The only way to pay off this massive Republican caused deficit.

[Truthmatters]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zefH78DvJvk&feature=response_watch]YouTube - George W Bush bail out plan - Part 1 Sept 24, 2008[/ame]

 

[rdean]

What a stupid and obviously fraudulent premise.

The guy neubarf loves so much, President Obama, is demanding and getting authority to increase of national debt to such massive depths that there will never be any honest way to pay it off.

The economic retard in chief (President Obama) is sending us toward a realm within 10 years where 90 cents of every dollar spend by the Federal Government will be DEBT.

The insane economics of that imbecile, that dishonest socialist/Marxist inclined dufus, is already unsustainable. When it gets magnified several fold, there is no chance of making the unsustainable somehow now sustainable.

Did the GOP contribute to this mess? Yes. But how anybody could lay the entire blame at their feet is beyond reason. The majority of the problem is the liberal tax and spend and borrowing idiocy of the liberal Democratics and the liberal Democratics bear the significant majority of the blame.

And they MUST be stopped.

Contribute? See post 17. Especially the part about providing links.

Why even bother?

You post to bullshit that says tax cuts "cost" 2.5 trillion dollars as though that even makes any sense. It doesn't. A government not taking in OUR fucking money doesn't COST the government anything. Expenditures cost money.

When the CBO projects the ACTUAL costs of the Obama plans, NOTING, as it did, that it is UNSUSTAINABLE, you liberal tools ignore that. You ignore links to it. You ignore analysis based on it. And you instead PRETEND that tax cuts COST money.

I tried it before and you libs tended to duck it: Let's do an experiment. Let's go back to 2009. Remember 2009? That was in the FIRST year of the Obama Administration. HERE is (in part) what the CBO said then:

CNSNews.com
Obama’s Deficit Projections Off by $2.3 Trillion, Congressional Budget Office Says
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
By Matt Cover, Staff Writer


President Barack Obama at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building on Tuesday, March 17, 2009. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
(CNSNews.com) – The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) says that President Obama’s budget and deficit projections are too low. The president’s budget will incur $9.3 trillion in federal deficits between 2010 and 2019 --$2.3 trillion higher than Obama had originally claimed.

The CBO’s latest analysis, released Friday, showed that the president’s proposed budget will increase the deficit to $1.8 trillion in 2009; $1.4 trillion in 2010; and $970 billion in 2011 -- falling to $658 billion in 2012 before rising again to $1.2 trillion in 2019.

The total deficit from 2010 to 2019 was pegged at $9.3 trillion. The deficit is nort expected to fall below a floor of $500 billion for the foreseeable future, the report pointed out.

In fact, the budget office found that Obama’s projected deficits are more than double what they would be if the president had merely stuck with the current spending and taxation proposals left by the Bush administration.

Under current spending proposals, including the $787 billion stimulus spending and $410 billion omnibus spending bills, the deficit would total $4.4 trillion over 10 years, not the $9.3 trillion Obama’s budget incurs.

Obama’s record deficits mean a record national debt – one that totals $17 trillion, up from the current $6.7 trillion.

By 2019, the CBO said, a whopping 82 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product (GDP) will go to pay down the national debt. This means that in future years, the government could owe its creditors more than the goods and services that the entire economy can produce.

White House budget chief Peter Orszag, in a March 20 conference call, admitted that deficits in the range of 5 percent of GDP are not sustainable. The CBO analysis, however, said the Obama budget would incur a debt-to-GDP ration of 5.3 percent for the Fiscal Year 2010 to Fiscal Year 2019 period.

“Deficits in the let's say 5 percent of GDP range would lead to rising debt-to-GDP ratios in a manner that would ultimately not be sustainable,” Orszag explained.

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CNSNews.com - Obama?s Deficit Projections Off by $2.3 Trillion, Congressional Budget Office Says{Emphases mine}

You can see the original CBO March 2009 Analysis here: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10014/03-20-PresidentBudget.pdf

Now, let us jump ahead a little bit. This year! I KNOW you remember THIS year.

Obama Spending Plan Underestimates Deficits, Budget Office Says

By Brian Faler

March 6 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama’s budget proposal would create bigger deficits than advertised every year of the next decade, with the shortfalls totaling $1.2 trillion more than the administration projected, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

The nonpartisan agency said yesterday the deficit will remain above 4 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product for the foreseeable future while the publicly held debt will zoom to $20.3 trillion, amounting to 90 percent of GDP by 2020. By then, interest payments on the debt will have quadrupled to more than $900 billion annually, the report said.

Deficits between 2011 and 2020 would total $9.76 trillion, the CBO said.

Economists generally consider deficits topping 3 percent of GDP to be unsustainable because that means government debt is growing faster than the ability to pay back the money.

“The news today from CBO is clear: The president’s budget will continue to lead our nation into a fiscal catastrophe -- an ever worse one than the president’s own numbers suggest,” Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the top Republican on the House Budget Committee, said yesterday.

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Obama Spending Plan Underestimates Deficits, Budget Office Says - Bloomberg.com {Emphases mine.}

Maybe geniuses like you think Ryan is "wrong."

But everyone else recognizes the obvious. Ryan is absolutely right. It's not even a question. Last year even the President's OWN budget chief acknowledged as much. It is "UNSUSTAINABLE!" So,in response, based on Obamanomic planning, it is getting much WORSE!

