The Pictures Really Do Tell The Story

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As with all aspects of the events of September 11, 2001, there are many unanswered questions and mysteries that linger to this day. I want to address two here. First the dispatch of FEMA’s Search and Rescue team to New York City on September 10, 2001 and United Airlines Flight 93.

On CBS, Tom Kennedy, a FEMA rescue worker, was being interviewed by Dan Rather on air Wednesday September 12th 2001. This is what Tom Kennedy had to say, “We’re one of the first teams that was deployed to support the city of New York for this disaster. We arrived late Monday night (September 10th), and went into action Tuesday morning (September 11th), and not until today did we get a full opportunity to work the entire site.”
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW7Qvs-BZGk&mode=related&search[/ame] (first 20 seconds)
Why would FEMA arrive for search and rescue if the WTC attacks were a “surprise” ????

We witnessed the fire balls when the planes crashed into the Twin Towers.

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Does this photo of the Fight 93 crash show a similar fireball?

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Or does it show something more similar to a weapon/bomb or such explosion?

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The smoke pattern in the photo reported to be of Fight 93 indicates an explosion without any immediate burning of fuel. It did not appear to be larger than a car bomb explosion:

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If the fuel from a nearly fully loaded Boeing 767 did not ignite and create a huge fireball, then much of that fuel would have soaked into the soil, yet soil tests at the crash site found zero trace of fuel contamination:
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight93.html

This is an aerial view of the crash site:
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An a link to another large aerial view:
http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/jpg/P200057-1.jpg

Where are the scorch marks and plane wreckage from a crash that would have looked like this?

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On 9/11/2001, we were told to believe that a nose-diving 100 plus ton airplane measuring 155 feet long, 125 feet wide and 45 feet tall magically disappeared into a hole in the ground that measured, about 30 to 40 feet long, 15 to 20 feet wide and 18 feet deep. No explanation has ever been officially offered as to why wreckage of a plane that “nose dived into the ground” was spread over an area of about 15 square miles.

Witnesses reported that they could not tell that a plane had crashed. The only evidence at the scene was one burning seat and charcoal (charcoal?), some clothing hanging in trees, a smoking hole with grass still alive and unharmed, nothing larger than a phonebook, no recognizable plane parts and no signs of bodies.
Fox News report [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc[/ame]

Flight 93’s black boxes were buried 15ft and 25ft into the ground, which is very strange. They both would have been installed in the tail section next to each other when the plane was built. Why would one travel 10 feet further into the ground? Flight 93’s Flight Data recorder (FDR) was sent to NTSB for analysis . Their report mentions the manufacturer as ‘Allied-Signal’.

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The NTSB released transcript from Flight 93’s Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) but did not mention the manufactures name. United Airlines Flight 93 went into service in 1996. The CVR and the FDR should be the from the same manufacturer, Allied-Signal. In 1999 Allied-Signal acquired Honeywell and adopted it’s more recognizable name. The CVR reported to come from the Flight 93 crash site was manufactured by Honeywell. Do you see the problem here?

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Also notable from these Black Box photos is the soil. Does the soil appear to have “loose quick sand” like properties? Why are these black boxes so clean? Why does the soil contain more loose rock and change color at 25 feet where the CVR was found as opposed to the denser red clay at 15 feet where the FDR was found. Notice the wires on the FDR, that is the only wires found over the whole "crash site". And what’s with the brick?

Below is a photo of an engine being recovered from the hole. Notice that it “burrowed into the soft ground with the plane”, while the other engine that was found several hundred yards away was reported to have hit the same soft ground and “bounced”. Yet the wing that the bounced engine was attached magically just disappeared.

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Here is a new engine for Boeing 767 under construction:

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You do see the similarity, don't you?
I don't.


The official story of United Airlines Flight 93 claims that the plane nose-dived into former strip mining land in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. It encountering soft loosely packed soil, and was sucked effortlessly into the ground. To explain the widely scattered debris, the lack of fuel traces, the missing plane and human parts the official story concludes that the portion of the plane that contained the passengers, crew, luggage, cargo, fuel, and the vast majority of the airplane itself, exploded on the ground and was reduced to scraps that soared over mountaintops to reach destinations up to eight miles away.

I, being of sound mind, reject the official story of Flight 93 and all the attacks of September 11th 2001. If the whole point of terrorism is to make a point, just good why did no group take credit for the terrorism committed that day?

