The reason Socialism prevails is because it's based in psychology

[Tommy Tainant]

Bill Shankly put it best.

Its how we build communities.

The idiots that talk about "sharing" are the welfare queens that don't want to pay their part of the bills and wants to get somebody else to pay for them. That is their idea of sharing. That is the reason why socialism never works.

Socialism is a greedy little scheme by the unproductive to use the force of government to get somebody else to pays their bills. It destroys economies because it is never viable in the long run. It always fails when the wealth that was created under capitalism runs out. .

Your assertions are simplistic and cliched.
The biggest "welfare queens" are the large corporations. What caused the last recession ? Corporate greed did, and it will cause the next one as well.

Glad you brought that up Tammy, because Crony Capitalism is a form of socialism. Essentially it is socialism for the wealthy elites and serfdom for the rest of us. Agreed?

You are just lumping everything you dont like under the banner of socialism. Thats dishonest.

"Usually you get socialism first in its nice, fluffy, cotton candy version where everyone is told they will be taken care of and we are all going to be one big happy family. Then reality hits as the productive people stop working and mediocrity becomes the norm. As problems mount, the government has to impose ever more rules and regulations to control the downward spiral and you get full-blown communism.

"Those people with any gumption try to escape, as we’ve seen previously in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea. Those left behind only intensify the downward trend."

Socialism’s and communism’s useful idiots

Your fantasy has never happened in any country on this planet.

 

[koshergrl]

The idiots that talk about "sharing" are the welfare queens that don't want to pay their part of the bills and wants to get somebody else to pay for them. That is their idea of sharing. That is the reason why socialism never works.

Socialism is a greedy little scheme by the unproductive to use the force of government to get somebody else to pays their bills. It destroys economies because it is never viable in the long run. It always fails when the wealth that was created under capitalism runs out. .

Your assertions are simplistic and cliched.
The biggest "welfare queens" are the large corporations. What caused the last recession ? Corporate greed did, and it will cause the next one as well.

Glad you brought that up Tammy, because Crony Capitalism is a form of socialism. Essentially it is socialism for the wealthy elites and serfdom for the rest of us. Agreed?

You are just lumping everything you dont like under the banner of socialism. Thats dishonest.

"Usually you get socialism first in its nice, fluffy, cotton candy version where everyone is told they will be taken care of and we are all going to be one big happy family. Then reality hits as the productive people stop working and mediocrity becomes the norm. As problems mount, the government has to impose ever more rules and regulations to control the downward spiral and you get full-blown communism.

"Those people with any gumption try to escape, as we’ve seen previously in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea. Those left behind only intensify the downward trend."

Socialism’s and communism’s useful idiots

Your fantasy has never happened in any country on this planet.

"The most famous of these was the New York Times' Moscow correspondent, Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer prize for telling people what they wanted to hear, rather than what was actually happening. Duranty assured his readers that "there is no famine or actual starvation, nor is there likely to be." Moreover, he blamed reports to the contrary on "rumor factories" with anti-Soviet bias.
"... the famine deaths in China under Mao have never been released, but knowledgeable estimates run upwards of 20 million people. Yet, even here, there were the same bland denials by sympathizers and fellow travellers in the West as during the earlier Soviet famine. One celebrated "expert" on China wrote: "I saw no starving people in China, nothing that looked like old-time famines." Horrifying as the pre-Communist famines were, they never killed as many people as Mao's famine did."
"It was decades later before the first serious scholarly study of that famine was written, by Robert Conquest of the Hoover Institution, always identified in politically correct circles as "right-wing." Yet when the Soviets' own statistics on the deaths during the famine were finally released, under Mikhail Gorbachev, they showed that the actual deaths exceeded even the millions estimated by Dr. Conquest."

Thomas Sowell - 'Useful idiots'

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Your assertions are simplistic and cliched.
The biggest "welfare queens" are the large corporations. What caused the last recession ? Corporate greed did, and it will cause the next one as well.

Glad you brought that up Tammy, because Crony Capitalism is a form of socialism. Essentially it is socialism for the wealthy elites and serfdom for the rest of us. Agreed?

You are just lumping everything you dont like under the banner of socialism. Thats dishonest.

"Usually you get socialism first in its nice, fluffy, cotton candy version where everyone is told they will be taken care of and we are all going to be one big happy family. Then reality hits as the productive people stop working and mediocrity becomes the norm. As problems mount, the government has to impose ever more rules and regulations to control the downward spiral and you get full-blown communism.

