The Schadenfreude Thread

[theHawk]

In 2008 the regressives here told us that the Republican Party was dead.

What happened guys?

Who made that claim back in 2008? Name names.

The typical USMB Assclown Brigade members like Oreo and guano parroted that message for years.

And who can forget this doozy by rightwinger:
The next Republican President hasn't been born yet

 

[flacaltenn]

Liberals will be okay. Morons like yourself will never realize it but even conservatism is largely based on liberal values. Is anyone talking about getting rid of social security? Unemployment insurance? Basic services? No.

Liberals will be fine. Meanwhile, you're stuck...with yourself. Poor PC.

And additionally, what POTUS apologists don't get, and probably never will, is that the Republican party is not conservative anymore.

BOTH parties are rudderless and without principles. It's this simple. It's become all about POWER to run the megalith Fed Govt and preserving power once you're in. There are NO NONE NADA Independent voices in Congress anymore. The parties have locked up Capitol Hill in a set of rules that ANOINTED the 4 bosses as the only folks who matter.

So for P-Chic, poking at the eyes of the OTHER sad warring tribe is just futile really. Because it's like pirates on 2 burning sinking ships fighting over the loot in the middle of raging storm. It's all headed to Davy Jones Locker and I HOPE both parties go down poking out eyes.

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"... is just futile really."


Seems you missed the last election.

You just made his point. Bravo...

Try to articulate the point you are trying to make.....


....and I'll shred it.

lemme help since I started this. There's a TRAJECTORY of dysfunction in this country. I trace it back to the post election conflict in 2000. The 2 parties are BOTH locked in a death match. And it IS FUTILE to ride either of the monsters down to Davy Jones along with honesty, civility, and respect. The parties can offer the shittiest of choices out of nearly 200Mill potential candidates because the parties only want "winners". And the party voters will ONLY "vote for winners". But the big secret in American democracy such as it is -- is that at the END of every national election about 65% to 70% of the eligible voters are losers. You have the 46 or 47% of the LOSING tribe and at LEAST half of the disenfranchised Big Middle who usually don't vote because they HATE the ballot and the party circus.

Only thing Trump (and Bernie did) was to show the country HOW VULNERABLE and fragile both parties and their "election machine" of polling, money, focus groups really are. He PIRATED the party. Hillary BOUGHT hers. She spent freight trains of cash on focus groups, polliing, Soc media "likes", advertising and fake Russian dossiers on Trump. He did NONE of that.

I suggest you're a bit too cocky choosing Godzilla over Megasaurus. Because nobody likes giant city crushing monsters of ANY kind. And the Big Middle is just cheering for different kind of movies. And from 2016 onwards -- it's THEY that are determining the national races.

You better get with the program..

 

[candycorn]

lemme help since I started this. There's a TRAJECTORY of dysfunction in this country. I trace it back to the post election conflict in 2000. The 2 parties are BOTH locked in a death match. And it IS FUTILE to ride either of the monsters down to Davy Jones along with honesty, civility, and respect. The parties can offer the shittiest of choices out of nearly 200Mill potential candidates because the parties only want "winners". And the party voters will ONLY "vote for winners". But the big secret in American democracy such as it is -- is that at the END of every national election about 65% to 70% of the eligible voters are losers. You have the 46 or 47% of the LOSING tribe and at LEAST half of the disenfranchised Big Middle who usually don't vote because they HATE the ballot and the party circus.

Only thing Trump (and Bernie did) was to show the country HOW VULNERABLE and fragile both parties and their "election machine" of polling, money, focus groups really are. He PIRATED the party. Hillary BOUGHT hers. She spent freight trains of cash on focus groups, polliing, Soc media "likes", advertising and fake Russian dossiers on Trump. He did NONE of that.

I suggest you're a bit too cocky choosing Godzilla over Megasaurus. Because nobody likes giant city crushing monsters of ANY kind. And the Big Middle is just cheering for different kind of movies. And from 2016 onwards -- it's THEY that are determining the national races.