90%. Are you freakin' libs OUT OF YOUR MINDS?

Let me point out that the title of this thread is:

"The only way to pay off this massive Republican caused deficit."

To suggest that Obama CAUSED the deficit is a plain lie. He is working with what he was given. If he started with the same "surplus" Bush and the Republicans had, it would be a totally different ball game.

Every link you've given only starts with Obama's administration and does nothing to examine the "root" of the problem. Why does anyone believe that the people who got us into this mess has any idea of how to get us out? It doesn't make a lick of sense.

I watched a news report last night that suggested our military was 20% of the budget and Medicare and Medicaid and money for emergency room treatment was 65% and everything else was the remaining 15%.

We are not going to solve this crisis on cutting the 20% military alone or the relatively small "everything else" at 15%. We have to tackle Medicare, Medicaid, emergency room visits and health care plus the other 20% and 15%.

New Data Say Uninsured Account for Nearly One-Fifth of Emergency Room Visits

1/5th of emergency room visits are by the uninsured. That's minimum a $1,000 per visit by 25 million people. That's 25 BILLION dollars right there. Since the number one cause of bankruptcy are medical bills, it's probably a pretty good bet most of these people will pay nothing.

Even the 12 billion the top four insurance companies made is only a drop in the bucket, in spite of them cutting 2.7 million Americans.

To reduce the deficit is going to take a combination of:

Cutting military spending, including bringing troops home from not just Iraq, but also, Germany, Japan, certain places in the Middle East among others.

Reducing health care costs so people end up with more money in the wallet and reduce the number of "medical bankruptcies".

Instigate programs for "good health" which will reduce the number of sick (payment cuts for weight loss, etc.)

Invest in America's decaying infrastructure. That will begin developing a sustainable tax base for further funding as well as free up money for consumers.

Invests in education and developing new energy technologies to get us off foreign oil.

And finally, the number one thing that will get out of out debt is to "grow the economy", which will not happen if these other things don't.

The Republican plan of "do nothing", for lack of better words, will, "do nothing".


Side bar:
I was watching Donald Trump talk on "Morning Joe", a man who is hardly "liberal" who said he just returned from China. He said the Chinese laugh at us. They think we are so stupid because they put up all kinds of tariffs and taxes to keep our goods out of their economy but we refuse to do the same thing because we believe in "free trade". They see us as the gift that just keeps giving. Their military is 8% of their GDP while ours is 20% and they are going to cut theirs to even less.

 

[elvis]

Contribute? See post 17. Especially the part about providing links.

Why even bother?

You post to bullshit that says tax cuts "cost" 2.5 trillion dollars as though that even makes any sense. It doesn't. A government not taking in OUR fucking money doesn't COST the government anything. Expenditures cost money.

When the CBO projects the ACTUAL costs of the Obama plans, NOTING, as it did, that it is UNSUSTAINABLE, you liberal tools ignore that. You ignore links to it. You ignore analysis based on it. And you instead PRETEND that tax cuts COST money.

I tried it before and you libs tended to duck it: Let's do an experiment. Let's go back to 2009. Remember 2009? That was in the FIRST year of the Obama Administration. HERE is (in part) what the CBO said then: CNSNews.com - Obama?s Deficit Projections Off by $2.3 Trillion, Congressional Budget Office Says{Emphases mine}

You can see the original CBO March 2009 Analysis here: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10014/03-20-PresidentBudget.pdf

Now, let us jump ahead a little bit. This year! I KNOW you remember THIS year.

Obama Spending Plan Underestimates Deficits, Budget Office Says

By Brian Faler

March 6 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama’s budget proposal would create bigger deficits than advertised every year of the next decade, with the shortfalls totaling $1.2 trillion more than the administration projected, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

The nonpartisan agency said yesterday the deficit will remain above 4 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product for the foreseeable future while the publicly held debt will zoom to $20.3 trillion, amounting to 90 percent of GDP by 2020. By then, interest payments on the debt will have quadrupled to more than $900 billion annually, the report said.

Deficits between 2011 and 2020 would total $9.76 trillion, the CBO said.

Economists generally consider deficits topping 3 percent of GDP to be unsustainable because that means government debt is growing faster than the ability to pay back the money.

“The news today from CBO is clear: The president’s budget will continue to lead our nation into a fiscal catastrophe -- an ever worse one than the president’s own numbers suggest,” Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the top Republican on the House Budget Committee, said yesterday.

* * * *

Obama Spending Plan Underestimates Deficits, Budget Office Says - Bloomberg.com {Emphases mine.}

Maybe geniuses like you think Ryan is "wrong."

But everyone else recognizes the obvious. Ryan is absolutely right. It's not even a question. Last year even the President's OWN budget chief acknowledged as much. It is "UNSUSTAINABLE!" So,in response, based on Obamanomic planning, it is getting much WORSE!

90%. Are you freakin' libs OUT OF YOUR MINDS?

Let me point out that the title of this thread is:

"The only way to pay off this massive Republican caused deficit."

To suggest that Obama CAUSED the deficit is a plain lie. He is working with what he was given. If he started with the same "surplus" Bush and the Republicans had, it would be a totally different ball game.

Every link you've given only starts with Obama's administration and does nothing to examine the "root" of the problem. Why does anyone believe that the people who got us into this mess has any idea of how to get us out? It doesn't make a lick of sense.