"Those people with any gumption try to escape, as we’ve seen previously in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea. Those left behind only intensify the downward trend."

Socialism’s and communism’s useful idiots

Your fantasy has never happened in any country on this planet.

"The most famous of these was the New York Times' Moscow correspondent, Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer prize for telling people what they wanted to hear, rather than what was actually happening. Duranty assured his readers that "there is no famine or actual starvation, nor is there likely to be." Moreover, he blamed reports to the contrary on "rumor factories" with anti-Soviet bias.

"It was decades later before the first serious scholarly study of that famine was written, by Robert Conquest of the Hoover Institution, always identified in politically correct circles as "right-wing." Yet when the Soviets' own statistics on the deaths during the famine were finally released, under Mikhail Gorbachev, they showed that the actual deaths exceeded even the millions estimated by Dr. Conquest."

Thomas Sowell - 'Useful idiots'

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Official statistics on the famine deaths in China under Mao have never been released, but knowledgeable estimates run upwards of 20 million people. Yet, even here, there were the same bland denials by sympathizers and fellow travellers in the West as during the earlier Soviet famine. One celebrated "expert" on China wrote: "I saw no starving people in China, nothing that looked like old-time famines." Horrifying as the pre-Communist famines were, they never killed as many people as Mao's famine did.

But these countries were already communist. You described a journey and I would like to understand where this happened.

 

[koshergrl]

Glad you brought that up Tammy, because Crony Capitalism is a form of socialism. Essentially it is socialism for the wealthy elites and serfdom for the rest of us. Agreed?

You are just lumping everything you dont like under the banner of socialism. Thats dishonest.

"Usually you get socialism first in its nice, fluffy, cotton candy version where everyone is told they will be taken care of and we are all going to be one big happy family. Then reality hits as the productive people stop working and mediocrity becomes the norm. As problems mount, the government has to impose ever more rules and regulations to control the downward spiral and you get full-blown communism.

"Those people with any gumption try to escape, as we’ve seen previously in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea. Those left behind only intensify the downward trend."

Socialism’s and communism’s useful idiots

Your fantasy has never happened in any country on this planet.

"The most famous of these was the New York Times' Moscow correspondent, Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer prize for telling people what they wanted to hear, rather than what was actually happening. Duranty assured his readers that "there is no famine or actual starvation, nor is there likely to be." Moreover, he blamed reports to the contrary on "rumor factories" with anti-Soviet bias.

"It was decades later before the first serious scholarly study of that famine was written, by Robert Conquest of the Hoover Institution, always identified in politically correct circles as "right-wing." Yet when the Soviets' own statistics on the deaths during the famine were finally released, under Mikhail Gorbachev, they showed that the actual deaths exceeded even the millions estimated by Dr. Conquest."

Thomas Sowell - 'Useful idiots'

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Official statistics on the famine deaths in China under Mao have never been released, but knowledgeable estimates run upwards of 20 million people. Yet, even here, there were the same bland denials by sympathizers and fellow travellers in the West as during the earlier Soviet famine. One celebrated "expert" on China wrote: "I saw no starving people in China, nothing that looked like old-time famines." Horrifying as the pre-Communist famines were, they never killed as many people as Mao's famine did.

But these countries were already communist. You described a journey and I would like to understand where this happened.

Glad you brought that up Tammy, because Crony Capitalism is a form of socialism. Essentially it is socialism for the wealthy elites and serfdom for the rest of us. Agreed?

You are just lumping everything you dont like under the banner of socialism. Thats dishonest.

"Usually you get socialism first in its nice, fluffy, cotton candy version where everyone is told they will be taken care of and we are all going to be one big happy family. Then reality hits as the productive people stop working and mediocrity becomes the norm. As problems mount, the government has to impose ever more rules and regulations to control the downward spiral and you get full-blown communism.

"Those people with any gumption try to escape, as we’ve seen previously in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea. Those left behind only intensify the downward trend."

Socialism’s and communism’s useful idiots

Your fantasy has never happened in any country on this planet.

"The most famous of these was the New York Times' Moscow correspondent, Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer prize for telling people what they wanted to hear, rather than what was actually happening. Duranty assured his readers that "there is no famine or actual starvation, nor is there likely to be." Moreover, he blamed reports to the contrary on "rumor factories" with anti-Soviet bias.

