Zone1 The reason there is hatred against Jews is about numbers. Judaism is a tiny religion and group compared to their enemies.

[Carl in Michigan]

Like I said, she REALLY believes he was a false prophet. She was being diplomatic -- lying

 

[Lisa558]

Like I said, she REALLY believes he was a false prophet. She was being diplomatic -- lying

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Where did THAT come from?

Jesus is a non-entity to Jews. I’ve never heard him referred to in 60+ years of synagogue services, Torah classes, holiday sermons. Nobody ever referred to him as a false prophet, as he is not mentioned at all.

 

[Hector12]

Most Jews are Ashkenazi Jews. Ashkenazi Jews are the most superior race on earth. They deserve the test we can offer them.

 

[rosends]

Like I said, she REALLY believes he was a false prophet. She was being diplomatic -- lying

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this is incorrect and is a major reason why one should not trust the "AI" responses. According to Judaism, the time of prophecy had ended 300 years before Jesus was born so, no, we don't consider him a prophet, failed or otherwise.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus is a non-entity to Jews. I’ve never heard him referred to in 60+ years of synagogue services, Torah classes, holiday sermons. Nobody ever referred to him as a false prophet, as he is not mentioned at all.

lying by omission ...

the jews just saw fit to crucify jesus for no reason whatsoever ...

surly not jesus's repudiation of judaism, their false commandments and hereditary idolatry et al - had nothing to do with it. or their love for themselves greater than the heavens. denial of the 1st century events and their heavenly personification.

 

[BreezeWood]

According to Judaism, the time of prophecy had ended 300 years before Jesus was born ...

how convenient, all was finished so what then is the purpose the special one's have for a messiah ...

 

[Woodznutz]

Some, like JPS and ArtScroll, are pretty accurate to the original text, being translations from Jews for Jews. But there are still words in Hebrew that are hard to translate. And that is true of any language.

Translate "melacha" in one word. Most translations translate to "work". It is close but not quite accurate. When we study the English text and come upon "work", we will refer back to the Hebrew text to see what the word used was. And that is just one example.

Context is everything.

 

[Arlette]

lying by omission ...

the jews just saw fit to crucify jesus for no reason whatsoever ...

surly not jesus's repudiation of judaism, their false commandments and hereditary idolatry et al - had nothing to do with it. or their love for themselves greater than the heavens. denial of the 1st century events and their heavenly personification.

It never made any sense to me that it was Jews who crucified Jesus. They had no reason to, but the Romans did. He was a trouble maker who championed his people during a time of brutal occupation by the Romans. A social justice warrior of sorts. I think when Constantine converted to Christianity and made it the religion of the land he wanted to wash his hands of the deed and blamed it on Jews. History is written by the winner.

 

[BreezeWood]

It never made any sense to me that it was Jews who crucified Jesus. They had no reason to, but the Romans did. He was a trouble maker who championed his people during a time of brutal occupation by the Romans. A social justice warrior of sorts. I think when Constantine converted to Christianity and made it the religion of the land he wanted to wash his hands of the deed and blamed it on Jews.

jesus was a religious itinerant during the 1st century events made famous by a 4th century book - the romans did not know who he was, the jews paid in silver to have him crucified as jesus repudiated the false religion of judaism and had no thoughts at all about the romans - or othrerwise would have been born in rome were their truth to their divinity ... jesus is chosen by the heavens, not the otherway around.

 

[Arlette]

jesus was a religious itinerant during the 1st century events made famous by a 4th century book - the romans did not know who he was, the jews paid in silver to have him crucified as jesus repudiated the false religion of judaism and had no thoughts at all about the romans - or othrerwise would have been born in rome were their truth to their divinity ... jesus is chosen by the heavens, not the otherway around.

I'm an atheist. I have no skin in the game. Just saying that the Roman emperor Constantine had a vested interest in putting blame elsewhere.

