The Right To Destroy Jewish History

[Sixties Fan]

The event was covered by La Presse, Le Soleil and La Voix de l’Est. It was also mentioned in a Globe and Mail article. All news outlets failed to adequately cover the inflammatory comments that Waters made against Israel and the Jewish people.

To wit:

• • There’s no truth to the accusation that Hayarkon Park is “Built on Palestinian dead people.”
  • There was no “massacre” in Jenin in 2002. The Israeli Defense Forces carried out Operation Defensive Shield after wave after wave of suicide bombers originated from the Jenin refugee camps in months prior, killing hundreds of Israelis. In a pinpoint defensive operation, Israeli forces risked their lives by entering this raven’s nest full of terrorists to prevent further attacks on Israeli citizens. The final death toll saw 56 Palestinians dead, the majority of whom were combatants, along with 23 Israeli soldiers.
  • Waters’ attempt to draw sympathy for the efforts of Palestinian suicide terrorists is morally repugnant.
  • His claim that there is a “fascist” system of “Jewish supremacy” within Israel ignores that two million+ Israeli-Arabs have full and democratic right alongside the Jewish majority in Israel. Israeli Arabs can vote and be elected to the Knesset, Israel’s parliament. They have served on Israel’s supreme court, and are active in business, diplomacy, media and more within Israel. Clearly, then, Waters’ attempted portrayal of Israel as being under a “system of Jewish supremacy” is fanciful, and based in nothing more than ideology, not facts.
  • Comparing Israeli polices to the Nazis by insinuating that Israel is carrying out a “Holocaust” of Palestinians is antisemitic according to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism.
  • Saying that Israel was founded by “settler colonialists” denies 3,000 years of Jewish indigeneity.
  • His claim that wealthy donors put pressure on McGill University to oppose pro-Palestinian policies a) has not been substantiated and b) insinuates that wealthy pro-Israel donors, Jews implied, control McGill University. This reeks of the antisemitic trope and conspiracy theory from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Roger Waters, made famous from his band Pink Floyd, was given an undue platform to spread disinformation, lies and to make unsubstantiated allegations, which has the potential to fan the flames of hatred towards Jewish Canadians, who continue to be disproportionately the victims of hate crimes in Canada.


(full article online)

Roger Waters Bashes Israel In Support Of Pro-Palestinian Students At McGill University

On July 14, Roger Waters performed in Montreal and spoke at an anti-Israel event called: “Standing Up For Student Solidarity

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[Sixties Fan]

I came across an online copy of Arab-Israeli Conflict: The Essential Reference Guide, a 2014 volume that attempts to distill the conflict to less than 400 pages, including source materials.

Written and edited by southeast Asia-based academic Priscilla Roberts, it attempts to be even-handed and there is little that is offensive or too inaccurate (it certainly has mistakes.)

But when I searched the book for "antisemitism," it mentions only the European version. It says nothing about Arab antisemitism. It doesn't have a separate entry on the Mufti of Jerusalem and his virulent hate nor anything about his Nazi collaboration. It mentions the Hebron pogrom of 1929 only as an aside in the article on United Kingdom Middle East policy: "Sporadic armed conflict between the two communities simmered until, in August 1929, 67 Jews were murdered by rioters in Hebron. This shocking event eroded what little confidence Jewish leaders had in a binational compromise future for the region and led to the rapid expansion of the paramilitary Jewish self-defense force known as the Haganah."

Throughout the book, Arab antipathy towards Jews is framed as a logical response to Zionism and the history of Islamic and Arab antisemitism is simply not there.

This is what we see in the media as well as academia. Jew-hatred is fundamentally irrational and no one wants to accuse Arabs or Muslims of being irrational, because that sounds Orientalist. Ignoring the very real history of antipathy towards Jews in the Arab world is not doing anyone any favors, though - if one ignores a fundamental reason for the conflict, one cannot possibly pretend to explain it.

Since the beginning of Islam, Jews were regarded as dhimmis in Muslim-majority (mostly Arab) lands. They were second class citizens with limited rights. They were tolerated, mostly, as long as they kept in their place. When they were perceived as having crossed some imaginary line, they were subjected to pogroms no less violent than those in eastern Europe. And the very existence of a Jewish state in the midst of Arab lands is hated not because of pro-Palestinian sentiment: it is from the shame that the weak, hated, dhimmi Jews defeated the combined Arab armies.