"It was decades later before the first serious scholarly study of that famine was written, by Robert Conquest of the Hoover Institution, always identified in politically correct circles as "right-wing." Yet when the Soviets' own statistics on the deaths during the famine were finally released, under Mikhail Gorbachev, they showed that the actual deaths exceeded even the millions estimated by Dr. Conquest."

Thomas Sowell - 'Useful idiots'

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Official statistics on the famine deaths in China under Mao have never been released, but knowledgeable estimates run upwards of 20 million people. Yet, even here, there were the same bland denials by sympathizers and fellow travellers in the West as during the earlier Soviet famine. One celebrated "expert" on China wrote: "I saw no starving people in China, nothing that looked like old-time famines." Horrifying as the pre-Communist famines were, they never killed as many people as Mao's famine did.

But these countries were already communist. You described a journey and I would like to understand where this happened.

Get out of here Taint.

 

[Flash]

Bill Shankly put it best.

Its how we build communities.

The idiots that talk about "sharing" are the welfare queens that don't want to pay their part of the bills and wants to get somebody else to pay for them. That is their idea of sharing. That is the reason why socialism never works.

Socialism is a greedy little scheme by the unproductive to use the force of government to get somebody else to pays their bills. It destroys economies because it is never viable in the long run. It always fails when the wealth that was created under capitalism runs out. .

Your assertions are simplistic and cliched.
The biggest "welfare queens" are the large corporations. What caused the last recession ? Corporate greed did, and it will cause the next one as well.

Glad you brought that up Tammy, because Crony Capitalism is a form of socialism. Essentially it is socialism for the wealthy elites and serfdom for the rest of us. Agreed?

You are just lumping everything you dont like under the banner of socialism. Thats dishonest.

"Usually you get socialism first in its nice, fluffy, cotton candy version where everyone is told they will be taken care of and we are all going to be one big happy family. Then reality hits as the productive people stop working and mediocrity becomes the norm. As problems mount, the government has to impose ever more rules and regulations to control the downward spiral and you get full-blown communism.

"Those people with any gumption try to escape, as we’ve seen previously in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea. Those left behind only intensify the downward trend."

Socialism’s and communism’s useful idiots

Cotton candy until the wealth that was created under capitalism runs out. Then that cotton candy turns into a shit sandwich with socialism. We have seen that time and time again. Real time nowadays we are seeing it in Venezuela.

 

[koshergrl]

The idiots that talk about "sharing" are the welfare queens that don't want to pay their part of the bills and wants to get somebody else to pay for them. That is their idea of sharing. That is the reason why socialism never works.

Socialism is a greedy little scheme by the unproductive to use the force of government to get somebody else to pays their bills. It destroys economies because it is never viable in the long run. It always fails when the wealth that was created under capitalism runs out. .

Your assertions are simplistic and cliched.
The biggest "welfare queens" are the large corporations. What caused the last recession ? Corporate greed did, and it will cause the next one as well.

Glad you brought that up Tammy, because Crony Capitalism is a form of socialism. Essentially it is socialism for the wealthy elites and serfdom for the rest of us. Agreed?

You are just lumping everything you dont like under the banner of socialism. Thats dishonest.

"Usually you get socialism first in its nice, fluffy, cotton candy version where everyone is told they will be taken care of and we are all going to be one big happy family. Then reality hits as the productive people stop working and mediocrity becomes the norm. As problems mount, the government has to impose ever more rules and regulations to control the downward spiral and you get full-blown communism.

"Those people with any gumption try to escape, as we’ve seen previously in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea. Those left behind only intensify the downward trend."

Socialism’s and communism’s useful idiots

Cotton candy until the wealth that was created under capitalism runs out. Then that cotton candy turns into a shit sandwich with socialism. We have seen that time and time again. Real time nowadays we are seeing it in Venezuela.

I know. Taint denies reality and wastes everybody time demanding people *prove* stuff that is obvious/has already been proven etc. It's a time honored useful idiot online tactic.

 

[Flash]

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I know. Taint denies reality and wastes everybody time demanding people *prove* stuff that is obvious/has already been proven etc. It's a time honored useful idiot online tactic.

All of these stupid Moon Bats live in a world of denial of reality.

Their ridiculous idea that socialism will somehow work this time if we just give it one more chance here in the US. Absolutely unbelievably ignorant and in denial of reality.

 

[regent]

Many Western economies are mixtures of socialism and capitalism as is the US, and America's economy has been a mixture since before the Constitution was ratified. Whatever socialism might be.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Your assertions are simplistic and cliched.
The biggest "welfare queens" are the large corporations. What caused the last recession ? Corporate greed did, and it will cause the next one as well.