I watched a news report last night that suggested our military was 20% of the budget and Medicare and Medicaid and money for emergency room treatment was 65% and everything else was the remaining 15%.

We are not going to solve this crisis on cutting the 20% military alone or the relatively small "everything else" at 15%. We have to tackle Medicare, Medicaid, emergency room visits and health care plus the other 20% and 15%.

New Data Say Uninsured Account for Nearly One-Fifth of Emergency Room Visits

1/5th of emergency room visits are by the uninsured. That's minimum a $1,000 per visit by 25 million people. That's 25 BILLION dollars right there. Since the number one cause of bankruptcy are medical bills, it's probably a pretty good bet most of these people will pay nothing.

Even the 12 billion the top four insurance companies made is only a drop in the bucket, in spite of them cutting 2.7 million Americans.

To reduce the deficit is going to take a combination of:

Cutting military spending, including bringing troops home from not just Iraq, but also, Germany, Japan, certain places in the Middle East among others.

Reducing health care costs so people end up with more money in the wallet and reduce the number of "medical bankruptcies".

Instigate programs for "good health" which will reduce the number of sick (payment cuts for weight loss, etc.)

Invest in America's decaying infrastructure. That will begin developing a sustainable tax base for further funding as well as free up money for consumers.

Invents in eduction and developing new energy technologies to get us off foreign oil.

And finally, the number one thing that will get out of out debt is to "grow the economy", which will not happen if these other things don't.

The Republican plan of "do nothing", for lack of better words, will, "do nothing".


Side bar:
I was watching Donald Trump talk on "Morning Joe", a man who is hardly "liberal" who said he just returned from China. He said the Chinese laugh at us. They think we are so stupid because they put up all kinds of tariffs and taxes to keep our goods out of their economy but we refuse to do the same thing because we believe in "free trade". They see us as the gift that just keeps giving. Their military is 8% of their GDP while ours is 20% and they are going to cut theirs to even less.

he didn't CAUSE the deficit. He is going to DOUBLE the deficit, you stupid fuck.

 

[Truthmatters]

YouTube - George W Bush bail out plan - Part 1 Sept 24, 2008

Remember we have documented proof of who caused this.

 

[AquaAthena]

The fastest way to socialism is by vote and an impoverished nation who finds inself dependent upon government.

Regardless of who caused the mess we are in, I am sure it quite pleases the power-lust ambitions of our current administration, who is seeking government control, by putting the citizens of America into slavery.

Protect your private property rights, for without those, we are nothing more than chattel and Obama and Czars, our rulers. This man's policies are to further indebt us, not pull us out. Thus, the out of control spending. He is in a hurry. November looms.

 

[Liability]

* * * *

Let me point out that the title of this thread is:

"The only way to pay off this massive Republican caused deficit."

You are an overly verbose but very dull-minded dickhead.

The REPUBLICANS DIDN'T "cause" the deficits, you lying mutt. Let me remind you, that you are nothing but a liar. The Republicans are PARTLY responsible for it, but he claim that THEY "caused" it is unsupportable because it is a filthy liberal lie.

To suggest that Obama CAUSED the deficit is a plain lie.

You truly are a fucking lying retard, asshole.

Nobody I know said that President Obama "caused" the deficit, either. GO choke on the straw from your strawman, turdface.

He is working with what he was given.

Bullshit, liar. He is working ON making a serious problem MASSIVELY worse.

Your tired litany of lies are too thick to wade through at present. Fuck. It's really too bad that you are incapable of honesty. It would make things a bit easier if you could only introduce a little honesty into your dumbass spews.

 

[Truthmatters]

The fastest way to socialism is by vote and an impoverished nation who finds inself dependent upon government.

Regardless of who caused the mess we are in, I am sure it quite pleases the power-lust ambitions of our current administration, who is seeking government control, by putting the citizens of America into slavery.

Protect your private property rights, for without those, we are nothing more than chattel and Obama and Czars, our rulers. This man's policies are to further indebt us, not pull us out. Thus, the out of control spending. He is in a hurry. November looms.

Your fucking insane

 

[Liability]

The fastest way to socialism is by vote and an impoverished nation who finds inself dependent upon government.

Regardless of who caused the mess we are in, I am sure it quite pleases the power-lust ambitions of our current administration, who is seeking government control, by putting the citizens of America into slavery.

Protect your private property rights, for without those, we are nothing more than chattel and Obama and Czars, our rulers. This man's policies are to further indebt us, not pull us out. Thus, the out of control spending. He is in a hurry. November looms.

Your fucking insane

You're illiterate. You are also, for the most part, simply wrong. AA is much closer to the truth than an idiot like you could ever even begin to appreciate.

It's amazing that in THIS Republic so many morons, like you, are completely unable to grasp the relationship between property rights and individual liberties.

 

[rdean]

Why even bother?

You post to bullshit that says tax cuts "cost" 2.5 trillion dollars as though that even makes any sense. It doesn't. A government not taking in OUR fucking money doesn't COST the government anything. Expenditures cost money.

When the CBO projects the ACTUAL costs of the Obama plans, NOTING, as it did, that it is UNSUSTAINABLE, you liberal tools ignore that. You ignore links to it. You ignore analysis based on it. And you instead PRETEND that tax cuts COST money.

