The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

[SavannahMann]

if he were white or hispanic he would have been chased exactly the same

Another lie will be added to your list. You do not know that to be a fact.

because non black people are criminals also...

do you really believe if Larry English would have caught a Mexican or some methed out looking redneck poking around his home we wouldn't have reported all the Criminal activity the same as he did about arberry?

local law enforcement even told the citizens they could rely on the McMichaels as First Responders because they were both professionally trained law enforcement agents

Actually we know he didn’t.

Ahmaud Arbery was one of many caught on camera trespassing at home of Larry English but only he was killed

Men, women, children caught on video trespassing on same home construction site

www.independent.co.uk

The white folks were not chased were they?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Mod escalated a verbal confrontation to a violent physical assault when he turned 90 degrees and closed on Travis McMichael

it’s impossible that this .....

..... was a 90 degree turn.

Because we would see feet instead of shadows.,

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Your fantasy is unraveling because Travis showed phenomenal restraint as he did not pull the trigger until he was attacked

How do you know TM did not pull the trigger until he was attacked?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Your fantasy is unraveling because Travis showed phenomenal restraint as he did not pull the trigger until he was attacked

How do you know TM did not pull the trigger until he was attacked?

That video does not show what happened before the first shot was fired.

You have admitted that the first shot was fired in this image you posted.

Where do you see TM being attacked?

You used to have PROOF that AA grabbed the gun and that caused the first shot to hit him in the hand.

post: 26246874

Arberrys hand injury is PROOF he was grabbing at the weapon

The first shot hit AA in the chest.

It’s chest you are a liar.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

post: 26246874

Arberrys hand injury is PROOF he was grabbing at the weapon

Really?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Your fantasy is unraveling because Travis showed phenomenal restraint as he did not pull the trigger until he was attacked

How do you know TM did not pull the trigger until he was attacked?

That video does not show what happened before the first shot was fired.

You have admitted that the first shot was fired in this image you posted.View attachment 448997

Where do you see TM being attacked?

You used to have PROOF that AA grabbed the gun and that caused the first shot to hit him in the hand.

post: 26246874

Arberrys hand injury is PROOF he was grabbing at the weapon

The first shot hit AA in the chest.

It’s chest you are a liar.

he grabbed at the muzzle after he cut his attack angle then got shot for his effort

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

post: 26246874

Arberrys hand injury is PROOF he was grabbing at the weapon

Really?

yup, wasn't a defense wound...thats why they didn't charge em till opra got upset

 

[NotfooledbyW]

yup, wasn't a defense wound...thats why they didn't charge em till opra got upset

So the first responding officers never understood that AA’s hand injury was from the second shot. Is that what you are saying.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

he grabbed at the muzzle after he cut his attack angle then got shot for his effort

Can you be clear? You say that you can see AA grabbing at the muzzle prior to the first shot in this frame. You can see a hand and the muzzle of the shotgun in this image? It’s that right?

Can you post the X-Ray vision photo so we all can see it too?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Reply to 26226865

if they were out to murder a poor innocent Negro jogger why did they just take the shot here?

They were not out to murder AA. They were out to block his path of travel and stop him by using lethal force if necessary.

Seen above, The armed men and truck are set up to block AA’s path of travel at a point where if AA was not stopped he could escape the neighborhood.

TM’s movements after the above frame took place indicate he decided to reposition himself once again to block AA’s path of travel. That time TM fired and wounded AA - not even a warning shot - Because AA refused to stop for his attackers..

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Criminal Arbary knew he was snagged trespassing and casing the house--

How do you know what AA was thinking? How do you know AA was ‘casing’ the construction site?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Don't worry. After the war these things will be right once again. The only thing to worry about is who will be firs, media or democrats..

What war?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

IS A THREAT .. IS NO THREAT
Post 26433044

Any trained military operator is going to ask himself what a man is doing to running directly at a vehicle where he knows a deadly threat exists

You question why AA would choose to run directly toward a deadly threat.

