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The Right To Destroy Jewish History

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It is always amazing when anyone takes something that has nothing to do with the issue, like who the Akkadians were, and generalizes it to the point where one should think that .....yes, that is right!!!!

The Akkadian language has nothing to do with who they were, and they clearly did not speak Arabic. And that language did not evolve into Arabic, either.

There are different people living in Arabia, as there were different people living in Mesopotamia, or in Ancient Canaan, and those people continue to be distinct from each other, regardless of the fact that so many of them have had their identity disappear with time.

Akkadians were not Arabs, and cannot be forced to be.

They were still Arabs from the Arabian peninsula... Who do you think they were?
 
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They were still Arabs from the Arabian peninsula... Who do you think they were?
They did not think of themselves as Arabs. They were different from the Arabs as stated before and created an Empire which had nothing to do with Arabs or Arabic.

But you will forever insist that they were.

You rewrite their history, as much as Arabs now want to rewrite Jewish history.
 
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Right before Rosh Hashanah, the American Federation of Teachers in San Diego, Local 1931, issued an anti-Israel statement.

This statement is worth reading in full, because not only does it say that Jews have no right to self-determination, but it relies on lies in nearly every sentence to make that point.

Teachers who teach bigotry and lies would appear to be supremely unqualified to be teachers.

Here is the statement:

WHEREAS, the AFT Guild condemns the forced removal of Palestinian residents in West Jerusalem,
West Jerusalem? This must be talking about 1948, and Arabs in West Jerusalem were not forcibly removed from their homes.
the bombing of civilian areas in the besieged Gaza Strip,
Every target in the Gaza Strip, in every war, was pre-determined according to the laws of armed conflict to have been military targets. Every one.
and the continued human rights violations committed by the Israeli government during its 73-year occupation of this land.
By saying "73-year occupation" the statement says that all of Israel is "occupied." Even the UN doesn't make that claim. It is a statement not against occupation but against the very existence of a Jewish state and the concept of Jewish self-determination. It is pure antisemitism.
It is unfortunate that civilians on both sides have suffered casualties, yet Israel’s use of advanced weaponry in its indiscriminate bombing of the Gaza strip has claimed a significantly greater and disproportionate number of Palestinian lives and destroyed essential infrastructure in the already oppressed occupied territories.
Here the statement switches its definition of "occupied," showing that the teachers that drafted this statement are completely unconcerned with consistency, let alone truth.
The bombing of Gaza has never been indiscriminate, which can be proven by a modicum of research.
The statement evokes a violation of international law with its use of the term "disproportionate" but in fact Israeli actions are not in the least disproportionate, and no army in history has taken more care to protect the civilian population of an area where they are used as human shields by the enemy as Israel has.

WHEREAS, the recent forced removal of Palestinian civilians from homes they occupied in Shaikh Jarrah for generations follows a 73-year pattern of disenfranchising Palestinians of their rights, property and the opportunity to live with dignity.
The Palestinians who have fought a losing legal battle for homes they do not own have not been forcibly removed.
Since 1967, home demolitions, land confiscations, systemic denial of building permits, and massive illegal settlement building (a violation of Article 49 of the Geneva Convention) on virtually every part of the occupied Palestinian territories, have become official Israeli policy, despite repeated condemnation by the international community.
It would take multiple articles to show how many lies are in this sentence, but all of the things listed here have been approved by the Israeli High Court - not to mention many things that the Israeli legal system did not approve - and one would be hard pressed to find a sober legal analysis of their rulings finding that they violate international law.
Building settlements is not a violation of Article 49 of the Geneva Conventions. It says nothing about building on disputed land.

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The AFT, pretending to care about peace in the Middle East, accompanies its statement with a graphic of a raised fist - hardly the logo of someone who wants all peoples of the Middle East to live in peace and harmony.

Literally every paragraph and practically every sentence of this statement is a lie, and many of them are quite antisemitic. This is besides the fact that this statement gives a green light to attack Jewish teachers who believe that Israel has the right to exist in contradiction to the beliefs of the union. This statement chills free speech.

Teachers in San Diego are now open to being censured or attacked by their own union for telling the truth.

This is an outrageous litany of lies, supported by people who are supposed to care about the truth. It is a statement of bigotry written by those who are supposed to teach children to treat people equally. It is hypocrisy in its purest sense.

And every minute that this bigoted statement filled with falsehoods is not denounced by the national union of teachers, the lies and antisemitism are condoned by those who are teaching every American child.

(full article online)

 
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The Palestinian Authority unremittingly teaches Palestinians - and in particular youth - that all of Israel is “Palestine” and that Israel has no right to exist in any borders. One way the PA instills the message is through activities in summer camps arranged by the PLO Supreme Council for Youth and Sports.

This year too, Palestinian children were taught that there is no Israel but only “occupied Palestine” as they spent time drawing maps in which all of Israel and the PA areas are painted as one country and in the colors of the Palestinian flag.

The following are maps of “Palestine” made by or shown to children in the PA summer camps which are run by the PLO:

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A video showed drawings of the PA’s map that shows all of Israel and the PA areas as one “Palestine” made by children in PLO Supreme Council for Youth and Sports summer camps.

