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Stupid journalists of Chicago Tribune can't even match the number of the terms. First they wrote about "five unofficial Japanese peace overtures", but then they wrote about 7 terms of capitulation. And yes, actual instrument of surrender was different:
Are you kidding?
Ok. Let's play game. There were three main reasons for Japan's surrender in our reality:DupeAnd what is worse we don't know, would they have surrendered to our troops or to the Russians? The divided Japan, as divided Germany, would dramatically change scenarios of Korean and Vietnam wars.The Japs would have fought to the end .Why?NoCan you find one quote from one political or military leader of that time indicating that we incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians as an act of revenge?One bomb just for the “ death marches on Americans “
But the bombs had to fall
Millions would die in the coming US land invasion
It had to be done
Yes, thousands of Japans died, but millions of them didn't become communists. And it is much better to be dead than red.
1) Defeat of their Navy and naval blocade;
2) Nuclear attack;
3) Russia's entry into the war.
If we don't nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Russians capture Sakhalin, Hokkaido and Northern Honshu and create another puppet Communistic state.
Except these RETARDS keep claiming Japan offered to surrender to all demands except the Emperor before the bombs.
Clearly they did try to surrender as early as 1944, before Stalin’s Stooge died. You’re just too dumb to comprehend.
1) They didn't try to "surrender". They were searching for the "peace on their terms".
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Read the fucking link for cryin' out loud.
They won’t. They are all pussies. They can’t accept the truth.
1) The article in Chicago Tribune proves nothing. They are well-known liars. Do you have real documents?
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2) Peace with Japan in 1944 means another big war in Pacific in next ten-twenty years. ...
No one has said otherwise, genius....
Bullshit! FDR was dead when the bomb was dropped ...
The actual military leaders of the day did not share your idiotic self-indulgent view of things, little boy. Empty self-indulgence from irrelevant, big mouth nobodies like you on the internet means exactly nothing. Real military leaders then and now do not sacrifice their humanity for a moment of 'crush an empty bud light can on the forehead' masturbatory moment. Grow the fuck up....Still Japan got the nuke, they needed the nuke and they deserved the nuke. Hell they weren't nuked enough and if they hadn't already nuked themselves with Fukushima I'd say we should go and nuke the assholes again. ...
English.What is yours? ...Wow. What is your first language?Stupid journalists of Chicago Tribune can't even match the number of the terms. First they wrote about "five unofficial Japanese peace overtures", but then they wrote about 7 terms of capitulation. ...
Pick one and prove how it was won mainly due to destroying women and children rather than defeating a foe on the battlefield.Many of them. Starting from Jewish conquer of the lands of modern Israel and finishing by Kosovo war.Which ones?It is the stupid "argument". There were plenty of wars, won by destroying women and children."[W]ars cannot be won by destroying women and children" sounds like an argument.It is nothing but his "feelings". Can you suggest any arguments?Admiral William D. Leahy, Truman’s own chief of staff said the following....
...the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. . . . My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make wars in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.
NOT one of those attempts were backed by the ruling 6 and the Emperor remained silent. No offer was made AT all except buy unofficial people with no backing from the people running the Government. And as was evidenced by what they offered after the 1st atomic bomb NONE of them would have ever been official.Stupid journalists of Chicago Tribune can't even match the number of the terms. First they wrote about "five unofficial Japanese peace overtures", but then they wrote about 7 terms of capitulation. And yes, actual instrument of surrender was different:
If you understood English a little better, it would be obvious to you that "five unofficial Japanese peace overtures" refers to how many times attempts were made to open discussions about a negotiated surrender and "7 terms of capitulation" refers to the terms offered as part of said overtures. You need to go back and start at "Introductory ESL" again.
Again RETARD NONE of those were from the Government of Japan. NONE NADA ZIP. In fact the response from the big 6 after the Atomic bomb first dropped proves NONE of them would have been accepted by the big 6. Thats like claiming because Ralph down the block offered japan a surrender the Government was some how beholden to honor it.
You don’t understand how propaganda works. Don’t you think the powers-that-be can’t accept it either? They knew then and now that they had to cover up the war crime Truman committed. This is why the US military censored all reports and photographs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They knew the American people would be disgusted by the wanton killing of civilians.Again RETARD NONE of those were from the Government of Japan. NONE NADA ZIP. In fact the response from the big 6 after the Atomic bomb first dropped proves NONE of them would have been accepted by the big 6. Thats like claiming because Ralph down the block offered japan a surrender the Government was some how beholden to honor it.
LOL yup a Japanese man that survived the fire bombings would lie for the US sure thing RETARD.You don’t understand how propaganda works. Don’t you think the powers-that-be can’t accept it either? They knew then and now that they had to cover up the war crime Truman committed. This is why the US military censored all reports and photographs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They knew the American people would be disgusted by the wanton killing of civilians.Again RETARD NONE of those were from the Government of Japan. NONE NADA ZIP. In fact the response from the big 6 after the Atomic bomb first dropped proves NONE of them would have been accepted by the big 6. Thats like claiming because Ralph down the block offered japan a surrender the Government was some how beholden to honor it.
Ralph Raico is much more intelligent than your compromised sources. I’ll believe him since after all, he has the facts.
