The racism that still plagues America

[hazlnut]

The racism that still plagues America

By 1984, when Ronald Reagan and George Bush beat Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro in the presidential election, many white Democratic voters had come to read their own party’s messages through what Edsall calls a “racial filter.” In their minds, higher taxes were directly attributable to policies of a growing federal government; they were footing the bill for minority preference programs. If the public argument was cast as wasteful spending on people of weak values, the private discussions were explicitly racial. For instance, Edsall quotes polling studies of “Reagan Democrats” in Macomb County—the union friendly Detroit suburbs that won the battle to prevent cross-district school desegregation plans in 1973—that presents poignant evidence of voter anger: “These white Democratic defectors express a profound distaste for blacks, a sentiment that pervades almost everything they think about government and politics. . . . Blacks constitute the explanation for their [white defectors’] vulnerability and for almost everything that has gone wrong in their lives; not being black is what constitutes being middle class; not living with blacks is what makes a neighborhood a decent place to live. These sentiments have important implications for Democrats, as virtually all progressive symbols and themes have been redefined in racial and pejorative terms.”

By 1988, these same voters had endorsed tax revolts across the country and had become steadfast suburbanites, drawing clearer lines between a suburban good life and the crime and crack-infested city. Still they were angry, as magazine articles chronicled the rising political significance of what would be known as the “Angry White Male” voter. George Bush, down seventeen points in the presidential election polls during midsummer, overcame that deficit with TV ads about murderous black convicts raping white women while on furlough. That and a pledge never to raise taxes seemed to be enough to vanquish Bush’s liberal challenger, Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts. What’s important to recognize in this transition is how as recently as twenty years ago, Americans’ social lives were very much embroiled in racial controversy—despite the obfuscatory veneer of colorblind language to the contrary. Our politics followed. The election of Bill Clinton represented a distinct centrist turn among Democrats toward Republican language and themes and away from rights, the “liberal” label, and the federal safety net. The question we might ask about our current race relations is, only a couple of decades removed from this political history, what would compel us to assume that we are beyond the legacy of our racial conflicts?

Great piece on how we got to where we are, and how it's not where we want to be.

 

[chikenwing]

what would compel us to assume that we are beyond the legacy of our racial conflicts?

With the race baiter's we have in DC,relations have been kicked back years,this has been done by people like yourself.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

What a laugher.

 

[Redfish]

what would compel us to assume that we are beyond the legacy of our racial conflicts?

With the race baiter's we have in DC,relations have been kicked back years,this has been done by people like yourself.

People like Sharpton and Jackson need to keep racism alive in order to have a job. Many blacks are now seeing through their lies and dumping them.

But we still have a very racist president who is determined to punish the country for racism of 100 years ago, and to blame all of his failures on the fact that he is half black.

Is that not the worst form of racism?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Whites have always blamed blacks for being divisive. Which really means if you dont agree with them.

Abe Lincoln experienced it first because he had the nerve to suggest slaves should be free. Which was a "divisive" stance at the time

"A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved—I do not expect the house to fall—but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other."[98] The speech created an evocative image of the danger of disunion caused by the slavery debate, and rallied Republicans across the North.[99] The stage was then set for the campaign for statewide election of the Illinois legislature which would, in turn, select Lincoln or Douglas as its U.S. senator.[100]

So when they say Obama is being divisive. Its that he was born black which is, in itself, divisive.

The people they dont consider divisive are the blacks that not only agree with them but will also take a dump on their own people. Shitting on blacks, because they are black, is not divisive. Its seen as a virtue to many whites.

 

[chikenwing]

what would compel us to assume that we are beyond the legacy of our racial conflicts?

With the race baiter's we have in DC,relations have been kicked back years,this has been done by people like yourself.

People like Sharpton and Jackson need to keep racism alive in order to have a job. Many blacks are now seeing through their lies and dumping them.

But we still have a very racist president who is determined to punish the country for racism of 100 years ago, and to blame all of his failures on the fact that he is half black.

Is that not the worst form of racism?

Its most certainly is.

 

[Redfish]

Whites have always blamed blacks for being divisive. Which really means if you dont agree with them.

Abe Lincoln experienced it first because he had the nerve to suggest slaves should be free. Which was a "divisive" stance at the time

"A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved—I do not expect the house to fall—but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other."[98] The speech created an evocative image of the danger of disunion caused by the slavery debate, and rallied Republicans across the North.[99] The stage was then set for the campaign for statewide election of the Illinois legislature which would, in turn, select Lincoln or Douglas as its U.S. senator.[100]

So when they say Obama is being divisive. Its that he was born black which is, in itself, divisive.