[Facebook page of the PLO Supreme Council for Youth and Sports, Aug. 19, 2021]

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Camp participants hold a drawing of the PA map of “Palestine” in the colors of the Palestinian flag. To the west of the map is written “The Mediterranean Sea,” to the north is written “Lebanon,” to the east is written “Jordan,” and to the south is written “The Gulf of Aqaba.”

[Facebook page of the PLO Supreme Council for Youth and Sports, Aug. 4, 2021]

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Camp participants have drawn the PA map of “Palestine.”

[Facebook page of the PLO Supreme Council for Youth and Sports, Aug. 7, 2021

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Ignoring thousands of years of history and countless artifacts, the Palestinian leadership lies to their own children about the facts regarding Jerusalem and the Jewish People’s profound connection to the Holy City.

A Palestinian child standing in a playground says on an official PA TV program that Jerusalem is “occupied” by Israel. He says that the city is holy for Muslims and Christians but doesn’t mention the deep Jewish connection to their eternal capital.

The Palestinians “are demanding to liberate it,” he declares.

The world should be outraged that innocent Palestinian children are fed lies, especially when the result is hatred, anti-Semitism and violence.

(full article online)

 

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They did not think of themselves as Arabs. They were different from the Arabs as stated before and created an Empire which had nothing to do with Arabs or Arabic.

But you will forever insist that they were.

You rewrite their history, as much as Arabs now want to rewrite Jewish history.

How do you know they didn't think of themselves as Arabs?
Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in Samaria about 700 BC and they thought they were Arabs and so did Sargon.
 

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Ignoring thousands of years of history and countless artifacts, the Palestinian leadership lies to their own children about the facts regarding Jerusalem and the Jewish People’s profound connection to the Holy City.

A Palestinian child standing in a playground says on an official PA TV program that Jerusalem is “occupied” by Israel. He says that the city is holy for Muslims and Christians but doesn’t mention the deep Jewish connection to their eternal capital.

The Palestinians “are demanding to liberate it,” he declares.

The world should be outraged that innocent Palestinian children are fed lies, especially when the result is hatred, anti-Semitism and violence.

(full article online)


The Zionists weren't given East Jerusalem, Shaaba Farms, the West Bank or the Golan Height.
 

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How do you know they didn't think of themselves as Arabs?
Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in Samaria about 700 BC and they thought they were Arabs and so did Sargon.

Because if they did, you wouldn't be asking for a proof of a negative,
arguing that Arabs were generically just about everyone and anyone in the Middle East.

Arabs have this cultural complex, to compensate by turning major historic figures and nations around them, by brainwashing their people to believe they were all Arabs.

The Samaritans are Mesopotamian, and today they're no more than 400 people left.
In recent decades the community had no girls being born, and they refused to
marry any Arabs, only Jewish women, all consider themselves Israelites.
 

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Because if they did, you wouldn't be asking for a proof of a negative,
arguing that Arabs were generically just about everyone and anyone in the Middle East.

Arabs have this cultural complex, to compensate by turning major historic figures and nations around them, by brainwashing their people to believe they were all Arabs.

The Samaritans are Mesopotamian, and today they're no more than 400 people left.
In recent decades the community had no girls being born, and they refused to
marry any Arabs, only Jewish women, all consider themselves Israelites.

The Arabs have been there for more than 10,000 years because they began migrating in waves as the peninsula changed from savanna to desert. Why is that threatening?

The Canaanites have a very ancient history in the region.. Look at Urfa and Harran and the Ugarite tablets.

And the Natufians go way back to Jericho and Jordan and the Levant.

History is far older than Adam and Eve. My God, Israel has some of the finest Archaeologists in the world.
 

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The Arabs have been there for more than 10,000 years because they began migrating in waves as the peninsula changed from savanna to desert. Why is that threatening?

The Canaanites have a very ancient history in the region.. Look at Urfa and Harran and the Ugarite tablets.

And the Natufians go way back to Jericho and Jordan and the Levant.

History is far older than Adam and Eve. My God, Israel has some of the finest Archaeologists in the world.

What is threatening? All you do is repeat stale none sense,
and ask for a proof of a negative changing the goalposts,
'cause you're a lame rug seller - without the rugs.
 
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RE: The Right To Destroy Jewish History
SUBTOPIC: Language
⁜→ surada, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians were not given anything.

The Zionists weren't given East Jerusalem, Shaaba Farms, the West Bank or the Golan Height.
(COMMENT)

This kind of banter does nothing to further poor outlined Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) claims or objections → to what is fact anded ground truth today.

I've been kind of quiet these last couple of days and just studied the implied allegations and the attempt to express an obligation that the HoAP is owed something.

You cannot detach your argument from the events of the modern-day → and force people to look backwards in time as a means of justification and validity to the HoAP claim to something.

IF there is a claim, THEN the HoAP must state it clearly and present arguments to support that claim. No finding, stela, token or stone tablet by Indiana Jones is going to change a damn thing for either side of the argument. The HoAP must offer something substantial, clear and convincing that demonstrates that whatever Israel did outside the actual way the world has worked in the past, today or in the future.

And one more thing. IF you are going to use the word "Zionist" THEN you must define that term. Are you talking about the ideology, the movement of the common belief that the development of Israel is - is in the best interest of the Jewish National Home (JNH). And the JNH - written into the seam of history is a concept made real by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers over a century ago. What are you claiming the Supreme Council did that was not within their power to do - back then?

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