The right has lost it's collective mind on it's priorities. Hunter didn't get a 'sweetheart' deal.
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Rumpole
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Nice dodge/----/ And you libtards tried to have Trump Jr convicted of collusion for his non-meeting with a Russian in 2016. But Hunter can shake down foreign nations for $5 million while you sing TAIN'T NO BIG THANG.
Trump Jr.'s Russia emails could trigger probe under election law
Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with a woman he was told was a Russian government lawyer who had incriminating information about Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton that could help his father's presidential campaign could lead investigators to probe whether he violated U.S. election law, experts said.www.reuters.com
I redirect your attention to the previous comment which you have thus far failed to rebut:
There was nothing incriminating in his message.
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So that’s a yes. No sane, unpaid person would take your pro-Biden position. So you’re either insane or paid
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Biden should have registered as a lobbyist for the CCP.
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You almost have to laugh that the left fakes hysteria over Trump's old classified documents allegedly related to nuclear technology while they conveniently forget that a doddering old fool has his trembling thumb on the nuclear button and thanks to democrat policies every emerging country in the world is close to nuclear capability.
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I keep hearing that this is double-tiered justice, that Hunter Biden's pleading guilty to a tax charge, which is a misdemeanor because it's for filing taxes late, he's getting favorable treatment.
Thousands of people file late, make payment arrangements, and never get charged.
Let's be clear, Hunter wasn't charge for tax evasion. Hunter paid his tax bill, it's just that he paid it late and underpaid. How many people are charged with filing late and paying late, even if they underpay?
Very few people are.
. I filed late and paid late, made payments. They found I owed more, they just added it to the total I owed as I continued to make montly payments which I eventually paid it off. No charges. This is true for MOST people.
In 2021, Biden paid all of the outstanding taxes he owed for 2017 and 2018, the years named in the charges. Biden wasn't charged with failure to file returns for those years. He filed returns but agreed to plead guilty to not having paid enough in both years, which was over $100,000. so, was it a miscalculation? Honest mistakes aren't necessarily criminal. I gather that rather than go through an expensive trial, a misdemeanor is something he could live with and pled out. Nixon shorted the gov $500k (in 1972 dollars) and he just paid it, no 'jail time' or charges were filed.
So, in my view, If Hunter's name were not "Biden', he most likely never would have been charged, just like they don't charge most people for filing late.
And this Idea they are being hard on Trump is also nonsense.
If his name weren't Trump he would be in jail . Document #19 on the FBI Inventory list, an S/FRD file, (Secret/Formerly Restricted Data, a nuclear secret doc) alone would do the trick for prison if anyone else had it and refused to hand it back to the government.
What Are the Classified Documents in the Trump Indictment?
What do we know, and what can we infer, about the 31 documents the special counsel's office charges Trump with retaining?www.lawfareblog.com
S/FRD classification are one notch under the highest for nuclear secrets, which is S/RD. In order for members of the pentagon to review the documents, they had to be lowered a notch to S/FRD in order to view them, which is the only reason for the classification so do not confuse the word 'formerly' wrongfully meaning it's no longer a nuclear secret. Not true. This is a very high classification.
The bottom line is that for 5 years on investigation, the best Weiss could pin on Biden was two misdemeanors. He, like Durham, have done a lot of investigation and have little to show for it. But, to save face, they went for something anything, to justify the many years and millions of tax dollars spent. So, Weiss got 2 misdemeanors for a 5 year investigation, and Durham got 3 indictments, 2 acquittals,and the 3rd a guilty plea for something minor for a four year investigation. This is, essentially, an epic fail on both. Now both Weiss and Durham are respectable guys, I have nothing against them, but their achievements here are nothing to brag about.
And, about that "Gun charge". This is lying on the 4473 ATF background check form.
so, if you were a drug user, and you answered 'no' to this question on the 4473 form:
“Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?”
You think you would get 10 years for answering no untruthfully?
I don't think so. Maybe if there were other associated crimes, but by itself? I doubt it.
First, the odds of your getting a criminal referral for answering 'no' is practically non-existent.
If you got a criminal referral, which, in 2020, was some 433 referrals out of 27 million background checks, only 243 of those were charged, and that doesn't even tell us who was convicted.
so, how does it come to pass that he got caught?
Because he is famous. Because he is Hunter Biden.
If it were you or me, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
But, of course, it's all about Hunter Biden, a private citizen, I mean, that Jared Kushner, who was a Senior WH Advisor, got $2 billion and a $125,000,000 management fee as blood money from Mohammed Bin Salman, that far more important fact of corruption doesn't even bother you folks on the right.
Oh, but Hunter Biden, he lied on an background check form, that's something to bellyache about.
My gawd the right has lost it's mind on it's priorities.
And y'all still haven't produced any direct evidence that implicates Joe Biden in a crime of any kind.
Justice Department Charges More than 14,200 Defendants with Firearms-Related Crimes in FY20
Official DOJ statement from 2020:
"Lying on ATF Form 4473, which is used to lawfully purchase a firearm, is also a federal offense. The department is committed to prosecuting these firearms offenses..."
Justice Department Charges More than 14,200 Defendants with Firearms-Related Crimes in FY20
Today, the Justice Department announced it has charged more than 14,200 defendants with firearms-related crimes during Fiscal Year (FY) 2020, despite the challenges of COVID-19 and its impact on the criminal justice process.