..... but you also deny that there is a deadly threat to run toward.

Post 26227918
QUOTE="KingGUERRILLA, post: 26227918, member: 76526"] nobody threatened him with the gun [/QUOTE]

Which is it you bumbling stumbling racist moron?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

IS A THREAT .. IS NO THREAT
Post 26433044

Any trained military operator is going to ask himself what a man is doing to running directly at a vehicle where he knows a deadly threat exists

You question why AA would choose to run directly toward a deadly threat.

..... but you also deny that there is a deadly threat to run toward.

Post 26227918
QUOTE="KingGUERRILLA, post: 26227918, member: 76526"] nobody threatened him with the gun

Which is it you bumbling stumbling racist moron?
[/QUOTE]
You seem to get confused easily

Clearly two white men with guns have been chasing this young black Criminal for a considerable amount of time because of his criminal activity in their neighborhood

and one point he loses them and they give up their Pursuit standing their ground in the middle of the road on the phone with 911 keeping a lookout for the criminals location

Just then they look up and see him running directly at their vehicle after having committed a violent crime of attempted carjacking on roddy

as a warning to the oncoming Criminal Travis McMichael shoulders his 12-gauge shotgun making it clear that he's willing to use it if he's forced to

The criminal breaks off his direct assault and tries to sneak around the side of the vehicle in an attempt to ambush Travis who is now foolishly trying to cut off the criminals path of Escape against his father's wise advice

The criminal sees Travis now within grabbing range of him and decides to go for it

The criminal makes a violent attempt to dislodge Travis's firearm for purposes only known to him but in doing so he becomes a deadly threat to the McMichaels who are now forced to defend themselves utilizing deadly force

We now know that Ahmaud was a mentally retarded young man who was recently diagnosed as hearing voices and had a long celebrated history of criminal Behavior including firearms possession felony theft and aggressive behavior with law enforcement... he was also from a criminal family with multiple relatives in prison at the time

it's likely he was steeped in BLM propaganda and assumed these two white men meant to do him harm even though they had not threatened him or violated the law in any way

There's no doubt that both parties presented a deadly threat to one another because of the presence of firearms

The moment Maude tried to forcibly take Travis's shotgun under control he became a deadly threat in the most basic of terms

when someone you had been chasing is now running directly at your vehicle they clearly represent a deadly threat because they are not using all the clear opportunities they have to escape by ducking inbetween houses

Ahamud was clearly a real time deadly threat to the McMichaels and I have no reason to believe his mental retardation and exposure to BLM propaganda caused him to believe that the McMichaels were a deadly threat to him

However if they were actually a deadly threat to him as his mental retardation and BLM propaganda exposure may have led him to believe and you fruit cups imply he wouldn't be running directly at them unless he had a suicide charge in mind would he

An innocent young man would never continue running on the road after men were chasing him with guns

an innocent young black jogger would immediately run between houses and seek help from Neighbors

In fact 99.99% of young black men would simply find cover behind a house in dial 911 on their cell phone but he didn't do that because he didn't want to talk to the cops and it's very likely he had decided he needed to kill his Witnesses

why else would he try to take a shotgun from a man it was physically stronger than him and had another man standing OverWatch with a 357 Magnum?

Poor dumb bastard should have just kept running away and he could have got Oprah and LeBron to help him Sue the McMichaels for millions of dollars

just look at the Starbucks idiots

 

[Faun]

if Travis ran in front of berry boy he would have been pushed DOWN the street not across it dumbass

He had a shotgun. We know he got out in front of the truck by about six feet. When he was in front of the truck in the middle of the lane he was also in front of AA. He had a shotgun you stupid racist. If AA didn’t stop he could shoot him to make him stop even from an angle.

It has already been explained to you about the angles dumbass. Try reading it this time.