I tried it before and you libs tended to duck it: Let's do an experiment. Let's go back to 2009. Remember 2009? That was in the FIRST year of the Obama Administration. HERE is (in part) what the CBO said then: CNSNews.com - Obama?s Deficit Projections Off by $2.3 Trillion, Congressional Budget Office Says{Emphases mine}

You can see the original CBO March 2009 Analysis here: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10014/03-20-PresidentBudget.pdf

Now, let us jump ahead a little bit. This year! I KNOW you remember THIS year. Obama Spending Plan Underestimates Deficits, Budget Office Says - Bloomberg.com {Emphases mine.}

Maybe geniuses like you think Ryan is "wrong."

But everyone else recognizes the obvious. Ryan is absolutely right. It's not even a question. Last year even the President's OWN budget chief acknowledged as much. It is "UNSUSTAINABLE!" So,in response, based on Obamanomic planning, it is getting much WORSE!

90%. Are you freakin' libs OUT OF YOUR MINDS?

Let me point out that the title of this thread is:

"The only way to pay off this massive Republican caused deficit."

To suggest that Obama CAUSED the deficit is a plain lie. He is working with what he was given. If he started with the same "surplus" Bush and the Republicans had, it would be a totally different ball game.

Every link you've given only starts with Obama's administration and does nothing to examine the "root" of the problem. Why does anyone believe that the people who got us into this mess has any idea of how to get us out? It doesn't make a lick of sense.

I watched a news report last night that suggested our military was 20% of the budget and Medicare and Medicaid and money for emergency room treatment was 65% and everything else was the remaining 15%.

We are not going to solve this crisis on cutting the 20% military alone or the relatively small "everything else" at 15%. We have to tackle Medicare, Medicaid, emergency room visits and health care plus the other 20% and 15%.

New Data Say Uninsured Account for Nearly One-Fifth of Emergency Room Visits

1/5th of emergency room visits are by the uninsured. That's minimum a $1,000 per visit by 25 million people. That's 25 BILLION dollars right there. Since the number one cause of bankruptcy are medical bills, it's probably a pretty good bet most of these people will pay nothing.

Even the 12 billion the top four insurance companies made is only a drop in the bucket, in spite of them cutting 2.7 million Americans.

To reduce the deficit is going to take a combination of:

Cutting military spending, including bringing troops home from not just Iraq, but also, Germany, Japan, certain places in the Middle East among others.

Reducing health care costs so people end up with more money in the wallet and reduce the number of "medical bankruptcies".

Instigate programs for "good health" which will reduce the number of sick (payment cuts for weight loss, etc.)

Invest in America's decaying infrastructure. That will begin developing a sustainable tax base for further funding as well as free up money for consumers.

Invents in eduction and developing new energy technologies to get us off foreign oil.

And finally, the number one thing that will get out of out debt is to "grow the economy", which will not happen if these other things don't.

The Republican plan of "do nothing", for lack of better words, will, "do nothing".


Side bar:
I was watching Donald Trump talk on "Morning Joe", a man who is hardly "liberal" who said he just returned from China. He said the Chinese laugh at us. They think we are so stupid because they put up all kinds of tariffs and taxes to keep our goods out of their economy but we refuse to do the same thing because we believe in "free trade". They see us as the gift that just keeps giving. Their military is 8% of their GDP while ours is 20% and they are going to cut theirs to even less.

he didn't CAUSE the deficit. He is going to DOUBLE the deficit, you stupid fuck.

Eat shit and die fucktard.

I was speaking in your language that you didn't add anything to the discussion.

 

[rdean]

The fastest way to socialism is by vote and an impoverished nation who finds inself dependent upon government.

Regardless of who caused the mess we are in, I am sure it quite pleases the power-lust ambitions of our current administration, who is seeking government control, by putting the citizens of America into slavery.

Protect your private property rights, for without those, we are nothing more than chattel and Obama and Czars, our rulers. This man's policies are to further indebt us, not pull us out. Thus, the out of control spending. He is in a hurry. November looms.

Still not adding a single idea to the discussion. Not only didn't you add an idea, you babbled.

 

[rdean]

* * * *

Let me point out that the title of this thread is:

"The only way to pay off this massive Republican caused deficit."

You are an overly verbose but very dull-minded dickhead.

The REPUBLICANS DIDN'T "cause" the deficits, you lying mutt. Let me remind you, that you are nothing but a liar. The Republicans are PARTLY responsible for it, but he claim that THEY "caused" it is unsupportable because it is a filthy liberal lie.

To suggest that Obama CAUSED the deficit is a plain lie.

You truly are a fucking lying retard, asshole.

Nobody I know said that President Obama "caused" the deficit, either. GO choke on the straw from your strawman, turdface.

He is working with what he was given.

Bullshit, liar. He is working ON making a serious problem MASSIVELY worse.

Your tired litany of lies are too thick to wade through at present. Fuck. It's really too bad that you are incapable of honesty. It would make things a bit easier if you could only introduce a little honesty into your dumbass spews.

At least you kind of admitted the deficit was caused by Republicans. Why anyone would think that the people who did this to America are the answer is beyond me.

Oh, let me restate that in your language, "Listen shit for brains, get your fucking head out of your ass and quit sucking dick. It's the tarded Republicans who fucked up the country and those morons will only fuck it up worse given a second chance". Did I translate correctly? I've never been very well versed in "idiot moron".

