The Orwellian Prohibition: Any Mention of Mr. Trump’s Felon Status On The House Floor

[Dante]

This Pub “gag order’ is right in line with with their attempts to bar language they can’s handle. Pubs in Florida have removed “climate change” from its statutes, Remember these are the same idiots who came up with “freedom fries.”

Florida Gov. DeSantis signs bill removing climate change references from state law

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has signed a controversial new law that removes most references to climate change from state legislation.

www.4coffshore.com

Pubs are like ostriches. Ban a word and that will cure the problem. They seems to have a fascination in this type of censorship. Republicans are cancelling words, history, and ideas in libraries and schools

I have news for Pubs, deleting a word or term will not make the problem go away and will not kill an idea. Banning the word cancer will not cure cancer.

I've seen the Florida nonsense. Now Desantis has even cancelled out art grants. I guess MAGA fears artists too.

 

[Rambunctious]

 

[Rambunctious]

I've seen the Florida nonsense. Now Desantis has even cancelled out art grants. I guess MAGA fears artists too.

 

[JLW]

I've seen the Florida nonsense. Now Desantis has even cancelled out art grants. I guess MAGA fears artists too.

That is true. I was going to start a thread on that topic. What DuhSantis did was petty and will hurt communities that need tourist dollars as well as their local arts scene. Pettiness is a hallmark of the Trumpist neo-conservative movement.

 

[SavannahMann]

They are a bunch of lawyers. Technically there is no felon status until sentencing. Especially true in Trump's case since the verdict might be overturned on a mistrial.

No. You are a convicted felon after the Judge accepts the verdict of the jury.

The sentencing is what comes after that. The punishment that the system believes you have earned by your actions.

Just as the fact that you are impeached even if the senate does not vote to remove you from office. You are still impeached.

Yes. That applies to Clinton too.

 

[Concerned American]

You couldn't be more delusional if you mistakenly swallowed a whole sheet of Jerry Garcia acid.

Run along Dainty, you're trolling for support. You won't find it here.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No. You are a convicted felon after the Judge accepts the verdict of the jury.

The sentencing is what comes after that. The punishment that the system believes you have earned by your actions.

Just as the fact that you are impeached even if the Senate does not vote to remove you from office. You are still impeached.

Yes. That applies to Clinton too.

I wasn't talking about how people feel about conviction but about how lawyers view conviction. After a jury votes to convict, which is what the jury does, the court issues a judgment of guilt and sentences. That is why so many lawyers say that Trump hasn't been convicted of anything yet because there's been no judgment that will occur at sentencing.

 

[Dante]

Run along Dainty, you're trolling for support. You won't find it here.

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Conservatives on NY State Court: Anthony Cannataro. Michael Garcia. Madeline Singas.


and the difference is...

New York’s high court won’t hear Trump’s gag order challenge​

The appellate court shot down Trump's First Amendment gripes and kept the order active.
June 18, 2024

New York’s top court turns down Trump’s request to hear appeal of gag order​

New York's top court turns down Trump's request to hear appeal of gag order

The Republican former president has repeatedly railed against the hush money case gag order, which prevents him from commenting on witnesses, jurors and others who were involved in the case.

www.pbs.org

New York’s high court won’t hear Trump’s gag order challenge

The appellate court shot down Trump's First Amendment gripes and kept the order active.

www.courthousenews.com

 

[Dante]

I wasn't talking about how people feel about conviction but about how lawyers view conviction. After a jury votes to convict, which is what the jury does, the court issues a judgment of guilt and sentences. That is why so many lawyers say that Trump hasn't been convicted of anything yet because there's been no judgment that will occur at sentencing.

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You're wrong. You're shit-talkin' again.

"We find the defendant guilty on all counts." -- that is a conviction. If a judge intervened -- he'd be setting aside -- a conviction. A convicted felon can appeal.

Trump Is a Convicted Felon. Does That Actually Mean Anything?

He cannot serve on a jury. BU LAW experts explain what rights the former president may or may not see restricted and how that could affect a Trump presidency

www.bu.edu

When a New York jury found former President Donald J. Trump guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, it was historic for a number of reasons. The guilty verdicts represent the first-ever criminal conviction of a former president, and they make Trump the second person to campaign for president as a convicted felon. (The first was Eugene V. Debs, the Socialist Party candidate who famously ran for president from a jail cell in the 1920 election.) Trump’s sentencing is expected in early July.

 

[Dante]

I wasn't talking about how people feel about conviction but about how lawyers view conviction

Lawyers have been calling Mr. Trump a convicted felon.

 

[Concerned American]

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Conservatives on NY State Court: Anthony Cannataro. Michael Garcia. Madeline Singas.


and the difference is...

New York’s high court won’t hear Trump’s gag order challenge​

The appellate court shot down Trump's First Amendment gripes and kept the order active.
June 18, 2024

New York’s top court turns down Trump’s request to hear appeal of gag order​

New York's top court turns down Trump's request to hear appeal of gag order

The Republican former president has repeatedly railed against the hush money case gag order, which prevents him from commenting on witnesses, jurors and others who were involved in the case.

www.pbs.org

New York’s high court won’t hear Trump’s gag order challenge

The appellate court shot down Trump's First Amendment gripes and kept the order active.

www.courthousenews.com

Don't drown in your tears when the SCOTUS overturns the NY marxist court.

 

[Concerned American]

Lawyers have been calling Mr. Trump a convicted felon.

So have you, LMAO, they don't have a corner on facts or the constitution. Try again.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Lawyers have been calling Mr. Trump a convicted felon.

