The President of Peace

[DonGlock26]

**** him. Neocon Zionist **********.

 

[Mac1958]

It's inconceivable to them that someone might oppose Trump and not be a participant in the two party circle jerk. It's a straight up mental block. No matter how many times you tell them, it just won't sink in.

I think they have to make anyone who disagrees with them out to be an evil villain. And commies are the evil villain.

So if you're not just like them, you're a commie, and they'll refuse to believe anything else. You just HAVE to be.

That's a shallow, juvenile self esteem issue.

 

[DonGlock26]

I think they have to make anyone who disagrees with them out to be an evil villain. And commies are the evil villain.

So if you're not just like them, you're a commie, and they'll refuse to believe anything else. You just HAVE to be.

That's a juvenile self esteem issue.

Well, commies are evil mass murderers.

 

[Kondor3]

When Biden was simply supplying weapons to Ukraine, al lI heard on here was fear mongering on how Biden was leading us to war, boots on the ground, WW3, yada, yada, yada...

True enough. There are short-sighted, visionless, myopic clowns on BOTH sides of the aisle.

...There was no surgical strikes, we weren't kidnapping opposition leaders we didn't like, not a single american fired a shot in the direction of Russia, nothing...

True enough. Different circumstances but true enough.

...BUT when Trump does all these things, there's not a peep here about getting involved in foreign wars, nothing about regime change, nothing about nation building...

Yep... Maduro is perceived as far-more of an Immediate Threat (drug-running, foreign guest-forces) than Eastern Europe.

...All things Trump vehemently campaigned on and against. All I've heard instead are excuses. Why wasn't Biden given the same excuses despite not even going 1/10th as far?

Yep... both sides can be hypocritical... also, BTW... the sun rises in the east, and sets in the west... not exactly news, is it?

...You honestly believe this is over?...

I truly do not know... my own spidey-sense tells me "No" but I have no clue what is unfolding down there.

...How do you take over a country, as Trump has described it without boots on the ground?...

You don't... assuming that that's not just Trump shooting-off his mouth (again) without thinking at the press conference...

...And yet all we've heard so far from Trump is that this is about drugs and getting Venzuela's oil...

Perhaps it is... that would not be inconsistent... and it would be easy to bully them now without actually invading...

...Absolutely not...

Well... that's an honest answer, anyway...

...We've seen the disaster that befell both Libya and Haiti since, despite the fact that both Clinton and Obama had a legal basis and approval of the UN security council to avert a humanitarian crisis at the time...

The heady days of the post-WW2 era when UN backing actually MEANT something have been behind us for some time now.

It's nice-to-have but not necessary nor does it even carry the same weight as it formerly did.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine put-a-cap in an already-fading protocol.

I will credit us with not bothering with so-called Nation Building, afterwards... it would be wasted on such primitives.

It would be nice to avert a humanitarian crisis in such circumstances but that is a small matter in the broader geopolitik game.

...Trump had neither legal basis or UN approval...

See above... doesn't mean what it used to...

...He went into Venezuela like a dictator, on a whim...

It is my guess that Trump rarely does Big Things on-a-whim...

At best, this may have been a conclusion to a pi$$ing contents...

Maduro: "Come and get me."

Trump: "Hold my beer."

...most likely to distract from the Epstein files...

I have serious doubts about that... if there was any "there there", the Dems would have acted on it years ago.

Presently, the most damning evidence we have along those lines is Bill Clinton in a hot-tub with teenagers.

...I remind you, this is the same man, who ran a rabidly anti foreign wars and nation building campaign and now he's doing the very thing he accused of democrats.

What? An American politician told his voting base one thing and then later did another? Unheard of!

Given that we're now dealing with a fait accompli, it may prove useful to look for whatever benefits might be gleaned...

• Depriving China of a major source of oil
• Paying the Venezuelans to give us that diverted oil
• Destroying or disrupting drug cartel operations from that region
• Ejecting current Russian military advisers
• Preventing either Chinese or Russians from obtaining military bases on Venezuelan soil
• Sending a message to other cartel-linked Latin American states

I have no clue whether any such "benefits" will actually materialize or be "worth the price" but it's a point-of-departure.

 

[dblack]

That's a shallow, juvenile self esteem issue.

Trump's entire Presidency is a shallow, juvenile self esteem issue.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Trump was actualy the one to issue the bounty. Biden only increased the reward.

Yes, it was and is the bipartisan policy of the united states to arrest Maduro.

