The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

[KingGUERRILLA]

As an added legal jeopardy bonus TM has his shotgun aimed at AA right there

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

if he were white or hispanic he would have been chased exactly the same

Another lie will be added to your list. You do not know that to be a fact.

because non black people are criminals also...

do you really believe if Larry English would have caught a Mexican or some methed out looking redneck poking around his home we wouldn't have reported all the Criminal activity the same as he did about arberry?

local law enforcement even told the citizens they could rely on the McMichaels as First Responders because they were both professionally trained law enforcement agents

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Notice how none of these trailer park lawyers want to discuss how their interpretation of the law would affect other cases as this is truly its acid test

Just imagine a legal interpretation of the citizen's arrest statutes where it would be illegal for a citizen to pursue or detain an individual without absolute certainty that they were in the commission of or had just committed a felony

Literally every Good Samaritan on this list could be put in prison for many years because of their actions and this precedent would result in Good Samaritans acquiescing to criminal Behavior instead of using there basic European common law rights to pursue people under reasonable suspicion requisite

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[KingGUERRILLA]

Look man nobody in their right mind is going to Simply Veer to the right in an attempt to avoid two men with guns who were supposedly threatening them...

You are the idiot spewing AA had mental issues and yet you bring this argument to this forum. Seriously?

No one with a loaded shotgun makes this move against an unarmed jogger if his intent is to let the jogger pass by his truck unscathed.

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And TM started that attack from the position where he “aimed” the shotgun at AA right here:

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"No one with a loaded shotgun makes this move against an unarmed jogger if his intent is to let the jogger pass by his truck unscathed"

-He wasn't a jogger he was a criminal fleeing from the scene of the crime

- if Travis intended to hurt him he had lots of chances prior to being punched

- there's absolutely no way they could determine whether or not he was armed they do know he was intent on Escape however

"He wasn't a jogger he was a criminal fleeing from the scene of the crime"

He committed a misdemeanor. Georgia law doesn't allow for the McMichaels to detain anyone for anything less than a felony.

he committed a crime that precipitated Reasonable Suspicion of a felony

And then incited pursuit by fleeing and refusing to identify himself

He then escalated a confrontation by utilizing violence

sure is tough to defend a criminal isn't it?

There was no "reasonable suspicion of a felony" as none of those 3 hillbillies knew Arbery was just on that site. You lose again.

Trouble for you social justice fantasy Warriors is the fact that the McMichaels were sitting still having given up their Pursuit when they were closed on confronted and subsequently attacked

They put themnselves into a position which they thought would be beneficial in blocking Arbery.

If they'd "given up" they'd have gone the fuck home.

They didn't do that...

So even though they were standing still they were still metaphorically chasing him?

They weren't standing still. Travis got out of the truck and went into the oncoming lane. Then he went back into the same lane of the truck. That's the opposite of standing still.

Oh brother they were trying to stop a CRIMINAL from fleeing the scene of the crime---------then the criminal attacked them.

What was the crime?

A man with several decades of professional local law enforcement experience recognized a fleeing criminal wanted in a string of home invasions and burglaries

Nope, you're lying. He saw nothing. Travis was inside, so who knows what you think he saw. And Greg only saw a man running past his house.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like that.

He didn't see "a man jogging past his house"

he RECOGNIZED THE MAN wanted for the criminal activity at his neighbor's property sprinting in a full panic in front of his house and was well aware of his activities in the neighborhood because of his personal first-hand immediate knowledge and experience including his son's personal first hand witnessing of Maudes trespassing and suspicious movements in the neibourhood

the entire neighborhood had seen his photo and was calling 911 and rushing over to Larry english's house with guns

 

[Faun]

It doesn't matter at all if he ran in front of arberry and blocked his straight line path of Escape

What do you mean it doesn’t matter? It matters because your whole line of bullshit is wrong. If TM ran ahead of AA and cut off his path then TM is probably 6 feet ahead of the truck and there is no 90° angle that AA turned. There is none of your white supremacist bullshit that TM was using the engine block for cover standing right next to the truck if he’s about 6 feet away when the first shot was fired. Now that you are giving up your ridiculous interpretation of the facts Such as the one where you say TM walked about 3 feet after he raised his shotgun and aimed towards AA from the driver side of the truck to the position 6 feet ahead of the truck where he’s blocking AAs path it means there is no argument that TM was simply standing his ground. It means TM was aggressive and attacking the route we’re AA decided to go as an escape. TM cannot claim self-defense when he is blocking AAs escape and he shoots AA in the lower chest.

