The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[Truthseeker420]

CNN Walks It Back: Oops, Zimmerman Didn't Say 'Coon,' He Said It Was 'Cold'!

Read more: CNN Walks It Back: Oops, Zimmerman Didn't Say 'Coon,' He Said It Was 'Cold'! | NewsBusters

Whoops, well this is awkward!

Perhaps zimmerman sneaked in there and edited that tape for nefarious purposes, too...

CNN’s Martin Savidge told Brooke Baldwin that audio forensics expert Tom Owen determined George Zimmerman said punks on the 9-1-1 call he made the night he shot Trayvon Martin, not a racial slur as has been previously reported.

I said have you asked George Zimmerman about that. They said, yes, they did, George told them the words he used were f-ng punks

CNN: Expert Reports George Zimmerman Said ?Punks?, Not Racial Slur | Mediaite

How awkward for CNN and Zimmerman.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Zimmerman is becoming quite the liar if you believe his lawyers.

 

[Yurt]

Zimmerman killed an unarmed teenager using a gun. It matters not what he said on some tape, the facts are pretty clear. He reported an incident to the authorities, he was told not to follow the victim. Somehow he and the victim got into it, and he shot and killed the victim.

Murder in the Second Degree is the killing of a person by intent (he carried a gun, he was not hunting for game nor target shooting), but witout premediatation or deliberation or express malice.

He brought this on himself and if convicted should, IMO, suffer the consequences of prison without any mitigation.

first off, killing an unarmed person is not always against the law. secondly, what he said on tape does matter, because if he said fucking coons, zimmerman loses a lot of credibility and it could show he had motive.

secondly, second degree does not always mean you killed a person with intent.

thirdly, you don't know if he brought this on himself. you're speculating and have convicted him before all the facts are known. you are one of the reasons we have a jury system in this country. because assholes like you convict without knowing facts.

 

[Yurt]

Zimmerman is becoming quite the liar if you believe his lawyers.

about the money...it does appear zimmerman has been a liar. that will hurt him court. as it should.

 

[Stephanie]

He never said fucking coons, he said fucking cold. This was debunked a year ago.

It's amazing how you people with "Truth" in your handle are always the biggest fucking liars on the forum.

lol...no kidding, this was so thoroughly debunked the OP poster should be ashamed for repeating it

It was never debunked.

So what if he did say coon? my gawd, petty

 

[Truthseeker420]

Zimmerman is becoming quite the liar if you believe his lawyers.

about the money...it does appear zimmerman has been a liar. that will hurt him court. as it should.

He said (according to his lawyers) that his words were "fucking punks".

 

[dilloduck]

I confess--I snuck in there and edited out "old coots". I'm sick of us old people being taken advantage of like that.

 

[Truthseeker420]

lol...no kidding, this was so thoroughly debunked the OP poster should be ashamed for repeating it

It was never debunked.

So what if he did say coon? my gawd, petty

not petty at all, shows his mindset and fits in with the context.

 

[Truthseeker420]

are you kidding?

No

lmao

you just posted yes and then edited your post before i could respond

you fail

You sure ?

 

[Stephanie]

It was never debunked.

So what if he did say coon? my gawd, petty

not petty at all, shows his mindset and fits in with the context.

this case wouldn't even still be in the news if Obama and media didn't try to capitalize off it..

It's a LOCAL matter

 

[Wry Catcher]

Zimmerman killed an unarmed teenager using a gun. It matters not what he said on some tape, the facts are pretty clear. He reported an incident to the authorities, he was told not to follow the victim. Somehow he and the victim got into it, and he shot and killed the victim.

Murder in the Second Degree is the killing of a person by intent (he carried a gun, he was not hunting for game nor target shooting), but witout premediatation or deliberation or express malice.

He brought this on himself and if convicted should, IMO, suffer the consequences of prison without any mitigation.

first off, killing an unarmed person is not always against the law. secondly, what he said on tape does matter, because if he said fucking coons, zimmerman loses a lot of credibility and it could show he had motive.

secondly, second degree does not always mean you killed a person with intent. I suggest you look this up. ***

thirdly, you don't know if he brought this on himself. you're speculating and have convicted him before all the facts are known. you are one of the reasons we have a jury system in this country. because assholes like you convict without knowing facts.

I did not convict him; read my last sentence slowly.

There are no facts in evidence, yet. We do know from Zimmerman's statements what he said transpired on the day in question. We do know that he was told to stand down by local authorities. We know he was armed and the victim was not.

And I know that you're a racist, dumb and an asshole; probative evidence exists in many of your posts.

*** Second Degree Murder Overview - FindLaw

 

[theHawk]

Zimmerman killed an unarmed teenager using a gun. It matters not what he said on some tape, the facts are pretty clear. He reported an incident to the authorities, he was told not to follow the victim. Somehow he and the victim got into it, and he shot and killed the victim.