 

[elvis]

Let me point out that the title of this thread is:

"The only way to pay off this massive Republican caused deficit."

To suggest that Obama CAUSED the deficit is a plain lie. He is working with what he was given. If he started with the same "surplus" Bush and the Republicans had, it would be a totally different ball game.

Every link you've given only starts with Obama's administration and does nothing to examine the "root" of the problem. Why does anyone believe that the people who got us into this mess has any idea of how to get us out? It doesn't make a lick of sense.

I watched a news report last night that suggested our military was 20% of the budget and Medicare and Medicaid and money for emergency room treatment was 65% and everything else was the remaining 15%.

We are not going to solve this crisis on cutting the 20% military alone or the relatively small "everything else" at 15%. We have to tackle Medicare, Medicaid, emergency room visits and health care plus the other 20% and 15%.

New Data Say Uninsured Account for Nearly One-Fifth of Emergency Room Visits

1/5th of emergency room visits are by the uninsured. That's minimum a $1,000 per visit by 25 million people. That's 25 BILLION dollars right there. Since the number one cause of bankruptcy are medical bills, it's probably a pretty good bet most of these people will pay nothing.

Even the 12 billion the top four insurance companies made is only a drop in the bucket, in spite of them cutting 2.7 million Americans.

To reduce the deficit is going to take a combination of:

Cutting military spending, including bringing troops home from not just Iraq, but also, Germany, Japan, certain places in the Middle East among others.

Reducing health care costs so people end up with more money in the wallet and reduce the number of "medical bankruptcies".

Instigate programs for "good health" which will reduce the number of sick (payment cuts for weight loss, etc.)

Invest in America's decaying infrastructure. That will begin developing a sustainable tax base for further funding as well as free up money for consumers.

Invents in eduction and developing new energy technologies to get us off foreign oil.

And finally, the number one thing that will get out of out debt is to "grow the economy", which will not happen if these other things don't.

The Republican plan of "do nothing", for lack of better words, will, "do nothing".


Side bar:
I was watching Donald Trump talk on "Morning Joe", a man who is hardly "liberal" who said he just returned from China. He said the Chinese laugh at us. They think we are so stupid because they put up all kinds of tariffs and taxes to keep our goods out of their economy but we refuse to do the same thing because we believe in "free trade". They see us as the gift that just keeps giving. Their military is 8% of their GDP while ours is 20% and they are going to cut theirs to even less.

he didn't CAUSE the deficit. He is going to DOUBLE the deficit, you stupid fuck.

Eat shit and die fucktard.

I was speaking in your language that you didn't add anything to the discussion.

Aw. is zona not there to work out your sexual frustration?

 

[rdean]

he didn't CAUSE the deficit. He is going to DOUBLE the deficit, you stupid fuck.

Eat shit and die fucktard.

I was speaking in your language that you didn't add anything to the discussion.

Aw. is zona not there to work out your sexual frustration?

I'm not frustrated at all. I have things well "in hand". I was just trying to speak your language. I have to admit, I'm not very good at it. Certainly not the "master debater" you are.

 

[Liability]

* * * *

Let me point out that the title of this thread is:

"The only way to pay off this massive Republican caused deficit."

You are an overly verbose but very dull-minded dickhead.

The REPUBLICANS DIDN'T "cause" the deficits, you lying mutt. Let me remind you, that you are nothing but a liar. The Republicans are PARTLY responsible for it, but he claim that THEY "caused" it is unsupportable because it is a filthy liberal lie.



You truly are a fucking lying retard, asshole.

Nobody I know said that President Obama "caused" the deficit, either. GO choke on the straw from your strawman, turdface.

He is working with what he was given.

Bullshit, liar. He is working ON making a serious problem MASSIVELY worse.

Your tired litany of lies are too thick to wade through at present. Fuck. It's really too bad that you are incapable of honesty. It would make things a bit easier if you could only introduce a little honesty into your dumbass spews.

At least you kind of admitted the deficit was caused by Republicans. Why anyone would think that the people who did this to America are the answer is beyond me.

Another rdork lie. I never "admitted' ("kind of," or otherwise) any such thing, liar, because one cannot "admit" an untruth, you idiot. That your dorky hero, President Obama, DID inherit a serious problem IN NO WAY suggests that it was a problem CAUSED by "Republicans." You really cannot stop lying, can you, ya lying putz?

What I CORRECTLY noted, instead, was that the GOP was partly responsible. And they were. But YOU, being the compulsive lib liar that you always are, are unable to admit that MORE of the problem was created by the fucking liberoidal Democratics. For although the prior President, George W. Bush, IS culpable in part (the first TARP bailout for example -- a huge unprincipled mistake), it was passed by a fucking liberoidal Democrat controlled Congress, lest you "forget."

We don't forget and I have no intention of letting you filthy lib liars slide on it.

Here's a very basic question of American government that even a tool such as you, rdork, should know. WHO controls the purse strings in American government? Is it (a) the Executive Branch or (B) the Legislative Branch?

There is, in the end, some shit which you dishonest liberoidal tools will not be able to lie your way out of.

 

[rdean]

You are an overly verbose but very dull-minded dickhead.