Who committed the first crime that provoked the entire thing and who committed the first act of violence?

That question has been answered so often as to be approved by the Department of Redundancy Department. It was the McMichaels. That is why they are in jail. It is why they are facing decades in prison. It is why their own attorneys admit crimes were committed.

Ahmauds criminal activity in the neighborhood is what precipitated the entire thing and Ahmaud escalated what was simply a pursuit by attacking a man standing his ground who hadent even aimed a gun at him or touched him in any way

It's a laughable notion that two trucks could "trap" a young athletic black man with a penchant for trespass in this neighborhood

two trucks couldn't trap a city bus on these roads LOL

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If they couldn't block him, then how is it Arbery couldn't escape their neighborhood after trying to do so for more than 4 minutes?

I'm not sure he was trying to escape when he was trying to get in Roddy's car and running directly at the McMichaels with an intention to violently attack them

If he believed he had been identified killing the witnesses would have been his only way to escape jail

You're lying again. He wasn't trying to get into Bryan's car.

Ahmaud Arbery was hit with a truck before he died, and his killer allegedly used a racial slur, investigator testifies | CNN

William Bryan told investigators he heard Travis McMichael use a racial epithet after fatally shooting Ahmaud Arbery in Glynn County, a Georgia Bureau of Investigation agent testified Thursday at a preliminary hearing.

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And of course he was trying to escape the neighborhood. The hillbillies even said so and that they blocked his escape several times. So again I ask, since you avoided answering the first time...

If they couldn't block him, then how is it Arbery couldn't escape their neighborhood after trying to do so for more than 4 minutes?

 

[Faun]

As an added legal jeopardy bonus TM has his shotgun aimed at AA right there

LOL

Dumbfuck, how did Arbery get shot if Travis never raised his gun at him?

 

[Canon Shooter]

bond was denied entirely on their behavior AFTER the shooting

all they did was try to delete naughty text messages that they fear will drum up drama of racism... the kind of knee-jerk emotional drama that sends men to prison even though they didn't violate a law in our deeply broken country

Their denial of bond had absolutely nothing to do with the actions on the ground during the shooting because those actions were completely Justified

I swear to fuckin' God you're dumber than a bag of hammers.

I thought, given that you posted a video, that somewhere in that video there might be something that says the judge denied bail because of them trying to delete racist text messages. That wasn't there. In the case of Travis, the existence of those text messages and social media posts is what compelled the judge to deny bail, not the attempted removal of them.

As for Gregory, the judge felt that, after viewing the body cam footage (which you have cited numerous times), there was a concern that Gregory might attempt to impact the investigation.

So, yeah, again you're lying.

Again, if their actions were comnpletely justified, they wouldn't be sitting in cells charged with 1st degree murder...

 

[Faun]

Look man nobody in their right mind is going to Simply Veer to the right in an attempt to avoid two men with guns who were supposedly threatening them...

You are the idiot spewing AA had mental issues and yet you bring this argument to this forum. Seriously?

No one with a loaded shotgun makes this move against an unarmed jogger if his intent is to let the jogger pass by his truck unscathed.

