The Nunes memo cannot discredit the "Russia" investigation. Why can't it?

[Billy_Bob]

First:

Because the investigation has already uncovered criminal activity to which the perpetrators have pled guilty and/or been indicted! That pair of facts alone already have proven:

• There was wrongdoing committed by Trump Admin./Campaign personnel
• There were ideas expressed and actions undertaken about which Trump Admin./Campaign personnel felt obliged to lie.

Second:

Because the only ways to "fight back" against a criminal indictment are (1) lying, or (2) presenting a strong legal case that refutes the veracity of the prosecution's assertions, and that must be done in in a courtroom.​

The Bull Shit is strong with this one....

Fruit of the poisonous tree...everything gleaned from the illegal wire taps and anything found due to them is now inadmissible in court... ANY INTERVIEW done due to the information gleaned and any information found in the interview is now garbage...

Which illegal wiretap is that?

Considering that there were over thirty (that we know of).... which one you want to deal with?

 

[Care4all]

you all do realize you were ''played'' by known PROPAGANDA tactics....

r's and the white house created the memo, r's had the power to request the top secret memo be released by the President without a single dem on the intelligence committee, the president had already said he would release it, even before reading it...

yet they started a Facebook Campaign and twitter campaign to #releasethememo, they sent out their goons on rightwing tv to RELEASETHEMEMO, and hyped it like no tomorrow, as if anyone could even stop them from doing such!!

got all their trumpsters all hyped up to 11 on #releasethememo, then pretended because of this # for release the memo interest, which was supported by 700,000 RUSSIAN BOT tweets, that this convinced them to show the memo to the R congress critters, and got them to have their vote in the Intel committee to release the memo and send it to the President to release the memo...

As I said, you were played to the nth degree by known propaganda tactics used on the populous in countries like Russia, China, etc.....

and now, by the Republican US Congress.....

Is this what you really call "winning"? Being played like a violin? Seriously?

 

[Rambunctious]

Obama's DOJ was lying to gain surveillance permission during a national campaign...that is worse than Watergate!

 

[Billy_Bob]

The Nunes memo reportedly is mostly about the dossier and FISA warrants.
Page was the only Trump team member with a FISA warrant.
As Page had an existing warrant since 2013 that was renewed annually, the dossier could not possibly be the basis for it. It could possibly be a corroborating source but not much else. It certainly doesn't mean the administration misused the court to 'spy' on the Trump campaign.

The memo will show who and why and what was told to the FISA court....what was told to the court and more importantly what was not told to the FISA court...
Obama's DOJ was lying to gain surveillance permission during a national campaign...that is worse than Watergate!

And then they used reverse targeting and unmasked US citizens and distributed the contents of their conversations far and wide in democrat circles and with the Clinton campaign. WITHOUT A WARRANT.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Except Page had a FISA warrant on him since 2013.

True.

I think a lot of people misunderstand the whole situation, which is why both memos should be released.

The Nunes memo reportedly is mostly about the dossier and FISA warrants.
Page was the only Trump team member with a FISA warrant.
As Page had an existing warrant since 2013 that was renewed annually, the dossier could not possibly be the basis for it. It could possibly be a corroborating source but not much else. It certainly doesn't mean the administration misused the court to 'spy' on the Trump campaign.

You getting your info from CNN again?

Apparently you don't get any.

Page has had an open FISA warrant on him since 2013. It has been renewed annually and is still active.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Except Page had a FISA warrant on him since 2013.

True.

I think a lot of people misunderstand the whole situation, which is why both memos should be released.

The Nunes memo reportedly is mostly about the dossier and FISA warrants.
Page was the only Trump team member with a FISA warrant.
As Page had an existing warrant since 2013 that was renewed annually, the dossier could not possibly be the basis for it. It could possibly be a corroborating source but not much else. It certainly doesn't mean the administration misused the court to 'spy' on the Trump campaign.

You getting your info from CNN again?

Apparently you don't get any.

Page has had an open FISA warrant on him since 2013. It has been renewed annually and is still active.

There were other persons that were being spied on dumb ass.. Flynn was just one... there are many...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The Nunes memo reportedly is mostly about the dossier and FISA warrants.
Page was the only Trump team member with a FISA warrant.
As Page had an existing warrant since 2013 that was renewed annually, the dossier could not possibly be the basis for it. It could possibly be a corroborating source but not much else. It certainly doesn't mean the administration misused the court to 'spy' on the Trump campaign.

The memo will show who and why and what was told to the FISA court....what was told to the court and more importantly what was not told to the FISA court...
Obama's DOJ was lying to gain surveillance permission during a national campaign...that is worse than Watergate!

Page had an active FISA warrant the entire campaign. It was renewed every year since 2013 and is still active. Please tell us that Obama knew that Trump would run and hire Page.

 

[del]

First:

Because the investigation has already uncovered criminal activity to which the perpetrators have pled guilty and/or been indicted! That pair of facts alone already have proven:

• There was wrongdoing committed by Trump Admin./Campaign personnel
• There were ideas expressed and actions undertaken about which Trump Admin./Campaign personnel felt obliged to lie.

Second:

Because the only ways to "fight back" against a criminal indictment are (1) lying, or (2) presenting a strong legal case that refutes the veracity of the prosecution's assertions, and that must be done in in a courtroom.​

The Bull Shit is strong with this one....

Fruit of the poisonous tree...everything gleaned from the illegal wire taps and anything found due to them is now inadmissible in court... ANY INTERVIEW done due to the information gleaned and any information found in the interview is now garbage...

