JoeB131
Paul is a crazy person.
Genocides unfold in stages. Stopping it at any one stage, stops the genocide from going forward.
The first people killed in any genocide are those in the mainstream who speak up for them. Now the message of hate goes unchallenged.
Racism grows and feeds off a culture of silence. The point of calling out racism is to break down that silence. I don't care if I persuade anyone. What matters is that I am heard and planted that seed in people’s minds of,
“Hey, maybe this is not right.”
And thing is - Calling out racism has more weight when it done by whites. It's the thing where people think white people are more neutral and objective in their opinions. It's
BULLSH*T. But hey ? That's what ppl think. It's the Tim Wise effect
So stop wasting time arguing with blk ppl in USMB and go and challenge the racism in your white community.
But I doubt you will because you suffer in the area of perception, as your perception in terms of racial relations is limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding.
Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. But I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and calls the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.
Education doesn't equal intelligence, intelligence doesn't equal knowledge, knowledge doesn't equal understanding, and understanding doesn't equal wisdom.
Calling me crazy is the ultimate compliment,cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.
JoeB131
Or a Russian Troll. The jury is still out on that one.
Accsusing someone of trolling is trolling.
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JoeB131
The ironic thing is that when my grandparents came here, the first house they bought was in a neighborhood that eventually changed. Grandpa Ludwig had to move when he found someone in his kitchen at 2 AM in the morning. That's when my dad bought a two flat so he'd have a place for his parents to live. They were stuck renting the old house because it was nearly impossible to sell.
So you're grandparents left to go to a country that black people built and fought for ?
OK. Got it.
What you leave out is that your grandparents got to where they were because of racism.
Yes your grandparents might have worked hard but that hard work was met with doors opening for them. Doors that would have never opened for them had they been black.
- Your grandparents didn't go through 100s of years of slavery - Because they were White.
- Your grandparents could vote by the 1860s, not the 1960s – Because they were White.
- Your grandparents qualified for the Homestead Act, the G.I. Bill and FHA loans – Because they were White.
- Your grandparents could live in certain affulent neighbourhoods - Because they were White.
- Your grandparents could send their kids to more well equipped schools - Because they were White.
JoeB131
By comfort of whiteness, you mean that my German Immigrant dad went to a job and worked long hours under dangerous conditions to bring home a paycheck to support his family, served this country in WWII as a medic and translator, was a solid citizen until he passed away very young at 56.
Your grandparents never dealt with legalized segregation.
- They were never treated as livestock.
- They were allowed to intermarry with other groups.
- They were not subjected to the pass laws.
- They were not being made to endure long periods without any running water
- They were not being made to endure long periods without electricity.
- They were not being made to feel like non-citizens in a country that they immigrated to when Jim Crow was in full swing.
It's grotesque and monumentally repugnant of white ppl who want to own victim-hood whilst being steeped in white privilege and patronizingly conflate their specific white ethnic problems within white dominance and project that onto black people
JoeB131
I also remember when the 198 riots broke out, when Jesse Jackson came back and waived his bloody shirt around,
And the 1968 Chicago RIOTS were over MLK being killed by a white man and systematic white supremacy in Chicago.
Question?
"Why do they destroy their own community?”
Because, after all, poor Black people own so much. Because liquor stores help the community. Because CVS is Black-owned. Because Black people are destroying their chance of being treated like animals by Arab and Asian shopkeepers from behind bulletproof glass.
Because those same shopkeepers hire so many Black people and do not drain money from the community. Because Wells Fargo and other banks have nothing to do with abandoned houses.
@joe131
my dad relocated the family to Wisconsin for the summer and showed my mom how to use a gun just in case this sort of thing ever happened again.
And he would have found it much more difficult to relocate had he been black. The white supremacist has made sure that whites can rent or live wherever they wish with the help of mortgage discrimination, redlining, zoning laws and so-called “market forces” pricing many blacks out of the better housing markets.
Nowadays white supremacists create these “Neighborhood Improvement Associations” which are ways to keep blacks out or banks that redlined entire communities, thereby depriving blk ppl of capital investment, or the predatory lenders who set up shop in the hood, and charge black borrowers 10 or 20 times the interest that a normal bank would
JoeB131
What he didn't do is father four kids on three different women, and expect the government to pick up the tab.
The system of white supremacy is a welfare system for white people. I hear this hard working grandparents story from
Lisa558 too
We are the ones who survived being bought and sold, to raped, to having our fingers cut off for learning to read, to being lynched, or relegated to the lowest-rung jobs and living in the poorest neighborhoods means for nothing.
We are the ones who survived the concerted attempt to destroy our people which says something about the character of those who managed the feat.
We are the ones who lead a struggle for freedom, and the advancement of human dignity and made a substantial contribution to the nation in which we live, and indeed the world?
This in a nation were white people have made surviving a few weeks on an island with television cameras and emergency medical assistance at the ready something for which the last person standing should be rewarded one million dollars
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JoeB131
So police reform? Absolutely.
The police don't need reform. The police just need punishing. Let me guess You want to send the police to African American history museuem in DC ? Let him watch
"Roots" Yeah ?
Let him have more police training ? All you do is punish. Give them minimum 25 year sentences for killing unarmed black ppl
JoeB131
Thugs taking over downtown Chicago because they are upset about George Floyd, and our gutless politicians won't stand up to them? Um. No.
I always find it interesting when whites use the word "thug" as code for black but never for whites no matter what they do.
Google searches
Compare:
White mass killers:
- 0 “dylan klebold was a thug”
- 0 “the tsarnaev brothers were thugs”
- 0 “james holmes was a thug”
- 1 “tim mcveigh was a thug
Famous White criminals:
- 0 “john wayne gacy was a thug”
- 1 “ted bundy was a thug”
- 4 “charles manson was a thug”
- 5 “bill the kid was a thug”
- 5 “bonnie and clyde were thugs”
- 10 “john gotti was a thug”
Unarmed Blacks killed by the police or neighbourhood watch:
- 7,320 “eric garner was a thug”
- 8,650 “oscar grant was a thug”
- 26,200 “trayvon martin was a thug”
- 45,200 “michael brown was a thug”
JoeB131
the best way to keep out of the criminal justice system is to actually stay out of trouble.
Won't matter.
White people would find more ways to criminalize black people. Blackness is the crime.
They'd make the areas where black peole even poorer. They'd pull out wealth, investments, subsidies. They'd do all sorts. They'd create more lies about asians being attacked by blacks. They'd kill black people and blame it on black men to create the black boogey man narrative,
The prison system provides jobs for ppl as officers, counsellors, medical personnel, teachers, plumbers, dieticians, electricians, construction workers, probation officers and social workers. So they need those prison full
And all this is explained away that blacks are just sub-human savages who are just natural criminal endless stats is churned out to make seem rational and logical,
JoeB131
So you got nothing, then?
I've got plenty. But you are not the person I'd discuss that with
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