The only rogue state with nukes I see in the Mid-East is Israel.

[Shusha]

Disputed territory?

The West Bank is majority Palestinian Arab.

How is that disputed?

Its disputed because there is no final agreement about which territory belongs to which peoples and which sovereign nation (not to mention the fact that there is only one sovereign at the moment). There is no treaty delineating what is Palestine and what is Israel. Until that happens the territory between the not disputed parts is .... well, disputed.

I agree that it would be best to eventually make an agreement based on majority populations. I also believe that neither State should be ethnically cleansed of the other peoples.

 

[Shusha]

Jews are stealing West Bank majority Palestinian land, every-time they build Jewish settlements there.

Are Arabs stealing Israeli land every time they build an Arab house or an Arab neighborhood? Frankly, you are arguing that Palestine must be a Jew-free zone. Why is that?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The Palestinians live in a majority of the West Bank, and Jews keep encroaching on this land, stealing it.

Why don't Palestinians have rights?

The Arab Palestinians do have rights. There is no dispute that Arab Palestinians have rights over Areas A, B and Gaza. The dispute is over Area C. Both Arab Palestinians and Jewish Israelis live in Area C. Its disputed territory. It is NOT "Palestinian territory". It is territory over which there is no final agreement.

So, why do Jews bulldoze Palestinian settlements, and continue to build Jewish settlements in the West Bank?

Disputed territory?

The West Bank is majority Palestinian Arab.

How is that disputed?

You Zionists are criminal minded thieves, plain, and simple.

So, why do Jews bulldoze Palestinian settlements, and continue to build Jewish settlements in the West Bank?

Why do Poles build on stolen German land?

The Polish government in Exile the elected Polish government was against encroaching into German territory.

These decisions were made without Poland's control, and by the Communist, and Anglo-Saxon elites.

Poland actually lost land too out of the deal, like Polish majority cities in the East like Lwow, Brzesc, and Wilno.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Disputed territory?

The West Bank is majority Palestinian Arab.

How is that disputed?

Its disputed because there is no final agreement about which territory belongs to which peoples and which sovereign nation (not to mention the fact that there is only one sovereign at the moment). There is no treaty delineating what is Palestine and what is Israel. Until that happens the territory between the not disputed parts is .... well, disputed.

I agree that it would be best to eventually make an agreement based on majority populations. I also believe that neither State should be ethnically cleansed of the other peoples.

So, why are Jews stealing Palestinian land?

Typical Jewish self sense of entitlement?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Jews are stealing West Bank majority Palestinian land, every-time they build Jewish settlements there.

Are Arabs stealing Israeli land every time they build an Arab house or an Arab neighborhood? Frankly, you are arguing that Palestine must be a Jew-free zone. Why is that?

I think all Jews, and Arabs who trace their roots back to the 19th century should stay, and the others should leave as "Colonist scums" how about that?

 

[Shusha]

So, why are Jews stealing Palestinian land?

Jews are not stealing Palestinian land. Jews and Arabs are both living on land where there is no border between Israel and the wanna-be State of Palestine. Until there is a determination (read: treaty) which delineates this border -- there is no way of knowing which land is "Palestinian land".

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

So, why are Jews stealing Palestinian land?

Jews are not stealing Palestinian land. Jews and Arabs are both living on land where there is no border between Israel and the wanna-be State of Palestine. Until there is a determination (read: treaty) which delineates this border -- there is no way of knowing which land is "Palestinian land".

Jews encroaching on Palestinian majority land, is outrageous.

Jews say Palestinians don't want peace.

How is this the actions of peace?

 

[BS Filter]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

No such thing as a Palestinian people. They're no more "Palestinians" than Arafat was. The best hope for that region is to live under the flag of Israel, all the people. Then there will be peace, but peace isn't what the muslims want, and we all know it. Sad.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

No such thing as a Palestinian people. They're no more "Palestinians" than Arafat was. The best hope for that region is to live under the flag of Israel, all the people. Then there will be peace, but peace isn't what the muslims want, and we all know it. Sad.

