The Public Trough Is Stronger Than God

[Old Rocks]

There is no evidence that you have a brain. The melt in the Arctic, both the sea ice and the permafrost is ample evidence of that, as is the warming of the oceans.

... nevermind the other polar circle, where the sea ice and the ice age glacier, 90% of Earth's ice no less, has been steadily growing for the duration of the FRAUD.

... and the "warming" oceans can't seem to break out of a 150 year record low for 'canes...


Nobody with a brain could possibly fall for this bullshit...

LOL LaDumbkopf, how things change.

 

[Old Rocks]

OK, so you 21st century Lysenkoists get your wish, and shut down the climate and weather research in the US. That will just put us behind in science compared to China, Japan, and Russia. And, when the inevitable surprises occur in sea level rise, extreme weather events, we will be caught unprepared because of idiots like you fellows.

 

[ding]

OK, so you 21st century Lysenkoists get your wish, and shut down the climate and weather research in the US. That will just put us behind in science compared to China, Japan, and Russia. And, when the inevitable surprises occur in sea level rise, extreme weather events, we will be caught unprepared because of idiots like you fellows.

For the sake of argument, let's say you are correct. How exactly will they be better prepared to handle sea level rise and extreme weather events? Will they have built a magic shield or something?

 

[Crick]

They will have acted.

 

[Manonthestreet]

We alrdy saved the planet by meeting our Kyoto target....Let me know when the others catch up.......Trump needs to fast track nukes and shitcan solar.

 

[Crick]

I agree that fast tracking nuclear power is a good idea but why would you want to shitcan a competitive technology with (for PVs) no moving parts and zero fuel costs?

 

[Manonthestreet]

I agree that fast tracking nuclear power is a good idea but why would you want to shitcan a competitive technology with (for PVs) no moving parts and zero fuel costs?

I prefer a first world economy.....Have tried several.solar charging products ...Radio....flashlights, battery chargers for cell phones and for household batteries...... Only one that worked reasonably well was one small flashlight. Now if they can't get the small stuff that is used infrequently to work I really don't want to bet the economy on it......

 

[Crick]

Really? That's the basis of your contention that Trump should trash solar power? Personal radios and flashlights?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Got a friend who put the solar power on his house....Eight grand. Threw in some roof whirly gigs for when sun wasnt shining ....Guess how much he has saved .....0.....Hasn't used it once....EU companies were coming to US during O admin due to skyrocketing energy costs.....See your propaganda of free energy doesn't match reality......
.Glenn Beck has a solar generator to sell ya....

 

[Crick]

Thousands of people have put solar power on their homes and do use them and do save money. Why has your friend not used his system?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Don't know...He hasn't said much...Why he leaves it up as constant reminder to his wife of huge waste is beyond me too.....Either waste more money to make it "work" or remove it. Star Tribune ran an article on a rooftop system the Henn CTY govt put on a building in Medina .....Bottom line in 30 yr lifespan it would not pay for itself.....

 

[konradv]

Evidence?

there is no evidence for global warming.

How about logic?

Certain gases are known to absorb infrared radiation.

The concentration of those gases in the atmosphere has been rising, since the advent of the Industrial Revolution.

Therefore, if the trend continues, warming is inevitable.

 

[Crick]

Don't know...He hasn't said much...Why he leaves it up as constant reminder to his wife of huge waste is beyond me too.....Either waste more money to make it "work" or remove it. Star Tribune ran an article on a rooftop system the Henn CTY govt put on a building in Medina .....Bottom line in 30 yr lifespan it would not pay for itself.....

Doesn't it seem to you that basing your conclusions on individual installations when data are available for tens of thousands of them (and directly contradicts your single system's report) is a poor decision?

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If home solar installations just didn't work, do you actually believe one million American households would have had them installed?

 

[ding]

They will have acted.

That's good because we aren't the problem, lol.

 

[ding]

Evidence?

there is no evidence for global warming.

How about logic?

Certain gases are known to absorb infrared radiation.

The concentration of those gases in the atmosphere has been rising, since the advent of the Industrial Revolution.

Therefore, if the trend continues, warming is inevitable.

Are you ignoring the natural climate variations which are known to have existed and were not driven by atmospheric CO2?

 

[Crick]

Evidence?

there is no evidence for global warming.

Go to www.ipcc.ch and read WG-I, The Physical Science Basis. Tens of thousands of published, peer-reviewed studies have found evidentiary support for AGW. Now you actually said there's no evidence for global warming. That is, you seem to believe the global temperature has not been increasing. That statement is utter nonsense, so I assume you actually meant man-made global warming.

 

[konradv]

Certain gases are known to absorb infrared radiation. The concentration of those gases in the atmosphere has been rising, since the advent of the Industrial Revolution. Therefore, if the trend continues, warming is inevitable.

Are you ignoring the natural climate variations which are known to have existed and were not driven by atmospheric CO2?

Of course not. If there's any ignoring going on, it's on the part of the denialists. They ignore the time course of natural climatic changes that usually develop over tens to hundreds of thousands of years versus AGW theory which postulates that human activity has effected the climate over a matter of a few hundred years.

 

[ding]

Certain gases are known to absorb infrared radiation.
The concentration of those gases in the atmosphere has been rising, since the advent of the Industrial Revolution.
Therefore, if the trend continues, warming is inevitable.

Are you ignoring the natural climate variations which are known to have existed and were not driven by atmospheric CO2?

Of course not. If there's any ignoring going on, it's on the part of the denialists. They ignore the time course of natural climatic changes that usually develop over tens to hundreds of thousands of years versus AGW theory which postulates that human activity has effected the climate over a matter of a few hundred years.

Natural variations act on timescales of less than 30 years too.

 

[konradv]

Certain gases are known to absorb infrared radiation. The concentration of those gases in the atmosphere has been rising, since the advent of the Industrial Revolution. Therefore, if the trend continues, warming is inevitable.

Are you ignoring the natural climate variations which are known to have existed and were not driven by atmospheric CO2?

Of course not. If there's any ignoring going on, it's on the part of the denialists. They ignore the time course of natural climatic changes that usually develop over tens to hundreds of thousands of years versus AGW theory which postulates that human activity has effected the climate over a matter of a few hundred years.

Natural variations act on timescales of less than 30 years too.

Such as?

 

[Crick]

To whom was "Such as?" directed?