To ignore that history in describing the Arab Israeli conflict is to effectively censor an important narrative. Even worse, it ignores the antisemitism that is still seen in Arab media, today.

Roberts worked with a larger team on the four volume 2008 "The Encyclopedia of The Arab-Israeli Conflict: A Political, Social, and Military History" which is also online. In that work, Arab antisemitism is not ignored, but it is minimized.
Its entry on antisemitism concentrates on how historic European antisemitism has animated modern Zionism, while Arab and Muslim antisemitism is mentioned only as a logical result of Jewish ambition. Even the Mufti's antisemitism, which is well documented from his own writings and radio broadcasts, is downplayed as a response to Jewish power or realpolitik:

The figure of Haj Amin al-Husseini, grand mufti of Jerusalem, serves as an excellent indication of growing anti-Jewish sentiment during this period. A significant leader of the Palestinian Arabs, al-Husseini moved incrementally toward anti-Semitism as he opposed Jewish ambitions in the region. While he had economic dealings with the Jewish population, he also inspired and organized the growth of Arab paramilitary groups intent on thwarting the growth of Jewish power. When disputes over access to the holy places in Jerusalem led to open conflict in 1929, he proved unable to control his followers and ultimately gave assent to their actions.

...The grand mufti of Jerusalem gained notoriety for his active courting of the Axis powers. However, his motivations also involved significant anti-British sentiment, for he viewed the Germans as the likely victors in the war and sought to gain influence with them.

This is ahistorical but it reflects the general attitude of scholars towards Arab antisemitism: when it is mentioned at all, it is regarded as an unfortunate consequence of Jewish greed and power or an unintended result of other historical events. It is never considered on its own, and it is not mentioned as a continuation of centuries of Muslim attitudes towards Jews, as well as the influence of virulent Christian Arab antisemitism on Arab nationalism in the early 20th century which converted the Arab attitude towards Jews into full blown hate.

The bias is clear when we see the full-page entry on "Anti-Arab Attitudes and Discrimination:"

Anti-Arab attitudes, especially toward Muslim Arabs, as well as formal and informal policies and codes of conduct that unfairly target Arabs and are sometimes known as anti-Arabism have been especially virulent in Israel since 1948.

From reading this encyclopedia, one would believe that the only irrational hate in the conflict is that of Jews towards Arabs!

There is a major gap in scholarship towards the Middle East, and there are no signs that anyone is interested in filling it.

Arab antisemitism: The hate that cannot be named

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[Sixties Fan]

With regards to the assertion that the land has been Palestinian for 4,000 years, HonestReporting has previously addressed this fantastic example of historical revisionism:

Palestine, or officially “Provincia Syria Palaestina,” was a name invented by the Romans in 135 CE as a replacement for “Judea,” in an effort to eliminate all expressions of Jewry in the region following the defeat of Bar Kohba in the Jewish rebellion against the Roman Empire. Similarly, Jerusalem was officially renamed Aelia Capitolina.”

In fact, the Muslim conquest of the Levant did not occur until the early part of the seventh century when Muslim armies began to take over large swathes of the Middle East.

Furthermore, the suggestion that Jesus was a Palestinian is also incorrect: Jesus was born in Judea and was identified as Jew. Indeed, the cross upon which Jesus is said to have been crucified was inscribed with INRI’ – Iesvs Nazarenvs Rex Ivdaeorvm, which means ‘Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews’ in Latin.

Earth to Gigi Hadid: Ukraine and ‘Palestine’ Are Not the Same​

A massive dose of ahistoricism is required to make Gigi’s comparison. As such, a cold splash of reality is in order. Specifically, when Israel captured a number of territories during the Six-Day War it did so while fighting for its very survival against an onslaught by armies from neighboring Arab countries. A Palestinian state did not exist then, just as it does not exist today. Those captured territories, which Jerusalem offered to return in exchange for peace, were in fact taken from three countries that were aiming to eliminate Israel: Syria, Jordan and Egypt.

Ukraine, on the other hand, has never attacked or threatened to attack Russia. The latter is not acting in self-defense as Israel consistently has.

