The Propaganda Campaign To Wreck Social Security Is Right On Track

[skews13]

And the defeatism about America’s retirement plan is getting worse (or, if you consider Social Security akin to communism and want to destroy it, better). The survey shows a big bump compared with last year in the number of people who expect to have to keep working in retirement because Social Security won’t be able to support them, and a big bump in the numbers planning to start claiming benefits early even while working. Some 42% now plan to file for benefits early, up from 36% just a year ago.

If you figure the system is about to go broke, you’d want to start claiming as soon as possible so you at least get something, right? Especially if you are genuinely worried you won’t see “a dime” of the benefits you’ve earned.

The propaganda scam against Social Security is proving to be a master class. It is and has always been a massively popular government program, right from when it was started. Politicians used to call Social Security the third rail of American politics: “Touch it and die.” So how do you persuade people to kill off a popular program? Simple: You persuade them it’s already dead!

Genius!

This is how people like senators Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney can hold out the prospect of cutting back on Social Security benefits if their party wins the midterm elections and apparently nobody cares.

After all, it’s already dead, right?

(There is something especially ironic about being told that Social Security can’t be saved by a multi, multimillionaire senator who pays 14% tax, while people busing tables pay 15.3% FICA, plus whatever in income tax.)

MSN

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Social Security can easily be fixed, by simply raising the salary on contributions, and means testing. Don't let the Marie Antoinettes try to convince you otherwise.

 

[johngaltshrugged]

Good, we need to phase out Social Security.
It is none of the govt's business to confiscate our money to supposedly take care of us when we retire.

Freedom comes with responsibility & saving for the future is just common sense that the feds have tried to replace with a Big Brother type system that is going to be completely broke before most of us retire.

Get rid of it

 

[pknopp]

I support keeping S.S. but S.S. was never intended to fully support you.

That it used to do a better job of that is true but that really isn't a problem with S.S. but with American greed.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

I support keeping S.S. but S.S. was never intended to fully support you.

That it used to do a better job of that is true but that really isn't a problem with S.S. but with American greed.

Agreed, and Social Security was supposed to be a security net for you to live on at poverty level and help boost your retirement pay and not be what you live on solely in your retirement.

People like the Op has this delusion believing Social Security is your main source of income in retirement while it is not and you should have put away money on top of it…

 

[struth]

And the defeatism about America’s retirement plan is getting worse (or, if you consider Social Security akin to communism and want to destroy it, better). The survey shows a big bump compared with last year in the number of people who expect to have to keep working in retirement because Social Security won’t be able to support them, and a big bump in the numbers planning to start claiming benefits early even while working. Some 42% now plan to file for benefits early, up from 36% just a year ago.

If you figure the system is about to go broke, you’d want to start claiming as soon as possible so you at least get something, right? Especially if you are genuinely worried you won’t see “a dime” of the benefits you’ve earned.

The propaganda scam against Social Security is proving to be a master class. It is and has always been a massively popular government program, right from when it was started. Politicians used to call Social Security the third rail of American politics: “Touch it and die.” So how do you persuade people to kill off a popular program? Simple: You persuade them it’s already dead!

Genius!

This is how people like senators Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney can hold out the prospect of cutting back on Social Security benefits if their party wins the midterm elections and apparently nobody cares.

After all, it’s already dead, right?

(There is something especially ironic about being told that Social Security can’t be saved by a multi, multimillionaire senator who pays 14% tax, while people busing tables pay 15.3% FICA, plus whatever in income tax.)

MSN

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Social Security can easily be fixed, by simply raising the salary on contributions, and means testing. Don't let the Marie Antoinettes try to convince you otherwise.

SS can easily be fixed by taking more money from people to pay other people! Ponzu said the same thing about his investment plans

 

[Polishprince]

Actually, employees only pay 7.65% FICA tax, and then only up to a maximum contribution.

Employers pay an equal amount.

People who bus tables are employees.

Business owners are the only ones who pay 15.3%.

 

[Lesh]

And the defeatism about America’s retirement plan is getting worse (or, if you consider Social Security akin to communism and want to destroy it, better). The survey shows a big bump compared with last year in the number of people who expect to have to keep working in retirement because Social Security won’t be able to support them, and a big bump in the numbers planning to start claiming benefits early even while working. Some 42% now plan to file for benefits early, up from 36% just a year ago.