The REPUBLICANS DIDN'T "cause" the deficits, you lying mutt. Let me remind you, that you are nothing but a liar. The Republicans are PARTLY responsible for it, but he claim that THEY "caused" it is unsupportable because it is a filthy liberal lie.



You truly are a fucking lying retard, asshole.

Nobody I know said that President Obama "caused" the deficit, either. GO choke on the straw from your strawman, turdface.



Bullshit, liar. He is working ON making a serious problem MASSIVELY worse.

Your tired litany of lies are too thick to wade through at present. Fuck. It's really too bad that you are incapable of honesty. It would make things a bit easier if you could only introduce a little honesty into your dumbass spews.

At least you kind of admitted the deficit was caused by Republicans. Why anyone would think that the people who did this to America are the answer is beyond me.

Another rdork lie. I never "admitted' ("kind of," or otherwise) any such thing, liar, because one cannot "admit" an untruth, you idiot. That your dorky hero, President Obama, DID inherit a serious problem IN NO WAY suggests that it was a problem CAUSED by "Republicans." You really cannot stop lying, can you, ya lying putz?

What I CORRECTLY noted, instead, was that the GOP was partly responsible. And they were. But YOU, being the compulsive lib liar that you always are, are unable to admit that MORE of the problem was created by the fucking liberoidal Democratics. For although the prior President, George W. Bush, IS culpable in part (the first TARP bailout for example -- a huge unprincipled mistake), it was passed by a fucking liberoidal Democrat controlled Congress, lest you "forget."

We don't forget and I have no intention of letting you filthy lib liars slide on it.

Here's a very basic question of American government that even a tool such as you, rdork, should know. WHO controls the purse strings in American government? Is it (a) the Executive Branch or (B) the Legislative Branch?

There is, in the end, some shit which you dishonest liberoidal tools will not be able to lie your way out of.

I believe the ENORMOUS tax cut and the drug bill were both passed by the Republicans through "reconciliation". Not only that, Cheney had "break the tie" on one of them. One war was started by Bin Laden, the other by George Bush. When Republicans controlled all three branches, they did nothing on health care, infrastructure, education. Nothing.

I don't understand how Democrats "share the blame" on these issues.

I'm not arguing the last three years on some issues but it's way easier for Republicans to get some Democrats to support them because Democrats are black, white, Hispanic, Asian, conservative, liberal, young, old, rich, poor, etc. You can get at least some Democratic support because the Democrats are a true coalition. Republicans are almost completely of one race, one religion. They march in lockstep. That's not an insult. It's just the way it is. It's "reality".

 

[sparky]

In Defense of Deficits

The Simpson-Bowles Commission, just established by the president, will no doubt deliver an attack on Social Security and Medicare dressed up in the sanctimonious rhetoric of deficit reduction. (Back in his salad days, former Senator Alan Simpson was a regular schemer to cut Social Security.) The Obama spending freeze is another symbolic sacrifice to the deficit gods. Most observers believe neither will amount to much, and one can hope that they are right. But what would be the economic consequences if they did? The answer is that a big deficit-reduction program would destroy the economy, or what remains of it, two years into the Great Crisis.


For this reason, the deficit phobia of Wall Street, the press, some economists and practically all politicians is one of the deepest dangers that we face. It's not just the old and the sick who are threatened; we all are. To cut current deficits without first rebuilding the economic engine of the private credit system is a sure path to stagnation, to a double-dip recession--even to a second Great Depression. To focus obsessively on cutting future deficits is also a path that will obstruct, not assist, what we need to do to re-establish strong growth and high employment.

To put things crudely, there are two ways to get the increase in total spending that we call "economic growth." One way is for government to spend. The other is for banks to lend. Leaving aside short-term adjustments like increased net exports or financial innovation, that's basically all there is. Governments and banks are the two entities with the power to create something from nothing. If total spending power is to grow, one or the other of these two great financial motors--public deficits or private loans--has to be in action

In Defense of Deficits

~S~

 

[rdean]

In Defense of Deficits

The Simpson-Bowles Commission, just established by the president, will no doubt deliver an attack on Social Security and Medicare dressed up in the sanctimonious rhetoric of deficit reduction. (Back in his salad days, former Senator Alan Simpson was a regular schemer to cut Social Security.) The Obama spending freeze is another symbolic sacrifice to the deficit gods. Most observers believe neither will amount to much, and one can hope that they are right. But what would be the economic consequences if they did? The answer is that a big deficit-reduction program would destroy the economy, or what remains of it, two years into the Great Crisis.


For this reason, the deficit phobia of Wall Street, the press, some economists and practically all politicians is one of the deepest dangers that we face. It's not just the old and the sick who are threatened; we all are. To cut current deficits without first rebuilding the economic engine of the private credit system is a sure path to stagnation, to a double-dip recession--even to a second Great Depression. To focus obsessively on cutting future deficits is also a path that will obstruct, not assist, what we need to do to re-establish strong growth and high employment.

To put things crudely, there are two ways to get the increase in total spending that we call "economic growth." One way is for government to spend. The other is for banks to lend. Leaving aside short-term adjustments like increased net exports or financial innovation, that's basically all there is. Governments and banks are the two entities with the power to create something from nothing. If total spending power is to grow, one or the other of these two great financial motors--public deficits or private loans--has to be in action

In Defense of Deficits

~S~

So you are saying that the bottom line is the economy has to "grow".