Gigi’s “solidarity” with Palestinians has veered into the utterly banal, such as her later-deleted post of artwork with the quote, “You Will Not Erase Palestine.”

Of course, the oft-used assertion that Israel is on some nefarious mission to “erase” Palestinians or their imagined state totally ignores the salient fact that Israel has repeatedly attempted to see the actualization of a Palestinian state via multiple peace deals. As we know, these have all been turned down by a Palestinian leadership that is hellbent on taking a path of perpetual rejectionism.

As an aside, any insinuation that Israel is seeking to drive out Palestinians is simply not grounded in reality considering their numbers have grown exponentially since Israel’s establishment in 1948.

Meet Baby Brother Anwar Hadid, Who Called for the IDF to Be “Erased From the Planet”​

The lesser known Hadid sibling, Anwar, allegedly a model in his own right, has not even tried to mask his antisemitism and animus towards Israelis.

In May of last year, leaked messages from the 23-year-old show that he sent messages to an Israeli woman, Taylor Amrani, in which he called for the deaths of all members of the Israel Defense Forces, saying he wished to see them “erased from the planet.”

In another message sent in response to an image of a 13-year-old girl who had been stabbed to death by Palestinian terrorists, Anwar Hadid glibly replied that “at least she had a home to sleep in.”

And perhaps revealing his tenuous understanding of Israeli-Palestinian affairs, the youngest of the Hadid siblings reportedly revealed to Amrani his belief that Israel’s first president Chaim Weizmann is Israel’s leader.

Fact check, Anwar: Chaim Weizmann died in 1952.

Father Knows Least: Family Patriarch Mohamed Hadid​

In the case of the Hadid children, it seems that the apples do not fall far from the tree. Their father Mohamed has been called out for sharing some of the most egregious lies about the Jewish state imaginable, such as in 2020 when he attempted to link American police brutality to Israel.

Although he later apologized for the Instagram post, it rang somewhat hollow when just two months later he attributed a false quote to Jewish physicist Albert Einstein that compared Zionists to Nazi Germany.



(full article online)

Hating With the Hadids: How a Family of Social Media Titans Is Using Their Might Against Israel | Honest Reporting

Collectively, the family boasts 135 million Instagram followers, which is roughly the population of Israel 15 times over. It is, therefore, no

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[Sixties Fan]

[ Adam and Eve, Abraham, Moses, were Muslims, the whole world......is Muslim and belongs to Islam, only ]

Habbash also addressed the ongoing conflict over the Temple Mount, saying that the Al Aqsa compound is under full control of the Islamic waqf, and as such, only Muslims could hold ownership over it.

"The entire area of Al-Aqsa is owned by Muslims only, and non-Muslims have no right to own even an inch of it. Prayer, management and ownership are the exclusive right of Muslims," he said, adding that the Western Wall plaza was also "part of the holy Islamic waqf" and the Al Aqsa compound, and as such, cannot belong to the Jews.

"There is no Muslim in the world who would accept Jewish ownership or sovereignty over the Kotel," he said.

(full article online)

https://www.israelhayom.com/2022/07/29/israel-has-no-sovereignty-over-western-wall-abbas-religious-adviser-says/

 

[surada]

In July 1948, the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine submitted a memorandum to the United Nations titled "Jewish Atrocities in the Holy Land." It is a hate-filled piece of antisemitic propaganda filled with the most obscene lies about the Jews of Palestine.




This example of pure antisemitism is still available in the UN archives online.

It was turned into a pamphlet to be distributed widely, and a copy of that can be seen at the Library of Congress.

The Arab League Information Bureau in Cairo issued an updated version in March 1949, which is now available in the online Palestinian Museum Archive, naturally.

Here are excerpts from the 1949 version, which leaves no doubt as to the pure Jew-hatred of these documents.

They start off with Holocaust inversion and Jewish media control:


After elaborating on how depraved the Jews are, we are told that the Arabs had welcomed them with open arms as they fled pogroms:

After some Biblical quotes on how Jews wantonly and thoroughly destroy their enemies, the pamphlet goes on to say that this is especially bad because the Jews are rich and cultured:


Then comes example after example of completely fictional stories of Jewish atrocities. For example, we are told that Jewish doctors stole the blood of Arabs.