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No. The video evidence shows AA turned a 45 degree angle coming around the front of the truck not expecting TM to be there. As he did that he saw TM directly either in his path or moving in the direction that would block his path and within half a second TM fired a shot hitting AA In the chest. TM then began running backwards with AA in pursuit.

They pretty much stay on a 45 degree angle coming out about 10 feet in front of the truck coming back into view and then they turn a second 45 to complete a full 90 turn perpendicular to the centerline.

But he had a perfect shot right here:
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If Travis wanted to kill a black jogger in broad daylight in front of witnesses in the middle of the street while his dad was on the phone with 911 he had a perfect opportunity in that frame!!!

he had an easy kill right there, why would he wait for Arberry to run up and be able to take cover behind his truck?

why wait till the man you had been chasing is already on top of you to pull the trigger?

He couldn't shoot Arbery there because he risked hitting Bryan who was behind Arbery. You'll note in that frame, taken from Bryan's phone, Arbery is lined up about a foot off of center from Travis' position.

what about when amaud was running around the back side of the truck he could have easily shot him then

perfect angle because Travis was standing on the driver side of the truck while Roddy was safely directly behind maude about 30 meters

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"Meters?" What country are you from?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

if Travis ran in front of berry boy he would have been pushed DOWN the street not across it dumbass

He had a shotgun. We know he got out in front of the truck by about six feet. When he was in front of the truck in the middle of the lane he was also in front of AA. He had a shotgun you stupid racist. If AA didn’t stop he could shoot him to make him stop even from an angle.

It has already been explained to you about the angles dumbass. Try reading it this time.

post: 26423706

No. The video evidence shows AA turned a 45 degree angle coming around the front of the truck not expecting TM to be there. As he did that he saw TM directly either in his path or moving in the direction that would block his path and within half a second TM fired a shot hitting AA In the chest. TM then began running backwards with AA in pursuit.

They pretty much stay on a 45 degree angle coming out about 10 feet in front of the truck coming back into view and then they turn a second 45 to complete a full 90 turn perpendicular to the centerline.

But he had a perfect shot right here:
View attachment 448563

If Travis wanted to kill a black jogger in broad daylight in front of witnesses in the middle of the street while his dad was on the phone with 911 he had a perfect opportunity in that frame!!!

he had an easy kill right there, why would he wait for Arberry to run up and be able to take cover behind his truck?

why wait till the man you had been chasing is already on top of you to pull the trigger?

He couldn't shoot Arbery there because he risked hitting Bryan who was behind Arbery. You'll note in that frame, taken from Bryan's phone, Arbery is lined up about a foot off of center from Travis' position.

what about when amaud was running around the back side of the truck he could have easily shot him then

perfect angle because Travis was standing on the driver side of the truck while Roddy was safely directly behind maude about 30 meters

View attachment 448847

"Meters?" What country are you from?

 

[Faun]

if Travis ran in front of berry boy he would have been pushed DOWN the street not across it dumbass

He had a shotgun. We know he got out in front of the truck by about six feet. When he was in front of the truck in the middle of the lane he was also in front of AA. He had a shotgun you stupid racist. If AA didn’t stop he could shoot him to make him stop even from an angle.

It has already been explained to you about the angles dumbass. Try reading it this time.

post: 26423706

No. The video evidence shows AA turned a 45 degree angle coming around the front of the truck not expecting TM to be there. As he did that he saw TM directly either in his path or moving in the direction that would block his path and within half a second TM fired a shot hitting AA In the chest. TM then began running backwards with AA in pursuit.

They pretty much stay on a 45 degree angle coming out about 10 feet in front of the truck coming back into view and then they turn a second 45 to complete a full 90 turn perpendicular to the centerline.

But he had a perfect shot right here:
View attachment 448563

If Travis wanted to kill a black jogger in broad daylight in front of witnesses in the middle of the street while his dad was on the phone with 911 he had a perfect opportunity in that frame!!!

he had an easy kill right there, why would he wait for Arberry to run up and be able to take cover behind his truck?

why wait till the man you had been chasing is already on top of you to pull the trigger?