The people they dont consider divisive are the blacks that not only agree with them but will also take a dump on their own people. Shitting on blacks, because they are black, is not divisive. Its seen as a virtue to many whites.

totally incorrect.

blaming racism for every problem in the country is divisive.

claiming that blacks are never responsible and whites are always responsible is divisive

BTW, obama is NOT black. His mother was as white as Ann Coulter.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yes, racism from the far left and the far right is still alive.

 

[Redfish]

Yes, racism from the far left and the far right is still alive.

and always will be. The media encourages it, obama encourages it, hollywood encourages it.

Racism is a normal human condition. What we need to do is accept it and then ignore it.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I believe both sides take part in racism. I also believe that blacks spend too much time blaming whites for their problems instead of doing something to advance themselves. DON'T blame whites for your children joining that gang or your inability to raise a family.

Sick of seeing people on the left sticking up for black thugs that knock some innocent person out for walking down the street. Imagine if a klan member walked up and knocked a black person out??? That would be racism. What is the difference???

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The racism that still plagues America

By 1984, when Ronald Reagan and George Bush beat Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro in the presidential election, many white Democratic voters had come to read their own party’s messages through what Edsall calls a “racial filter.” In their minds, higher taxes were directly attributable to policies of a growing federal government; they were footing the bill for minority preference programs. If the public argument was cast as wasteful spending on people of weak values, the private discussions were explicitly racial. For instance, Edsall quotes polling studies of “Reagan Democrats” in Macomb County—the union friendly Detroit suburbs that won the battle to prevent cross-district school desegregation plans in 1973—that presents poignant evidence of voter anger: “These white Democratic defectors express a profound distaste for blacks, a sentiment that pervades almost everything they think about government and politics. . . . Blacks constitute the explanation for their [white defectors’] vulnerability and for almost everything that has gone wrong in their lives; not being black is what constitutes being middle class; not living with blacks is what makes a neighborhood a decent place to live. These sentiments have important implications for Democrats, as virtually all progressive symbols and themes have been redefined in racial and pejorative terms.”

By 1988, these same voters had endorsed tax revolts across the country and had become steadfast suburbanites, drawing clearer lines between a suburban good life and the crime and crack-infested city. Still they were angry, as magazine articles chronicled the rising political significance of what would be known as the “Angry White Male” voter. George Bush, down seventeen points in the presidential election polls during midsummer, overcame that deficit with TV ads about murderous black convicts raping white women while on furlough. That and a pledge never to raise taxes seemed to be enough to vanquish Bush’s liberal challenger, Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts. What’s important to recognize in this transition is how as recently as twenty years ago, Americans’ social lives were very much embroiled in racial controversy—despite the obfuscatory veneer of colorblind language to the contrary. Our politics followed. The election of Bill Clinton represented a distinct centrist turn among Democrats toward Republican language and themes and away from rights, the “liberal” label, and the federal safety net. The question we might ask about our current race relations is, only a couple of decades removed from this political history, what would compel us to assume that we are beyond the legacy of our racial conflicts?

Great piece on how we got to where we are, and how it's not where we want to be.

^ Low information voter likes to copy and paste under one of her many sock accounts

 

[ClosedCaption]

Whites have always blamed blacks for being divisive. Which really means if you dont agree with them.

Abe Lincoln experienced it first because he had the nerve to suggest slaves should be free. Which was a "divisive" stance at the time

"A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved—I do not expect the house to fall—but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other."[98] The speech created an evocative image of the danger of disunion caused by the slavery debate, and rallied Republicans across the North.[99] The stage was then set for the campaign for statewide election of the Illinois legislature which would, in turn, select Lincoln or Douglas as its U.S. senator.[100]

So when they say Obama is being divisive. Its that he was born black which is, in itself, divisive.

The people they dont consider divisive are the blacks that not only agree with them but will also take a dump on their own people. Shitting on blacks, because they are black, is not divisive. Its seen as a virtue to many whites.

totally incorrect.

blaming racism for every problem in the country is divisive.

claiming that blacks are never responsible and whites are always responsible is divisive

BTW, obama is NOT black. His mother was as white as Ann Coulter.

You meant to say blaming racism for ANY problem is divisive.

See Abe Lincoln. And whites have been singing the same song ever since

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Whites have always blamed blacks for being divisive. Which really means if you dont agree with them.

Abe Lincoln experienced it first because he had the nerve to suggest slaves should be free. Which was a "divisive" stance at the time



So when they say Obama is being divisive. Its that he was born black which is, in itself, divisive.

The people they dont consider divisive are the blacks that not only agree with them but will also take a dump on their own people. Shitting on blacks, because they are black, is not divisive. Its seen as a virtue to many whites.

totally incorrect.

blaming racism for every problem in the country is divisive.

claiming that blacks are never responsible and whites are always responsible is divisive

BTW, obama is NOT black. His mother was as white as Ann Coulter.

