The Silliness of the MAGA Arguments

[candycorn]

Long game. Maybe not this election, but certainly shortly after.

All these people will eventually be citizens, if these amnesty or “pathway to citizenship” measures pass, maybe sooner than we think.

Until that time, they make a case for more representatives due to higher census numbers.

Ahh so now it’s a diabolical multi generational play by the democrats.

You guys are too much.

So why do you think they are hatching your cockamamie scheme in a place like Colorado and Indiana instead of Texas and Florida where they could get more electoral votes? It doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense (then again, your explanation makes no sense either).

 

[ThisIsMe]

They will be citizens eventually. Just like Reagan did. But defending the cheap labor for the short term gains is more important to many.

I’m not defending cheap labor. I’m saying, we already have a pathway to citizenship. We’ve had one for a long time now. You apply, go through the process and eventually get your citizenship, congrats, you are an American.

Why do we now need a “pathway to citizenship” when we already have one?

This is a vote scheme, it’s just the long run scheme, it won’t happen overnight, but eventually, maybe in a few years, all these tens of millions of people will be voters, and I’m sure the dems will make sure to not let them forget who made it possible for them.

 

[candycorn]

Maybe eventually... maybe not.

Wow...some plan the democrats had if the results are forecasted to have the same probability as a coin flip.

California use to be a red state.

Gee whiz? Really? When was that? Oh you mean when Reagan and Nixon were relevant... What state were they from again?

 

[bendog]

They will be citizens eventually. Just like Reagan did. But defending the cheap labor for the short term gains is more important to many.

but I question whether we EVER paid immigrants a liveable wage until their kids matriculated into skilled workers.

It should not surprise anyone that trump dislikes anyone who has darker skin than Melania. But aside from blacks, race or ethnicity is not a factor in voting.

 

[Hollie]

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

Matthew 25:40

Preach to the parents of Laken Riley.

"Shirley, whatever your criminal illegals did to one of the least of these US citizens, you did for Biden - Harris.’

Matthew 25:40a

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Kammy dumps 5,000 illegal Haitians on Indiana village of 18,000 americans

Section 1324 title 8 says it's a federal felony to encourage illegals to live her. That means they get nothing - no welfare or jobs or even housing. ENFORCE THAT LAW. oct 10 2024 A small rural Indiana town is overwhelmed after an estimated 5,000 Haitian illegals came in thanks to Joe Biden and...

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First Springfield, Then Charleroi, Now Illegal Alien Invasion Swamps This Small Indiana Town

And Harris-Walz have plans for YOUR hometown if elected. How van anyone not see the evil of this Harris-Biden policy? Do you so hate America that you will vote for more, much more, of this? First, Springfield, Ohio, then Charleroi, Pennsylvania, and now Logansport, Indiana—these small towns...

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Okay, so supposedly the Biden administration (or Harris administration if you will) has dumped “5,000 illegals” on a town of 18,000. If illegals are being brought here to vote...the democrats should win that county (and likely the congressional district it is in) easy, right?

We’ll see on election night how the county goes. If it doesn’t go to the Democrats, clearly this will invalidate all of these crazy claims from MAGA dolts.

You’re only looking at this from votes.

The infrastructure of the community and the harm such dumps cause is what’s wrong.

Why don’t you have 10,000 illegals get dumped on your town and see what happens to many locals

 

[westwall]

So let me get this straight…you’re saying that just because they aren’t voting, it’s okay to dump 5000 third world refugees onto a small town?

Cornholio is that special kind of stupid this corrupt administration is so desperate for.

 

[candycorn]

You’re only looking at this from votes.

Because you guys make the argument that democrats import illegal immigrants to cast votes. You know it’s bullshit but this is the argument you guys make. But since you made this claim prior to the election, it is an easy expirment to see how it goes. If the county flips blue, you may be on to something. If not...well...it’s just more proof that you guys are lying your ass off--again.
If they are illegal (as you falsely claim), why isnt’ anyone calling the police on them?

While we’re on the subject, why aren’t you? The sheriff of the county is a Republican.

Why the apathy?

 

[pknopp]

Are you going to use the Bible to make a case for open borders?

I'd prefer we quit undercutting the economies of the people who have to then flee, but then that's doesn't seem to be up to me.

How Sanctions Contributed to Venezuela’s Economic Collapse

 

[pknopp]

I’m not defending cheap labor.

Well good but mine was more of a general statement.

I’m saying, we already have a pathway to citizenship. We’ve had one for a long time now. You apply, go through the process and eventually get your citizenship, congrats, you are an American.

But then they get a legal wage. That's not what employers who hire illegals are after.

Why do we now need a “pathway to citizenship” when we already have one?

