Which makes sense. If next cycle Joe Biden says "I'm now running as a republican" with no change to his platforms, I'd hope the Republicans pushed him out the door too. But that's my opinion. You want the party nomination, join the party.
Again --- what does that even mean, to "join a party"?
If one runs as, in this case, a "Republican", that means they got the endorsement of the Republican Party. That's all it means. It tells us nothing about the candidate personally.
Well parties have platforms. For example if Hillary kept her ideals and said "I'm running for the rep
Which makes sense. If next cycle Joe Biden says "I'm now running as a republican" with no change to his platforms, I'd hope the Republicans pushed him out the door too. But that's my opinion. You want the party nomination, join the party.
Again --- what does that even mean, to "join a party"?
If one runs as, in this case, a "Republican", that means they got the endorsement of the Republican Party. That's all it means. It tells us nothing about the candidate personally.
No it doesn't tell you completely about them personally. But my thought is if you want to run for their party you should be a member. If you want to be an independent then run as an independent.
I just think if you aren't willing to join the party through your political career, then if they don't welcome you with open arms to win their nomination that's okay to me.
I've still got no answer on what it means to "join" a party. To register in their name, that's
it? What's the point?
Absolutely true, the party is going to nominate who it wants to nominate, and the "primaries" are bread and circus to make it look like a real thing. But that's all it is --- a cartel. You get two subcartels, one red, one blue, and they control everything. Go outside the cartel, you go nowhere. Think of the two together as a Mob. It may feel nice and idealistic to fantasize about breaking the system from the outside but it's not gonna happen in the real world as long as Duopoly rules. Therefore you run red or you run blue, and those are your only choices. Regardless of anybody's ideals.
Well one is to say "in this election I will be opposing your parties candidates"
And if you want to run blue then run blue. Don't run to beat the guy running blue, then decide that is the group you want to join for your political gain as you choose. That's it.
Or in Sanders case run as a Dem, then decline the nomination to ensure they can't field a candidate to oppose you in the election.
I just am fine if the party you run against to keep out of an election doesn't want you using their party when it suits you.
I'm afraid that IS the only function of a political party. It's the horse you ride to get to the office.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
It doesn't mean anything ideologically --- it means "what will work in this time and place". That's why mayors like Frank Rizzo and Ray Nagin ran as Democrats .... they knew if you're going to run a city that's the only way you get elected. That's simply practical, nothing to do with ideologies. That's why Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms and Richard Shelby and Trent Lott et al jumped from Democrat to Republican. Same people with the same ideologies, jumping to a different horse because the odds had changed.
I keep bringing up the example of the sheriff in my town. In different years he runs as a Democrat or as a Republican, depending on whichever way he thinks the winds are blowing. Same guy doing the same job in the same way.
This is step one to overthrowing the Duopoly --- to be honest about what it IS. What it is NOT is anything "ideological". It's a racket, with the goal of attaining Power. I think the more we exalt them with this cockamamie idea that "Democrat" or "Republican" somehow mean something "pure", the longer the Duopoly stays entrenched.