I also question why was a mysterious white aircraft reported at all the 9/11/01 scenes?

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More on Fight 93 and 9/11/01

Flight 93 Witness reports:

“Despite extensive recovery efforts, nothing resembling a human corpse was ever found, officially at least, anywhere within the eight-mile-long debris field. According to the official storyline, all that was recovered, “apart from, here and there, a finger, a toe or a tooth … were small pieces of tissue and bone.” -John Carlin "Unanswered Questions: The Mystery of Flight 93," The Independent, August 13, 2002

“The largest piece of human tissue reportedly found was “a section of spine eight inches long. No torsos, no arms, no legs, no hands, no feet – not even a head, or at least a portion of one of the forty-four skulls.” - Richard Wallace "What Did Happen to Flight 93?"
Daily Mirror, September 12, 2002

"It was as if the plane had stopped and let the passengers off before it crashed," Miller said." - Pittsburg Post Gazette (10/15/01)

"Wally Miller was among the very first to arrive after 10:06 on the magnificently sunny morning of September 11. Once he was able to absorb the scene, Miller says, "I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. It became like a giant funeral service."
Thousands of people -- the locals estimate up to 1,000 a week -- have arrived at an old coal-mining access trail called Skyline Road, where finally they can see what remains of Flight 93: nothing. "There's not really much to it, is there?" Wally Miller often says to families and other visitors who are bewildered by what they don't see.
Immediately after the crash, the seeming absence of human remains led the mind of coroner Wally Miller to a surreal fantasy: that Flight 93 had somehow stopped in mid-flight and discharged all of its passengers before crashing. "There was just nothing visible," he says. "It was the strangest feeling." It would be nearly an hour before Miller came upon his first trace of a body part." - Washington Post (05/12/02)

"No bodies were recovered here, at least not as we normally think of bodies. In the cataclysmic violence of the crash, the people on Flight 93 literally disintegrated. Searchers found fragments of bones, small pieces of flesh, a hand. But no bodies." - Miami Herald (09/07/02)

"Wallace Miller, the lanky, Civil War-studying county coroner, did see it. He sat at the family funeral home, his father, Wilbur, with him. They watched the second plane sweep in low from nowhere. They winced when it hit.
He takes off his glasses, cleans them with his T-shirt. "This is the most eerie thing," he says. "I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop." - Pittsburgh Live (09/11/02)



More pictures in this video that tell an important 9/11 story:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3873474711036143711&hl=en
 
and more information:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

It goes on, but here's the start:

or background on this investigative feature, please click here.

Listen to the editors of Debunking 9/11 Myths discuss the book - and debunk several myths - on the the Popular Mechanics Show (podcast):


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FROM THE MOMENT the first airplane crashed into the World Trade Center on the morning of September 11, 2001, the world has asked one simple and compelling question: How could it happen?

Three and a half years later, not everyone is convinced we know the truth. Go to Google.com, type in the search phrase "World Trade Center conspiracy" and you'll get links to an estimated 628,000 Web sites. More than 3000 books on 9/11 have been published; many of them reject the official consensus that hijackers associated with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda flew passenger planes into U.S. landmarks.

Healthy skepticism, it seems, has curdled into paranoia. Wild conspiracy tales are peddled daily on the Internet, talk radio and in other media. Blurry photos, quotes taken out of context and sketchy eyewitness accounts have inspired a slew of elaborate theories: The Pentagon was struck by a missile; the World Trade Center was razed by demolition-style bombs; Flight 93 was shot down by a mysterious white jet. As outlandish as these claims may sound, they are increasingly accepted abroad and among extremists here in the United States.

To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.

In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history.--THE EDITORS


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THE PLANES
The widely accepted account that hijackers commandeered and crashed the four 9/11 planes is supported by reams of evidence, from cockpit recordings to forensics to the fact that crews and passengers never returned home. Nonetheless, conspiracy theorists seize on a handful of "facts" to argue a very different scenario: The jets that struck New York and Washington, D.C., weren't commercial planes, they say, but something else, perhaps refueling tankers or guided missiles. And the lack of military intervention? Theorists claim it proves the U.S. government instigated the assault or allowed it to occur in order to advance oil interests or a war agenda.