You better get with the program..

I don't agree with much of what you said there but I think we've been over that before.

What needs to be emphasized is the long-term damage the atmosphere is doing. Someone would have to be crazy to run for public office in this atmosphere unless they are so power hungry that the voters should take that into account too and hold it against them. Your kids at school are now a target, your spouse is a target, your 3rd grade teacher is questioned about your moral character as an adult.... I shudder to think how many of our best and brightest have taken one look at the character assassinations that go on and decide to stay in the private sector.

If they do decide to run, they are quickly shoe-horned into either being a supporter of Nancy Pelosi or a supporter of Donald Trump; it's almost as cartoonish as the old memes of an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other (pick your angel/devil) and the person in the middle only has a choice between the two. Most people are purple and their thoughts are in those gray areas between policies and people

 

[flacaltenn]

Someone would have to be crazy to run for public office in this atmosphere unless they are so power hungry that the voters should take that into account too and hold it against them. Your kids at school are now a target, your spouse is a target, your 3rd grade teacher is questioned about your moral character as an adult.... I shudder to think how many of our best and brightest have taken one look at the character assassinations that go on and decide to stay in the private sector.

You say you don't agree with me -- but you just did. From our previous convos I would suspect the disagreement is about "money in politics" and the Indies calling the elections and focus group testing and polling is so last century kind of disagreements. But fact -- our political has been jacked by 2 Brand Name parties and they are stifling civil discussion and progress on EVERY issue. And it's taken our valued media complex as a willing host and is currently sucking the integrity and the principles right out of the corpse.

So eventually, there's gonna be smoking ruins and a new beginning. Because if a fuzzy headed deep fried socialist from Queens can CRUSH a Party incumbent when he OUTSPENT her 10 to 1 and all she's offering is glitter and Christmas every day --- it's about time for the Party Show to wind down. WHY did the powerful incumbent LOSE? Because the moron was SO damn arrogant and SO confident in the Party power behind him that he sent SURROGATES to the scheduled public debates. It's that arrogance that fairly damn well matches the much maligned arrogance and meglomania of Donald Trump (or Hillary) for that matter.

Won't be hard to euthanize those nasty beasts. Won't TAKE a lot of money or ads or buying social media spying intel..

If they do decide to run, they are quickly shoe-horned into either being a supporter of Nancy Pelosi or a supporter of Donald Trump; it's almost as cartoonish as the old memes of an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other (pick your angel/devil) and the person in the middle only has a choice between the two. Most people are purple and their thoughts are in those gray areas between policies and people

So where the hell is the "disagreement" Miss Candy?

 

[candycorn]

Someone would have to be crazy to run for public office in this atmosphere unless they are so power hungry that the voters should take that into account too and hold it against them. Your kids at school are now a target, your spouse is a target, your 3rd grade teacher is questioned about your moral character as an adult.... I shudder to think how many of our best and brightest have taken one look at the character assassinations that go on and decide to stay in the private sector.

You say you don't agree with me -- but you just did. From our previous convos I would suspect the disagreement is about "money in politics" and the Indies calling the elections and focus group testing and polling is so last century kind of disagreements. But fact -- our political has been jacked by 2 Brand Name parties and they are stifling civil discussion and progress on EVERY issue. And it's taken our valued media complex as a willing host and is currently sucking the integrity and the principles right out of the corpse.

So eventually, there's gonna be smoking ruins and a new beginning. Because if a fuzzy headed deep fried socialist from Queens can CRUSH a Party incumbent when he OUTSPENT her 10 to 1 and all she's offering is glitter and Christmas every day --- it's about time for the Party Show to wind down. WHY did the powerful incumbent LOSE? Because the moron was SO damn arrogant and SO confident in the Party power behind him that he sent SURROGATES to the scheduled public debates. It's that arrogance that fairly damn well matches the much maligned arrogance and meglomania of Donald Trump (or Hillary) for that matter.