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And TM started that attack from the position where he “aimed” the shotgun at AA right here:

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LOL@
"No one with a loaded shotgun makes this move against an unarmed jogger if his intent is to let the jogger pass by his truck unscathed"

-He wasn't a jogger he was a criminal fleeing from the scene of the crime

- if Travis intended to hurt him he had lots of chances prior to being punched

- there's absolutely no way they could determine whether or not he was armed they do know he was intent on Escape however

"He wasn't a jogger he was a criminal fleeing from the scene of the crime"

He committed a misdemeanor. Georgia law doesn't allow for the McMichaels to detain anyone for anything less than a felony.

he committed a crime that precipitated Reasonable Suspicion of a felony

And then incited pursuit by fleeing and refusing to identify himself

He then escalated a confrontation by utilizing violence

sure is tough to defend a criminal isn't it?

There was no "reasonable suspicion of a felony" as none of those 3 hillbillies knew Arbery was just on that site. You lose again.

Trouble for you social justice fantasy Warriors is the fact that the McMichaels were sitting still having given up their Pursuit when they were closed on confronted and subsequently attacked

They put themnselves into a position which they thought would be beneficial in blocking Arbery.

If they'd "given up" they'd have gone the fuck home.

They didn't do that...

So even though they were standing still they were still metaphorically chasing him?

They weren't standing still. Travis got out of the truck and went into the oncoming lane. Then he went back into the same lane of the truck. That's the opposite of standing still.

Oh brother they were trying to stop a CRIMINAL from fleeing the scene of the crime---------then the criminal attacked them.

What was the crime?

A man with several decades of professional local law enforcement experience recognized a fleeing criminal wanted in a string of home invasions and burglaries

Nope, you're lying. He saw nothing. Travis was inside, so who knows what you think he saw. And Greg only saw a man running past his house.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like that.

He didn't see "a man jogging past his house"

he RECOGNIZED THE MAN wanted for the criminal activity at his neighbor's property sprinting in a full panic in front of his house and was well aware of his activities in the neighborhood because of his personal first-hand immediate knowledge and experience including his son's personal first hand witnessing of Maudes trespassing and suspicious movements in the neibourhood

the entire neighborhood had seen his photo and was calling 911 and rushing over to Larry english's house with guns

No one reported seeing Arbery committing a felony, so he did not have immediate knowledge of a felony, which is a requirement of the law.

 

[Canon Shooter]

he RECOGNIZED THE MAN wanted for the criminal activity at his neighbor's property

Arbery was not wanted. There had been no warrant issued for his arrest...

the entire neighborhood had seen his photo and was calling 911 and rushing over to Larry english's house with guns

What?

You have, like, mental tourettes. You just blurt out nonsensical bullshit hoping people will believe it.

When, exactly, was this armed descension onto Larry English's property?

 

[Canon Shooter]

I bet Richard Ramirez wishes the Mexican American heros that ran his serial killer ass down in Southern California were a bunch of limp-wristed sissies like you...

The difference, which you're clearly too fucking stupid to comprehend, is that Ramirez was a wanted man. There was a warrant issued for his arrest. His photo had been released by the police.

In contrast, Arbery was not a wanted man. The police did not have a warrant for his arrest. His photo had not been released by the police.

You're a three time fuck up, and your hero wannabe KKK boys are gonna' die in prison...

 

[NotfooledbyW]

what about when amaud was running around the back side of the truck he could have easily shot him then

The proves TM didn’t shoot AA then. TM Shot AA about a second later - so what’s the point? TM shot AA and then AA tried to take away the gun..

 

[NotfooledbyW]

running directly at the McMichaels with an intention to violently attack them

Where do you get AA’s intent? He was running to escape and showed intent to avoid physical contact right here:

AA cannot be held responsible for TM’s response to the swerve. TM moved toward the front of the truck to a spot about six feet ahead of it and toward the passenger side. TM moved to block AA’s escape a second time. AA didn’t stop or couldn’t stop because TM was in motion and AA didn’t see him until it was too late. TM shot him for not stopping according to his unlawful commands to stop.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

what about when amaud was running around the back side of the truck he could have easily shot him then

The proves TM didn’t shoot AA then. TM Shot AA about a second later - so what’s the point? TM shot AA and then AA tried to take away the gun..

