The Schools Cannot Be Saved....They Must Be Destroyed

[dblack]

Because of radical infestation…

Public education was a mistake. It's always been a tool for indoctrination, and now that the two-party death spiral has done its job and split us into warring factions, the schools are a prime battleground. Close them all.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Public education was a mistake. It's always been a tool for indoctrination, and now that the two-party death spiral has done its job and split us into warring factions, the schools are a prime battleground. Close them all.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I guess your education has a huge mistake because you are a terminal dumbass!

 

[dblack]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I guess your education has a huge mistake because you are a terminal dumbass!

"Good answer, good answer!"

 

[Frankeneinstein]

God forbid all kids have is “Home Skool”

Look at me, I is a Teecher!

as opposed to the grammatically correct Public Skool PC

"don't chew eyeball me" "I be a teecher"

 

[iansolyn]

I think that the transition to homeschooling is a bad option because firstly not all families have time to teach, and secondly, they do not have professional teaching skills, which can have a very bad effect on the child's learning. I'm talking about a complete transition to homeschooling, so you don't need to cite isolated cases of success of this system and claim that it is better.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think that the transition to homeschooling is a bad option because firstly not all families have time to teach, and secondly, they do not have professional teaching skills, which can have a very bad effect on the child's learning. I'm talking about a complete transition to homeschooling, so you don't need to cite isolated cases of success of this system and claim that it is better.

Home schooling today uses internet sources such as K12.com

Look into it.

 

[BS Filter]

Here's another bad school.

Georgia mom and substitute teacher files lawsuit after being fired over religious beliefs

Lindsey Barr spoke out about the books her children were being read in the school library, and said she was fired because of it. Now she is suing.

www.foxnews.com

 

[ChemEngineer]

I think that the transition to homeschooling is a bad option because firstly not all families have time to teach, and secondly, they do not have professional teaching skills, which can have a very bad effect on the child's learning. I'm talking about a complete transition to homeschooling, so you don't need to cite isolated cases of success of this system and claim that it is better.

And you think teachers have these "professional teaching skills" that they demonstrate, lecturing on the nuances of fisting, transgender mental illness, rimming, teaching that America is systemically racist and evil? These are "professional teaching skills" are they?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And you think teachers have these "professional teaching skills" that they demonstrate, lecturing on the nuances of fisting, transgender mental illness, rimming, teaching that America is systemically racist and evil? These are "professional teaching skills" are they?

Oh, STFU! 99.999% of teachers do no such thing! If you would lay off the drugs, you might get a clearer picture of reality, dumbass! Put the GD broad brush away and go into your local school and see what is going on.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And you think teachers have these "professional teaching skills" that they demonstrate, lecturing on the nuances of fisting, transgender mental illness, rimming, teaching that America is systemically racist and evil? These are "professional teaching skills" are they?

. There is no convincing evidence that certified teachers are more effective in the classroom or that ed-school-based training helps. Education Schools Project

See http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dstaiger/Papers/nyc fellows march 2006.pdf for evidence that certification has very little effect on student achievement.

“…private schools appear to do fine- perhaps better-without being compelled to hire state certified teachers.” Chester Finn, “Troublemaker,” p. 283.




The American Board for Certification of Teacher Excellence proposed the following requirements alone for a teaching license: graduate college, pass a criminal background check, and a rigorous test of knowledge of their subject.

Why has American tripled its teaching force instead of paying more to fewer but superior instructors?

The seductiveness of smaller classes.

Institutional interests profit from a larger teaching force: unions, colleges, certain political parties.

Societal, legal and political forces press schools to treat children differently, resulting in various sets of classes, especially ‘special ed.’

 

[ChemEngineer]

. There is no convincing evidence that certified teachers are more effective in the classroom or that ed-school-based training helps. Education Schools Project

See http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dstaiger/Papers/nyc fellows march 2006.pdf for evidence that certification has very little effect on student achievement.

Outdated Dartmouth link.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Outdated Dartmouth link.

The facts are not outdated.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Outdated Dartmouth link.

Google search of "Teacher certification has very little effect on student achievement" provides tons of articles.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is what we find in teacher college:


"Pedagogy of the Oppressor

Another reason why U.S. ed schools are so awful: the ongoing influence of Brazilian Marxist Paulo Freire

Pedagogy of the Oppressor

1. At a recent meeting of the New York Teaching Fellows program (“Teach for America”: provides an alternate route to state certification for about 1,700 new teachers annually) , Sol Stern found the one book that the fellows had to read in full was Pedagogy of the Oppressed, by the Brazilian educator Paulo Freire.

This book has achieved near-iconic status in America’s teacher-training programs. In 2003, David Steiner and Susan Rozen published a study examining the curricula of 16 schools of education—14 of them among the top-ranked institutions in the country, according to U.S. News and World Report—and found that Pedagogy of the Oppressed was one of the most frequently assigned texts in their philosophy of education courses.