Won't be hard to euthanize those nasty beasts. Won't TAKE a lot of money or ads or buying social media spying intel..

If they do decide to run, they are quickly shoe-horned into either being a supporter of Nancy Pelosi or a supporter of Donald Trump; it's almost as cartoonish as the old memes of an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other (pick your angel/devil) and the person in the middle only has a choice between the two. Most people are purple and their thoughts are in those gray areas between policies and people

So where the hell is the "disagreement" Miss Candy?

Disagreement...Over the "meaning" of the 2016 election. Trump got free media by being outrageous. Had he been a conventional candidate with the same radical views, he would have been laughed at much the same way Ron Paul was with his radical views.

Yours is either an ignorant or possibly non comprehensive view of the electorate (talking about your views; not you personally). The only party to hold the oval for 3 terms during most of our lifetimes was the Republicans in 1988 with Bush I who had 3 things going for him; he was attached to possibly the most popular President in the last 50 years, he was exceptionally well qualified, and he was running against possibly the worst campaigner in the history of modern politics in Michael Dukakis. Before Bush I, the only hold for more than 3 terms was FDR and Truman in 1948; 70 years ago. HRC wasn't supposed to do as well as she was doing in the polls. Had she campaigned more vigorously in PA, WI, and MI (where she lost 3 states/46 EVs by a combined total of less than 100,000 votes), she would in all likelihood be President now.

Time will tell if what you say is true or not; if we are now in an era where carnival barkers are thought to be just as qualified as former Secretaries of State and seasoned politicians simply by the virtue of their saying so. I hope not. It certainly isn't because the Left doesn't have it's share of flamboyant folks who would make interesting candidates. Just off the top of my head, Dwayne Johnson, Tom Hanks, George Clooney, Jon Stewart; or of a more libertarian bend, Adam Carolla and Bill Maher...

Politics is a profession. It is best left to the professionals. As we embrace those who have nukes pointed at our nation and castigate those who are our friends, this fact has never been more apparent.

 

[Rustic]

The announcement that Justice Kennedy was retiring produced a volcanic reaction second only to that of November 8, 2016.

The great Yogi was correct...
“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

...and, I'm not often counting my chickens before they hatch....

But it sure does look like there will be a conservative court decades into the future.





Now, for more sticking my finger in the Liberal eye....

1. "What a letdown – you libs were totally promised that you and your elite cohort would rule forever, unchallenged, over the filthy hordes infesting America’s non-coastal regions, and then all of a sudden those nasty Normals got militant and elected Donald Trump. It’s not fair, damnit! And it just gets worse and worse as things in America, under Trump, get better and better.

2. This prosperity and this relative peace are the worst things ever. Well, for you liberals.

3. ...Bill Maher pining for a recession, apparently so Trump will somehow get tossed out of office to make room for some liberal to come in and …

4. ...there’s Nancy Pelosi, fresh from bathing in a tub of 100-dollar bills, complaining that more cash in your pocket is a bad thing because it means she can’t spend it the way she chooses – and she chooses to spend it on greedy foreigners, lay-about bums, and other Democrat constituencies.


5. Their anger is a giveaway. In poker, it’s called a “tell.” A tell is a little thing a player does that gives away the hand he’s holding. Liberals’ tell is how they constantly bemoan success, and what their tell tells us is that they are eager to trade our prosperity for their power.



6. Never have so many been so angry about so little bad news."
Kurt Schlichter - It Is Terrible To Be A Liberal In 2018 – Which Is Awesome

Progressivism is born in failure

 

[Marion Morrison]

 

[flacaltenn]

Disagreement...Over the "meaning" of the 2016 election. Trump got free media by being outrageous. Had he been a conventional candidate with the same radical views, he would have been laughed at much the same way Ron Paul was with his radical views.

