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The Right To Destroy Jewish History

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A pernicious Arab lie has been published, slandering an Israeli Jewish hero.

From Iraq's Annabaa:

On September 19, 2021, Mr. Ghassan Al-Attiyah published an exciting article on his Facebook page, under the title “Death of the Farhud Organizer.” The post was topped by a phrase for Al-Attiyah saying, “Thank you to those who provided me with this information.” And it was stated in it, that Shlomo Hillel, an Iraqi Jew, who died recently at the age of 97, was a resident of Baghdad and immigrated to Israel and later returned in disguise to carry out a very dirty mission that targeted the security of Iraqi Jewish citizens, by inciting mobs and planting bombs in synagogues to intimidate the people and push them to immigrate to Israel. Unfortunately, these actions led to casualties and entered the history of contemporary Iraq in the name of “the Jews’ Farhud”!

Al-Attiyah quotes a confession by Shlomo Hillel in his book “Operation Babel” and he says frankly that the Iraqis are innocent of this issue and that it was orchestrated by him with an entire team, including the Israeli Defense Minister in the June 1967 war, Moshe Dayan...The publication also stated that Jewish Iraqi writers, including the poet Ibrahim Obadiah and Professor Shmuel Moreh-Sami, confess in books and diaries the innocence of Iraqis from the Farhud events.


Shlomo Hillel did die this year. That is the only accurate sentence in this article.

Hillel was a key figure in the airlift of 120,000 Jews from Iraq in Operation Ezra and Nehemiah. He did write a book about it, but he certainly never said that he was responsible for the (1941) Farhud or the bombings of Jewish areas of Baghdad in 1950-51.

No Jew was responsible. The idea that Jews were involved is an Iraqi myth (although many Iraqi Jews, disillusioned after they reached Israel and suffered discrimination, believed the myth, which helped spread it. )

Here is a good debunking of that slander:

(full article online)

 
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Is Islam the oldest religion? This is the not-so-innocent question a friend in South Africa put to Google a month ago. She was looking for factual information to use in an online debate regarding which religion is the older: Judaism or Islam. The friend sent me the above screenshot of the featured snippet that came up in response to her question.
The text of said snippet:
'Islam is the oldest religion in the world, founded by Adam, and it was reborn with Abraham and a second time with Muhammad. Between Abraham and Muhammad, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism and Christianity emerged in this order. Then Sikhism emerged after the time of Muhammad. These are the six world religions.'
Nu, so what exactly is a featured snippet and why should we care? A featured snippet is a box with a brief text answer followed by a source URL (a link). You might see a featured snippet above your search results, especially if your search is framed as a question. The purpose of the featured snippet is to preempt the need for the user to click on search results by providing a fast answer right out of the gate.
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The other piece of good news is that the original source of the earlier snippet for "Is Islam the oldest religion"—actually links to a refutation of that idea, hosted by, of all things, a Malaysian website. Click the link and you’ll be taken to a letter citing and rebutting the very text that Google had earlier so promptly supplied us:

(vide online)

All of which makes Google’s horribly wrong momentary mistake even worse, presented as it was, completely out of context. But let's face it: some Google algorithms suck worse than others. For us, the devil is in the details. And those details all too often tend to walk all over the Jews, their religion, and the Jewish State.

(full article online)

 

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Is Islam the oldest religion? This is the not-so-innocent question a friend in South Africa put to Google a month ago. She was looking for factual information to use in an online debate regarding which religion is the older: Judaism or Islam. The friend sent me the above screenshot of the featured snippet that came up in response to her question.
The text of said snippet:

Nu, so what exactly is a featured snippet and why should we care? A featured snippet is a box with a brief text answer followed by a source URL (a link). You might see a featured snippet above your search results, especially if your search is framed as a question. The purpose of the featured snippet is to preempt the need for the user to click on search results by providing a fast answer right out of the gate.
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The other piece of good news is that the original source of the earlier snippet for "Is Islam the oldest religion"—actually links to a refutation of that idea, hosted by, of all things, a Malaysian website. Click the link and you’ll be taken to a letter citing and rebutting the very text that Google had earlier so promptly supplied us:

(vide online)

All of which makes Google’s horribly wrong momentary mistake even worse, presented as it was, completely out of context. But let's face it: some Google algorithms suck worse than others. For us, the devil is in the details. And those details all too often tend to walk all over the Jews, their religion, and the Jewish State.

(full article online)



Too subtle for you? Muslims think anyone who followed the God of Abraham and submitted to the will of God is inherently a Muslim.

Its inclusive. Anyone who loves God is a Muslim. What's the problem?
 

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Too subtle for you? Muslims think anyone who followed the God of Abraham and submitted to the will of God is inherently a Muslim.