 

[Neubarth]

You are an overly verbose but very dull-minded dickhead.

The REPUBLICANS DIDN'T "cause" the deficits, you lying mutt. Let me remind you, that you are nothing but a liar. The Republicans are PARTLY responsible for it, but he claim that THEY "caused" it is unsupportable because it is a filthy liberal lie.



You truly are a fucking lying retard, asshole.

Nobody I know said that President Obama "caused" the deficit, either. GO choke on the straw from your strawman, turdface.



Bullshit, liar. He is working ON making a serious problem MASSIVELY worse.

Your tired litany of lies are too thick to wade through at present. Fuck. It's really too bad that you are incapable of honesty. It would make things a bit easier if you could only introduce a little honesty into your dumbass spews.

At least you kind of admitted the deficit was caused by Republicans. Why anyone would think that the people who did this to America are the answer is beyond me.

Another rdork lie. I never "admitted' ("kind of," or otherwise) any such thing, liar, because one cannot "admit" an untruth, you idiot. That your dorky hero, President Obama, DID inherit a serious problem IN NO WAY suggests that it was a problem CAUSED by "Republicans." You really cannot stop lying, can you, ya lying putz?

What I CORRECTLY noted, instead, was that the GOP was partly responsible. And they were. But YOU, being the compulsive lib liar that you always are, are unable to admit that MORE of the problem was created by the fucking liberoidal Democratics. For although the prior President, George W. Bush, IS culpable in part (the first TARP bailout for example -- a huge unprincipled mistake), it was passed by a fucking liberoidal Democrat controlled Congress, lest you "forget."

We don't forget and I have no intention of letting you filthy lib liars slide on it.

Here's a very basic question of American government that even a tool such as you, rdork, should know. WHO controls the purse strings in American government? Is it (a) the Executive Branch or (B) the Legislative Branch?

There is, in the end, some shit which you dishonest liberoidal tools will not be able to lie your way out of.

Man, you are both a pathological liar and a crazy shithead. Get psychiatric help. You lie about everything that you post. That shows that you are totally whacko.

Most people know me as a strong moralist, and I know the truth about the tremendous deficit that Obama inherited. It is almost all Republican caused. Their constant penchant for creating wars so that their companies can profit off of war contracts. Damn them to hell!

I personally favor trying all of the Republican leadership in Congress for Treason against the American people and then shooting them by firing squads. Every last one of them! They are not conservatives. They are just money grubbers and it is they who brought about this horrific Depression.

Get rid of them all. They are that evil and disgusting. Just nothing but money grubbing sons of bitches and dollar whores. We need a civil war in this country to kill all of that scum off so we can start with truly moral leadership in Congress. Anybody who was ever a registered Republican will be denied elective office if they have not been shot.

 

[Liability]

At least you kind of admitted the deficit was caused by Republicans. Why anyone would think that the people who did this to America are the answer is beyond me.

Another rdork lie. I never "admitted' ("kind of," or otherwise) any such thing, liar, because one cannot "admit" an untruth, you idiot. That your dorky hero, President Obama, DID inherit a serious problem IN NO WAY suggests that it was a problem CAUSED by "Republicans." You really cannot stop lying, can you, ya lying putz?

What I CORRECTLY noted, instead, was that the GOP was partly responsible. And they were. But YOU, being the compulsive lib liar that you always are, are unable to admit that MORE of the problem was created by the fucking liberoidal Democratics. For although the prior President, George W. Bush, IS culpable in part (the first TARP bailout for example -- a huge unprincipled mistake), it was passed by a fucking liberoidal Democrat controlled Congress, lest you "forget."

We don't forget and I have no intention of letting you filthy lib liars slide on it.

Here's a very basic question of American government that even a tool such as you, rdork, should know. WHO controls the purse strings in American government? Is it (a) the Executive Branch or (B) the Legislative Branch?

There is, in the end, some shit which you dishonest liberoidal tools will not be able to lie your way out of.

Man, you are both a pathological liar and a crazy shithead. Get psychiatric help. You lie about everything that you post. That shows that you are totally whacko.

Most people know me as a strong moralist, and I know the truth about the tremendous deficit that Obama inherited. It is almost all Republican caused. Their constant penchant for creating wars so that their companies can profit off of war contracts. Damn them to hell!

I personally favor trying all of the Republican leadership in Congress for Treason against the American people and then shooting them by firing squads. Every last one of them! They are not conservatives. They are just money grubbers and it is they who brought about this horrific Depression.

Get rid of them all. They are that evil and disgusting. Just nothing but money grubbing sons of bitches and dollar whores. We need a civil war in this country to kill all of that scum off so we can start with truly moral leadership in Congress. Anybody who was ever a registered Republican will be denied elective office if they have not been shot.

You are simply a flat out liar. So, when an immoral (or amoral) lying sack of shit such as you accuses me of being a liar at all, it is somewhat ironic, completely meaningless and oddly amusing.

If you'd take your amoral head out of your immoral ass for a second, you lying assbite, you MIGHT be able to (a) breathe and (b) pick up on the FACT that I have had zero problem assigning appropriate blame to the GOP.* What I have denied (since I like to deny lies, you imbecile lying fucktard) is that the deficit was "caused" by the Republicans.

That was a lie. It is a lie. And when you (as predicted) again repeat it, like the scumbag lying sack of foul diseased shit you are, it will continue to be a lie.