 

[Woodznutz]

Some, like JPS and ArtScroll, are pretty accurate to the original text, being translations from Jews for Jews. But there are still words in Hebrew that are hard to translate. And that is true of any language.

Translate "melacha" in one word. Most translations translate to "work". It is close but not quite accurate. When we study the English text and come upon "work", we will refer back to the Hebrew text to see what the word used was. And that is just one example.

If you really want to have fun study Genesis 3:14.

 

[Woodznutz]

Where did THAT come from?

Jesus is a non-entity to Jews. I’ve never heard him referred to in 60+ years of synagogue services, Torah classes, holiday sermons. Nobody ever referred to him as a false prophet, as he is not mentioned at all.

How can Jews not have opinions about Jesus?

 

[BreezeWood]

I'm an atheist. I have no skin in the game. Just saying that the Roman emperor Constantine had a vested interest in putting blame elsewhere.

fine -

the romans already had a history w/ judaism nothing surprising in the christian bible that was not already known as the jewish silver payoff and their choice of barabbas to spite jesus insuring his crucifixion.

jesus never had a relationship w/ the romans. correct in that the romans (christians) wrote the christian bible for their agenda and as well to support the servitude and denial of judaism - than much of what was taught by jesus, liberation theology, self determination.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This is what I have concluded after years of learning about Judaism. They are and remain the underdogs, contrary to some beliefs and it makes it easier for people to justify their bias against them as there are too few to debate them, and/or are educated about history.

Yes, they are the dominant military and economic power compared to the Palestinians, it is to their credit, due to their own effort and focus. The reality is that they are a tiny nation, with a tiny population, even worldwide as a religion, they are less than 20M people. Think about that . Islam has over 1 BILLION people, many of them taught to hate the Jews and most of them (outside of Indonesia) are in their neighbourhood. Even Christianity which is far more pro-Jewish than any other religion outside of Judaism has over 1 Billion people (at least in the loose definition of what is defined as a Christian).

The truth is that all that is good in the world, across all of humanity, is due to the Torah. In essence, all of what is good in the world has its origins in Judaism and it's genesis (pardon the pun) is the Jews. We now embraced, through the rabbi Jesus, Judeo-Christian values. A significant improvement.

Someone prove me wrong about the assertions in that last paragraph. Every nation that believes in the respect of human lives, the beauty of the world and within each of our souls is due to Judaism ultimately.

No stronger assertion of this was the poll of Arabs in Jerusalem who stated in polls overwhelmingly that they would prefer Israeli rule over Arab rulers. Why would they, as practicing Muslims prefer this?

Yes, as in Christianity, there are Jews who have lost their faith, that which was important to the light upon the world. However, even those who lose faith and adherence to the bible have at their core the belief in the sanctity of life, the loyalty to fair and equal justice, the belief in morality and forgiveness.

In todays world it's fashionable to blame the Jews for everything, especially in the region. Don't fall for that disinformation spread by enemies of the West, educate yourselves/

Hatred exists because people find strong groups of people who aren't their own a threat. And yes, being smaller makes them an easy target. And their fractured nature also doesn't help.

 

[Lisa558]

How can Jews not have opinions about Jesus?

He himself is inconsequential to Jews.

But my point is there is no teaching, not even a mention, of Jesus during services, in our readings, in our classes, during holidays, etc.

 

[AsherN]

If you really want to have fun study Genesis 3:14.

What makes you think I don't study Torah? And never study verses out of context.

 

[rosends]

How can Jews not have opinions about Jesus?

Do you have an opinion about every person venerated by other religions? Why would we have an opinion on someone who has no impact on us?

 

[Lisa558]

If you really want to have fun study Genesis 3:14.

Because GD cursed the serpent?

 

[FDR_Reagan]

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[BreezeWood]

Do you have an opinion about every person venerated by other religions? Why would we have an opinion on someone who has no impact on us?

such are the perpetrators ...

because your religion interrupted and murdered them - and will be brought to justice for anyone to hear from the heavens again.