The Deir Yassin section goes into lurid detail - and it sounds almost exactly like what the Jews in Hebron suffered in 1929. Just that was true.



The pamphlet goes on to accuse the Jews of waging biological warfare, and being behind cholera epidemics in Egypt and Transjordan.

The propaganda is clearly written towards a Christian audience. The pamphlets emphasize how Jews supposedly attacked Christian holy places and killed members of the clergy, and even more disgustingly claimed that Arabs had treated Jewish holy places with utmost respect. (50 synagogues were destroyed in Jerusalem alone.)

Today's Palestinian propaganda is very similar, just they are more careful in English to say "Zionists" rather than "Jews." But anyone who claims that the underlying antisemitism is not the same is fooling themselves.

The Arab Higher Commission's disgusting antisemitic propaganda of 1948-49

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Eisenhower was so furious about the slaughter at Deir Yassin that he threatened to cut off US foreign aid.. Ariel Sharon was fired in disgrace.

 

[surada]

The Jewish Agency is in the news:




The article notes:

This is not true. It was originally founded in 1908 as the Palestine Office, part of the Zionist Organization - in Hebrew, המשרד הארץ-ישראלי, HaMisrad HaEretz Yisraeli, "Office for the Land of Israel."

In 1921, the name was changed to the Jewish Agency for Palestine, in Hebrew "הסוכנות היהודית לארץ ישראל", HaSochnut HaYehudit L'Eretz Yisra'el, literally the Jewish Agency for the Land of Israel."

Here is a pin that the Jewish Agency used to distribute:



Apparently, the original name in Hebrew stuck for a while though, as this 1936 letterhead from Berlin shows:



Here is an immigration certificate for a lucky Jew from Poland in 1938 that uses both the "Jewish Agency for Palestine" and "Palestine Office" names, but in Hebrew it is always Eretz Yisrael.




After the War of Independence, it was renamed again, to the Jewish Agency for Israel - but in Hebrew, there was no reason to rename it.

Because before 1948, the translation of "Palestine" was "The Land of Israel."

Today's "Palestine" has nothing at all to do with Palestine before 1948. Every map, every reference to it was always to the Land of Israel (or, in English, the Holy Land.) Palestinian Arabs did not want to be called "Palestinian" - but Jews proudly did.

Palestinian Arabs, at least through the 1920s, also had a name for the land. But it wasn't "Palestine." It was "Suria El Jenobia" - Southern Syria.

The only people who wanted an independent Palestine were the Jews. And the Jewish Agency, an organization hated by anti-Zionists, helps prove it.

The Jewish Agency's history destroys the "Palestine was an Arab state" narrative

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

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Of course it was Southern Syria.. it was a province of Syria 500 years before Christ.

 

[surada]

Abi, caught in yet another lie. You claim that indee admitted that the western wall is actually from a roman fort, then when you show what he actually said, it is not what he said at all!

The western wall is not part of the old temple and never was considered as such. It is a retaining wall built by Herod for the temple mount.

Jews didn't worship at the Western wall until after the expulsion from Spain and Portugal. It was a Roman fortress called Fortress Antonia.

 

[surada]

I was not going to start a new thread on the forums, but this one seems to be a must.

I know that there are many well meaning people on these threads who want to see an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, like Coyote and many others. And then, there are those who are very ill meaning and do nothing but bash Israel and Jews over everything.

I believe that any and all, need to be reminded that this is Jewish land. It has been Jewish land for over 3000 years, and never contested by any one of its invaders and conquerors until the "dreadful day" when the Jews assumed that they could legally regain sovereignty over it and the Balfour Declaration happened and the Mandate for Palestine was to give the Jews their ancient homeland back.

We all know what has happened since 1920.

But what many do not know and do not seem to be aware of is what the people who have been calling themselves Palestinians since 1964 have been doing to ancient places they should have been claiming as their own, for after all, do they not say that they have been on the land as the Ancient Palestinians for the past 5000, no - 6000, no - 10000 years?

Aren't these ancient places and artifacts in Jerusalem and in Judea and Samaria part of the Palestinian History? Then why are they destroying any and all of it?

This is what has been going on for decades. Why are the "Palestinians" destroying their alleged history?

