The Presidents In My Lifetime, Compared To Barack Obama! {KING}

[Uncensored2008]

You don't know me, either. But you will see with time. Have a nice day.

Sure I do. You are a low-IQ leftist (redundant) who spouts idiotic talking points from the leftist hate sites.

There are thousands like you here.

 

[Statistikhengst]

You don't know me, either. But you will see with time. Have a nice day.

Sure I do. You are a low-IQ leftist (redundant) who spouts idiotic talking points from the leftist hate sites.

There are thousands like you here.

Uhuh....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Uhuh....

Look, no one takes you seriously - you have no credibility to lose; still that is the level of shit that makes all sides dismiss you as an idiot.

{So, let's get more complicated. When there was a 94% top rate in 1944-45, there were so many deductions and exclusions that the taxable income was not comparable to someone's entire income. First, the top rate started at $200,000, which today is equal to $2,413,059.90 — so the maximum EMTR would apply only to incomes of $2.5 million. But, that's still taxable income, not earned income.

In 1944, you could deduct business meals, all business travel, all forms of interest payments, and much more. You could even deduct spousal travel expenses on a business trip! (Why travel alone?) Companies could also "loan" or "provide" almost anything to an employee, from an apartment to standard benefits. It was possible to shelter tens of thousands of dollars from taxable income. Three-martini lunches and expense accounts were important realities, skewing tax calculations.

As a result of deductions and exclusions, even the theoretical maximum Real Rate of taxation at 60% in 1944 overstates taxation dramatically. The reality? On earned income, the richest U.S. taxpayers paid close to 40 percent of their earned incomes in taxes in 1944. We simply didn't count much of the compensation as taxable income. }

Almost Classical: The 90% Tax Rate Myth

So, in 2010 dollars (second number actual tax paid for period,) this worked out to;

Here were the tax liabilities in 1944 (effective rate in parenthesis):

$25,000 – $5,750 (23.0%)
$50,000 – $11,990 (24.0%)
$100,000 – $27,390 (27.4%)
$200,000 – $70,422 (35.2%)
$400,000 – $191,411 (47.9%)

JFK slashed rates, but closed a lot of loopholes, the effect;

Here were the tax liabilities for our four sample families (again, adjusted for inflation):

$25,000 – $3,834 (15.3%) …down $1,915
$50,000 – $8,530 (17.1%) …down $3,459
$100,000 – $19,875 (19.9%) …down $7,515
$200,000 – $51,545 (25.8%) …down $18,877
$400,000 – $146,209 (36.6%) …down $45,201

Notice that taxes went down, despite the economy booming and revenue to the federal government skyrocketing.

Now Reagan;


$25,000 – $2,317 (9.3%) …down $1,517
$50,000 – $6,989 (10.0%) …down $1,540
$100,000 – $22,167 (22.2%) …up $2,292
$200,000 – $64,888 (32.4%) …up $13,343
$400,000 – $163,959 (41.0%) …up $17,749

Despite the lies of the left, ACTUAL taxes on those making more than $100K went up. How is this possible? Because the loopholes were closed.

A comparative view of tax policy changes since 1944 | GOPCenter.com


You mindless fuckwad.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Uhuh....

Look, no one takes you seriously - you have no credibility to lose; still that is the level of shit that makes all sides dismiss you as an idiot.

{So, let's get more complicated. When there was a 94% top rate in 1944-45, there were so many deductions and exclusions that the taxable income was not comparable to someone's entire income. First, the top rate started at $200,000, which today is equal to $2,413,059.90 — so the maximum EMTR would apply only to incomes of $2.5 million. But, that's still taxable income, not earned income.

In 1944, you could deduct business meals, all business travel, all forms of interest payments, and much more. You could even deduct spousal travel expenses on a business trip! (Why travel alone?) Companies could also "loan" or "provide" almost anything to an employee, from an apartment to standard benefits. It was possible to shelter tens of thousands of dollars from taxable income. Three-martini lunches and expense accounts were important realities, skewing tax calculations.

As a result of deductions and exclusions, even the theoretical maximum Real Rate of taxation at 60% in 1944 overstates taxation dramatically. The reality? On earned income, the richest U.S. taxpayers paid close to 40 percent of their earned incomes in taxes in 1944. We simply didn't count much of the compensation as taxable income. }

Almost Classical: The 90% Tax Rate Myth

So, in 2010 dollars (second number actual tax paid for period,) this worked out to;

Here were the tax liabilities in 1944 (effective rate in parenthesis):

$25,000 – $5,750 (23.0%)
$50,000 – $11,990 (24.0%)
$100,000 – $27,390 (27.4%)
$200,000 – $70,422 (35.2%)
$400,000 – $191,411 (47.9%)

JFK slashed rates, but closed a lot of loopholes, the effect;

Here were the tax liabilities for our four sample families (again, adjusted for inflation):

$25,000 – $3,834 (15.3%) …down $1,915
$50,000 – $8,530 (17.1%) …down $3,459
$100,000 – $19,875 (19.9%) …down $7,515
$200,000 – $51,545 (25.8%) …down $18,877
$400,000 – $146,209 (36.6%) …down $45,201

Notice that taxes went down, despite the economy booming and revenue to the federal government skyrocketing.

