Studies have already shown a significant link between support for voter ID and racial discrimination, among both lawmakers and white voters in general.

"Faced with this record," the federal court concludes, "we can only conclude that the North Carolina General Assembly enacted the challenged provisions of the law with discriminatory intent."

You needed photo ID to be a delegate at the Democrat Convention. Fucking racists.