If you figure the system is about to go broke, you’d want to start claiming as soon as possible so you at least get something, right? Especially if you are genuinely worried you won’t see “a dime” of the benefits you’ve earned.

The propaganda scam against Social Security is proving to be a master class. It is and has always been a massively popular government program, right from when it was started. Politicians used to call Social Security the third rail of American politics: “Touch it and die.” So how do you persuade people to kill off a popular program? Simple: You persuade them it’s already dead!

Genius!

This is how people like senators Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney can hold out the prospect of cutting back on Social Security benefits if their party wins the midterm elections and apparently nobody cares.

After all, it’s already dead, right?

(There is something especially ironic about being told that Social Security can’t be saved by a multi, multimillionaire senator who pays 14% tax, while people busing tables pay 15.3% FICA, plus whatever in income tax.)

MSN

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Social Security can easily be fixed, by simply raising the salary on contributions, and means testing. Don't let the Marie Antoinettes try to convince you otherwise.

Republicans have been attacking Social Security in this way for decades

 

[Mr Natural]

Eliminate the earnings cap. Problem solved.

 

[Woodznutz]

SS is vital, as people don't, won't, or can't save of their own volition.

 

[Lesh]

Eliminate the earnings cap. Problem solved.

But that would be a tax increase on wealthy folks.

Republican mantra says that can’t happen no matter how much sense it makes

 

[Polishprince]

Eliminate the earnings cap. Problem solved.

A massive increase in taxes is always the Liberal Solution.


How about , instead, eliminating the tax on Social Security benefits? Won't have to pay as much in SS benefits, if you abstain from taking back with the left hand what you gave with the right?

 

[struth]

the left wants to destroy SS…the program as is is not substainable…no ponzi set up is

we need reform, we should model reform after Sweden

 

[22lcidw]

I support keeping S.S. but S.S. was never intended to fully support you.

That it used to do a better job of that is true but that really isn't a problem with S.S. but with American greed.

Shut up. In the 1980's there was conversations on fixing SS. And those who said to make it partially private we told to shut up. They came up with a cure for it. Massive SS tax increases and utopia. It improved the way of living for those at the time. But times move forward. The money taken from those working was put into the general government fund. As an example,...all of those people rioting and burning down buildings were given checks and benefits in their lives from the taxes of employees being treated as slaves.

 

[Polishprince]

Shut up. In the 1980's there was conversations on fixing SS. And those who said to make it partially private we told to shut up. They came up with a cure for it. Massive SS tax increases and utopia. It improved the way of living for those at the time. But times move forward. The money taken from those working was put into the general government fund. As an example,...all of those people rioting and burning down buildings were given checks and benefits in their lives from the taxes of employees being treated as slaves.

In the 2000's, Dubya tried to pass a law having Social Security invest the contributions in the equity markets.

Considering how much the markets have gone up since President Bush made the proposal, its apparent that the libs who opposed this are responsible for the low rate of SS benefits today.

Will Sleepy Joe, B. Hussein O, et al accept responsibility and quit trying to punish Americans over their snafu?

 

[pknopp]

In the 2000's, Dubya tried to pass a law having Social Security invest the contributions in the equity markets.

Considering how much the markets have gone up since President Bush made the proposal, its apparent that the libs who opposed this are responsible for the low rate of SS benefits today.

Will Sleepy Joe, B. Hussein O, et al accept responsibility and quit trying to punish Americans over their snafu?

Clinton first did that in 1999 and as bad as politicians are (and they are bad) I still trust them more than Wall Street.

 

[BS Filter]

Republicans have been attacking Social Security in this way for decades

Nope. Democrats have been saying what you just did ever since Social Security became available.

 

[Lesh]

A massive increase in taxes is always the Liberal Solution.


How about , instead, eliminating the tax on Social Security benefits? Won't have to pay as much in SS benefits, if you abstain from taking back with the left hand what you gave with the right?

Oh yea.. there’s a “fix”

Moron

 

[Lesh]

Nope. Democrats have been saying what you just did ever since Social Security became available.

In response to incessant Republican attacks on Social Security

 

[BS Filter]

In response to incessant Republican attacks on Social Security

When Republicans had a super majority in Congress and held the White House, what did the do to hurt Social Security?

 

[pknopp]

When Republicans had a super majority in Congress and held the White House, what did the do to hurt Social Security?

The same thing Democrats did about guns when Obama was president and they held majorities.