We haven't coped with outrageous Presidents in the past 150 years? LOL.. Need me to list them? Starting with say Andrew Jackson? Now if Gary Johnson had followed my suggestions and HANG GLIDED into a few events or ran and participated in a celebrity triathalon or mountain climbling fund raiser -- his message would have gotten out also on the cheap. Trump KNOWS the media. He used them. Anyone ELSE now can figure out similar and hopefully LESS offensive ways to be outrageous and not throw money at campaigns.

Politics is a profession. It is best left to the professionals. As we embrace those who have nukes pointed at our nation and castigate those who are our friends, this fact has never been more apparent.

I'm afraid the signs are already there. Like the buggy whip industry, that massive sector of analysts, consultants, fixers and fluffers are last century relics. I just gave you the 28 something year old in Queens example. Told you how the ARROGANCE of power killed the powerful incumbent with all the muscle and money. And there are at LEAST a dozen more that happened during 2016 oi between then and now just like that.

Politicians generally are poor at business practices of cash preservation. It's not theirs and they don't care about shoveling it out superfluously.

The Big Middle is at 44%. At the rate the numbers are going and the daily displays of arrogance, incompetence, and hysteria and constant outrage -- I'm figuring that Big Middle is gonna be bigger than BOTH of the atrophying Brand Name parties certainly by 2020 if not sooner. And there WILL be heroes that run as true independents and they will be capable of winning even with the rules stacked against them..

 

[candycorn]

Disagreement...Over the "meaning" of the 2016 election. Trump got free media by being outrageous. Had he been a conventional candidate with the same radical views, he would have been laughed at much the same way Ron Paul was with his radical views.

We haven't coped with outrageous Presidents in the past 150 years? LOL.. Need me to list them? Starting with say Andrew Jackson? Now if Gary Johnson had followed my suggestions and HANG GLIDED into a few events or ran and participated in a celebrity triathalon or mountain climbling fund raiser -- his message would have gotten out also on the cheap.

Doubtful. He wouldn't have a chance to win so he wouldn't get any play; just like Ron Paul

Andrew Jackson? The 7th President...hardly relevant to 2018 politics.

Trump KNOWS the media. He used them. Anyone ELSE now can figure out similar and hopefully LESS offensive ways to be outrageous and not throw money at campaigns.

Again, we'll see what the future holds.

Politics is a profession. It is best left to the professionals. As we embrace those who have nukes pointed at our nation and castigate those who are our friends, this fact has never been more apparent.

I'm afraid the signs are already there. Like the buggy whip industry, that massive sector of analysts, consultants, fixers and fluffers are last century relics. I just gave you the 28 something year old in Queens example. Told you how the ARROGANCE of power killed the powerful incumbent with all the muscle and money. And there are at LEAST a dozen more that happened during 2016 oi between then and now just like that.

Politicians generally are poor at business practices of cash preservation. It's not theirs and they don't care about shoveling it out superfluously.

You may be right. Time will tell.

The Big Middle is at 44%. At the rate the numbers are going and the daily displays of arrogance, incompetence, and hysteria and constant outrage -- I'm figuring that Big Middle is gonna be bigger than BOTH of the atrophying Brand Name parties certainly by 2020 if not sooner. And there WILL be heroes that run as true independents and they will be capable of winning even with the rules stacked against them..

Ok.

As long as they are serious politicians who propose sound policies, great.

 

[Rustic]

Someone would have to be crazy to run for public office in this atmosphere unless they are so power hungry that the voters should take that into account too and hold it against them. Your kids at school are now a target, your spouse is a target, your 3rd grade teacher is questioned about your moral character as an adult.... I shudder to think how many of our best and brightest have taken one look at the character assassinations that go on and decide to stay in the private sector.