Glad you brought that up Tammy, because Crony Capitalism is a form of socialism. Essentially it is socialism for the wealthy elites and serfdom for the rest of us. Agreed?

You are just lumping everything you dont like under the banner of socialism. Thats dishonest.

"Usually you get socialism first in its nice, fluffy, cotton candy version where everyone is told they will be taken care of and we are all going to be one big happy family. Then reality hits as the productive people stop working and mediocrity becomes the norm. As problems mount, the government has to impose ever more rules and regulations to control the downward spiral and you get full-blown communism.

"Those people with any gumption try to escape, as we’ve seen previously in Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, the Soviet Union, Communist China and North Korea. Those left behind only intensify the downward trend."

Socialism’s and communism’s useful idiots

Cotton candy until the wealth that was created under capitalism runs out. Then that cotton candy turns into a shit sandwich with socialism. We have seen that time and time again. Real time nowadays we are seeing it in Venezuela.

I know. Taint denies reality and wastes everybody time demanding people *prove* stuff that is obvious/has already been proven etc. It's a time honored useful idiot online tactic.

Shouldnt be hard to prove "stuff that is obvious/has already been proven" .

Unless you were just doing your usual brain free ranting.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

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Two-Headed Vulture

Profit is a tax, too. The private-sector regime must be judged the same way its preachers judge the public one. Both are run by the same klnd of people.

Profit is the reward for doing something.

Socialism produces rewards for lazy assholes for doing nothing.

Juniorocracy


Once again, the Plutes' bootlickers can't logically complain about unearned reward and then support the privilege of inheritance. But it is logical to conclude that if the fatcats support Affirmative Action for their fatkittens, they must have gotten their own wealth through luck and cheating. Only suckers believe a patrician believes what he tells us.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

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Profit is a tax, too. The private-sector regime must be judged the same way its preachers judge the public one. Both are run by the same klnd of people.

Profit is the reward for doing something.
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"What Is Best for the 1% Is Best for All You Worthless Little People Too"

Unquantified and unqualified, your statement is meaningless. Rewards are based on dominance, not merit. You bootlickers are only capable of shallow thinking.

Speaking of shallow thinking but you are really confused about this, aren't you?

Profit is the reward for taking risk and doing something. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with your convoluted shit about "dominance", whatever the hell that means in this context.

Profit is a good thing because it drives entrepreneurship, innovation, jobs and wealth.

Socialism is a bad thing because it creates perpetual poverty and rewards non productivity.

You don't create prosperity by taking money away from those that earn it and giving it to those that didn't earn a damn thing, do you? Well maybe in your convoluted uneducated greedy world but not in the real world.

Methinks Thou Doth Protest Too Much

You bootlickers realize that I am exposing the larceny of the Plutes Who Wear the Boots; that's what makes you thow a desperate hissy fit.

"Uneducated"? The acadumbified pride themselves on their university indoctrination and claim that their ideological fantasies represent the Cognitive Elite, If I ever have the time, I'll join one of their blogs (which they mispronounce) and comment only about their 6th Grader's grammar.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

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You have a very simplistic world view. I understand perfectly the point being made.

Much of modern capitalism is about might is right. Buying up competitors and so on. It benefits nobody apart from the corporations. In fact it has a negative influence on the economy,society and the individual.

You are confused,

Government giving away free shit that other people have to pay for and government screwing up everything they touch like you have with Socialism is a far greater danger than competitive market forces.

I trust my well being to somebody trying to make a profit by producing products I want to buy a whole lot more than I do to some stupid government bureaucrat that doesn't give a shit about me and whose boss is a corrupt politician elected by special greedy interest groups.

Caveat Emptor

Pot, meet kettle, which is being sold as "a rare color of gold."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

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I know. Taint denies reality and wastes everybody time demanding people *prove* stuff that is obvious/has already been proven etc. It's a time honored useful idiot online tactic.

All of these stupid Moon Bats live in a world of denial of reality.

Their ridiculous idea that socialism will somehow work this time if we just give it one more chance here in the US. Absolutely unbelievably ignorant and in denial of reality.

The "Good Shepherds" Fleece and Butcher

The most important distinction between Socialism and Capitalism is that there is none. Both mandate outside ownership by a self-apppinted elite of power-hungry zombies. Both are enemies of democracy.