Palestinians destroying ancient Herodian and Hashmonean antiquities - literally bulldozing Jewish history ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

We've discussed the The Temple Mount Sifting Project before:
The Temple Mount Sifting Project (formerly known as the Temple Mount Salvage Operation) is an Israeli archaeological project begun in 2005 dedicated to recovering archaeological artifacts from 400 truckloads of topsoil removed from the Temple Mount by the Waqf during the construction of the underground el-Marwani Mosque from 1996 to 1999.[1] The project is under the academic auspices of Bar Ilan University and until 2017 was funded by the Ir David Foundation and Israel Exploration Society.The destruction of so many tons of property from the Temple Mount was the biggest archaeological crime in history.

The project webpage is now warning of other large-scale destruction of Jewish history by Palestinians, ISIS-style.
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In full view of people passing on the highway 90, Palestinians are using bulldozers and other heavy equipment to destroy Second Temple-era Jewish settlements in order to build a new village.

This is all happening in Area B, under Palestinian administrative control.

Moreover, it looks like Palestinian antiquities thieves are working in the area at night to steal whatever ancient artifacts they can find to sell on the market.

The article notes that similar destruction has recently begun in the area of the Hasmonean palaces in Jericho.
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Give Area C and the former Jewish Quarter and the Temple Mount to the invading Arabs who are now calling themselves the ancient inhabitants of the land, who should be protecting their ancient history and making tourism out of it?

Which one of you would dare do so?

Does the UN have any say on the Arabs destroying other people's ancient places?
Where has UNESCO been all of this time? What is their position about the endless destruction of Jewish History? Have they not complained about ISIS destroying antiquity?

Oh, wait......they have been giving Palestinian Status to Jewish places like the Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel's Tomb, and many other places.

I guess if the UN is in on it, then there is no hope for the Jewish people to ever get their ancient lands back, much less be allowed to freely visit those places, which is true when it comes to the Cave and the Tombs, etc, where Jews can only visit if they have a military escort.

Questions:

How can peace be achieved with the PA, the alleged partner for Peace, when it is the PA itself which allows such destruction to happen?

How can peace be achieved when destroying Israel is still in the Hamas and PLO, and Fatah charters and is taught on a daily basis to all Arabs who live in Gaza and areas A and B, and C and even in Israel?

What in the world is going to be done about the endless destruction and the want to destroy all which is Jewish on the Land of Israel, which does include all of Judea and Samaria which is the land of the Jewish People.
(I will not eve speculate what may already have been done to Jewish history in Jordan and Gaza )

DO the Arabs have the right to destroy any and all Jewish History they find and never have to answer to the rest of the world, much less to the Jewish People?

They were called Palestinians by 1950. You lied about Jenin too.

Battle of Jenin (2002) - Wikipedia

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[Sixties Fan]

From Al Watan Voice:

Sheikh Ikrima Sabri, the preacher of Al-Aqsa Mosque, confirmed that the occupation has been excavating and digging in Al-Aqsa Mosque since 1967, but he did not find a single stone related to the ancient Hebrew Jewish history.

In press statements, Sabri stressed that what the occupation found are Roman and Islamic monuments from the Umayyad, Abbasid, Mamluk and Turkish eras.

This is a constant theme in Palestinian media.

The absurdity is almost beyond belief. The entire Marwani Mosque, the underground mosque on the Temple Mount that was excavated by the Waqf, is built in the area of what is known as "Solomon's Stables" but were built during the Herodian era. The retaining walls of the Temple have been dug to the their foundations and are well-dated.

The entire City of David archaeological park, the numerous ritual baths that are right outside the Temple Mount, the bullae that have been found...the list is endless.

This stone, discovered next to the Temple Mount after 1967 by archaeologist Benjamin Mazar, says - in Hebrew - "To the Place of Trumpeting:'



This stone was a Greek-language warning to non-Jews not to enter the Temple grounds:

No stranger is to enter within the balustrade around the Temple and enclosure. Whoever is caught will be himself responsible for his ensuing death.

Partial remains of a similar Greek language warning were also found.

Coins of the Bar Kochba revolt included diagrams of the Temple.

There are new findings every year, including the stunning Herodian tiles found in the Temple Mount Sifting Project, which has also found First Temple-era finds and many Hebrew inscriptions.

The desire to erase Jewish history is simple bigotry.