You say you don't agree with me -- but you just did. From our previous convos I would suspect the disagreement is about "money in politics" and the Indies calling the elections and focus group testing and polling is so last century kind of disagreements. But fact -- our political has been jacked by 2 Brand Name parties and they are stifling civil discussion and progress on EVERY issue. And it's taken our valued media complex as a willing host and is currently sucking the integrity and the principles right out of the corpse.

So eventually, there's gonna be smoking ruins and a new beginning. Because if a fuzzy headed deep fried socialist from Queens can CRUSH a Party incumbent when he OUTSPENT her 10 to 1 and all she's offering is glitter and Christmas every day --- it's about time for the Party Show to wind down. WHY did the powerful incumbent LOSE? Because the moron was SO damn arrogant and SO confident in the Party power behind him that he sent SURROGATES to the scheduled public debates. It's that arrogance that fairly damn well matches the much maligned arrogance and meglomania of Donald Trump (or Hillary) for that matter.

Won't be hard to euthanize those nasty beasts. Won't TAKE a lot of money or ads or buying social media spying intel..

If they do decide to run, they are quickly shoe-horned into either being a supporter of Nancy Pelosi or a supporter of Donald Trump; it's almost as cartoonish as the old memes of an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other (pick your angel/devil) and the person in the middle only has a choice between the two. Most people are purple and their thoughts are in those gray areas between policies and people

So where the hell is the "disagreement" Miss Candy?

Disagreement...Over the "meaning" of the 2016 election. Trump got free media by being outrageous. Had he been a conventional candidate with the same radical views, he would have been laughed at much the same way Ron Paul was with his radical views.

Yours is either an ignorant or possibly non comprehensive view of the electorate (talking about your views; not you personally). The only party to hold the oval for 3 terms during most of our lifetimes was the Republicans in 1988 with Bush I who had 3 things going for him; he was attached to possibly the most popular President in the last 50 years, he was exceptionally well qualified, and he was running against possibly the worst campaigner in the history of modern politics in Michael Dukakis. Before Bush I, the only hold for more than 3 terms was FDR and Truman in 1948; 70 years ago. HRC wasn't supposed to do as well as she was doing in the polls. Had she campaigned more vigorously in PA, WI, and MI (where she lost 3 states/46 EVs by a combined total of less than 100,000 votes), she would in all likelihood be President now.

Time will tell if what you say is true or not; if we are now in an era where carnival barkers are thought to be just as qualified as former Secretaries of State and seasoned politicians simply by the virtue of their saying so. I hope not. It certainly isn't because the Left doesn't have it's share of flamboyant folks who would make interesting candidates. Just off the top of my head, Dwayne Johnson, Tom Hanks, George Clooney, Jon Stewart; or of a more libertarian bend, Adam Carolla and Bill Maher...

Politics is a profession. It is best left to the professionals. As we embrace those who have nukes pointed at our nation and castigate those who are our friends, this fact has never been more apparent.

Lol
Thank God for the electoral college, elections have consequences you fucking retard

 

[Rustic]

Yep, if Hitler was still alive he would most certainly be a progressive socialist... fact

 

[Marion Morrison]

 

[Marion Morrison]

Look at these nutbars:

 

[Marion Morrison]

 

[Marion Morrison]

 

[Marion Morrison]

Hahahahhahhahahah! Yeah dumbasses, insulting people is reallllllly gonna bring them around to your point of view. This is a classic!

 

[PoliticalChic]

And additionally, what POTUS apologists don't get, and probably never will, is that the Republican party is not conservative anymore.

BOTH parties are rudderless and without principles. It's this simple. It's become all about POWER to run the megalith Fed Govt and preserving power once you're in. There are NO NONE NADA Independent voices in Congress anymore. The parties have locked up Capitol Hill in a set of rules that ANOINTED the 4 bosses as the only folks who matter.

So for P-Chic, poking at the eyes of the OTHER sad warring tribe is just futile really. Because it's like pirates on 2 burning sinking ships fighting over the loot in the middle of raging storm. It's all headed to Davy Jones Locker and I HOPE both parties go down poking out eyes.