Where's The Pod?
CLAIM: Photographs and video footage shot just before United Airlines Flight 175 hit the South Tower of the World Trade Center (WTC) show an object underneath the fuselage at the base of the right wing. The film "911 In Plane Site" and the Web site LetsRoll911.org claim that no such object is found on a stock Boeing 767. They speculate that this "military pod" is a missile, a bomb or a piece of equipment on an air-refueling tanker. LetsRoll911.org points to this as evidence that the attacks were an "inside job" sanctioned by "President George Bush, who planned and engineered 9/11."

FACT: One of the clearest, most widely seen pictures of the doomed jet's undercarriage was taken by photographer Rob Howard and published in New York magazine and elsewhere (opening page). PM sent a digital scan of the original photo to Ronald Greeley, director of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State University. Greeley is an expert at analyzing images to determine the shape and features of geological formations based on shadow and light effects. After studying the high-resolution image and comparing it to photos of a Boeing 767-200ER's undercarriage, Greeley dismissed the notion that the Howard photo reveals a "pod." In fact, the photo reveals only the Boeing's right fairing, a pronounced bulge that contains the landing gear. He concludes that sunlight glinting off the fairing gave it an exaggerated look. "Such a glint causes a blossoming (enlargement) on film," he writes in an e-mail to PM, "which tends to be amplified in digital versions of images--the pixels are saturated and tend to 'spill over' to adjacent pixels." When asked about pods attached to civilian aircraft, Fred E. Culick, professor of aeronautics at the California Institute of Technology, gave a blunter response: "That's bull. They're really stretching."

No Stand-Down Order
CLAIM: No fighter jets were scrambled from any of the 28 Air Force bases within close range of the four hijacked flights. "On 11 September Andrews had two squadrons of fighter jets with the job of protecting the skies over Washington D.C.," says the Web site emperors-clothes.com. "They failed to do their job." "There is only one explanation for this," writes Mark R. Elsis of StandDown.net. "Our Air Force was ordered to Stand Down on 9/11."

FACT: On 9/11 there were only 14 fighter jets on alert in the contiguous 48 states. No computer network or alarm automatically alerted the North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) of missing planes. "They [civilian Air Traffic Control, or ATC] had to pick up the phone and literally dial us," says Maj. Douglas Martin, public affairs officer for NORAD. Boston Center, one of 22 Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regional ATC facilities, called NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) three times: at 8:37 am EST to inform NEADS that Flight 11 was hijacked; at 9:21 am to inform the agency, mistakenly, that Flight 11 was headed for Washington (the plane had hit the North Tower 35 minutes earlier); and at 9:41 am to (erroneously) identify Delta Air Lines Flight 1989 from Boston as a possible hijacking. The New York ATC called NEADS at 9:03 am to report that United Flight 175 had been hijacked--the same time the plane slammed into the South Tower. Within minutes of that first call from Boston Center, NEADS scrambled two F-15s from Otis Air Force Base in Falmouth, Mass., and three F-16s from Langley Air National Guard Base in Hampton, Va. None of the fighters got anywhere near the pirated planes.

Why couldn't ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes' transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country's busiest air corridors. And NORAD's sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. "It was like a doughnut," Martin says. "There was no coverage in the middle." Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn't prepared to track them.
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PLAIN VIEW: Passenger windows on a piece of Flight 175's fuselage. PHOTOGRPAH BY WILLIAM F. BAKER/FEMA

Flight 175's Windows
CLAIM: On Sept. 11, FOX News broadcast a live phone interview with FOX employee Marc Birnbach. 911inplanesite.com states that "Bernback" saw the plane "crash into the South Tower." "It definitely did not look like a commercial plane," Birnbach said on air. "I didn't see any windows on the sides."

Coupled with photographs and videos of Flight 175 that lack the resolution to show windows, Birnbach's statement has fueled one of the most widely referenced 9/11 conspiracy theories--specifically, that the South Tower was struck by a military cargo plane or a fuel tanker.

FACT: Birnbach, who was a freelance videographer with FOX News at the time, tells PM that he was more than 2 miles southeast of the WTC, in Brooklyn, when he briefly saw a plane fly over. He says that, in fact, he did not see the plane strike the South Tower; he says he only heard the explosion.