That's why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth is so obviously phony.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I don't even remember it. I would have bitched if I'd heard about it.

Your beloved TDS media forgot to mention that to you?

Why does that matter in your view? Are you trying to make a point? Or are you just trolling for your dear leader?

It matters because it shows that it was and is the bipartisan policy of the united states to arrest Maduro.

That's why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth because Trump did it is so obviously phony.

 

[dblack]

It matters because it shows that it was and is the bipartisan policy of the united states to arrest Maduro.

Exactly. Trump is no better than a Democrat.

But you keep dancing...

 

[Seymour Flops]

Exactly. Trump is no better than a Democrat.

But you keep dancing...

Both parties agreed because it is such an obviously wise policy. Now that Trump has carried it out, Democrat and "not Democrats " will criticize it.

I notice you are unable to voice a specific criticism of arresting Maduro, other than Trump did it.

 

[Godboy]

Are YOU? Trumpeters have no consist morals or principles. You change positions at the drop off a hat. Whatever your dear leader says it does, you'll defend it blindly without a thought.

You COMPLETELY avoided my question. Are you going to give me a REAL answer, or are you going to cop out?

Whats not good about Maduro being captured?

 

[Votto]

Lol. Dumb ****. Thinks if you oppose foreign wars and interventions, you love his beloved rulers enemies.

The ugly statist.

The thinking of a child. A dumb child.

I favor protecting Americans, Americans that die at a rate of about 200 a day from illegal drugs flowing into the country.

People have a right to defend themselves from aggressors like Numnuts Maduro.

 

[Votto]

I think they have to make anyone who disagrees with them out to be an evil villain. And commies are the evil villain.

So if you're not just like them, you're a commie, and they'll refuse to believe anything else. You just HAVE to be.

That's a shallow, juvenile self esteem issue.

Commie

 

[Seymour Flops]

It's inconceivable to them that someone might oppose Trump and not be a participant in the two party circle jerk. It's a straight up mental block. No matter how many times you tell them, it just won't sink in.

It is concievable that someone would oppose Trump and not be a Democrat partisan hack.

It's just that this is not a description of you.

Non-partisan people who oppose Trump have logical reasons regarding his policies, statements and actions. They don't say:

Trump's entire Presidency is a shallow, juvenile self esteem issue.

You have yet to state a logical objection to the arrest of Maduro.

 

[buttercup]

This guy does a pretty good summary of the whole farce:

 

[dblack]

It is concievable that someone would oppose Trump and not be a Democrat partisan hack.

It's just that this is not a description of you.

Well, how about this, you idiot ************. How's about you go find all the posts where I'm promoting Democrats. And when you fail, don't bother apologizing, just go **** yourself.

 

[dblack]

This guy does a pretty good summary of the whole farce:

It's different. You wouldn't understand, because you're an evil Democrat!!!!

 

[buttercup]

Well, how about this, you idiot ************. How's about you go find all the posts where I'm promoting Democrats. And when you fail, don't bother apologizing, just go **** yourself.

It does get old, doesn't it? And for me it's unique to USMB. I've been on other forums in the past where people understood that just because someone doesn't like a particular president or is critical of a particular policy doesn't automatically mean they're on the opposing "team"...That mindset is the most retarded thing ever, so I actually don't blame you for going off on that guy.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Well, how about this, you idiot ************. How's about you go find all the posts where I'm promoting Democrats. And when you fail, don't bother apologizing, just go **** yourself.

Your constant bashing of Trump with no logic other than to join the idiots who are openly Democrats is how you promote Democrats. But at least people like Synthaholic would openly promote Biden and then Harris, and no doubt the next bum of the month the Democrats put up against Trump's successor. You play the "but, I'm not a Democrat, nyah, nyah!" card to avoid ever having to defend anything.

Your act fools no one.

 

[gipper]

I favor protecting Americans, Americans that die at a rate of about 200 a day from illegal drugs flowing into the country.

People have a right to defend themselves from aggressors like Numnuts Maduro.

If you bothered to do any research on this topic other than believe a lying president, you’d know Venezuela has little to do with fentanyl and other illegal drugs coming to the US. So you have to ask yourself why Venezuela, when there are other nations much more guilty yet your Orange Jesus chose Venezuela?

Why not China, Mexico, Columbia?

Have you learned nothing since 9/11!

 

[gipper]

I favor protecting Americans, Americans that die at a rate of about 200 a day from illegal drugs flowing into the country.

People have a right to defend themselves from aggressors like Numnuts Maduro.

This!