Its inclusive. Anyone who loves God is a Muslim. What's the problem?

That the followers of Muhammad result
in the largest illiterate group on earth!


- with all that it implies.
 
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Too subtle for you? Muslims think anyone who followed the God of Abraham and submitted to the will of God is inherently a Muslim.

Its inclusive. Anyone who loves God is a Muslim. What's the problem?
You bought into that BS, that is the problem.

Islam is as much a Superseding ideology as Christianity is.


supersede \soo-per-SEED\ verb. 1 a : to cause to be set aside. b : to force out of use as inferior. 2 : to take the place or position of. 3 : to displace in favor of another.


Supersede is defined as to replace. An example of supersede is for a new person to take the place of the old class president.

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Supersessionism, also called replacement theology, is a Christian doctrine which asserts that the New Covenant through Jesus Christ supersedes the Old Covenant, which was made exclusively with the Jewish people.

In Christianity, supersessionism is a theological view on the current status of the church in relation to the Jewish people and Judaism.[1] It holds the view that the Christian Church has succeeded the Israelites as the definitive people of God[1][2][3] or it holds the view that the New Covenant has replaced or superseded the Mosaic covenant.[4] From a supersessionist's "point of view, just by continuing to exist [outside the Church], the Jews dissent".[5] This view directly contrasts with dual-covenant theology which holds that the Mosaic covenant remains valid for Jews.

Supersessionism has formed a core tenet of Christian churches for the majority of their existence. Christian traditions that have championed dual-covenant theology (including the Roman Catholic, Reformed and Methodist teachings of this doctrine) have taught that the moral law continues to stand.[6]

As a result of the Holocaust, some mainstream Christian theologians and denominations have rejected supersessionism.[7]: 2–3 

The Islamic tradition views Islam as the final and most authentic expression of Abrahamic prophetic monotheism, superseding both Jewish and Christian teachings.[8] The doctrine of tahrif teaches that earlier monotheistic scriptures or their interpretations have been corrupted, while the Quran presents a pure version of the divine message that they originally contained.[9]

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Learn the meaning of words.

Learn beyond what you have been taught under Islamic tutelage.

Learn facts and stop being a parrot.
 

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You bought into that BS, that is the problem.

Islam is as much a Superseding ideology as Christianity is.


supersede \soo-per-SEED\ verb. 1 a : to cause to be set aside. b : to force out of use as inferior. 2 : to take the place or position of. 3 : to displace in favor of another.


Supersede is defined as to replace. An example of supersede is for a new person to take the place of the old class president.

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Supersessionism, also called replacement theology, is a Christian doctrine which asserts that the New Covenant through Jesus Christ supersedes the Old Covenant, which was made exclusively with the Jewish people.

In Christianity, supersessionism is a theological view on the current status of the church in relation to the Jewish people and Judaism.[1] It holds the view that the Christian Church has succeeded the Israelites as the definitive people of God[1][2][3] or it holds the view that the New Covenant has replaced or superseded the Mosaic covenant.[4] From a supersessionist's "point of view, just by continuing to exist [outside the Church], the Jews dissent".[5] This view directly contrasts with dual-covenant theology which holds that the Mosaic covenant remains valid for Jews.

Supersessionism has formed a core tenet of Christian churches for the majority of their existence. Christian traditions that have championed dual-covenant theology (including the Roman Catholic, Reformed and Methodist teachings of this doctrine) have taught that the moral law continues to stand.[6]

As a result of the Holocaust, some mainstream Christian theologians and denominations have rejected supersessionism.[7]: 2–3 

The Islamic tradition views Islam as the final and most authentic expression of Abrahamic prophetic monotheism, superseding both Jewish and Christian teachings.[8] The doctrine of tahrif teaches that earlier monotheistic scriptures or their interpretations have been corrupted, while the Quran presents a pure version of the divine message that they originally contained.[9]

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Learn the meaning of words.

Learn beyond what you have been taught under Islamic tutelage.

Learn facts and stop being a parrot.

Do you follow Mosaic law?
 

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To compensate for the disgrace of Muhammad's followers,
resulting in the abysmal depravity of Arab illiteracy...

Out of love for Avraham Avinu A"H of course!

Do you keep Mosaic law?
 

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Who buys the rock from the Arab quarries?

Who said anything about selling,
they just dump the rubble of historic sites.

Look at the Temple Mount sifting project,
9,000 tons of precious soil were just dumped away:

 
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Who said anything about selling,
they just dump the rubble of historic sites.

Look at the Temple Mount sifting project,
9,000 tons of precious soil were just dumped away:


The Temple was destroyed 2000 years ago. Its not Jewish anymore.. You have all of Palestine to excavate now.
 