While heading a Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) probe into the collapse of the towers, W. Gene Corley studied the airplane wreckage. A licensed structural engineer with Construction Technology Laboratories, a consulting firm based in Skokie, Ill., Corley and his team photographed aircraft debris on the roof of WTC 5, including a chunk of fuselage that clearly had passenger windows. "It's ... from the United Airlines plane that hit Tower 2," Corley states flatly. In reviewing crash footage taken by an ABC news crew, Corley was able to track the trajectory of the fragments he studied--including a section of the landing gear and part of an engine--as they tore through the South Tower, exited from the building's north side and fell from the sky.

Intercepts Not Routine
CLAIM: "It has been standard operating procedures for decades to immediately intercept off-course planes that do not respond to communications from air traffic controllers," says the Web site oilempire.us. "When the Air Force 'scrambles' a fighter plane to intercept, they usually reach the plane in question in minutes."

FACT: In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). "Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ," FAA spokesman Bill Schumann tells PM. After 9/11, NORAD and the FAA increased cooperation, setting up hotlines between ATCs and NORAD command centers, according to officials from both agencies. NORAD has also increased its fighter coverage and has installed radar to monitor airspace over the continent.
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and more information:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

It goes on, but here's the start:

Popular Mechanic is full of crap. Popular Mechanics is WHOLLY OWNED owned by the Hearst Corporation. William Randolph Hearst is known as the FATHER OF YELLOW JOURNALISM. Popular Mechanics is yellow propaganda masquerading as "science".

Popular Mechanics Davin Coburn, the “Researcher Editor“ went on the radio to defend the Popular Mechanics yellow journalism debunking 9/11 article.. He could not answer the DNA question. When is he stated that some of the hijackers were identified by DNA taken from the body pieces, the radio host asked him were did they get the pre-9/11 DNA samples. Listen as the stutters and falls apart:
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/A003I060823-am-c3.MP3
It is slap stick humorous.

And there is a follow up call to him weeks later. You gotta hear it to believe it!
http://www.yannone.org/audio/jeffpopmech.mp3

And Popular Mechanics listed slew of 'Experts" at the end of their 9/11 article...... but by Google Searching these experts, and ’Ctrl “F” the pages of the article, I found that many that are listed in the credits, are not mentioned in the article. Airports and reporters are listed as experts. Mr. Wallace Miller is listed as an expert for mentioning that no body parts were found in the lake. They left out that he has also state nothing was found at the crash site. I have debunked this article for RSR in the past on another site. I read the article. Have you???? Anybody???? They claim that “pull it” means to pull a building down with cable. They claim that the fire fighters that were KILLED were simply lying when they mentioned bombs going off in the building. THAT PISSES me OFF the Most.

Here are my comments on just a few of the “EXPERTS”.

The first expert is not a person , it is an Air Traffic Center.
Second is Bill Crowley special agent, FBI, the man in charge of spying on Peace Groups, like the Amish. And as far as 9/11 he is the FBI agent that said investigators could not rule out that a military plane was nearby during the Flight 91 crash, then as speculation that Fight 93 was shot down, he claimed he had misspoken.
Next we have Ron Dokell.
Here is the Popular Mechanics text:
“Four (not identified) demolition and engineering experts tell Popular Mechanics that "pull it" is not slang for controlled demolition. "I've never heard of it," says Jon Magnusson of Magnusson Klemencic Associates. Ron Dokell, retired president of Olshan Demolishing Company says the same thing.
Then P.M. goes on to explain that “pull it” means to pull a building down with cables.
Yeah Sure, no way will I buy that.

Next “expert” Richard Gazarik staff writer, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review????? EXPERT???

Next Expert Yates Gladwell. How does he become an expert? He saw a smoking hole in the ground. On his way to the Johnstown-Cambria airport, he was asked to take a look. He flew over the smoking hole and reported just that.

Next up Michael K. Hynes.
He is an accident expert. His contribution, when asked by P.M. if aircraft parts can bounce over 300 yards in high-speed crashes, (without clarifying whether he was addressing the crash of Flight 93 which was a vertical plunge into soft ground), he agreed that was possible.

Ed Jacoby Jr. some expert!!!! HE WAS AN Alibi! This is his only mention in the article:
[In the final point, the article takes on the allegation by retired Army Col. Donn de Grand-Pre that the pilot who shot down Flight 93 was Major Rick Gibney. The article states that Gibney was flying an F-16 that day, but it was not on an intercept mission; rather it was to pick up Ed Jacoby Jr.] He was an intended passenger and made no contribution to the article.