Now Reagan;


$25,000 – $2,317 (9.3%) …down $1,517
$50,000 – $6,989 (10.0%) …down $1,540
$100,000 – $22,167 (22.2%) …up $2,292
$200,000 – $64,888 (32.4%) …up $13,343
$400,000 – $163,959 (41.0%) …up $17,749

Despite the lies of the left, ACTUAL taxes on those making more than $100K went up. How is this possible? Because the loopholes were closed.

A comparative view of tax policy changes since 1944 | GOPCenter.com


You mindless fuckwad.

Uhuh....

 

[Black_Man1]

There I was, in the 2nd grade, and then..

RONALD REAGAN was elected.

Reagan would get on tv and call Iranians TERRORISTS!!






and then he got caught up in a scandle called The Iran-Contra Affair. Where he was selling guns to them.

Reagan.

Used the money from selling terrorists guns, to finance an illegal war in Nicarauga!

Reagan.

For all we know, the man was suffering from ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE in his second term!

That's the kind of disease where you don't remember what you did last week. AND HE'S THE PRESIDENT!!??

OMG

I used to think he was a smooth talker when his favorite line to reporters was "I don't recall that."

Turns out, he wasn't joking at all!

Reagan.

It was under Reagan that America got flooded with CRACK COCAINE that dessimated a generation of poor and minorities.

Selling guns to terrorists, can't remember important things, starting illegal wars, and the crack epidemic flourishes under your watch.


GTFOH!!

 

[chikenwing]

And all of that at 2 years old,truly astounding!!

 

[Kosh]

I see the far left programming and hypocrisy is in full play here.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

There is, and has always been, a tremendous amount of opposition to the presidency of Obama. Many in here and throughout America think his administration is a disaster.

How soon we forget!

Let us now take a trip down Memory Lane, and see who exactly Barack Obama is, compared to the presidents I saw before him. Once we can be honest about who we have had to endure, MAYBE we can have a new found respect for our current Commander-In-Chief.


KING!

Three of Clubs!

 

[Flopper]

There I was, in the 2nd grade, and then..

RONALD REAGAN was elected.

Reagan would get on tv and call Iranians TERRORISTS!!






and then he got caught up in a scandle called The Iran-Contra Affair. Where he was selling guns to them.

Reagan.

Used the money from selling terrorists guns, to finance an illegal war in Nicarauga!

Reagan.

For all we know, the man was suffering from ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE in his second term!

That's the kind of disease where you don't remember what you did last week. AND HE'S THE PRESIDENT!!??

OMG

I used to think he was a smooth talker when his favorite line to reporters was "I don't recall that."

Turns out, he wasn't joking at all!

Reagan.

It was under Reagan that America got flooded with CRACK COCAINE that dessimated a generation of poor and minorities.

Selling guns to terrorists, can't remember important things, starting illegal wars, and the crack epidemic flourishes under your watch.


GTFOH!!

IMHO, Reagan was a masterful communicator, a pretty good actor but not one of our best presidents. It's far too soon to judge Obama.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

There I was, in the 2nd grade, and then..

RONALD REAGAN was elected.

Reagan would get on tv and call Iranians TERRORISTS!!






and then he got caught up in a scandle called The Iran-Contra Affair. Where he was selling guns to them.

Reagan.

Used the money from selling terrorists guns, to finance an illegal war in Nicarauga!

Reagan.

For all we know, the man was suffering from ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE in his second term!

That's the kind of disease where you don't remember what you did last week. AND HE'S THE PRESIDENT!!??

OMG

I used to think he was a smooth talker when his favorite line to reporters was "I don't recall that."

Turns out, he wasn't joking at all!

Reagan.

It was under Reagan that America got flooded with CRACK COCAINE that dessimated a generation of poor and minorities.

Selling guns to terrorists, can't remember important things, starting illegal wars, and the crack epidemic flourishes under your watch.


GTFOH!!

OMFG!

Crack_Man.1 is hilarious.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There I was, in the 2nd grade, and then..

RONALD REAGAN was elected.

Reagan would get on tv and call Iranians TERRORISTS!!






and then he got caught up in a scandle called The Iran-Contra Affair. Where he was selling guns to them.

Reagan.

Used the money from selling terrorists guns, to finance an illegal war in Nicarauga!

Reagan.

For all we know, the man was suffering from ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE in his second term!

That's the kind of disease where you don't remember what you did last week. AND HE'S THE PRESIDENT!!??

OMG

I used to think he was a smooth talker when his favorite line to reporters was "I don't recall that."

Turns out, he wasn't joking at all!

Reagan.

It was under Reagan that America got flooded with CRACK COCAINE that dessimated a generation of poor and minorities.

Selling guns to terrorists, can't remember important things, starting illegal wars, and the crack epidemic flourishes under your watch.