Israel clearly expelled Arab Palestinians in the Nakba, including massacres like Deir Yassin.

Zionists are clearly either very dumb, or very manipulative to pretend that Jews didn't displace Arab Palestinians.

Either way to anyone with a conscience Zionists look like criminal minded brutes.

How is Israel the peaceful?
Israel in the 2014 conflict lost just 6 civilians, and killed 1,000's of Palestinian civilians, including 500 Palestinian children killed by violent Israel.

 

[MJB12741]

You're an anti semite and your rhetoric has become old and tiresome. You're also clueless about history, it makes you look ridiculous

I think Jewish crimes, lies, and manipulations have become tiresome.

Clueless about history?
That would be Zionists. LOL

Yeah like your BS Israel "stole" the Golan Heights....spoils of war you freaking loon.

You're clueless and it shows

So, because of a military attack, it's okay to ethnic cleanse civilians out of a region stealing their land?

OUTSTANDING POINT! And who said Dupa is a Jew hating imbecile? What about Israel's "ethnic cleansing" of the Palestinians? In 1948 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians residing in Israel. And today there are only just over 6 million of them left. Shame on you Zionists for letting this happen.

Population Statistics - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

The Nakba was clear ethnic cleansing by definition, and all possible understandings of the meaning of the word.

Well I'll be darned. And here I actually believed the Arab countries caused it, especially their native homeland of Jordan telling the Palestinians to leave so the combined Arab countries could annihilate Israel whereby they could then return to their stolen land where they never had any titles or feeds whatsoever. Do you think maybe the Arab countries hate Palestinians? Well, shall we look at the history of Arab country treatment of Palestinians? What say you Dupa?

 

[BS Filter]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

No such thing as a Palestinian people. They're no more "Palestinians" than Arafat was. The best hope for that region is to live under the flag of Israel, all the people. Then there will be peace, but peace isn't what the muslims want, and we all know it. Sad.

Israel clearly expelled Arab Palestinians in the Nakba, including massacres like Deir Yassin.

Zionists are clearly either very dumb, or very manipulative to pretend that Jews didn't displace Arab Palestinians.

Either way to anyone with a conscience Zionists look like criminal minded brutes.

How is Israel the peaceful?
Israel in the 2014 conflict lost just 6 civilians, and killed 1,000's of Palestinian civilians, including 500 Palestinian children killed by violent Israel.

Then perhaps it would be a good idea to leave Israel alone if you don't like getting your ass kicked.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

No such thing as a Palestinian people. They're no more "Palestinians" than Arafat was. The best hope for that region is to live under the flag of Israel, all the people. Then there will be peace, but peace isn't what the muslims want, and we all know it. Sad.

Israel clearly expelled Arab Palestinians in the Nakba, including massacres like Deir Yassin.

Zionists are clearly either very dumb, or very manipulative to pretend that Jews didn't displace Arab Palestinians.

Either way to anyone with a conscience Zionists look like criminal minded brutes.

How is Israel the peaceful?
Israel in the 2014 conflict lost just 6 civilians, and killed 1,000's of Palestinian civilians, including 500 Palestinian children killed by violent Israel.

Then perhaps it would be a good idea to leave Israel alone if you don't like getting your ass kicked.

Would you leave Jews alone if they built a Jewish homeland, that sent your family fleeing, and they stole your house?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Israel is clearly outrageous.

 

[hjmick]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

You believe that the only weapons of mass destruction are nuclear?


Okay, yeah, we're gonna get a little place and we're gonna... have... we're gonna have a cow, and some pigs, and we're gonna have, maybe, maybe, a chicken. Down in the flat, we'll have a little field of... alfalfa for the rabbits. And you get to tend the rabbits...

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I think Jewish crimes, lies, and manipulations have become tiresome.

Clueless about history?
That would be Zionists. LOL

Yeah like your BS Israel "stole" the Golan Heights....spoils of war you freaking loon.