1. But rather than dealing with the education of children, Pedagogy of the Oppressed mentions none of the issues that troubled education reformers throughout the twentieth century: testing, standards, curriculum, the role of parents, how to organize schools, what subjects should be taught in various grades, how best to train teachers, the most effective way of teaching disadvantaged students. This ed-school bestseller is, instead, a utopian political tract calling for the overthrow of capitalist hegemony and the creation of classless societies.
2. Freire isn’t interested in the Western tradition’s leading education thinkers—not Rousseau, not Piaget, not John Dewey, not Horace Mann, not Maria Montessori. He cites a rather different set of figures: Marx, Lenin, Mao, Che Guevara, and Fidel Castro, as well as the radical intellectuals Frantz Fanon, Régis Debray, Herbert Marcuse, Jean-Paul Sartre, Louis Althusser, and Georg Lukács. And no wonder, since Freire’s main idea is that the central contradiction of every society is between the “oppressors” and the “oppressed” and that revolution should resolve their conflict. The “oppressed” are, moreover, destined to develop a “pedagogy” that leads them to their own liberation.
3. Freire never intends “pedagogy” to refer to any method of classroom instruction based on analysis and research, or to any means of producing higher academic achievement for students. [H]e relies on Marx’s standard formulation that “the class struggle necessarily leads to the dictatorship of the proletariat [and] this dictatorship only constitutes the transition to the abolition of all classes and to a classless society.” In one footnote, however, Freire does mention a society that has actually realized the “permanent liberation” he seeks: it “appears to be the fundamental aspect of Mao’s Cultural Revolution.”
4. The pedagogical point of Freire’s thesis : its opposition to taxing students with any actual academic content, which Freire derides as “official knowledge” that serves to rationalize inequality within capitalist society. One of Freire’s most widely quoted metaphors dismisses teacher-directed instruction as a misguided “banking concept,” in which “the scope of action allowed to the students extends only as far as receiving, filing and storing the deposits.” Freire proposes instead that teachers partner with their coequals, the students, in a “dialogic” and “problem-solving” process until the roles of teacher and student merge into “teacher-students” and “student-teachers.”

This is the eulogy for the death of education.

 

[iansolyn]

And you think teachers have these "professional teaching skills" that they demonstrate, lecturing on the nuances of fisting, transgender mental illness, rimming, teaching that America is systemically racist and evil? These are "professional teaching skills" are they?

They have these professional qualities, and complaints about what is taught in schools should be addressed to the Ministry of Education, not to the teachers themselves. I think a lot of them don't really want to talk about the gender variety.

 

[otto105]

This is what we find in teacher college:


"Pedagogy of the Oppressor

Another reason why U.S. ed schools are so awful: the ongoing influence of Brazilian Marxist Paulo Freire

Pedagogy of the Oppressor

1. At a recent meeting of the New York Teaching Fellows program (“Teach for America”: provides an alternate route to state certification for about 1,700 new teachers annually) , Sol Stern found the one book that the fellows had to read in full was Pedagogy of the Oppressed, by the Brazilian educator Paulo Freire.

This book has achieved near-iconic status in America’s teacher-training programs. In 2003, David Steiner and Susan Rozen published a study examining the curricula of 16 schools of education—14 of them among the top-ranked institutions in the country, according to U.S. News and World Report—and found that Pedagogy of the Oppressed was one of the most frequently assigned texts in their philosophy of education courses.

1. But rather than dealing with the education of children, Pedagogy of the Oppressed mentions none of the issues that troubled education reformers throughout the twentieth century: testing, standards, curriculum, the role of parents, how to organize schools, what subjects should be taught in various grades, how best to train teachers, the most effective way of teaching disadvantaged students. This ed-school bestseller is, instead, a utopian political tract calling for the overthrow of capitalist hegemony and the creation of classless societies.
2. Freire isn’t interested in the Western tradition’s leading education thinkers—not Rousseau, not Piaget, not John Dewey, not Horace Mann, not Maria Montessori. He cites a rather different set of figures: Marx, Lenin, Mao, Che Guevara, and Fidel Castro, as well as the radical intellectuals Frantz Fanon, Régis Debray, Herbert Marcuse, Jean-Paul Sartre, Louis Althusser, and Georg Lukács. And no wonder, since Freire’s main idea is that the central contradiction of every society is between the “oppressors” and the “oppressed” and that revolution should resolve their conflict. The “oppressed” are, moreover, destined to develop a “pedagogy” that leads them to their own liberation.
3. Freire never intends “pedagogy” to refer to any method of classroom instruction based on analysis and research, or to any means of producing higher academic achievement for students. [H]e relies on Marx’s standard formulation that “the class struggle necessarily leads to the dictatorship of the proletariat [and] this dictatorship only constitutes the transition to the abolition of all classes and to a classless society.” In one footnote, however, Freire does mention a society that has actually realized the “permanent liberation” he seeks: it “appears to be the fundamental aspect of Mao’s Cultural Revolution.”
4. The pedagogical point of Freire’s thesis : its opposition to taxing students with any actual academic content, which Freire derides as “official knowledge” that serves to rationalize inequality within capitalist society. One of Freire’s most widely quoted metaphors dismisses teacher-directed instruction as a misguided “banking concept,” in which “the scope of action allowed to the students extends only as far as receiving, filing and storing the deposits.” Freire proposes instead that teachers partner with their coequals, the students, in a “dialogic” and “problem-solving” process until the roles of teacher and student merge into “teacher-students” and “student-teachers.”

This is the eulogy for the death of education.

In Soviet Russia, you close to being drafted.

 

[iansolyn]

In Soviet Russia, you close to being drafted.

What does this have to do with Soviet Russia?

 

[otto105]

What does this have to do with Soviet Russia?

Everything