The Paranoid Delusion of White Evangelical "Christians"

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

You are so 1965......
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Incidentally, not even Fauci will say that Covid was not created in a lab.

Do you know more than he?

I say it is because not even scientists will call it the flu because the virus is so bizarre and unnatural.
 
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Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated?
A large population of blacks & youths. Blacks because you morons convinced them that the US created aids to kill them.
Youths because AS NORMAL they think they are invincible.
Neither of which are GOP

Who is it that denies climate change?

No one. Everyone with a brain knows climate has been going up and down since the earth's creation.

Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled?

Blacks, Muslims & leftists.
Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school?
Blacks and Mexicans

Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

Christians which come in all manner of ethnicities and political beliefs.


Dumb thread.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

who lives in a free america?
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Bible archaeology is deeply flawed because their intention is to PROVE scripture. Modern Archaeologists do the work and let the work speak for itself. Israel has some excellent ones. .. So does Egypt..

Then you have frauds like Yigal Yadim or Ron Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens who use archaeology for their political agendas or to take money from believers.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.

Says the guy who believes men can give birth. LOL!
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Bible archaeology is deeply flawed because their intention is to PROVE scripture. Modern Archaeologists do the work and let the work speak for itself. Israel has some excellent ones. .. So does Egypt..

Then you have frauds like Yigal Yadim or Ron Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens who use archaeology for their political agendas or to take money from believers.
Stop showing your ignorance, it is embarrassing

Not all Biblical Archeologists are people of faith dimwit.

Why not just admit you know noting about it.

Any ancient history is of value because such writings are so rare.

But people like you would throw them in the trash cuz you disregard their beliefs.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Bible archaeology is deeply flawed because their intention is to PROVE scripture. Modern Archaeologists do the work and let the work speak for itself. Israel has some excellent ones. .. So does Egypt..

Then you have frauds like Yigal Yadim or Ron Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens who use archaeology for their political agendas or to take money from believers.
Mainstream archeology is a fraud. It all seeks to prove existing theories as historical fact. Anytime a researcher uncovers proof or evidence that the current stated history of man is wrong that person is IMMEDIATELY labeled a crackpot.

Do not believe ANYTHING you have learned as gospel. Question EVERYTHING and do your research.
Both the biblical history and modern taught history are wrong about our past.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

BlueAnon crap.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Bible archaeology is deeply flawed because their intention is to PROVE scripture. Modern Archaeologists do the work and let the work speak for itself. Israel has some excellent ones. .. So does Egypt..

Then you have frauds like Yigal Yadim or Ron Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens who use archaeology for their political agendas or to take money from believers.
Mainstream archeology is a fraud. It all seeks to prove existing theories as historical fact. Anytime a researcher uncovers proof or evidence that the current stated history of man is wrong that person is IMMEDIATELY labeled a crackpot.

Do not believe ANYTHING you have learned as gospel. Question EVERYTHING and do your research.
Both the biblical history and modern taught history are wrong about our past.
In your view what are the flaws of both?
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Bible archaeology is deeply flawed because their intention is to PROVE scripture. Modern Archaeologists do the work and let the work speak for itself. Israel has some excellent ones. .. So does Egypt..

Then you have frauds like Yigal Yadim or Ron Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens who use archaeology for their political agendas or to take money from believers.
Mainstream archeology is a fraud. It all seeks to prove existing theories as historical fact. Anytime a researcher uncovers proof or evidence that the current stated history of man is wrong that person is IMMEDIATELY labeled a crackpot.

Do not believe ANYTHING you have learned as gospel. Question EVERYTHING and do your research.
Both the biblical history and modern taught history are wrong about our past.
In your view what are the flaws of both?
Unwillingness to accept new evidence or theories. To do so could dismiss entrenched interests that could upend current teachings, invalidate textbooks & and other forms of archeology which would both cost money to correct current dogma as well as cut off the power of the establishment as it pertains to archeology
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

If they are all dying off then why do you seem so irritated by them?

Because I'm a Christian and they make me look bad.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

If they are all dying off then why do you seem so irritated by them?

Because I'm a Christian and they make me look bad.
If you fall for "looking bad" by loose association, then the problem lies with you.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Bible archaeology is deeply flawed because their intention is to PROVE scripture. Modern Archaeologists do the work and let the work speak for itself. Israel has some excellent ones. .. So does Egypt..

Then you have frauds like Yigal Yadim or Ron Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens who use archaeology for their political agendas or to take money from believers.
Mainstream archeology is a fraud. It all seeks to prove existing theories as historical fact. Anytime a researcher uncovers proof or evidence that the current stated history of man is wrong that person is IMMEDIATELY labeled a crackpot.

Do not believe ANYTHING you have learned as gospel. Question EVERYTHING and do your research.
Both the biblical history and modern taught history are wrong about our past.

Archaeology began as a discipline to prove the Bible. It has moved way beyond that.

They have turned up stone granaries in Jordan that are 14,000 years old and rock paintings in Arabia that are 8,000 years old and cave paintings in France that are 40,000 years old.

They have turned up the Anu and the Natufians.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Bible archaeology is deeply flawed because their intention is to PROVE scripture. Modern Archaeologists do the work and let the work speak for itself. Israel has some excellent ones. .. So does Egypt..

Then you have frauds like Yigal Yadim or Ron Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens who use archaeology for their political agendas or to take money from believers.
Mainstream archeology is a fraud. It all seeks to prove existing theories as historical fact. Anytime a researcher uncovers proof or evidence that the current stated history of man is wrong that person is IMMEDIATELY labeled a crackpot.