You're clueless and it shows

So, because of a military attack, it's okay to ethnic cleanse civilians out of a region stealing their land?

OUTSTANDING POINT! And who said Dupa is a Jew hating imbecile? What about Israel's "ethnic cleansing" of the Palestinians? In 1948 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians residing in Israel. And today there are only just over 6 million of them left. Shame on you Zionists for letting this happen.

Population Statistics - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

The Nakba was clear ethnic cleansing by definition, and all possible understandings of the meaning of the word.

Well I'll be darned. And here I actually believed the Arab countries caused it, especially their native homeland of Jordan telling the Palestinians to leave so the combined Arab countries could annihilate Israel whereby they could then return to their stolen land where they never had any titles or feeds whatsoever. Do you think maybe the Arab countries hate Palestinians? Well, shall we look at the history of Arab country treatment of Palestinians? What say you Dupa?

Zionists are such liars.

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia

The 1948 Palestinian exodus, also known as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة‎, al-Nakbah, literally "disaster", "catastrophe", or "cataclysm"),[1] occurred when more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1948 Palestine war.[2] Between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were sacked during the war, while urban Palestine was almost entirely extinguished.[3] The term "nakba" also refers to the period of war itself and events affecting Palestinians from December 1947 to January 1949.

The precise number of refugees, many of whom settled in refugee camps in neighboring states, is a matter of dispute[4] but around 80 percent of the Arab inhabitants of what became Israel (50 percent of the Arab total of Mandatory Palestine) left or were expelled from their homes.[5][6] Approximately 250,000-300,000 Palestinians had fled or been expelled prior to the Israeli Declaration of Independence in May 1948; a fact which was named as a casus belli for the entry of the Arab League into the country, sparking the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

The causes are also a subject of fundamental disagreement between historians. Factors involved in the exodus include Jewish military advances, destruction of Arab villages, psychological warfare, and fears of another massacre by Zionist militias after the Deir Yassin massacre,[7]:239–240 which caused many to leave out of panic; direct expulsion orders by Israeli authorities; the voluntary self-removal of the wealthier classes;[8] collapse in Palestinian leadership and Arab evacuation orders.[9][10] and an unwillingness to live under Jewish control.[11][dubious – discuss][12]

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

No such thing as a Palestinian people. They're no more "Palestinians" than Arafat was. The best hope for that region is to live under the flag of Israel, all the people. Then there will be peace, but peace isn't what the muslims want, and we all know it. Sad.

Israel clearly expelled Arab Palestinians in the Nakba, including massacres like Deir Yassin.

Zionists are clearly either very dumb, or very manipulative to pretend that Jews didn't displace Arab Palestinians.

Either way to anyone with a conscience Zionists look like criminal minded brutes.

How is Israel the peaceful?
Israel in the 2014 conflict lost just 6 civilians, and killed 1,000's of Palestinian civilians, including 500 Palestinian children killed by violent Israel.

Then perhaps it would be a good idea to leave Israel alone if you don't like getting your ass kicked.

Would you leave Jews alone if they built a Jewish homeland, that sent your family fleeing, and they stole your house?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Israel is clearly outrageous.

Israel is a duly formed country; nobody stole anything.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

No such thing as a Palestinian people. They're no more "Palestinians" than Arafat was. The best hope for that region is to live under the flag of Israel, all the people. Then there will be peace, but peace isn't what the muslims want, and we all know it. Sad.

Israel clearly expelled Arab Palestinians in the Nakba, including massacres like Deir Yassin.

Zionists are clearly either very dumb, or very manipulative to pretend that Jews didn't displace Arab Palestinians.

Either way to anyone with a conscience Zionists look like criminal minded brutes.

How is Israel the peaceful?
Israel in the 2014 conflict lost just 6 civilians, and killed 1,000's of Palestinian civilians, including 500 Palestinian children killed by violent Israel.

Then perhaps it would be a good idea to leave Israel alone if you don't like getting your ass kicked.