Next Matthew McCormick, the man who headed up the crash site investigation. He told P.M., “From my investigation there was no pre-impact stress to the airplane.” Meaning that the plane that left debris over an 8 mile path was intact when it hit the ground. That made him an “expert”.

Next Wallace Miller coroner, Somerset County, PA. The man who did no autopsies.
In articles other than P.M. Mr. Wallace is quoted as stating tat he couldn't believe the scene. He saw the burnt trees, and some debris smoking in the dirt. He saw half a window frame. He saw shreds of that white cloth they put over the headrests. He saw things in the trees. He takes off his glasses, cleans them with his T-shirt. "This is the most eerie thing," he says. "I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop. P.M only mentions that he said that no body parts were found in Indian Lake. That is it. NO BODY PARTSWERE FOUND IN INDIAN LAKE! For that he get credit as a contributing expert.



Kathianne, maybe your should read my post. You did not address any of the important questions I raised.
 
Popular Mechanic is full of crap. Popular Mechanics is WHOLLY OWNED owned by the Hearst Corporation. William Randolph Hearst is known as the FATHER OF YELLOW JOURNALISM. Popular Mechanics is yellow propaganda masquerading as "science".
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Kathianne, maybe your should read my post. You did not address any of the important questions I raised.
and you are wholly owned by conspiracist sites. Sorry, Popular Mechanics has a stellar reputation, the yellow journalism of Hearst goes back to the time of the Maine. Get a grip.
 
and you are wholly owned by conspiracist sites. Sorry, Popular Mechanics has a stellar reputation, the yellow journalism of Hearst goes back to the time of the Maine. Get a grip.

no kat you should get a grip your one and only rebuttal ever is popular mechanics ,do you not think it is strange that the one and only mouth piece for 911 disinformation is a Hearst owned cooperate rag and in your mind this some how over rides all the collective experience of patriots question 911 or scholars for 911 truth, pilots for 911 truth or the fact that popular mechanics version is not even the same as nist or the fema report .you read a article in a cheesy rag ,you are completely uninformed and don't even know what the nist report or fema because you never read them , you are dismissing 911 truth without any real research. kat you get a F
 
and you are wholly owned by conspiracist sites. Sorry, Popular Mechanics has a stellar reputation, the yellow journalism of Hearst goes back to the time of the Maine. Get a grip.


Can't answer the questions I asked can you?
Such as how the feds got the hijackers pre-9/11 DNA for comparison?
Why would FEMA Search and Rescue arrive on scene Sept. 10th?
And Oh, so many more?

"stellar reputation" - and an airport is an "expert."
Ha! Ha! You're funny.

For those interested in reading on this subject, click this link.
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm
They say it better than I can.


And listen to the radio interview post in my previous post.

You can ignore it Kathianne, I'm sure you will.
There are none so blind as those that refuse to see!

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Can't answer the questions I asked can you?
Such as how the feds got the hijackers pre-9/11 DNA for comparison?
Why would FEMA Search and Rescue arrive on scene Sept. 10th?
And Oh, so many more?

"stellar reputation" - and an airport is an "expert."
Ha! Ha! You're funny.

For those interested in reading on this subject, click this link.
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm
They say it better than I can.


And listen to the radio interview post in my previous post.

You can ignore it Kathianne, I'm sure you will.
There are none so blind as those that refuse to see!

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Thanks for proving my point. it's not here, but you deserve: :tinfoil:
 
Thanks for proving my point. it's not here, but you deserve: :tinfoil:

Written as well as RSR writes!
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Interesting that you would show up on the other thread - a thread that has been up for weeks without you or RSR visiting it.

Right after I sent RSE a PM to let him know I posted the thread, you both magically appear shortly after.

Which half of his brain cell do you reside in?

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Mind if I ask what you think a fireball looks like AFTER the flames extinguish?

Yes, a crashed jet would sent up a massive fireball that would leave a larger smoke cloud than a car bomb.
Plane larger than Car
Plane holds more fuel
More fuel = more fire
More fire = more smoke


(photo examples provided above)
 
translation Paul revere just owned you ,and reduced you to a state of red state, where the most intellectual act you are capable of is to drool out the words...tinfoil, as if it means anything ,pathetic

Oh my, you and PR against moi. Gee, my life!
 
Oh my, you and PR against moi. Gee, my life!

How could the Feds have collected DNA samples from the 9/11 hijackers before 9/11?

Why did FEMA's Search and Rescue show up in Manhatten on Sept. 10, 2001?