Murder in the Second Degree is the killing of a person by intent (he carried a gun, he was not hunting for game nor target shooting), but witout premediatation or deliberation or express malice.

He brought this on himself and if convicted should, IMO, suffer the consequences of prison without any mitigation.

Yes the facts are pretty clear. The teenager jumped him from behind and started bashing his head in.

Nice of you to ignore those facts, since they make it perfectly clear he acted in self defense.

 

[testarosa]

When JoJo is sentenced, there's always Zimmerman to discuss.

 

[testarosa]

Trial starts June 10th, hearing on the 5th, 6th and 7th of June. 53 separate media entities are feverishly installing satellites, microwave and wireless dishes.

Should be a full-out circus.

 

[25Caliber]

The George Zimmerman trial is coming up quick. The trial is set to begin on 10 June, 2013.

FROM THE AP:
SANFORD, Fla. — A new judge will hear how close lawyers are to being ready for trial in the murder case of a Florida neighborhood watch volunteer accused of shooting an unarmed teenager.

George Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder, is not expected to be in court Wednesday for the procedural hearing.

Judge Debra S. Nelson was appointed to the case in late August after an appeals' court found that the former judge made disparaging remarks about Zimmerman's character and advocated for additional charges against him during a bond hearing.

The 29-year-old is charged with shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in February. Zimmerman has claimed self-defense and is pleading not guilty.


From: Richard E. Hornsby, PA--

Penalties for Second Degree Murder

The crime of Second Degree Murder is classified as a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 10 offense severity ranking under Florida's Criminal Punishment Code.

If convicted of Second Degree Murder, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 16¾ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:

Up to Life in prison.
Up to Life on probation.
Up to $10,000 in fines.
10/20/Life

Under Florida's 10-20-Life law, a person who uses a Firearm to commit Second Degree Murder must be sentenced to a minimum-mandatory prison sentence of 25 years. [1]

Defenses to Second Degree Murder

In addition to the pretrial defenses and trial defenses that can be raised in any criminal case, specific defenses to the crime of Second Degree Murder are:

Excusable Homicide

The killing of a human being is excusable, and therefore lawful, under any one of the following three circumstances:

When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent, or
When the killing occurs by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or
When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.
Justifiable Homicide

The killing of a human being is justifiable homicide and lawful if done while resisting an attempt by someone to kill you or to commit a felony against you.

Self Defense

Also known as the justified use of deadly force, self defense is a defense to the crime of Second Degree Murder. Please view the Florida Self Defense section for more information.

 

[testarosa]

Link to filed motions is here:

State v. Zimmerman (2012-CF001083-A) - .

 

[Snookie]

Florida? Oh hell yes, I do love a circus.

Bring on the donkeys.

 

[SantaFeWay]

Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For me, someone who doesn't have background on this case, this wikipedia article was very informative and a good overview of the case. Just wanted to pass it along.

Also, yesterday there was a motion filed for a 6 week continuance. Don't know if it was granted but that would put jury selection happening near the end of July rather than on June 10, 2013.

 

[longknife]

Zimmerman Defense Wants Pictures of Pot-Smoking Trayvon Admitted

It just doesn't seem to go away, does it?

The George Zimmerman defense team in the case of Trayvon Martin, whom Zimmerman killed during an altercation in March 2012 in Sanford, Florida, is contending that evidence of Martin’s possible drug use and gun involvement should be admitted into court. On Thursday, Zimmerman’s attorney’s released pictures and texts from Martin’s cellphone, including pictures of a pot plant and of a gun, as well as pictures of Martin, smoke emanating from his mouth as he flips off the camera.

Read more @ Zimmerman Defense Wants Pictures of Pot-Smoking Trayvon Admitted

 

[martybegan]

Zimmerman Defense Wants Pictures of Pot-Smoking Trayvon Admitted

It just doesn't seem to go away, does it?

The George Zimmerman defense team in the case of Trayvon Martin, whom Zimmerman killed during an altercation in March 2012 in Sanford, Florida, is contending that evidence of Martin’s possible drug use and gun involvement should be admitted into court. On Thursday, Zimmerman’s attorney’s released pictures and texts from Martin’s cellphone, including pictures of a pot plant and of a gun, as well as pictures of Martin, smoke emanating from his mouth as he flips off the camera.

Read more @ Zimmerman Defense Wants Pictures of Pot-Smoking Trayvon Admitted

I would think that all this is would be to clear evidence to rebutt any prosecutorial use of Travon's media-created biography, not as evidence to be introduced on its own.

i.e. the prosecution uses pictures of him was 12 like the media did, and the defense replies with pictures of him when he is 17, etc.