DOJ prosecuted 298 and 271 cases for lying on a 4473 in 2018 and 2019, respectively.
Meanwhile, Hunter gets diversion - no charge at all - for his gun crime and a slap on the wrist for not paying taxes on $8M income.
Sounds like a sweetheart deal to me, and yesterday, this crackhead was on the national stage representing the supposed best America has to offer...
And Donald Trump faces life in prison for documents he had full access to while president and claims to have declassified.
It is without a doubt, a two-tiered system of justice.
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All that proves is there is probably a contract between Hunter and the individual who has made a commitment
to pay funds owing to some kind of contractual relationship and appears to be reneging, and, in an effort to demand the individual to honor a commitment given, Hunter is engaging in a technique called posturing (non violent intimidation via association with a powerful figure) There is NOTHING in the email that implicates Joe Biden in a crime, nor is it a criminal act in itself,
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I keep hearing that this is double-tiered justice, that Hunter Biden's pleading guilty to a tax charge, which is a misdemeanor because it's for filing taxes late, he's getting favorable treatment.
Thousands of people file late, make payment arrangements, and never get charged.
Let's be clear, Hunter wasn't charge for tax evasion. Hunter paid his tax bill, it's just that he paid it late and underpaid. How many people are charged with filing late and paying late, even if they underpay?
Very few people are.
. I filed late and paid late, made payments. They found I owed more, they just added it to the total I owed as I continued to make montly payments which I eventually paid it off. No charges. This is true for MOST people.
In 2021, Biden paid all of the outstanding taxes he owed for 2017 and 2018, the years named in the charges. Biden wasn't charged with failure to file returns for those years. He filed returns but agreed to plead guilty to not having paid enough in both years, which was over $100,000. so, was it a miscalculation? Honest mistakes aren't necessarily criminal. I gather that rather than go through an expensive trial, a misdemeanor is something he could live with and pled out. Nixon shorted the gov $500k (in 1972 dollars) and he just paid it, no 'jail time' or charges were filed.
So, in my view, If Hunter's name were not "Biden', he most likely never would have been charged, just like they don't charge most people for filing late.
And this Idea they are being hard on Trump is also nonsense.
If his name weren't Trump he would be in jail . Document #19 on the FBI Inventory list, an S/FRD file, (Secret/Formerly Restricted Data, a nuclear secret doc) alone would do the trick for prison if anyone else had it and refused to hand it back to the government.
What Are the Classified Documents in the Trump Indictment?
What do we know, and what can we infer, about the 31 documents the special counsel's office charges Trump with retaining?
S/FRD classification are one notch under the highest for nuclear secrets, which is S/RD. In order for members of the pentagon to review the documents, they had to be lowered a notch to S/FRD in order to view them, which is the only reason for the classification so do not confuse the word 'formerly' wrongfully meaning it's no longer a nuclear secret. Not true. This is a very high classification.
The bottom line is that for 5 years on investigation, the best Weiss could pin on Biden was two misdemeanors. He, like Durham, have done a lot of investigation and have little to show for it. But, to save face, they went for something anything, to justify the many years and millions of tax dollars spent. So, Weiss got 2 misdemeanors for a 5 year investigation, and Durham got 3 indictments, 2 acquittals,and the 3rd a guilty plea for something minor for a four year investigation. This is, essentially, an epic fail on both. Now both Weiss and Durham are respectable guys, I have nothing against them, but their achievements here are nothing to brag about.
And, about that "Gun charge". This is lying on the 4473 ATF background check form.
so, if you were a drug user, and you answered 'no' to this question on the 4473 form:
“Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?”
You think you would get 10 years for answering no untruthfully?
I don't think so. Maybe if there were other associated crimes, but by itself? I doubt it.
First, the odds of your getting a criminal referral for answering 'no' is practically non-existent.
If you got a criminal referral, which, in 2020, was some 433 referrals out of 27 million background checks, only 243 of those were charged, and that doesn't even tell us who was convicted.
so, how does it come to pass that he got caught?
Because he is famous. Because he is Hunter Biden.
If it were you or me, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
But, of course, it's all about Hunter Biden, a private citizen, I mean, that Jared Kushner, who was a Senior WH Advisor, got $2 billion and a $125,000,000 management fee as blood money from Mohammed Bin Salman, that far more important fact of corruption doesn't even bother you folks on the right.
Oh, but Hunter Biden, he lied on an background check form, that's something to bellyache about.
My gawd the right has lost it's mind on it's priorities.
And y'all still haven't produced any direct evidence that implicates Joe Biden in a crime of any kind.
If you actually believe this........you are not a very bright human being..........if you don't believe this and are simply posting as "disinformation," you are a vile human being.....
Any other American who wasn't a democrat, and son or daughter of a democrat politician would not have gotten these deals...and would be sitting in prison awaiting a trial.....
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Reread the comment. I said:
There is nothing incriminating in the message.
ANd that fact is the only fact that matters.
In short,
All the message proves is there is probably a contract between Hunter and the individual who has made a commitment to pay funds owing to some kind of contractual relationship and appears to be reneging, and, in an effort to demand the individual to honor a commitment given, Hunter is engaging in a technique called posturing (non violent intimidation via association with a powerful figure) There is NOTHING in the email that implicates Joe Biden in a crime, nor is it a criminal act in itself,
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