Zone1 The reason there is hatred against Jews is about numbers. Judaism is a tiny religion and group compared to their enemies.

[Woodznutz]

What makes you think I don't study Torah? And never study verses out of context.

Of course, you study the full discourse around the verse, referring to the Hebrew definition of key words.

 

[Woodznutz]

Do you have an opinion about every person venerated by other religions? Why would we have an opinion on someone who has no impact on us?

You don't think Christianity has an impact on Judaism?

 

[Woodznutz]

Because GD cursed the serpent?

Requires careful study.

 

[rosends]

You don't think Christianity has an impact on Judaism?

Sure it has. Jesus, no.

 

[BreezeWood]

You don't think Christianity has an impact on Judaism?

Sure it has. Jesus, no.

historically - "jesus no" ...

such is the truth. the consequences through the centuries without the blessings of jesus and those others during the 1st century events.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I've chosen whom I'm loyal to

 

[Woodznutz]

Sure it has. Jesus, no.

How can you separate Christ from Christianity?

 

[Lisa558]

How can you separate Christ from Christianity?

Don’t you get it?

1) Christianity is a religion that exists. Jews know that, and they know that it is comprised of people who believe a man named Jesus who lived 2000 years ago was the Messiah.

2) Jesus himself is not a factor to Jews. He has no bearing on our religion, other than the fact that many people who believe in him are hostile to Jews who won’t do the same, and is never mentioned in our Shabbos services, at Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur, nor at the Seders, nor at Chanukah, nor in any Torah classes we take, nor in any sermons the rabbi gives.

 

[Woodznutz]

Don’t you get it?

1) Christianity is a religion that exists. Jews know that, and they know that it is comprised of people who believe a man named Jesus who lived 2000 years ago was the Messiah.

2) Jesus himself is not a factor to Jews. He has no bearing on our religion, other than the fact that many people who believe in him are hostile to Jews who won’t do the same, and is never mentioned in our Shabbos services, at Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur, nor at the Seders, nor at Chanukah, nor in any Torah classes we take, nor in any sermons the rabbi gives.

I get that.

 

[shockedcanadian]

You don't think Christianity has an impact on Judaism?

Yes it has. Rabbis like Breitowitz who is out of Israel but was raised in America (he has an interesting story too, he could have had a great career in law) has opened my eyes to this fact. He is quite loyal to the Torah and the history of the Talmud and the well respected Rav of the past. and present.

He is quite detailed in his explanations in as objective a manner as he can. I enjoy this approach and he is perhaps my favourite teacher to learn from.

My opinion is that this influence is reciprocal. The world isn't static, civilizations in history change and shift. Sometimes, as with the Hellenistic Period, Jews may be losing their tenets and they did eventually return. Today I see many Christians who are being influenced by Judaism, placing acts over thoughts as they feel that Christians have lost their way. Many become dedicated Noahides or even convert to Orthodox Jews which requires a great deal of work and study..

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes it has. Rabbis like Breitowitz who is out of Israel but was raised in America (he has an interesting story too, he could have had a great career in law) has opened my eyes to this fact. He is quite loyal to the Torah and the history of the Talmud and the well respected Rav of the past. and present.

He is quite detailed in his explanations in as objective a manner as he can. I enjoy this approach and he is perhaps my favourite teacher to learn from.

My opinion is that this influence is reciprocal. The world isn't static, civilizations in history change and shift. Sometimes, as with the Hellenistic Period, Jews may be losing their tenets and they will eventual return. Today I see many Christians who are being influenced by Judaism, placing acts over thoughts as they feel that Christians have lost their way. Many become dedicated Noahides or even convert to Orthodox Jews which requires a great deal of work and study..

I think many churches suffer from the presence and influence of "tares" in their midst. As a Christian I believe personal conversion is more important than "acts", although as James states deeds of faith are important.

 

[rosends]

How can you separate Christ from Christianity?

real easy -- Jesus might have existed. Christianity does exist. Bam.

 

[Hector12]

Don’t you get it?

1) Christianity is a religion that exists. Jews know that, and they know that it is comprised of people who believe a man named Jesus who lived 2000 years ago was the Messiah.

2) Jesus himself is not a factor to Jews. He has no bearing on our religion, other than the fact that many people who believe in him are hostile to Jews who won’t do the same, and is never mentioned in our Shabbos services, at Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur, nor at the Seders, nor at Chanukah, nor in any Torah classes we take, nor in any sermons the rabbi gives.

The holiest Jewish prayer is the Shema. It appears in Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:


Jesus says it in Mark 12:26 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

 

[Lisa558]

The holiest Jewish prayer is the Shema. It appears in Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:


Jesus says it in Mark 12:26 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Yep. Just between you and me, Jesus had no intention to start a new religion. He taught traditional Jewish values, albeit with his own “spin” on some, and it was his disciples who decided to form a new religion. Jesus certainly wouldn’t have wanted them to elevate him to a godlike character, as it opposes the Gd is ONE commandment.

I’m sure there were many “Jesuses” in Israel at the time, preaching to a band of followers. He just caught on is all.

 

[Hector12]

Yep. Just between you and me, Jesus had no intention to start a new religion. He taught traditional Jewish values, albeit with his own “spin” on some, and it was his disciples who decided to form a new religion. Jesus certainly wouldn’t have wanted them to elevate him to a godlike character, as it opposes the Gd is ONE commandment.

I’m sure there were many “Jesuses” in Israel at the time, preaching to a band of followers. He just caught on is all.

Christianity began as a Jewish sect. St. James, who was Jesus' next oldest brother, and the first Bishop of Jerusalem. worshiped at the Temple of Jerusalem until his masterdom.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yep. Just between you and me, Jesus had no intention to start a new religion. He taught traditional Jewish values, albeit with his own “spin” on some, and it was his disciples who decided to form a new religion. Jesus certainly wouldn’t have wanted them to elevate him to a godlike character, as it opposes the Gd is ONE commandment.

I’m sure there were many “Jesuses” in Israel at the time, preaching to a band of followers. He just caught on is all.

Those other "Jesuses" were likely zealots promising to restore the glory of Israel. Jesus made it clear that wasn't his purpose at that time.

 

[Hector12]

I recognize that Judaism and Christianity are separate religions with different theologies. Nevertheless, I admire Jews and Judaism, and I love Israel.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The long standing criticism of Jews (and the basis of most antisemitism) is that they did not assimilate. All over Europe there were Jewish communities that refused to assimilate and preferred to remain isolated, distinct.

Yet the hypocrisy today is that many who defend that isolationism amongst Jews condemn it when speaking of other cultures like Muslims for example. We often hear bigots screaming that Muslims refuse to assimilate yet they say nothing about Jews who refuse to assimilate.

 

[Hector12]

The long standing criticism of Jews (and the basis of most antisemitism) is that they did not assimilate. All over Europe there were Jewish communities that refused to assimilate and preferred to remain isolated, distinct.

Yet the hypocrisy today is that many who defend that isolationism amongst Jews condemn it when speaking of other cultures like Muslims for example. We often hear bigots screaming that Muslims refuse to assimilate yet they say nothing about Jews who refuse to assimilate.

Jews did not assimilate because Gentiles did not let them assimilate. Jews were not allowed to own land and to practice most trades and professions.

 

[ding]

Jews did not assimilate because Gentiles did not let them assimilate. Jews were not allowed to own land and to practice most trades and professions.

What's your opinion on the mixing of races?