Zone1 The Problem Is Guns, And Easy Access To Guns

[frigidweirdo]

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds.

Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the United States in 2020, or roughly 5.6 per 100,000 children. The U.S. is the only country among its peers that has seen a substantial increase in the rate of child firearm deaths in the last two decades (42%).

Firearms are the Leading Cause of Death for Children in the United States But Rank No Higher Than Fifth in Other Industrialized Nations | KFF

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds. Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the...

www.kff.org

Firearms are the leading cause of death for children and teens in the US.

everytownresearch.org

Preventing Gun Violence, the Leading Cause of Childhood Death

In 2020, firearm-related injuries surpassed motor vehicle crashes to become the leading cause of death among children and adolescents in the United States. Dr. Bianchi highlights NICHD-supported research to prevent firearm violence and reduce the related deaths, injuries, and trauma.

www.nichd.nih.gov

The problem is guns, and the easy access to guns

Yes, that and people who don't want to care.

 

[jotathought]

Guns really haven't changed much the last 100 years: you could get a high rate of fire, large magazine capacities, large calibers and many of the same characteristics we see today. On the other hand, society has drastically changed over the last 100 years ... Doesn't take rocket science ..

If it were really about deaths .. there would be many other competitors we rarely hear about (e.g. alcohol, illegal immigration, drugs, etc ..)

 

[candycorn]

The problem is guns, and the easy access to guns

Everyone knows this. We're just not adult enough to admit it and address it.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds.

Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the United States in 2020, or roughly 5.6 per 100,000 children. The U.S. is the only country among its peers that has seen a substantial increase in the rate of child firearm deaths in the last two decades (42%).

Firearms are the Leading Cause of Death for Children in the United States But Rank No Higher Than Fifth in Other Industrialized Nations | KFF

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds. Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the...

www.kff.org

Firearms are the leading cause of death for children and teens in the US.

everytownresearch.org

Preventing Gun Violence, the Leading Cause of Childhood Death

In 2020, firearm-related injuries surpassed motor vehicle crashes to become the leading cause of death among children and adolescents in the United States. Dr. Bianchi highlights NICHD-supported research to prevent firearm violence and reduce the related deaths, injuries, and trauma.

www.nichd.nih.gov

The problem is guns, and the easy access to guns

Guns don't jump up and shoot by themselves they need fingers to pull the trigger

 

[Grumblenuts]

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The problem with most everything today developed out of/from the 60's mentality when communist/left wing ideology infected the political system...
...what we are seeing and experiencing today in America is the intent of that infection, to bring down a system from the inside that would lay waste to a left-wing ideology that has never fared well against us head to head.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The problem is guns, and the easy access to guns

And when did this become a problem...any timeline? i.e. dates, events, catalyst(s) of sort?

 

[WinterBorn]

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds.

Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the United States in 2020, or roughly 5.6 per 100,000 children. The U.S. is the only country among its peers that has seen a substantial increase in the rate of child firearm deaths in the last two decades (42%).

Firearms are the Leading Cause of Death for Children in the United States But Rank No Higher Than Fifth in Other Industrialized Nations | KFF

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds. Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the...

www.kff.org

Firearms are the leading cause of death for children and teens in the US.

everytownresearch.org

Preventing Gun Violence, the Leading Cause of Childhood Death

In 2020, firearm-related injuries surpassed motor vehicle crashes to become the leading cause of death among children and adolescents in the United States. Dr. Bianchi highlights NICHD-supported research to prevent firearm violence and reduce the related deaths, injuries, and trauma.

www.nichd.nih.gov

The problem is guns, and the easy access to guns

First of all, when you look at the age group 1-19, does that take into account those "children" serving in the military. My nextdoor neighbor when I was a kid got drafted and dropped in a jungle with an M16. If he died, would that be part of your statistics? As a child?

And we need to have it broken down by HOW they died from a gun. Accidental deaths are because someone was stupid. Period. Poorly stored, lack of training or info, and other things are just ignorance by whomever is in charge of the gun. And suicides are not part of this. The only thing we know about someone who committed suicide with a gun is that they really, truly wanted to die. Do you think someone who truly wants to die won't find a way? The proof is Australia. When they passed their massive gun control act, the effect on suicide rates for most of the country was largely uneffected. In a few areas they actually rose by a small margin.

 

[Mindful]

First of all, when you look at the age group 1-19, does that take into account those "children" serving in the military. My nextdoor neighbor when I was a kid got drafted and dropped in a jungle with an M16. If he died, would that be part of your statistics? As a child?

That’s a good point. Raises all sorts of issues.

 

[Mindful]

^ like this, for instance. >>


Child soldiers are often “recruited” through abductions, through force with the only alternative being death or torture, some join in order to escape poverty, while some join in order to protect their families and communities. The life of a child soldier is hard and their treatment inhumane as they aren’t just used in a combat capacity but are also used in supporting roles such as cooking, carrying messages, or worse, used as sex slaves. Many are fed drugs in order to keep them decrease the fear they feel in combat, a strategy that forces a drug addiction and makes it harder for these child soldiers to adjust to life outside of war. Those who do make it out often suffer severe PTSD for the rest of their lives.


What these children are firsthand witnesses to are events that we react with horror learning them secondhand from our teachers and textbooks. There were child soldiers present during the Rwandan genocide in 1994, the civil war in Sierra Leone, guerilla attacks in Colombia and Sri Lanka, and were used as suicide bombers by the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, the Taliban in Afghanistan, and the Islamic Jihad in Palestine to name a few. Child soldiers were used to kill their own families as well as other noncombatants in these situations. Children are not just recruited by non state groups, many governments, including the United States recruits those under 18 for military purposes, although not all place them in combat situations until the age of 18 is reached. In fact, many more children, approximately 500,000 are at any time serve in government armies or paramilitary groups.

