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For decades, the threat of nuclear armageddon has kept Russia and the West out of a direct confrontation. The prospect of global nuclear war has been a line that neither side is willing to cross.
As this article points out, the reason has materialized now. The US has started a proxy war against Russia. The fact that would happen has been more or less evident ever since the end of WW2.
Opinions? Will Russia ever accept defeat before using its weapons that were accumulated for the purpose now at hand?
There's some logic in that reply and so thanks for bringing it up. It could possibly be said that Russia is defeated because of the fact that they can't win against the US and combined forces.In this day and age, if you are having to use nukes -- you are already defeated......
Russia would detonate a dirty bomb, then blame it on Ukraine, and many right-wingers and Tulsi fans will run propaganda for Russia to claim it was Ukraine......I should have also asked the questions:
How much punishment will either side agree to bear before resorting to nuclear weapons?
and
Will Russia use their nuclear weapons on the Ukraine first, or on some American or nato resources?
As this article points out, the reason has materialized now. The US has started a proxy war against Russia. The fact that would happen has been more or less evident ever since the end of WW2.
Opinions? Will Russia ever accept defeat before using its weapons that were accumulated for the purpose now at hand?
Yes, started.The US has started a proxy war against Russia.
Started?
Yes, started.
On account of there being many, many understandings assumed on the use of unlimited force.
Short of the use of nuclear weapons, some of those could be considered here on this discussion.
First, Russia is showing unusual restraint in this war by not carpet bombing the Ukraine's cities and civilian population. We need only look back to the bombing of London or Dresden for examples..
America hasn't eliminated Russia's navy in the Black Sea, on account of turn about by Russia.
Those are two examples of many that are still limitations on America's war with Russia.
Who can think of some more?
That is a possibility and it stops far short of all out war, save the use of nuclear weapons. Would that be considered to be fair play by the US, or would it bring on the escalation of the war that the world fears so much.Russia would detonate a dirty bomb, then blame it on Ukraine, and many right-wingers and Tulsi fans will run propaganda for Russia to claim it was Ukraine......
If Russia uses a nuclear weapon, Russia won't have any interest in denying it. It is going to be deliberate and aimed at producing the desired effect on America's resolve to win this war.But Russia actually firing a tactical nuke (which we all know Ukraine does not have) will not happen because it is harder for Russia to deny it...
Proxy wars can't have a definitive date when they began. The best we can say is that America's proxy war with Russia began in 2014.Yes, started.
On what date?
Proxy wars can't have a definitive date when they began. The best we can say is that America's proxy war with Russia began in 2014.
Or we might even say that America started to wage war against Russia, immediately following WW2.
What would be your best guess?
When did America's proxy war with Iraq begin, and when did it become not a proxy war anymore?
Russia was fighting proxy wars against the US before it built its nuclear arsenal. Russia started its proxy wars in 1939 when it invaded Poland.There's some logic in that reply and so thanks for bringing it up. It could possibly be said that Russia is defeated because of the fact that they can't win against the US and combined forces.
Thus we need to consider the question of any enemy of the US accepting defeat if it's armed with nukes, or has powerful friends armed with nukes.
For an example, would N.K. take out American installations in S.K. as their last great act of defiance?
As this article points out, the reason has materialized now. The US has started a proxy war against Russia. The fact that would happen has been more or less evident ever since the end of WW2.
Opinions? Will Russia ever accept defeat before using its weapons that were accumulated for the purpose now at hand?
America and the Soviet Union fought on the same side during WW2, even though many Americans expressed their support of Nazi Germany and nearly allied with Germany.Russia was fighting proxy wars against the US before it built its nuclear arsenal. Russia started its proxy wars in 1939 when it invaded Poland.
America and the Soviet Union fought on the same side during WW2, even though many Americans expressed their support of Nazi Germany and nearly allied with Germany.
America, especially the southern states have a long and detailed history of preferring to support fascism. Trump has likely called on that fact to revive it, and the endemic racism in America.
You are correct that the USA and USSR FOUGHT on the same side, but they were never allies. The Soviets wanted everything they could get from the WAllies, but gave little to nothing in return. Stalin and the USSR government viewed the WAllies as much their enemies as they did Germany and the "Hitlerites".America and the Soviet Union fought on the same side during WW2, even though many Americans expressed their support of Nazi Germany and nearly allied with Germany.
America, especially the southern states have a long and detailed history of preferring to support fascism. Trump has likely called on that fact to revive it, and the endemic racism in America.
A very small percentage of Americans supported the American Nazi Party or the German American Bund and most of them fought against the Nazis eventually. As opposed to your country that had a pro-Nazi King (Edward VII). Imagine history if he hadn't been forced to abdicate in favor of his younger brother George VI so he could marry Wallis Simpson. The US would have had trouble beating a coalition of Nazi Germany, France and the UK. With Edward on the throne, the best the US could expect would be fighting a conquered France and Germany with the British Empire staying neutral in favor of Germany.America and the Soviet Union fought on the same side during WW2, even though many Americans expressed their support of Nazi Germany and nearly allied with Germany.
America, especially the southern states have a long and detailed history of preferring to support fascism. Trump has likely called on that fact to revive it, and the endemic racism in America.
America and the Soviet Union fought on the same side during WW2, even though many Americans expressed their support of Nazi Germany and nearly allied with Germany.
America, especially the southern states have a long and detailed history of preferring to support fascism.
Ukraine first I would guess, and this would be Russia's way of saying "Back OFF" or you are next. The unfortunate circumstances of Ukraine not being already inducted into NATO early on or before the war has left Ukraine in a very vulnerable situation. This is why Russia has done what it has done as far as the invasion goes. NATO, and the west has had to referee from the sideline's as the two slug it out.I should have also asked the questions:
How much punishment will either side agree to bear before resorting to nuclear weapons?
and
Will Russia use their nuclear weapons on the Ukraine first, or on some American or nato resources?