Do not believe ANYTHING you have learned as gospel. Question EVERYTHING and do your research.
Both the biblical history and modern taught history are wrong about our past.

Archaeology began as a discipline to prove the Bible. It has moved way beyond that.

They have turned up stone granaries in Jordan that are 14,000 years old and rock paintings in Arabia that are 8,000 years old and cave paintings in France that are 40,000 years old.

They have turned up the Anu and the Natufians.
Modern Archaeologists would have us believe that they created things like this THEN MOVED THEM with diarite balls, copper chisels, rope & logs.

ANYONE who believes this is a brainwashed fool.
Egyptologists are the absolute worst at suppression of dissenting ideas. It's all about the money and Egypt thrives off of the tourism dollar.

 

Yes, recent evidence suggests that the Great Sphinx is much older than most scientists believe. According to tradition, the Great Sphinx of Giza was built around 2500 b.c. by the pharaoh Khafre, during the period known as the Old Kingdom.



But hey, we can't rock the boat! It hasn't rained enough to cause that kind of water erosion in Egypt in over 10k years but lets just ignore that glaring bit of evidence.

This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. Modern evidence and theories point to the Egyptians inheriting the monuments on the Giza Plateau and altering them to suit their needs. Essentially a pre Younger Dryas civilization that was wiped out from the impact.


The evidence is there for all to see but this would rock the entire known history that we take as gospel.

Note, I didn't say proof. I do believe the theory to be more accurate than what we are currently taught.
That theory wrecks both biblically taught history as well as our regular non religious history teachings.
 
Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

Who is it that does not believe in getting vaccinated? Who is it that denies climate change? Who is it that is consistently bigoted, homophobic and hate filled? Who is it that lacks formal education beyond high school? Who is it that centers their belief system around what a televangelist is telling them (often to send more money so he can upgrade his Learjet?)

I remember these people well during the W. Bush years, but they are morphing into something even more sinister and grotesque than they were.


In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”

The current fundie movement has its roots in the schism of the Baptist Church and the formation of the Southern Baptist Church which was expressly split off over the issue of the promotion of slavery.

They organized in 1909 in Philadelphia in reaction to science and modernity. Its quite an interesting story.
Yes, any religious group from 1909 is directly comparable to fundamentalists today, just like if you are white today you should pay reparations for what whites did hundreds of years ago.

Very sell said.

What are you talking about? They decided the Bible was to be studied literally, they embraced the Scofield heresy and Christian Zionism... and fostered the Scopes Monkey Trial. It was a reactionary period against science and modernity.

Evangelicals still reject science and education.
I'm an Evangelical and I don't reject science or education.

But you flat our reject stories like the Garden of Eden, even though such stories reveal a troubling truth today. For you see, Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge which was forbidden to them. Now why do you suppose that was? Does it seem odd that the tree was so named?

But looking at the world today, what is most threatening? Is it not a virus manufactured in a lab? What could completely wipe out all life from the earth? Are they not WMD's created by scientists.

Evangelicals don't threaten all life on earth, but people like yourself do.

The message of the Garden is simple, knowledge without wisdom brings death.

As the scientist Oppenheimer said after creating the A-bomb that destroyed two Japanese cities "I have become death"

Just about every culture has aa tree of life and a tree of knowledge. .. and knowledge without wisdom is obviously not helpful

Genesis answers a lot of questions for Bronze Age people but those stories are neither science nor history. They are morality tales and teaching narratives.

I am not surprise you think Covid was manufactured in a lab.
The Bible is the only religious book I know of that is used by scientists, that is, Biblical Archeologists.

These are not religious zealots, rather, they simply respect the text in terms of its historical veracity because reading it has helped them find digs.

For example, the only historical reference to the Philistines is in the Bible. They found them in digs by simply following the text.

But being a science hater you totally disregard such findings.

Bible archaeology is deeply flawed because their intention is to PROVE scripture. Modern Archaeologists do the work and let the work speak for itself. Israel has some excellent ones. .. So does Egypt..

Then you have frauds like Yigal Yadim or Ron Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens who use archaeology for their political agendas or to take money from believers.
Mainstream archeology is a fraud. It all seeks to prove existing theories as historical fact. Anytime a researcher uncovers proof or evidence that the current stated history of man is wrong that person is IMMEDIATELY labeled a crackpot.

Do not believe ANYTHING you have learned as gospel. Question EVERYTHING and do your research.
Both the biblical history and modern taught history are wrong about our past.

Archaeology began as a discipline to prove the Bible. It has moved way beyond that.

They have turned up stone granaries in Jordan that are 14,000 years old and rock paintings in Arabia that are 8,000 years old and cave paintings in France that are 40,000 years old.

They have turned up the Anu and the Natufians.
Modern Archaeologists would have us believe that they created things like this THEN MOVED THEM with diarite balls, copper chisels, rope & logs.

ANYONE who believes this is a brainwashed fool.
Egyptologists are the absolute worst at suppression of dissenting ideas. It's all about the money and Egypt thrives off of the tourism dollar.


Have you been to Byblos and Baalbek? I have. I have seen that huge manmade block of stone.
 
We have hoards of diseased illegals who never saw a vaccination in their lives infiltrating the borders every day but the (bigoted) angry left worries about evangelical Christians. Talk about paranoid.

What makes you think that foreigners don't get vaccinations?
 

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