Democrats have because they think they are affecting public opinion. That boat sailed long ago. Only a democrat will believe another democrat.

 

[Dante]

Democrats have because they think they are affecting public opinion. That boat sailed long ago. Only a democrat will believe another democrat.

You and Concerned American , and others need to listen up. You're arguments here (if you can call your comments that), are more cultish than anything. It's disturbing on so many levels.

What is a Cult of Personality?​

A cult of personality refers to a group of people united by the extreme reverence of a charismatic leader. Nikita Khrushchev first coined the term cult of personality in his 1956 speech titled "On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences." Khrushchev warned against blind allegiance to a leader, especially since leaders are human and have flaws. A leader with a significant flaw could lead a country to ruin. This pejorative term, the cult of personality, has stuck ever since and is applicable throughout history and cultures.

Generally, the most notorious leaders of personality cults are the rulers of totalitarian or authoritarian governments. Totalitarian and authoritarian governments are ruled by a single leader who uses political, social, philosophical, or religious beliefs to maintain total control of a geographic domain or group of people. While many cults of personality revolve around totalitarian and authoritarian leaders, other examples do not, such as personality cults based on celebrity admiration and corporate culture. The leader of a cult of personality uses many tactics to inspire devotion, such as propaganda or advertising with the intent to sway opinion.

Cult of Personality | Definition, Characteristics & Examples - Lesson | Study.com

What is a "cult of personality." Learn the definition and see examples of how authoritarian states can create a cult of personality around their...

study.com

There is a whole chapter here:

Recovering From Being In A Cult​

Signs You're In A Cult: Understanding the Psychology of Undue Influence - The Truism Center

Have you ever wondered how ordinary, intelligent people find themselves trapped in a cult? The answer is deceptively simple and concealed within the everyday, rooted in nuanced techniques of psychological manipulation. The workings of cults extend beyond the stereotypical secret ceremonies; more...

thetruismcenter.com

Good luck

 

[Dante]

Don't drown in your tears when the SCOTUS overturns the NY marxist court.

The Supreme Court is not involved in this state case.

 

[Concerned American]

You're arguments here

Learn to speak English, before you attack others Dainty. Why would I waste my time with anyone that is as obviously illiterate as you are?

 

[Concerned American]

A cult of personality refers to a group of people united by the extreme reverence of a charismatic leader.

Democrats blindly following Biden.

Khrushchev warned against blind allegiance to a leader, especially since leaders are human and have flaws.

Yet here you are blindly following a demented old vegetable and a fascist party

A leader with a significant flaw could lead a country to ruin.

Biden and the democrats are well on their way.

Generally, the most notorious leaders of personality cults are the rulers of totalitarian or authoritarian governments.

Those that use the government to politically persecute and attempt to silence their opposition---Biden and the democrats.

The leader of a cult of personality uses many tactics to inspire devotion, such as propaganda or advertising with the intent to sway opinion.

Sounds exactly like the Marxist msm. Take your fascism down the road.

 

[Dante]

Learn to speak English, before you attack others Dainty. Why would I waste my time with anyone that is as obviously illiterate as you are?

I wonder what the percentage of comments here in this thread are yours?

and...

No toleration of criticizing Mr. Trump as a felon is allowed. Is this the ultimate in cancel culture? Gaga order? Is this an attack on Freedom of Speech, disguised as some congressional rule preventing certain types of speech?

What slippery road has the GOP of today gone down in order to shield, or protect Mr. Trump? What kind of behavior is this?

The Orwellian Prohibition: Any Mention of Mr. Trump’s Felon Status On The House Floor

No toleration of criticizing Mr. Trump as a felon is allowed. Is this the ultimate in cancel culture? Gaga order? Is this an attack on Freedom of Speech, disguised as some congressional rule preventing certain types of speech? What slippery road has the GOP of today gone down in order to...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Dante]

Democrats blindly following Biden.

Yet here you are blindly following a demented old vegetable and a fascist party

Biden and the democrats are well on their way.

Those that use the government to politically persecute and attempt to silence their opposition---Biden and the democrats.

Sounds exactly like the Marxist msm. Take your fascism down the road.

This is so pathetic. I can't possibly bring myself to comment on each inane point.

We'll just sit here and mock you.

congressional memo

On the House Floor, Republicans Gag Mentions of Trump’s Conviction​

During official proceedings of the G.O.P.-controlled chamber, speaking about former President Donald J. Trump’s felony conviction has been forbidden, while disparaging President Biden and Democrats is routine.

The Republicans who now hold the majority have used those rules to impose what is essentially a gag order against talking about Mr. Trump’s hush-money payments to a porn actress or about the fact that he is a felon at all, notwithstanding that those assertions are no longer merely allegations but the basis of a jury’s guilty verdict. Doing so, they have declared, is a violation of House rules.

 

[SavannahMann]

I wasn't talking about how people feel about conviction but about how lawyers view conviction. After a jury votes to convict, which is what the jury does, the court issues a judgment of guilt and sentences. That is why so many lawyers say that Trump hasn't been convicted of anything yet because there's been no judgment that will occur at sentencing.

I don’t know what paid pundits you have been listening to. But you are convicted when the Judge accepts the verdict.

That’s why Trump is required to check in with the Probation Office. So they can explain that Trump is required to let them know where he is because they keep track of convicts. Not people who may be convicted.

What is the Difference Between Being "Charged" and Being "Convicted"?

www.bostondefenselaw.com

I’d check the resumes of those Twitter lawyers carefully. Especially the educational claims.