Come on Kathianne, you are a defender of the mighty Fourth Reich.... let us hear your answers.
 
Yes, a crashed jet would sent up a massive fireball that would leave a larger smoke cloud than a car bomb.
Plane larger than Car
Plane holds more fuel
More fuel = more fire
More fire = more smoke


(photo examples provided above)

From what distance is the flight 93 pic? To my eye, that cloud appears to be several hundred yards across.
 
From what distance is the flight 93 pic? To my eye, that cloud appears to be several hundred yards across.

I agree it does to me also.

That cloud is not as big of a cloud one made by explodind a car packed with explosives. It is smaller that a car bomb.

It looks similar to some of the clouds made by IED's in Iraq. Thanks for agreeing with me. I hope you will read the complete post.
 
I agree it does to me also.

That cloud is not as big of a cloud one made by explodind a car packed with explosives. It is smaller that a car bomb.

It looks similar to some of the clouds made by IED's in Iraq. Thanks for agreeing with me. I hope you will read the complete post.

I don't agree with you. I've personally witnessed a fuel based explosion during a demonstration at an EOD range. The ball of smoke left behind looked exactly like the one in the photo, though the one I witnessed was from less fuel, therefore smaller in size.

Upon what measurements are you basing your size claims? Link some pics of car bomb explosions where you can assess size so we can make an accurate comparison.

Also, I'm sure you can adequately explain WHY there would be a need to fake the crash of Flight 93. The attacks on the WTC and Pentagon weren't enough? The conspirators had to bury a bunch of jet liner pieces in rural Pa and set off a bomb in order to complete the facade?

Do you REALLY believe such patently obvious bullshit? REALLY?
 
I don't agree with you. I've personally witnessed a fuel based explosion during a demonstration at an EOD range. The ball of smoke left behind looked exactly like the one in the photo, though the one I witnessed was from less fuel, therefore smaller in size.

Upon what measurements are you basing your size claims? Link some pics of car bomb explosions where you can assess size so we can make an accurate comparison.

Also, I'm sure you can adequately explain WHY there would be a need to fake the crash of Flight 93. The attacks on the WTC and Pentagon weren't enough? The conspirators had to bury a bunch of jet liner pieces in rural Pa and set off a bomb in order to complete the facade?

Do you REALLY believe such patently obvious bullshit? REALLY?



Yes he does. That is the sad part

He is a proud member of the looney left
 

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I don't agree with you. I've personally witnessed a fuel based explosion during a demonstration at an EOD range. The ball of smoke left behind looked exactly like the one in the photo, though the one I witnessed was from less fuel, therefore smaller in size.

Upon what measurements are you basing your size claims? Link some pics of car bomb explosions where you can assess size so we can make an accurate comparison.

Also, I'm sure you can adequately explain WHY there would be a need to fake the crash of Flight 93. The attacks on the WTC and Pentagon weren't enough? The conspirators had to bury a bunch of jet liner pieces in rural Pa and set off a bomb in order to complete the facade?

Do you REALLY believe such patently obvious bullshit? REALLY?

No I can not adequately explain why there would be a need to fake the crash of Flight 93.
I can only hope that I find out some day. Nor can I explain why men would be possessed with such great evil to attack the citizens they swore to protect, yet it happened. I have many questions about 93, I never claimed that I have answers about 93. To believe that hole swallowed a commercial airliner is beyond reason. To accept the black box stories would be unacceptable.

I do not believe that any on who takes a few moments to read through my orginal post would not have questions about the "offical story."

By the way I did post a photo of smoke coming from a car bomb. Go back and look.
 
No I can not adequately explain why there would be a need to fake the crash of Flight 93.
I can only hope that I find out some day. Nor can I explain why men would be possessed with such great evil to attack the citizens they swore to protect, yet it happened. I have many questions about 93, I never claimed that I have answers about 93. To believe that hole swallowed a commercial airliner is beyond reason. To accept the black box stories would be unacceptable.

I do not believe that any on who takes a few moments to read through my orginal post would not have questions about the "offical story."

By the way I did post a photo of smoke coming from a car bomb. Go back and look.

You can't gauge the size from the picture you posted.

The other thing you are neglecting to consider in your theory is the difference in the explosive power of fuel compared to the explosive power of something like C4. Consider the differences you would see in an explosion created by a pound of jet fuel and an explosion of a pound of C4.
 

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