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"... is just futile really."


Seems you missed the last election.

You just made his point. Bravo...

Try to articulate the point you are trying to make.....


....and I'll shred it.

lemme help since I started this. There's a TRAJECTORY of dysfunction in this country. I trace it back to the post election conflict in 2000. The 2 parties are BOTH locked in a death match. And it IS FUTILE to ride either of the monsters down to Davy Jones along with honesty, civility, and respect. The parties can offer the shittiest of choices out of nearly 200Mill potential candidates because the parties only want "winners". And the party voters will ONLY "vote for winners". But the big secret in American democracy such as it is -- is that at the END of every national election about 65% to 70% of the eligible voters are losers. You have the 46 or 47% of the LOSING tribe and at LEAST half of the disenfranchised Big Middle who usually don't vote because they HATE the ballot and the party circus.

Only thing Trump (and Bernie did) was to show the country HOW VULNERABLE and fragile both parties and their "election machine" of polling, money, focus groups really are. He PIRATED the party. Hillary BOUGHT hers. She spent freight trains of cash on focus groups, polliing, Soc media "likes", advertising and fake Russian dossiers on Trump. He did NONE of that.

I suggest you're a bit too cocky choosing Godzilla over Megasaurus. Because nobody likes giant city crushing monsters of ANY kind. And the Big Middle is just cheering for different kind of movies. And from 2016 onwards -- it's THEY that are determining the national races.

You better get with the program..

That's truly thoughtless nonsense, and it's based on the simplest fallacy, that of equivalency.


Clearly, voters understand the milieu far better than you do.

There are clear and evident reasons to vote one way over the other.
Here's a dozen reasons:


Most voted against the Democrats,
against the mess Hussein Obama made of the economy,
against the corruption we've witnessed for decades,
against awarding nuclear weapons to the 7th century savages,
against the anti-white bias of the Democrat Party,

against the flood of illegal immigrants who require welfare
against bringing millions of unvetted Muslim refugees from war-indoctrinated nations,
against redistribution of wealth,
against the failed Liberal welfare industry,
against being dictated to by the United Nothings,
against a failed Liberal education industry,
against $20 trillion national debt...

...and for the slim possibility of a rebirth of America.




"When secular leftists express frustration at how practicing Catholics (your humble servants) and evangelicals could ever vote for Donald Trump, the first thing they refuse to concede is the horror of the alternative.

They refuse to admit that Hillary Clinton clearly, forthrightly stood for abortion on demand, at any time, for any reason and even supported it having it funded by pro-life taxpayers. It’s what she and her husband called “safe, legal and rare.” Hillary and her crew even dismissed the videotaped baby-organ-selling grotesqueries of Planned Parenthood as somehow fictional. And they refuse to admit that Hillary Clinton represented the creeping extremism of the LGBT movement, with its emphasis on redesigning all the nation’s bathrooms, not to mention human nature."
Bozell & Graham Column: The Book Against Transgender Extremism

 

[PoliticalChic]

8.Speaking of the FBI – well, no one is speaking of the FBI. The leftist media saw to that with a coordinated response of utter outrage against the Trump administration for treating criminals like criminals.

Phew, that was close – we almost had to spend a few days talking about how simultaneously corrupt and inept the Democrats infesting the FBI and the DOJ are.



Still, if you’re a liberal, you not only have to have the major sadz because that sad-faced hack Bobbie the Beagle Mueller and his band of Democrat donors have found zero evidence of collusion. You have to be bummed that neither they nor all the lying sacks of Schiff in the deadwood fed bureaucracy can even manage to frame the president."
Kurt Schlichter - It Is Terrible To Be A Liberal In 2018 – Which Is Awesome



One can almost feel sorry for the sorry lot, Democrats/Liberals....



....I said 'almost.'