You meant to say blaming racism for ANY problem is divisive.

See Abe Lincoln. And whites have been singing the same song ever since

Oh you poor poor thing, how have you survived in a WHITE world?

 

[ScienceRocks]

what would compel us to assume that we are beyond the legacy of our racial conflicts?

With the race baiter's we have in DC,relations have been kicked back years,this has been done by people like yourself.

People like Sharpton and Jackson need to keep racism alive in order to have a job. Many blacks are now seeing through their lies and dumping them.

But we still have a very racist president who is determined to punish the country for racism of 100 years ago, and to blame all of his failures on the fact that he is half black.

Is that not the worst form of racism?

They piss people off with their baseless claims of racism as real hatred is being done against us(knock out game, etc). This makes people hate and does nothing to end racism. Both sides need to agree that violence against one another is just wrong.

It would surely be wrong if it was white on black.

 

[Redfish]

what would compel us to assume that we are beyond the legacy of our racial conflicts?

With the race baiter's we have in DC,relations have been kicked back years,this has been done by people like yourself.

People like Sharpton and Jackson need to keep racism alive in order to have a job. Many blacks are now seeing through their lies and dumping them.

But we still have a very racist president who is determined to punish the country for racism of 100 years ago, and to blame all of his failures on the fact that he is half black.

Is that not the worst form of racism?

They piss people off with their baseless claims of racism as real hatred is being done against us(knock out game, etc). This makes people hate and does nothing to end racism. Both sides need to agree that violence against one another is just wrong.

It would surely be wrong if it was white on black.

you are correct. the problem is that there is a segment of the black population that thinks that black on white violence is OK because it is "getting even" for slavery.

 

[ScienceRocks]

What whites and blacks need to do is to talk and be reasonable with one another.

Work on ending the gang violence, problems within the communities and work towards advancing each other....

 

[Redfish]

What whites and blacks need to do is to talk and be reasonable with one another.

Work on ending the gang violence, problems within the communities and work towards advancing each other....

tell that to Sharpton, Jackson, Jackson-Lee, Obama, Beyonce, Oprah, etc.

Where are the black leaders that should be teaching black youth the benefits of education and hard work?

 

[Avatar4321]

Plagues? I am very well aware that racism exists, but I don't see it as plaguing the nation. It's more an unseemly rash than a plague.

I think the problem is the civil rights movement treated symptoms and didn't really end up treating the real problem though I know MLK Jr tried to get people to address it. The problem is the hearts and minds of people werent changed fully. Instead, people went to government to try to solve the problem instead of looking inside themselves. There was an outward solution to an inward problem.

The truth is government cannot solve or end racism. All it can do is drive it underground to a point where people are afraid to speak their true feelings. But that doesn't fix things does it?

Look into your heart. Do you view life through to spectrum of race? If so why? We are all brothers and sisters no matter what your skin color is. We are all children of God.

Until we adopt a life of charity and forgiveness one and all, we will not fix this problem

 

[Freewill]

The truth is, in my opinion, that people are controlled most easily through fear. Blacks have been fed a line of fear that the big bad party that freed their grandfathers from slavery is going to put them back in chains. Which is after all total BS. Then you have people like Biden saying that "THEIR" opponents would not give them the right to vote. Disregarding the sheer absurdity of that statement he is playing on fear. That is why racial division is the watch words with the democrat party. Never mind that people watch a football game rooting for almost exclusively blacks and when the crowd is panned it is almost exclusively white. The racial division in the country was created by the liberal left and is sustained by the liberal left to use for their purposes.

Bush had one of, if not the most, racially represented administrations in history. He was loved for his aid to Africa. But you won't hear that from the DNC. No, they like their minorities right where they are, where they can pretend to protect them from the mean right wing machine.

We find out from the left that minorities are too stupid to obtain voter id.

We find out that all of the poor minorities are black apparently there are no poor whites.

Yes, racism is alive an well in the left wing of the party. Of course there are those on the right that just don't like black people. These people hold no power. These people are in the minority they are fridge but not to listen to the liberal left.

But all that is not to say it is better for a man to work then to be a ward of the government. Helping hand, not a hand out.

 

[ScienceRocks]

What whites and blacks need to do is to talk and be reasonable with one another.

Work on ending the gang violence, problems within the communities and work towards advancing each other....

tell that to Sharpton, Jackson, Jackson-Lee, Obama, Beyonce, Oprah, etc.

Where are the black leaders that should be teaching black youth the benefits of education and hard work?

Exactly, these people whine about the past instead of being roll models for the next generation.