And SINCE the GOP is no longer in charge of the Executive Branch OR the Legislative Branch, the magnification of the debt problem is entirely laid at the feet of you idiot lying scumbag liberoidal Democratics.

Nobody cares what a lying shithead such as you personally favors, by the way. You are just a liar, after all. And thus, your opinions aren't worth diddly fucking dog.

____________
Lying fucktard scumbags like you, by contrast, cannot admit the culpability of the filthy liberal Democratics for the massive and hugely increasing debt problem. You filthy fuckers are content to point your greasy little fingers at President Bush. But you refuse to acknowledge that when he was doing his worst at running up the debt, it was a liberal Democrat controlled Congress. That's right, fuckface. You can evade the truth all you want. But I will be more than happy to keep shoving your nose in that unavoidable truth. And the more you whine, lie and cry about it, the more I'll just happily go on shoving your face directly into the truth. It burns you, doesn't it?

 

[Neubarth]

Another rdork lie. I never "admitted' ("kind of," or otherwise) any such thing, liar, because one cannot "admit" an untruth, you idiot. That your dorky hero, President Obama, DID inherit a serious problem IN NO WAY suggests that it was a problem CAUSED by "Republicans." You really cannot stop lying, can you, ya lying putz?

What I CORRECTLY noted, instead, was that the GOP was partly responsible. And they were. But YOU, being the compulsive lib liar that you always are, are unable to admit that MORE of the problem was created by the fucking liberoidal Democratics. For although the prior President, George W. Bush, IS culpable in part (the first TARP bailout for example -- a huge unprincipled mistake), it was passed by a fucking liberoidal Democrat controlled Congress, lest you "forget."

We don't forget and I have no intention of letting you filthy lib liars slide on it.

Here's a very basic question of American government that even a tool such as you, rdork, should know. WHO controls the purse strings in American government? Is it (a) the Executive Branch or (B) the Legislative Branch?

There is, in the end, some shit which you dishonest liberoidal tools will not be able to lie your way out of.

Man, you are both a pathological liar and a crazy shithead. Get psychiatric help. You lie about everything that you post. That shows that you are totally whacko.

Most people know me as a strong moralist, and I know the truth about the tremendous deficit that Obama inherited. It is almost all Republican caused. Their constant penchant for creating wars so that their companies can profit off of war contracts. Damn them to hell!

I personally favor trying all of the Republican leadership in Congress for Treason against the American people and then shooting them by firing squads. Every last one of them! They are not conservatives. They are just money grubbers and it is they who brought about this horrific Depression.

Get rid of them all. They are that evil and disgusting. Just nothing but money grubbing sons of bitches and dollar whores. We need a civil war in this country to kill all of that scum off so we can start with truly moral leadership in Congress. Anybody who was ever a registered Republican will be denied elective office if they have not been shot.

You are simply a flat out liar. So, when an immoral (or amoral) lying sack of shit such as you accuses me of being a liar at all, it is somewhat ironic, completely meaningless and oddly amusing.

If you'd take your amoral head out of your immoral ass for a second, you lying assbite, you MIGHT be able to (a) breathe and (b) pick up on the FACT that I have had zero problem assigning appropriate blame to the GOP.* What I have denied (since I like to deny lies, you imbecile lying fucktard) is that the deficit was "caused" by the Republicans.

That was a lie. It is a lie. And when you (as predicted) again repeat it, like the scumbag lying sack of foul diseased shit you are, it will continue to be a lie.

And SINCE the GOP is no longer in charge of the Executive Branch OR the Legislative Branch, the magnification of the debt problem is entirely laid at the feet of you idiot lying scumbag liberoidal Democratics.

Nobody cares what a lying shithead such as you personally favors, by the way. You are just a liar, after all. And thus, your opinions aren't worth diddly fucking dog.

____________
Lying fucktard scumbags like you, by contrast, cannot admit the culpability of the filthy liberal Democratics for the massive and hugely increasing debt problem. You filthy fuckers are content to point your greasy little fingers at President Bush. But you refuse to acknowledge that when he was doing his worst at running up the debt, it was a liberal Democrat controlled Congress. That's right, fuckface. You can evade the truth all you want. But I will be more than happy to keep shoving your nose in that unavoidable truth. And the more you whine, lie and cry about it, the more I'll just happily go on shoving your face directly into the truth. It burns you, doesn't it?

Hey, "what a dork" you are the most ignorant buffoon in the history of the world. Read some history once in a while. All of the corruption in this country has been Republican. Everybody knows it.

Yet, All you do on this board is lie and lie and lie because you have a crazy criminal mind. Not only are you crazy, buy you are a queer geek in search of a male dog to sleep with. Almost all of this deficit falls directly on the shoulders of Bush II the most disgusting slimebag president in history. That son of a bitch needs to be exiled to hell, because any place else would be too good for him and his criminal kind. All Corrupt Republicans are crooks who need to be tried for treason against this great country and once convicted, disposed of in the same fashion as Bush.

Remember, the Civil War is coming. They are going to get you, you shit sucking dog, you.

Ok now that I have dealt with you in the fashion that only you can understand you pervert, I'll go back to treating all of the other conservatives on this board as my brothers. Everybody except you because you are so messed up in the head, you flatulent and purulent scab infected pigs anus