The President of War

TrumpBebe wants regime change.
Regime change in Iran has been a central theme of discussing resolving the ME conflict for 45 years, stupid, you make it sound like Trump just pulled it out of his ass on a whim.

Possible, I guess. If not, the Guard will just keep mowing people down.
Funny, they just tore down the statue of the Ayatollah in their main public square and no guards stopped anyone. But yeah, the top 50 in the government were just killed by the USA for killing civilians so, sure, I'm sure a lot of Guard are just itching to kill more while daring the USA with 15 battleships and aircraft carriers and 150 bombers hanging right off their rear flank to come kill them too. :smoke:
 
Yep. In the big picture, in a vacuum, this action is defensible and bold and certainly worth discussing. Some good could certainly come from it.

But, as always, the behaviors of the flock in response are the most interesting to me. Those who are in this the deepest with the cult (extremely well-represented here) are having to do some serious spinning and bullshitting for him. Even more than usual.

"The animals outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to tell which was which."

--That's you, Mac, losing your mind slowly and painfully to TDS.
 
Yep. In the big picture, in a vacuum, this action is defensible and bold and certainly worth discussing. Some good could certainly come from it.

But, as always, the behaviors of the flock in response are the most interesting to me. Those who are in this the deepest with the cult (extremely well-represented here) are having to do some serious spinning and bullshitting for him. Even more than usual.

Imagine seeing people around the world celebrate freedom and your response is that the people you don't like might do it wrong.

May Mac's brain disease never find me, please God
 
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--That's you, Mac, losing your mind slowly and painfully to TDS.

Kinda scary really, seeing people so consistently biased, one-sided, myopic and prejudiced, who never ever see it in themselves while constantly pointing the finger at others.
 
He`s recruiting terrorists and we have plenty of airliners that can be blown out of the sky...again. How did our search for WMDs work out?
Iran most likely has sleeper agents in our nation now. Other nations the same.
 
Imagine seeing people around the world celebrate freedom and your response is that the people you don't like might do it wrong.

May Mac's brain disease never find me, please God

Again, we heard the same thing about Afghanistan.
 
We all knew Obama was dropping those bombs and were against him doing it too.
Is there any past president you liked? I've searched through your posts and you claim they've all 'sucked'.

Talking to Iran during and since the Obama days never helped -

 
Again, we heard the same thing about Afghanistan.

The War Machine wanted Afghanistan "freed", and wanted to line their own pockets, so we had boots on the ground there.

Trump does not operate like that, if you haven't noticed
 

U.S. Attacks Iran as Trump Calls for Overthrow of Government​

The United States and Israel on Saturday launched a major attack on Iran, with President Trump vowing to devastate the country’s military, eliminate its nuclear program and bring about a change in its government.

Large explosions shook the Iranian capital, Tehran, where people reported seeing smoke rising from the district that includes the presidential palace. Witnesses described chaos in the streets as Iranians rushed to seek shelter, find loved ones or flee the city.

The American-led attack appeared to herald a much broader regional crisis. Iranian news media reported that Iran had targeted at least four U.S. military bases across the Persian Gulf — including in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, which said they had come under attack.

Iran also fired multiple waves of ballistic missiles at Israel, prompting booms in the skies as Israeli air defenses sought to repel them. Air-raid sirens sounded across the country, sending Israelis running to fortified shelters.

Mr. Trump vowed that the “massive and ongoing” campaign would target not just Iran’s nuclear program, which was the focus of a U.S. attack last June. Instead, Mr. Trump said the United States would “raze their missile industry to the ground” and “annihilate their navy,” arguing that Iran had refused to reach a deal with the United States that would have averted war.


As it turns out, trump really likes blowing things up. Trade deals, nuclear agreements, people, America's participation in the Paris Climate Accords. Anyone who didn't see the attack on Iran coming hasn't been paying attention to Don's increasingly militaristic track record. I think this makes 7 counties he has ordered bombings of during trump 2.0. Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Iraq, Nigeria, Yemen, and Somalia.

But heck, he sure did push the missing Epstein files off the front page for a few days. So in the words of Shrub............Mission Accomplished.
I guess Trump could have been like the incompetent marionette 0bama. Given Iraq billions and trusted them on treaties. That worked beautifully.
 
Yeah. Suddenly the flock is back into nation-building and sticking our nose everywhere, and all the excuses are lined up and ready to go.

In 13 months, we've bombed countries, kidnapped people, threatened countries, punished countries, mocked, insulted and trolled countries, and it's not going to stop. I guess Cuba is next.

What a damn shame. I would have sworn we were better than this. There are many benefits to being in a Mafia family, but it comes at a cost.
I know. If only we hadn't interfered with Hitler either.
 
The War Machine wanted Afghanistan "freed", and wanted to line their own pockets, so we had boots on the ground there.

Trump does not operate like that, if you haven't noticed

Totally irrelevant to what I commented on. We will be fighting this "war" for 500 years if we are still around.
 
I guess Trump could have been like the incompetent marionette 0bama. Given Iraq billions and trusted them on treaties. That worked beautifully.

How did it not work?
 
How did it not work?
Did Iran cease building nukes as the result of the 2016 agreement with 0bama? Did they stop terrorist attacks? Did they cease ballistic weapons development? Nope. They took the money, and immediately began assassinating Americans and Europeans.
 
I know. If only we hadn't interfered with Hitler either.

Mac's just really upset considering what Joe Biden got done in his first 13 months:
  1. Initiated a mass invasion of the country by undocumented criminals.
  2. Tripled gasoline prices, fuel and energy prices, doubled and tripled food prices, rents and mortgages.
  3. Damaged our energy sector trying to force through his EV mandate of what you have to drive.
  4. Oversaw the worst military operation pulling out of Afghan in the history of the country.
  5. Completely flummoxed the Covid-19 debacle.
  6. Instigated the Ukraine-Russia war through snide and arrogant meddling.
 
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Hahaha, he started this one given that Iran did not attack anyone first this time. Trump has been saying for over a week now that he was going to bomb Iran. This means that this war was premeditated by Trump! No ifs, ands or buts about it!
What war are you whining about? There were building modifications in the land of men in robes.
 
Did Iran cease building nukes as the result of the 2016 agreement with 0bama? Did they stop terrorist attacks? Did they cease ballistic weapons development? Nope. They took the money, and immediately began assassinating Americans and Europeans.

We have been claiming they were weeks away from nukes for decades. Scare tactics no longer work.

This is simply psychopaths with a mad desire to kill.
 
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