Al Aqsa preacher again pretends that there is no archaeological proof of Jews in Jerusalem

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[Sixties Fan]

Eisenhower was so furious about the slaughter at Deir Yassin that he threatened to cut off US foreign aid.. Ariel Sharon was fired in disgrace.

Which history book did you get this information from?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Of course it was Southern Syria.. it was a province of Syria 500 years before Christ.

It was known as Judea. Judea comes from Judah. It was known during Roman times as the Province of Judea.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Jews didn't worship at the Western wall until after the expulsion from Spain and Portugal. It was a Roman fortress called Fortress Antonia.

And that would change the right of the Jews to their ancient homeland, how?

Conclusion​

Loewenberg concludes:

...there is no ancient Jewish tradition that designates the Western Wall as a sacred site. Instead, it was designated as a place of prayer less than five hundred years ago by a Muslim ruler. It took more than three centuries for the wall to attract the Jewish masses and, only in the last 150 years, has it become Judaism’s most sacred site. Yet, even if this place was not intrinsically holy (let alone as holy as the Temple Mount), or even if it had not been so designated by Suleyman the Great, it has become sanctified over time as Jews have increasingly utilized it for prayer.

History & Overivew of the Western Wall

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

 

[surada]

And that would change the right of the Jews to their ancient homeland, how?

Conclusion​

Loewenberg concludes:

...there is no ancient Jewish tradition that designates the Western Wall as a sacred site. Instead, it was designated as a place of prayer less than five hundred years ago by a Muslim ruler. It took more than three centuries for the wall to attract the Jewish masses and, only in the last 150 years, has it become Judaism’s most sacred site. Yet, even if this place was not intrinsically holy (let alone as holy as the Temple Mount), or even if it had not been so designated by Suleyman the Great, it has become sanctified over time as Jews have increasingly utilized it for prayer.

History & Overivew of the Western Wall

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

There are photos from Bon Fils from the 1880s of Jewish women praying at the wall.

 

[Sixties Fan]

They were called Palestinians by 1950. You lied about Jenin too.

Battle of Jenin (2002) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

What was the lie about Jenin supposed to be?
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Jews, Arabs, Bedouins, Druze, etc, who found themselves in the region of Palestine once the Mandate of Palestine was created......all were called Palestinians.

Once TranJordan became Jordan, those living there were called Jordanians.
Once Israel became Independent, those living there were called Israelis.

Those living in Gaza.....under Egyptian rule 48-67......????
Those living in Judea and Samaria between 1948-1967 were called Jordanians:

When Jordan transferred its full citizenship rights to the residents of the West Bank, the annexation more than doubled the population of Jordan.[4] The naturalized Palestinians enjoyed equal opportunities in all sectors of the state without discrimination, and they were given half of the seats of the Jordanian parliament.[13]

Jordanian annexation of the West Bank - Wikipedia

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[Sixties Fan]

There are photos from Bon Fils from the 1880s of Jewish women praying at the wall.

And your point is?

 

[surada]

What was the lie about Jenin supposed to be?
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Jews, Arabs, Bedouins, Druze, etc, who found themselves in the region of Palestine once the Mandate of Palestine was created......all were called Palestinians.

Once TranJordan became Jordan, those living there were called Jordanians.
Once Israel became Independent, those living there were called Israelis.

Those living in Gaza.....under Egyptian rule 48-67......????
Those living in Judea and Samaria between 1948-1967 were called Jordanians:

When Jordan transferred its full citizenship rights to the residents of the West Bank, the annexation more than doubled the population of Jordan.[4] The naturalized Palestinians enjoyed equal opportunities in all sectors of the state without discrimination, and they were given half of the seats of the Jordanian parliament.[13]

Jordanian annexation of the West Bank - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What does that have to do with the massacre at Deir Yassin or the battle at the Jenin refugee camp?

 

[surada]

And your point is?

It's a very small group.

 

[Sixties Fan]

What does that have to do with the massacre at Deir Yassin or the battle at the Jenin refugee camp?

I answered your post.

My question still is What was the lie about Jenin?

 

[Sixties Fan]

It's a very small group.

Stuck on numbers. They had the right to be there, no matter what the "numbers" were.

 

[surada]

I answered your post.

My question still is What was the lie about Jenin?

Go back and read your posts.