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The Temple was destroyed 2000 years ago. Its not Jewish anymore.. You have all of Palestine to excavate now.
According to Islam, an ideology only founded about 1400 years ago, no Buddhist, Christian, or any other culture conquered by Islam, apparently belongs to those cultures anymore.

Because even Buddist Statues, or from anywhere else have been destroyed to make sure that no one
believes that there has anything else but Islamic history on that place:



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The Temple was always considered Jewish, even by Muslims. Until they lost the wars from 1948 on and decided that they needed to erase Jewish history completely in order to destroy Israel.

It is not all of Palestine. Never was.

It always was the Jewish Homeland and continue to be so, and will aways will be so.


Am Israel Chai
The People of Israel live

We are still alive and not going anywhere
 

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According to Islam, an ideology only founded about 1400 years ago, no Buddhist, Christian, or any other culture conquered by Islam, apparently belongs to those cultures anymore.

Because even Buddist Statues, or from anywhere else have been destroyed to make sure that no one
believes that there has anything else but Islamic history on that place:



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The Temple was always considered Jewish, even by Muslims. Until they lost the wars from 1948 on and decided that they needed to erase Jewish history completely in order to destroy Israel.

It is not all of Palestine. Never was.

It always was the Jewish Homeland and continue to be so, and will aways will be so.


Am Israel Chai
The People of Israel live

We are still alive and not going anywhere

When Omar arrived in Jerusalem it was the city dump. Muslims didn't destroy the Temple. The Romans did.
 
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When Omar arrived in Jerusalem it was the city dump. Muslims didn't destroy the Temple. The Romans did.
Oh gosh, you discovered America.
The Muslims did not destroy the Temple, the Romans did.

Actually it was an Arab Muslim who allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem which had been forbidden by the Romans, and then Christians.

And with the lack of Jews to keep their capital beautiful, Romans and Christians saw to it that it would turn into a "dump".

Kind of the same dump Islam kept it afterwards.

Just look a pictures of Jerusalem between 1948 and 1967. Oh, the reverence for the place. The reverence for Jewish history and rights as all of a sudden, for having lost the war to Israel.......the streets were suddenly paved with Jewish tombstones, and tombstones also used for latrines.

It is the imagery of walking on dead Jews and pissing on Jews. How Muslim appropriate.

And how did Muslims care for Jerusalem, besides planting a Mosque on top of the Temple?

Zero.

Niente.

Nothing.

Till they lost the war in 1948.


Do you have more recent tidbit lessons from your
Madrassa to share with us?
 
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Islamic Disregard for the Heritage of Others

The Taliban's destruction of ancient Buddhist cultural treasures in the Bamian Valley of Afghanistan during 1998 should have sounded a warning throughout the world over radical Islam's disregard for the religious heritage of others. The Taliban's extremism was partly a result of the influence of their guest, Osama bin Laden, and their Saudi Wahhabi paymasters more generally.2

Israel has witnessed a similar and more widespread pattern of actions by Islamists in support a pre-eminent, if not exclusive, Islamic claim to the Holy Land:

  • In Nazareth, Muslim zealots have sought since 1997 to construct a large mosque that would dwarf the Christian Basilica of the Annunciation.3

  • On October 7, 2000, after constant attacks by Palestinian mobs, the Jewish holy site of Joseph's Tomb in Nablus (Shechem) was sacked and burned, and later converted into a mosque. Five days later, the ancient Shalom Al Yisrael synagogue in Jericho was sacked and burned by Palestinians.4

  • Rachel's Tomb at the Jerusalem-Bethlehem border has come under repeated Palestinian sniper attack.

  • In April 2002, Palestinian Tanzim gunmen from Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement took over the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem and controlled the site for weeks at gunpoint.
However, the activities by the Muslim Waqf and the Israeli Muslim movement on the Temple Mount represent an unprecedented attempt to deny any legitimacy to the ancient Jewish heritage in Jerusalem.

After September 2000, the Muslim Waqf closed off the Temple Mount entirely to any archeological oversight by the Israel Antiquities Authority. Then, in order to complete new underground mosques at the site, it removed to city garbage dumps some 13,000 tons of rubble from the Temple Mount that included archeological remnants from the First and Second Temple periods.

The intention is to turn the entire 36-acre Temple Mount compound into an exclusively Muslim site by erasing every sign, remnant, and memory of its Jewish past, including the destruction of archeological findings that are proof of this past.

In a country where construction projects may be held up for months out of concern for the preservation of antiquities, the free hand given the Muslim Waqf to destroy Jewish artifacts at Judaism's holiest site is hard to comprehend.

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