Travis shot maude AFTER maude made his fateful change of direction escalating a simple verbal conflict to actual violence

they never even touched him nor pointed a weapon at him and it's a laughable notion to suggest a car sitting in the middle of the road is blocking your path

A tractor-trailer could have got around that vehicle

maude wasent trying to escape after the carjacking attempt...he was clearly on the attack

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

running directly at the McMichaels with an intention to violently attack them

Where do you get AA’s intent? He was running to escape and showed intent to avoid physical contact right here:
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AA cannot be held responsible for TM’s response to the swerve. TM moved toward the front of the truck to a spot about six feet ahead of it and toward the passenger side. TM moved to block AA’s escape a second time. AA didn’t stop or couldn’t stop because TM was in motion and didn’t see him until it was too late. TM shot him for not stopping according to command.

He wasn't stupid enough to charge directly at a man who had shouldered a shotgun from such a long distance

It's likely when he saw Travis walking toward the front of the truck he figured he had a chance to disarm Travis because they were so close and Travis had proved he was unwilling to even aim the gun at him is their multiple previous encounters

Grandpa was yelling "Travis don't" because he knew Travis was making a mistake by walking toward Arberry

travis should have stayed on the far side of the truck for his own protection however if mod had opened fire from the other side of the truck Grandpa would have been dead meat unless Travis was at the front of the truck so he could slice the pie on Arberry

Any trained military operator is going to ask himself what a man is doing to running directly at a vehicle where he knows a deadly threat exists

After all a young black Criminal on parole who just trespassed in a Neighborhood House in the Deep South being changed chased by two white men with guns is definitely a recipe for panic

It makes absolutely no logical sense as an escape option so it could only be an attack and if mod had taken up position opened fire from the engine block both the McMichaels would have been in an extremely bad position for a gunfight

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Travis had proved he was unwilling to even aim the gun at him is their multiple previous encounters

You are absurd. Travis ‘proved’ no such thing. That’s ridiculous even for you.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Any trained military operator is going to ask himself what a man is doing to running directly at a vehicle where he knows a deadly threat exists

You stupid F’head. My god! you argue that TM showed weakness and restraint by never aiming the shotgun at AA. And now you argue that AA should not have tried to escape by running past but to close too a deadly threat.

you make no sense..

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Travis had proved he was unwilling to even aim the gun at him is their multiple previous encounters

You are absurd. Travis ‘proved’ no such thing. That’s ridiculous even for you.

Travis was a professionally trained law enforcement agent and lifelong local resident he was also a Firearms enthusiast

these people know the gun laws

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Any trained military operator is going to ask himself what a man is doing to running directly at a vehicle where he knows a deadly threat exists

You stupid F’head. My god! you argue that TM showed weakness and restraint by never aiming the shotgun at AA. And now you argue that AA should not have tried to escape by running past but to close too a deadly threat.

you make no sense..

Any innocent young black jogger would have ducked between houses to create space and attain cover from a deadly threat such as a klansman with a shotgun LOL

Your fantasy is unraveling because Travis showed phenomenal restraint as he did not pull the trigger until he was attacked

Mod escalated a verbal confrontation to a violent physical assault when he turned 90 degrees and closed on Travis McMichael

Travis was literally airborne and flying backward throughout the seconds unfolding in the initial discharge of the shotgun

During the rest of the assault Travis continue to move backward and sustained multiple punches to the Head

The split-second mod released his grip on the shotgun Travis stopped firing dropped his firearm and continued to move backwards

 

[NotfooledbyW]

travis should have stayed on the far side of the truck for his own protection however if mod had opened fire from the other side of the truck Grandpa would have been dead meat unless Travis was at the front of the truck so he could slice the pie on Arberry

You are nuts.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Your fantasy is unraveling because Travis showed phenomenal restraint as he did not pull the trigger until he was attacked

How do you know TM did not pull the trigger until he was attacked?