Would you leave Jews alone if they built a Jewish homeland, that sent your family fleeing, and they stole your house?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Israel is clearly outrageous.

Israel is a duly formed country; nobody stole anything.

Jews only owned 6 - 7% of the land in 1945.

In 1918 the population was only 8.1% Jewish.

Jews stole Israel, how could it not be more clear?

 

[toobfreak]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

You and one of your TROLL threads again?

We went to Iraq because that's where all the Iraqi chemical weapons were hiding. And we found them. And both Republican, Democrats and countries the world over all agreed to go there. Whatever Israel has, they mind their own business with it and don't bother anyone unless they come looking for a fight. They could wipe out Palestine tomorrow if they wanted to------ I'd be nice to them. If only we could say as much about the Iranians, Taliban, ISIS and Palestinian / Hamas. As to the rest of your whining, take it to Yasser Arafat.

 

[BS Filter]

Why did we go to war with Iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction?

Really it's only Israel with nukes in the Mid-East.

But, I guess it's untouchable, that Israel has displaced Palestinians to the curb, and builds settlements out into the West Bank.

Israel might not warrant war, but it warrants sanctions in my eyes.

No such thing as a Palestinian people. They're no more "Palestinians" than Arafat was. The best hope for that region is to live under the flag of Israel, all the people. Then there will be peace, but peace isn't what the muslims want, and we all know it. Sad.

Israel clearly expelled Arab Palestinians in the Nakba, including massacres like Deir Yassin.

Zionists are clearly either very dumb, or very manipulative to pretend that Jews didn't displace Arab Palestinians.

Either way to anyone with a conscience Zionists look like criminal minded brutes.

How is Israel the peaceful?
Israel in the 2014 conflict lost just 6 civilians, and killed 1,000's of Palestinian civilians, including 500 Palestinian children killed by violent Israel.

Then perhaps it would be a good idea to leave Israel alone if you don't like getting your ass kicked.

Would you leave Jews alone if they built a Jewish homeland, that sent your family fleeing, and they stole your house?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Israel is clearly outrageous.

Go live in Jordon, that's your home anyway.

 

[flacaltenn]

And yet, as threatened as they are, dodging rocket after rocket, faced with being wiped off the face of the earth, they have never used their weapon. Amazing restraint, Israel. Good on you.

As we speak it's Palestine which has no formal nation, and it's Palestine which is being encroached on by Israeli Jewish settlements,

Who is the LEADERSHIP of Palestine? Every time they form a useful govt it ends in them fighting each other in the streets for control.. You can not "give" a nation to street demonstrators and for over 1000 years, Palis have NEVER valued nationalism or central govt.

Tell me WHO represents them? What have they done to organize a LEGITIMATE leadership for peace/negotiation? You really don't understand history. Ancient or recent..

 

[BS Filter]

No such thing as a Palestinian people. They're no more "Palestinians" than Arafat was. The best hope for that region is to live under the flag of Israel, all the people. Then there will be peace, but peace isn't what the muslims want, and we all know it. Sad.

Israel clearly expelled Arab Palestinians in the Nakba, including massacres like Deir Yassin.

Zionists are clearly either very dumb, or very manipulative to pretend that Jews didn't displace Arab Palestinians.

Either way to anyone with a conscience Zionists look like criminal minded brutes.

How is Israel the peaceful?
Israel in the 2014 conflict lost just 6 civilians, and killed 1,000's of Palestinian civilians, including 500 Palestinian children killed by violent Israel.

Then perhaps it would be a good idea to leave Israel alone if you don't like getting your ass kicked.

Would you leave Jews alone if they built a Jewish homeland, that sent your family fleeing, and they stole your house?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Israel is clearly outrageous.

Israel is a duly formed country; nobody stole anything.

Jews only owned 6 - 7% of the land in 1945.

In 1918 the population was only 8.1% Jewish.

Jews stole Israel, how could it not be more clear?

You can't steal what's yours. God gave that land to Israel.