GTFOH!!

IMHO, Reagan was a masterful communicator, a pretty good actor but not one of our best presidents. It's far too soon to judge Obama.

Listen to yourself. "It's far too soon to judge Obama"? No really? Why shouldn't we? Buddy, it's far too late to start defending him now.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And did Black_Man1 just call Obama 'King'?

 

[Wyatt earp]

There is, and has always been, a tremendous amount of opposition to the presidency of Obama. Many in here and throughout America think his administration is a disaster.

How soon we forget!

Let us now take a trip down Memory Lane, and see who exactly Barack Obama is, compared to the presidents I saw before him. Once we can be honest about who we have had to endure, MAYBE we can have a new found respect for our current Commander-In-Chief.


KING!

Hey what's up Soloman glad to see you expanded your horizons ...

 

[ron4342]

B. Hussein Obama is the worst president in the history of our country! He is a lying, incompetent, non-transparent, un-American POS!

At least, Carter was more honest although misled. Clinton at least had enough sense to sign some bills of the new congress in the mid nineties. Neither Bush was perfect, but they were far more presidential and competent than the scumbag we have now!

So birdsong, you would prefer a president that ignored numerous warnings about a coming attack on America that resulted in the deaths of 3000 Americans. And you would welcome a president who took America into two wars even if one of those wars was based on lies. The war in Iraq cost another 4500 American lives. And you want a president who would ignore a national disaster like Katrina which led to around 1900 dead Americans. And you think highly of presidents who enter office with a DOW around 10,500 but leave office with the DOW down to 8000 and falling. Plus you would want a president who would give tax breaks to the wealthy while borrowing the US into massive debt. And you approve of a president whose policies were causing the US the loss of 750,000 jobs per month and heading America to the biggest depression since the 30's. If you prefer bush to Obama it shows you to not be very objective or intelligent.

 

[Pop23]

FORD

We never wanted him president, he was a president by default. Great.

2. With The Hellsinki Accords, he pushed us further into carnage in Vietnam. Awesome. With the fall of Saigon, he became the first president sitting in office as America lost a war!

3.He PARDONED Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon!

4. People were trying to kill him! Even Charles Manson sent a couple of chicks to off him. Outstanding.

5. Resided over the worst economy since The Great Depression!

Wow, a true historian.

What in freakin hell did we do before you came along?

 

[Kosh]

B. Hussein Obama is the worst president in the history of our country! He is a lying, incompetent, non-transparent, un-American POS!

At least, Carter was more honest although misled. Clinton at least had enough sense to sign some bills of the new congress in the mid nineties. Neither Bush was perfect, but they were far more presidential and competent than the scumbag we have now!

So birdsong, you would prefer a president that ignored numerous warnings about a coming attack on America that resulted in the deaths of 3000 Americans. And you would welcome a president who took America into two wars even if one of those wars was based on lies. The war in Iraq cost another 4500 American lives. And you want a president who would ignore a national disaster like Katrina which led to around 1900 dead Americans. And you think highly of presidents who enter office with a DOW around 10,500 but leave office with the DOW down to 8000 and falling. Plus you would want a president who would give tax breaks to the wealthy while borrowing the US into massive debt. And you approve of a president whose policies were causing the US the loss of 750,000 jobs per month and heading America to the biggest depression since the 30's. If you prefer bush to Obama it shows you to not be very objective or intelligent.

More far left propaganda.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

And did Black_Man1 just call Obama 'King'?

Maybe. {Billie Jean King}

Or, maybe not. {Larry King}

 

[Wyatt earp]

I see the far left programming and hypocrisy is in full play here.

Nah, I know the op/tw for like 3 or 5 years now (I forget) other forums. He is a good guy just a liberal democrat.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So birdsong, you would prefer a president that ignored numerous warnings about a coming attack on America that resulted in the deaths of 3000 Americans.

Yeah, I would prefer Clinton to Obama

And you would welcome a president who took America into two wars even if one of those wars was based on lies.

You mean, Egypt and Libya?

The war in Iraq cost another 4500 American lives. And you want a president who would ignore a national disaster like Katrina which led to around 1900 dead Americans.

Say Herr Goebbels, how many died in Sandy?

And you think highly of presidents who enter office with a DOW around 10,500 but leave office with the DOW down to 8000 and falling. Plus you would want a president who would give tax breaks to the wealthy while borrowing the US into massive debt. And you approve of a president whose policies were causing the US the loss of 750,000 jobs per month and heading America to the biggest depression since the 30's. If you prefer bush to Obama it shows you to not be very objective or intelligent.

Obama Akbar Comrade..

 

[ron4342]

bear posted:
A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.
The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republican's pocket and gave the homeless person fifty dollars. Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats

Ron sez:
I know a fairy tale when I see one. That part where the republican gave the homeless guy $20 was a dead give away. It would be more accurate if the republican cursed the homeless guy and told him "Get a job!!!" In case you haven't noticed it is the republican guys who want to reduce SNAP benefits which takes food away from the homeless.