The portion of the repub party that is pro-Putin is alarming

No one opposed Putin's previous conflict with the Ukraine, because that was over the Crimea, which is pretty much 100% Russian.
And the Crimea is Sevastopol, which is Russia's only warm water port.
Everyone knows that has always was and always will be Russian.
When did Putin invade Georgia?

The war took place in August 2008 following a period of worsening relations between Russia and Georgia, both formerly constituent republics of the Soviet Union. The fighting took place in the strategically important South Caucasus region. It is regarded as the first European war of the 21st century.
 
You can count on Joey's leadership from what is a currently a shell of a Democracy supporting a corrupt fledgling Democracy.
It's becoming even more clear where allegiances lie.


The President's leadership in coordinating the response of NATO and other democracies to the "savvy genius"'s degeneracy is forcing patriotism to break out in some quarters of the GOP!
 
Yes they obviously were fake.
If they were not fake and him threatened, then he would NEVER have plead to anything.
The 2008 deal ended a federal investigation that could have landed Epstein, now 66, in prison for life. Instead, he was allowed to plead guilty to lesser state charges that resulted in a 13-month jail sentence and required financial settlements to dozens of his victims. He also had to register as a sex offender.

Court documents show at least 40 underage girls were brought into Epstein's Palm Beach mansion for what turned into sexual encounters. Authorities say he had female fixers who would look for suitable girls, some local and others recruited from Eastern Europe and other parts of the world.
 
No one opposed Putin's previous conflict with the Ukraine, because that was over the Crimea...

Obama Announces Sanctions to Punish Russia For Crimea Invasion
The sanctions announced today are some of the most comprehensive placed on Russia since the Cold War.
March 17, 2014

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"I looked the man in the eye.
I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy.
We had a very good dialogue.
I was able to get a sense of his soul."
 


There are 3 points in this "speech" where she points out that Ukraine "cannot win".

I think that crosses a line.Firstly I doubt her qualifications to make comment on that. It sounds very Lord Haw Haw to me.
There is a legitimate position to saying that other countries should not get involved in Russias illegal war. But this just seems to be Russian propaganda.

Putin is an enemy to the US and all freedom loving democratic countries. What does this wretched woman gain by supporting him ?
That is a question that needs an answer.


You're an ignorant one-legged British faggot, who knows nothing about the United States, our politics, or our parties, and has no standing whatsoever to speak of it.

Most of what you think you know about us is just plain wrong.

Your OP in this thread only stands to prove this.


Worry about your own worthless shithole of a country, and leave it to us Americans to worry about our country.
 
When did Putin invade Georgia?

The war took place in August 2008 following a period of worsening relations between Russia and Georgia, both formerly constituent republics of the Soviet Union. The fighting took place in the strategically important South Caucasus region. It is regarded as the first European war of the 21st century.

The war was not between Russia and Georgia, but really between South Ossetia separatists and Georgia, with the Russians taking the side of the separatists.

{...
The Russo-Georgian War[note 3] was a war between Georgia on one side and Russia and the Russian-backed self-proclaimed republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, on the other. The war took place in August 2008 following a period of worsening relations between Russia and Georgia, both formerly constituent republics of the Soviet Union. The fighting took place in the strategically important South Caucasus region. It is regarded as the first European war of the 21st century.[31]

The Republic of Georgia declared its independence in early 1991 as the Soviet Union began to fall apart. Amid this backdrop, fighting between Georgia and separatists left parts of the former South Ossetian Autonomous Oblast under the de facto control of Russian-backed but internationally unrecognised separatists. Following the war, a joint peacekeeping force of Georgian, Russian, and Ossetian troops was stationed in the territory. A similar stalemate developed in the region of Abkhazia, where Abkhaz separatists had waged a war in 1992–1993. Following the election of Vladimir Putin in Russia in 2000 and a pro-Western change of power in Georgia in 2003, relations between Russia and Georgia began to deteriorate, reaching a full diplomatic crisis by April 2008. On 1 August 2008, the Russian-backed South Ossetian forces started shelling Georgian villages, with a sporadic response from Georgian peacekeepers in the area.[32][33][34][35][36] Intensifying artillery attacks by the South Ossetians broke a 1992 ceasefire agreement.[37][38][39][40] To put an end to these attacks, the Georgian army units were sent in to the South Ossetian conflict zone on 7 August.[41] Georgian troops took control of most of Tskhinvali, a separatist stronghold, in hours.

Some Russian troops had illicitly crossed the Russo-Georgian state border through the Roki Tunnel and advanced into the South Ossetian conflict zone by 7 August before the large-scale Georgian military response.[note 4][39][42][43][44][45][46][47][48] Russia accused Georgia of an "aggression against South Ossetia",[41] and launched a full-scale land, air and sea invasion of Georgia, including its undisputed territory, on 8 August, referring to it as a "peace enforcement" operation.[49] Russian and South Ossetian forces fought Georgian forces in and around South Ossetia for several days, until Georgian forces retreated. Russian and Abkhaz forces opened a second front by attacking the Kodori Gorge held by Georgia. Russian naval forces blockaded part of the Georgian Black Sea coastline. The Russian air force attacked targets both within and beyond the conflict zone. This was the first war in history in which cyber warfare coincided with military action. An information war was also waged during and after the conflict. Nicolas Sarkozy, the President of France, personally negotiated a ceasefire agreement on 12 August.