There isn’t a Japanese person alive who would agree with you.LOL yup a Japanese man that survived the fire bombings would lie for the US sure thing RETARD.You don’t understand how propaganda works. Don’t you think the powers-that-be can’t accept it either? They knew then and now that they had to cover up the war crime Truman committed. This is why the US military censored all reports and photographs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They knew the American people would be disgusted by the wanton killing of civilians.Again RETARD NONE of those were from the Government of Japan. NONE NADA ZIP. In fact the response from the big 6 after the Atomic bomb first dropped proves NONE of them would have been accepted by the big 6. Thats like claiming because Ralph down the block offered japan a surrender the Government was some how beholden to honor it.
Ralph Raico is much more intelligent than your compromised sources. I’ll believe him since after all, he has the facts.
LOL I guess you missed the link to the Japanese Historian ehh?There isn’t a Japanese person alive who would agree with you.LOL yup a Japanese man that survived the fire bombings would lie for the US sure thing RETARD.You don’t understand how propaganda works. Don’t you think the powers-that-be can’t accept it either? They knew then and now that they had to cover up the war crime Truman committed. This is why the US military censored all reports and photographs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They knew the American people would be disgusted by the wanton killing of civilians.Again RETARD NONE of those were from the Government of Japan. NONE NADA ZIP. In fact the response from the big 6 after the Atomic bomb first dropped proves NONE of them would have been accepted by the big 6. Thats like claiming because Ralph down the block offered japan a surrender the Government was some how beholden to honor it.
Ralph Raico is much more intelligent than your compromised sources. I’ll believe him since after all, he has the facts.
You’ve been missing links for years on this board. You’ve got some nerve saying that to me.LOL I guess you missed the link to the Japanese Historian ehh?There isn’t a Japanese person alive who would agree with you.LOL yup a Japanese man that survived the fire bombings would lie for the US sure thing RETARD.You don’t understand how propaganda works. Don’t you think the powers-that-be can’t accept it either? They knew then and now that they had to cover up the war crime Truman committed. This is why the US military censored all reports and photographs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They knew the American people would be disgusted by the wanton killing of civilians.Again RETARD NONE of those were from the Government of Japan. NONE NADA ZIP. In fact the response from the big 6 after the Atomic bomb first dropped proves NONE of them would have been accepted by the big 6. Thats like claiming because Ralph down the block offered japan a surrender the Government was some how beholden to honor it.
Ralph Raico is much more intelligent than your compromised sources. I’ll believe him since after all, he has the facts.
LOL yet you can not deny that a Japanese Historian that survived the fire bombings of Tokyo disagrees with your ludicrous claims. At NO TIME did the Government of Japan offer to surrender before the 2nd atomic bomb,You’ve been missing links for years on this board. You’ve got some nerve saying that to me.LOL I guess you missed the link to the Japanese Historian ehh?There isn’t a Japanese person alive who would agree with you.LOL yup a Japanese man that survived the fire bombings would lie for the US sure thing RETARD.You don’t understand how propaganda works. Don’t you think the powers-that-be can’t accept it either? They knew then and now that they had to cover up the war crime Truman committed. This is why the US military censored all reports and photographs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They knew the American people would be disgusted by the wanton killing of civilians.Again RETARD NONE of those were from the Government of Japan. NONE NADA ZIP. In fact the response from the big 6 after the Atomic bomb first dropped proves NONE of them would have been accepted by the big 6. Thats like claiming because Ralph down the block offered japan a surrender the Government was some how beholden to honor it.
Ralph Raico is much more intelligent than your compromised sources. I’ll believe him since after all, he has the facts.
You're close but did'nt score a homerun. It's not weapons that are immoral. It is war that IS immoral.Whatever labored, embarrassing arguments one can make for the nuking of Hiroshima cannot be made for the nuking of Nagasaki just three days later. From my article "Did We Really Need to Use the Atomic Bomb Against Japan?":
On August 9, 1945, just three days after we nuked Hiroshima, and before Japan’s leaders had sufficient time to process and respond to our nuclear attack on Hiroshima, we dropped an atomic bomb on the city of Nagasaki, which was home to Japan’s largest Christian population. The atomic bombing of Nagasaki was even more inexcusable than the nuking of Hiroshima. . . .On August 9, we nuked Nagasaki, just three days after Hiroshima, and hours after the Soviets began to maul the Japanese army in Manchuria,, and while Japan’s civilian leaders were understandably absorbed with trying to process what had happened to Hiroshima and with responding to the Soviet attack in Manchuria. Surely Truman and other high officials knew that three days was not enough time for Japan’s government to formulate a formal response to the unprecedented use of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and to the Soviet invasion in Manchuria. Even McGeorge Bundy, who helped Henry Stimson write his defense of the atomic bombing of Japan, acknowledged that Truman was too quick to nuke Nagasaki:
"It is hard to see that much could have been lost if there had been more time between the two bombs. . . . Such a delay would have been relatively easy, and I think right." (https://miketgriffith.com/files/immoraluse.pdf)The Japanese were not even able to get a scientific team to Hiroshima until August 7, the day after the attack. Meanwhile, Japan's leaders were getting conflicting, fragmentary information about what had happened in Hiroshima. Some Army officials were telling the government that the bombing of Hiroshima was merely a very large conventional bombing raid, and they were suppressing information about the kinds of wounds that had been inflicted. There was no Internet back then, no fax machines, no Skype.
Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.
If General McArthur claimed that Japan was set to surrender before the second bomb, then he is a liar.Why would you call General McArthur, a true America hero, a liar?
Are you a progressive? Only leftists accuse people of being “racist/communist/etc.” after they’ve been proven wrong.Are you a commie traitor?