Which illegal wiretap is that?

the one in his head

 

[Rambunctious]

The reason everyone is trying so hard to stop the memos release is because it will lead right to the first African American presidents front door...

 

[Cellblock2429]

First:

Because the investigation has already uncovered criminal activity to which the perpetrators have pled guilty and/or been indicted! That pair of facts alone already have proven:

• There was wrongdoing committed by Trump Admin./Campaign personnel
• There were ideas expressed and actions undertaken about which Trump Admin./Campaign personnel felt obliged to lie.

Second:

Because the only ways to "fight back" against a criminal indictment are (1) lying, or (2) presenting a strong legal case that refutes the veracity of the prosecution's assertions, and that must be done in in a courtroom.​

/----/ We got him this time....

 

[del]

The reason everyone is trying so hard to stop the memos release is because it will lead right to the first African American presidents front door...

you can dream, cracker, you can dream

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The Nunes memo reportedly is mostly about the dossier and FISA warrants.
Page was the only Trump team member with a FISA warrant.
As Page had an existing warrant since 2013 that was renewed annually, the dossier could not possibly be the basis for it. It could possibly be a corroborating source but not much else. It certainly doesn't mean the administration misused the court to 'spy' on the Trump campaign.

The memo will show who and why and what was told to the FISA court....what was told to the court and more importantly what was not told to the FISA court...
Obama's DOJ was lying to gain surveillance permission during a national campaign...that is worse than Watergate!

And then they used reverse targeting and unmasked US citizens and distributed the contents of their conversations far and wide in democrat circles and with the Clinton campaign. WITHOUT A WARRANT.

Liar.

 

[Rambunctious]

The reason everyone is trying so hard to stop the memos release is because it will lead right to the first African American presidents front door...

you can dream, cracker, you can dream

Don't have to dream I can see it coming...all the information so far points right to Obama and his desire to spy on Trump...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Except Page had a FISA warrant on him since 2013.

True.

I think a lot of people misunderstand the whole situation, which is why both memos should be released.

The Nunes memo reportedly is mostly about the dossier and FISA warrants.
Page was the only Trump team member with a FISA warrant.
As Page had an existing warrant since 2013 that was renewed annually, the dossier could not possibly be the basis for it. It could possibly be a corroborating source but not much else. It certainly doesn't mean the administration misused the court to 'spy' on the Trump campaign.

You getting your info from CNN again?

Apparently you don't get any.

Page has had an open FISA warrant on him since 2013. It has been renewed annually and is still active.

There were other persons that were being spied on dumb ass.. Flynn was just one... there are many...

There aren't but feel free to post up what you have.

 

[del]

And then they used reverse targeting and unmasked US citizens and distributed the contents of their conversations far and wide in democrat circles and with the Clinton campaign. WITHOUT A WARRANT.

and then they killed your puppy, didn't they?

the big meanies

 

[del]

The reason everyone is trying so hard to stop the memos release is because it will lead right to the first African American presidents front door...

you can dream, cracker, you can dream

Don't have to dream I can see it coming...all the information so far points right to Obama and his desire to spy on Trump...

sure it does, pal

have another beer

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The Nunes memo reportedly is mostly about the dossier and FISA warrants.
Page was the only Trump team member with a FISA warrant.
As Page had an existing warrant since 2013 that was renewed annually, the dossier could not possibly be the basis for it. It could possibly be a corroborating source but not much else. It certainly doesn't mean the administration misused the court to 'spy' on the Trump campaign.

The memo will show who and why and what was told to the FISA court....what was told to the court and more importantly what was not told to the FISA court...
Obama's DOJ was lying to gain surveillance permission during a national campaign...that is worse than Watergate!

They didn't have to lie, dope. Page had an existing warrant for three years already by that time. Mr. Page was well known to the FISA court.

 

[Care4all]

The Nunes memo reportedly is mostly about the dossier and FISA warrants.
Page was the only Trump team member with a FISA warrant.
As Page had an existing warrant since 2013 that was renewed annually, the dossier could not possibly be the basis for it. It could possibly be a corroborating source but not much else. It certainly doesn't mean the administration misused the court to 'spy' on the Trump campaign.

The memo will show who and why and what was told to the FISA court....what was told to the court and more importantly what was not told to the FISA court...
Obama's DOJ was lying to gain surveillance permission during a national campaign...that is worse than Watergate!

Page had an active FISA warrant the entire campaign. It was renewed every year since 2013 and is still active. Please tell us that Obama knew that Trump would run and hire Page.

just 1 correction on that, the FISA warrant was renewed every 90 days since 2013....

the only way to get a renewal is to show a FISA judge, that the previous 90 days of surveillance produced results that helped our national security. The FISA judge, goes over the information with a fine tooth comb, and then approves it, if it does show it was beneficial to our National Security and was getting results of such, through the surveillance.

NOTE! If the FISA Judge is not shown enough evidence then it is not renewed for the following 90 days, but if they come back showing more info of why it is needed, then it will be renewed for another 90 days..... there can be gaps of not having a FISA, before it goes back in to affect....is my understanding...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You mean the lying on the security forms about the contacts of most of the Trump admin does not constitute a crime? Boy, do we read those laws differently.

Flynn "lied" to Stzrok, how is that a crime?

 

[Rambunctious]

sure it does, pal

have another beer

Wish I could...had dental work done no carbonated beverages allowed...