He couldn't shoot Arbery there because he risked hitting Bryan who was behind Arbery. You'll note in that frame, taken from Bryan's phone, Arbery is lined up about a foot off of center from Travis' position.

what about when amaud was running around the back side of the truck he could have easily shot him then

perfect angle because Travis was standing on the driver side of the truck while Roddy was safely directly behind maude about 30 meters

View attachment 448847

"Meters?" What country are you from?

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That doesn't answer my question. Americans don't measure in meters. So what country are you from? Or are you too embarrassed to say?

 

[Canon Shooter]

Any trained military operator is going to ask himself what a man is doing to running directly at a vehicle where he knows a deadly threat exists

Hey, dipshit, using your definition, I'm a "trained military operator" and, as a "trained military operator" I can say, without hesitation and based on what you've written here, that you are absolutely, 100% ignorant of what a "trained military operator" knows or how he conducts himself.

In other words, you're a fucking know-nothing idiot...

 

[NotfooledbyW]

post 26436722

Travis who is now foolishly trying to cut off the criminals path of Escape against his father's wise

I thought you said TM was a highly military trained law enforcement officer who was slicing the pie in a brilliant military tactic

post 26436722

Travis who is now foolishly trying to cut off the criminals path of Escape against his father's wise

The McMichaels moved about 3 feet while your criminal hero moved around 100 yards and then pulled the 90° sneak attack ambush

he moved toward the front of the truck because anyone trained by the United States military in Firearms tactics has enough sense to put an engine block between himself and someone who is clearly a dangerous threat... it's a critical game of angles called slicing the pie,

But now your latest version has TM being foolish and not up against the engine block for protection from the unarmed jogger - slicing the pie.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

if Travis ran in front of berry boy he would have been pushed DOWN the street not across it dumbass

He had a shotgun. We know he got out in front of the truck by about six feet. When he was in front of the truck in the middle of the lane he was also in front of AA. He had a shotgun you stupid racist. If AA didn’t stop he could shoot him to make him stop even from an angle.

It has already been explained to you about the angles dumbass. Try reading it this time.

post: 26423706

No. The video evidence shows AA turned a 45 degree angle coming around the front of the truck not expecting TM to be there. As he did that he saw TM directly either in his path or moving in the direction that would block his path and within half a second TM fired a shot hitting AA In the chest. TM then began running backwards with AA in pursuit.

They pretty much stay on a 45 degree angle coming out about 10 feet in front of the truck coming back into view and then they turn a second 45 to complete a full 90 turn perpendicular to the centerline.

But he had a perfect shot right here:
View attachment 448563

If Travis wanted to kill a black jogger in broad daylight in front of witnesses in the middle of the street while his dad was on the phone with 911 he had a perfect opportunity in that frame!!!

he had an easy kill right there, why would he wait for Arberry to run up and be able to take cover behind his truck?

why wait till the man you had been chasing is already on top of you to pull the trigger?

He couldn't shoot Arbery there because he risked hitting Bryan who was behind Arbery. You'll note in that frame, taken from Bryan's phone, Arbery is lined up about a foot off of center from Travis' position.

what about when amaud was running around the back side of the truck he could have easily shot him then

perfect angle because Travis was standing on the driver side of the truck while Roddy was safely directly behind maude about 30 meters

View attachment 448847

"Meters?" What country are you from?

View attachment 449457

That doesn't answer my question. Americans don't measure in meters. So what country are you from? Or are you too embarrassed to say?

why u trying to change the subject?

berry boi was like half a football field away from the mcmichels when he decided he was done running and clearly went into Attack Mode

some believe he realized he had been identified and decided he was going to kill in order to escape

Grandpa McMichael knew him personally you know