Child Soldiers – Children of War

sites.psu.edu

 

[Grumblenuts]

And when did this become a problem...any timeline? i.e. dates, events, catalyst(s) of sort?

Ahem..
From OP link.. first sentence..
"Firearms recently became the number one cause of death for children in the United States, surpassing motor vehicle deaths and those caused by other injuries."

Figure 1.Leading Causes of Death among Children and Adolescents in the United States, 1999 through 2020.

Any more incredibly stupid comments or questions?
Yes, "Car crashes!" have now been removed from your knee-jerk reaction inventory.
Now what do you do?
"Rwanda!"
"Australia!" -- LOL.

 

[Grumblenuts]

First of all, when you look at the age group 1-19, does that take into account those "children" serving in the military.

Why, does that disqualify them from being "children" or in "the age group 1-19"?
Oh, I get it.. Of course they're all instantly deployed overseas so technically no longer "children in the United States"!
Clever!

More guns!

 

[hadit]

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds.

Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the United States in 2020, or roughly 5.6 per 100,000 children. The U.S. is the only country among its peers that has seen a substantial increase in the rate of child firearm deaths in the last two decades (42%).

Firearms are the Leading Cause of Death for Children in the United States But Rank No Higher Than Fifth in Other Industrialized Nations | KFF

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds. Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the...

www.kff.org

Firearms are the leading cause of death for children and teens in the US.

everytownresearch.org

Preventing Gun Violence, the Leading Cause of Childhood Death

In 2020, firearm-related injuries surpassed motor vehicle crashes to become the leading cause of death among children and adolescents in the United States. Dr. Bianchi highlights NICHD-supported research to prevent firearm violence and reduce the related deaths, injuries, and trauma.

www.nichd.nih.gov

The problem is guns, and the easy access to guns

Important quote from what you wrote: "substantial increase in the rate of child firearm deaths in the last two decades". How are guns the problem when we have had ready access to guns literally for centuries and only NOW the rate is increasing? Something else is going on.

 

[WinterBorn]

Why, does that disqualify them from being "children" or in "the age group 1-19"?
Oh, I get it.. Of course they're all instantly deployed overseas so technically no longer "children in the United States"!
Clever!

More guns!

Well, I think most people don't consider someone old enough to vote, drive, and smoke legally to be a child. Plus, forcing children to register for the draft looks bad.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Well, I think most people don't consider someone old enough to vote, drive, and smoke legally to be a child. Plus, forcing children to register for the draft looks bad.

So does being dead!

 

[WinterBorn]

So does being dead!

No doubt. But including 18 & 19 year olds in these stats makes them suspect.

 

[Grumblenuts]

No doubt. But including 18 & 19 year olds in these stats makes them suspect.

Speaking of "suspect" -- How's that Cop City of yours coming along?

 

[2aguy]

Where are you getting 15 million?

That is a low estimate for the European mass murder after they banned guns....

NAZI GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER



German socialists

By genocide, the murder of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, "euthanasia," starvation, exposure, medical experiments, and terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from 15,003,000 to 31,595,000 people, most likely 20,946,000 men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, and many others.

Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1

And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths

http://[URL='http://hawaii.edu/powe...]http://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM

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[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds.

Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the United States in 2020, or roughly 5.6 per 100,000 children. The U.S. is the only country among its peers that has seen a substantial increase in the rate of child firearm deaths in the last two decades (42%).

Firearms are the Leading Cause of Death for Children in the United States But Rank No Higher Than Fifth in Other Industrialized Nations | KFF

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States, but rank no higher than fifth in 11 other large and wealthy countries, a new KFF analysis finds. Guns – including accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides – killed 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the...

www.kff.org

Firearms are the leading cause of death for children and teens in the US.

everytownresearch.org

Preventing Gun Violence, the Leading Cause of Childhood Death

In 2020, firearm-related injuries surpassed motor vehicle crashes to become the leading cause of death among children and adolescents in the United States. Dr. Bianchi highlights NICHD-supported research to prevent firearm violence and reduce the related deaths, injuries, and trauma.

www.nichd.nih.gov

The problem is guns, and the easy access to guns

The above argument is incorrect my friend. In the American past the American citizens had easier access to guns and yet there were less gun deaths.

The problem for perhaps the last 20 years has been the rise of pornography, the rise of drug use, the rise of Internet usage, people on the computers all the time playing too many video games. The rise of the divorce rate in America. The feminization of men.

These were all not issues in the American past when clearly our country was safer. I mean just look at 9 11 look at how people had to go through all of the security checkpoint at airports after 9/11 and to this day… and how that did not exist in the 1980s or 1970s. I mean the writing is on the wall my friend

 

[Grumblenuts]

The above argument is incorrect my friend. In the American past the American citizens had easier access to guns and yet there were less gun deaths.

The problem for perhaps the last 20 years has been the rise of pornography, the rise of drug use, the rise of Internet usage, people on the computers all the time playing too many video games. The rise of the divorce rate in America. The feminization of men.

These were all not issues in the American past when clearly our country was safer. I mean just look at 9 11 look at how people had to go through all of the security checkpoint at airports after 9/11 and to this day… and how that did not exist in the 1980s or 1970s. I mean the writing is on the wall my friend

Just preserving this gem for posterity.