This is a vote scheme, it’s just the long run scheme, it won’t happen overnight, but eventually, maybe in a few years, all these tens of millions of people will be voters, and I’m sure the dems will make sure to not let them forget who made it possible for them.

We could address why they come but won't. The rest doesn't really concern me much.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Ahh so now it’s a diabolical multi generational play by the democrats.

You guys are too much.

So why do you think they are hatching your cockamamie scheme in a place like Colorado and Indiana instead of Texas and Florida where they could get more electoral votes? It doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense (then again, your explanation makes no sense either).

I wouldn’t say generational…I expect if dems win and get full control of the house and senate, they might push for an amnesty package. This could happen in a few years.


They ARE going to Texas and Florida. Those two states are among the largest in illegal immigrant growth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/interactive/2024/us-immigration-where-migrants-live/

Some of the biggest growth areas are in Florida and Texas, where the immigrant population continues to expand thanks to plentiful jobs and cheaper housing

Still, where they are NOW is not where they will end up. Again, long game. Once they are granted citizenship, there’s no telling where they might end up

 

[pknopp]

but I question whether we EVER paid immigrants a liveable wage until their kids matriculated into skilled workers.

Yeah, I don't know I suppose.

It should not surprise anyone that trump dislikes anyone who has darker skin than Melania. But aside from blacks, race or ethnicity is not a factor in voting.

Trump doesn't like anyone that doesn't think he is all that. I doubt he actually likes Melania all that much.

 

[pknopp]

Preach to the parents of Laken Riley.

"Shirley, whatever your criminal illegals did to one of the least of these US citizens, you did for Biden - Harris.’

Matthew 25:40a

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

Revelations 22 18:19

 

[Hollie]

Because you guys make the argument that democrats import illegal immigrants to cast votes. You know it’s bullshit but this is the argument you guys make. But since you made this claim prior to the election, it is an easy expirment to see how it goes. If the county flips blue, you may be on to something. If not...well...it’s just more proof that you guys are lying your ass off--again.

If they are illegal (as you falsely claim), why isnt’ anyone calling the police on them?

While we’re on the subject, why aren’t you? The sheriff of the county is a Republican.

Why the apathy?

Democrats have made the point that a "pathway to citizenship" is a goal. That pathway means a reliable, subservient voting block.

 

[Hollie]

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

Revelations 22 18:19

Take your street corner proselytizing / Bible thumping somewhere else.

The gods command you.

 

[22lcidw]

Do you think towns “ask” for things, stupid?

I would love it if the democrats were 1/1000th as devious as you imagine. They could sweep the Senate and the governor’s seats.

That they don’t is informative to those of us who have brains. For folks like you? I can’t imagine how you process facts since you create your own. Your post above proves it.

The cheating and the purposeful movement of prog citizens to red areas has guaranteed along with the 17th amendment many more Prog Senators than there should be. All of that freedom that started in the Northeast part of the nation is now trending Communist. The propaganda is endless and even those who vote Republican are wary of Trump and his twitter messages and comments taken out of context all the time. All of those little states add up to16 Progressive Socialist Communist Senators or so.

 

[bendog]

Yeah, I don't know I suppose.




Trump doesn't like anyone that doesn't think he is all that. I doubt he actually likes Melania all that much.

my ancestors who immigrated from ireland and germany were not paid a liveable wage. The kids all went to work. I'm third generation and we were the first to go to college. And even the second generation became Reaganites.

I'm still not sure why the fuck we let in the folks from Somalia. I just don't see the shared values there, but then the book and movie black hawk down sort of soured me. (-: But, anybody who comes from a judeo-xian background and who wants to assimilate will most likely give birth to right of center capitalists.

 

[bendog]

The cheating and the purposeful movement of prog citizens to red areas has guaranteed along with the 17th amendment many more Prog Senators than there should be. All of that freedom that started in the Northeast part of the nation is now trending Communist. The propaganda is endless and even those who vote Republican are wary of Trump and his twitter messages and comments taken out of context all the time. All of those little states add up to16 Progressive Socialist Communist Senators or so.

but that's a seperate question. I'm all for a federal law against vote harvesting. But if the gop saw a strategic advantage, they'd be all after it too. It has nothing to do with immigration. Unless you don't want anyone to immigrate, in which case the econ would fail without .... cheap workers.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I'd prefer we quit undercutting the economies of the people who have to then flee, but then that's doesn't seem to be up to me.

How Sanctions Contributed to Venezuela’s Economic Collapse

that would be great, but sanctions are a thing that happens all the time when a country isn’t playing by the rules.

 

[pknopp]

that would be great, but sanctions are a thing that happens all the time when a country isn’t playing by the rules.

Rules that really aren't ours to make. We now live with the outcome of those actions.