Russian forces temporarily occupied the Georgian cities of Zugdidi, Senaki, Poti and Gori, holding on to these areas beyond the ceasefire. The South Ossetians destroyed most ethnic Georgian villages in South Ossetia and were responsible for an ethnic cleansing of Georgians. Russia recognised the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from Georgia on 26 August and the Georgian government severed diplomatic relations with Russia. Russia mostly completed its withdrawal of troops from undisputed parts of Georgia on 8 October. Russian international relations were largely unharmed. The war displaced 192,000 people. While many returned to their homes after the war, 20,272 people, mostly ethnic Georgians, remained displaced as of 2014. In 2021, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that Russia maintained "direct control" over the separatist regions and was responsible for grave human rights abuses taking place there.[50][51]
...}
 
It's becoming even more clear where allegiances lie.


The President's leadership in coordinating the response of NATO and other democracies to the "savvy genius"'s degeneracy is forcing patriotism to break out in some quarters of the GOP!

Patriots in the US should be supporting Putin.
Putin has never done anything to harm the US, and has actually helped the US continually.
For example, the US invasion of Syria was totally illegal, and instead of wiping it out, Putin allowed our troops total dominance by withdrawing.
 
Patriots in the US should be supporting Putin.
Putin has never done anything to harm the US, and has actually helped the US continually.
For example, the US invasion of Syria was totally illegal, and instead of wiping it out, Putin allowed our troops total dominance by withdrawing.
ah yes, i see why...

“Putin's Russia is a plutocracy and a kleptocracy controlled by an oligarchic elite of white men. He uses secret police and other enforcers to terrorize any person or group he deems to be the enemy. Republicans in the U.S., and many of their allies and followers, want to exercise that kind of power in America.”

also...

In a speech on Wednesday, Putin denounced "national traitors" who are supposedly undermining the war on Ukraine, saying that "real" Russians will "always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors." This is the man so many of today's Republicans idolize.
 
Commie troll
The truth hurts doesn't it you brain dead fool. You weren't smart enough to realise where your allegiance to Trump would place you.
Now you ignorantlynblsmr someone else. Youre a very poor excuse for a patriot.
 
Yes, that would definitely be an exercise in pretending (?) to be an oblivious simpleton.

well lay it out for us. What's the plan to repel the Russians? At least BEFORE they level the major cities like they did in Chechnya and Syria recently.

Explain to the class why UKRAINE IS GONNA WIN and unicorns will fart rainbows - why dontcha? MTG COULD BE RIGHT.. Even if she is weird and simple.

We shouldn't be tempting WW3 on the HOPES that miracles will happen.
 
It's a commonly accepted fact that Ukraine won't win. Accepting reality isn't "helping the enemy".

If Putin is such a horrible enemy, what the fuck is YOUR country waiting on before sending troops to the battlefield?

Hell, your country is selling fucking second rate weapons to Ukraine.


Are you sure your country isn't trying to help Russia win?
Actually commonly accepted that Russia will eventually loose... it unsure if Russia can hang on to take over the country... Already they took 50% of the casualties of Afghanistan in three weeks...

But this is a financial war and Russia is loosing that one...
 
The war was not between Russia and Georgia, but really between South Ossetia separatists and Georgia, with the Russians taking the side of the separatists.

Right !!!!!!

Just like the revolutionary war was between the English and the French, with the Americans taking the side of the French.
 
Actually commonly accepted that Russia will eventually loose... it unsure if Russia can hang on to take over the country... Already they took 50% of the casualties of Afghanistan in three weeks...

But this is a financial war and Russia is loosing that one...

Are you WATCHING the destruction that Putin is doing? Another month of THAT and NOBODY wins much. What is this silly BELIEF that Ukraine is gonna be a winner? YOU too -- take the challenge I posed to the 2 other mini-minds and tell me how Ukraine is "a winner" in this..
 
Are you WATCHING the destruction that Putin is doing? Another month of THAT and NOBODY wins much. What is this silly BELIEF that Ukraine is gonna be a winner? YOU too -- take the challenge I posed to the 2 other mini-minds and tell me how Ukraine is "a winner" in this..
No one wins. Putin thought he would march in and win in a day or two. It is not going to be that easy. Even if he does eventually win, he will need to keep thousands of troops there to prop up his puppet government. He will never win the hearts and souls of the Ukrainian people. They will go under ground to fight his fascist rule like the French did during Hitler's occupation during WWII.
 
Patriots in the US should be supporting Putin.
Putin has never done anything to harm the US, and has actually helped the US continually.
For example, the US invasion of Syria was totally illegal, and instead of wiping it out, Putin allowed our troops total dominance by withdrawing.

Right !!!!!!
 
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