The next offensive must focus on decimating the IRGC.

[Man With A Plan]

The "force" that's in the Gulf is hundreds of miles away from Iran's coast, which is smart, because if they come within range of Iran's SRBM's, they'll be nothing but coral reefs at the bottom of the sea.



Drones - for now.

Can you give me an example of the Iranians actually causing damage to a US Navy vessel, Mulitvita-man?

 

[multivita-man]

Can you give me an example of the Iranians actually causing damage to a US Navy vessel, Mulitvita-man?

I didn't say that they had damaged US Navy vessels; said that they could damage them if they come close enough. The US Navy knows this, which is why they're out in the Arabian Sea and not the Persian Gulf.

I can, however, provide evidence of 13-16 military bases and the 5th Fleet being pretty much put out of commission.

 

[Man With A Plan]

I didn't say that they had damaged US Navy vessels; said that they could damage them if they come close enough. The US Navy knows this, which is why they're out in the Arabian Sea and not the Persian Gulf.

I can, however, provide evidence of 13-16 military bases and the 5th Fleet being pretty much put out of commission.

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Dude, you are clueless! The US sent three destroyers through the Straights of Hormuz a week ago. The Iranians attempted to attack them with drones, ballistic missiles and fast boat swarms. Everything Iran attacked with was destroyed. EVERYTHING! None of the three destroyers got a scratch and Iran lost every asset they attempted to use! It was a blood bath!

 

[multivita-man]

Dude, you are clueless! The US sent three destroyers through the Straights of Hormuz a week ago.

No, they absolutely did not. CENTCOM claimed they did, but they didn't. They went into the Gulf of Oman and then turned around. If the US were capable of sending destroyers into the Persian Gulf, they would send more. They would be opening the Strait for ships to come out and go in. That isn't happening. Because Iran controls the Strait.

The Iranians attempted to attack them with drones, ballistic missiles and fast boat swarms. Everything Iran attacked with was destroyed. EVERYTHING! None of the three destroyers got a scratch and Iran lost every asset they attempted to use! It was a blood bath!

Fantasy.

 

[Zavulon]

Or you.

My personal choice - avoid ready solutions from mass media and try to examine other points or view, too. It's one of the reasons why I'm here.
As I said, I believe in democracy, and democracy is possible only when people can participate in decision-making. And to be able to do so, people should be well-informed. And to be well-informed, we should examine different point of views and real facts.

 

[Man With A Plan]

No, they absolutely did not. CENTCOM claimed they did, but they didn't. They went into the Gulf of Oman and then turned around. If the US were capable of sending destroyers into the Persian Gulf, they would send more. They would be opening the Strait for ships to come out and go in. That isn't happening. Because Iran controls the Strait.



Fantasy.

Those 3 destroyers went through the Straight of Hormuz and Iran threw everything they had at them! Drones...missiles and fast boat swarms. The US military destroyed everything. It was a slaughter and it was planned. Anything Iran sends out into the water the US has an answer to.

 

[multivita-man]

Those 3 destroyers went through the Straight of Hormuz and Iran threw everything they had at them! Drones...missiles and fast boat swarms. The US military destroyed everything. It was a slaughter and it was planned. Anything Iran sends out into the water the US has an answer to.

They did not go through the Strait. They went into the Gulf of Oman, were confronted by IRGC, and they scampered away like scared kitty cats.

 

[Man With A Plan]

They did not go through the Strait. They went into the Gulf of Oman, were confronted by IRGC, and they scampered away like scared kitty cats.

Those 3 destroyers were the bait to a trap. They went right through the Straight, daring Iran to come out and play. When they did...the US demonstrated the overwhelming superiority of it's military. The Iranian missiles don't work because the US easily jams their targeting systems. The drones and the fast boats were absolutely wiped out by Apache helicopters. And the sites that those Iranian assets were launched from were immediately targeted and destroyed by US missiles. THAT is the reality of that conflict!

 

[multivita-man]

Those 3 destroyers were the bait to a trap. They went right through the Straight, daring Iran to come out and play. When they did...the US demonstrated the overwhelming superiority of it's military. The Iranian missiles don't work because the US easily jams their targeting systems. The drones and the fast boats were absolutely wiped out by Apache helicopters. And the sites that those Iranian assets were launched from were immediately targeted and destroyed by US missiles. THAT is the reality of that conflict!

This is pure fiction lol.

For one thing you're confusing missiles with drones. The 14 or 15 military bases in the Gulf that are now virtually uninhabitable and useless are testament to Iran's missile capabilities.

If the Navy dared to try crossing the Strait, they would be hit with short-range ballistic missiles, and their vessels would end up at the bottom of the Gulf.

 

[Mac-7]

Clowns .
They are both consenting members of the one scripted piece of Theatre .

Try imagining what a Deep State might do to obtain greater control over the Sheeple Herd .

Well , well , well .
That is exactly what you are watching .
The Drug Cartels are simply tying up a huge loose end in order to streamline the system’s reach and efficiency .

Does anyone know what luiza is babbling about?

Many of his posts make little to know sense and this is one of them

 

[Man With A Plan]

This is pure fiction lol.

For one thing you're confusing missiles with drones. The 14 or 15 military bases in the Gulf that are now virtually uninhabitable and useless are testament to Iran's missile capabilities.

If the Navy dared to try crossing the Strait, they would be hit with short-range ballistic missiles, and their vessels would end up at the bottom of the Gulf.

The Iranians launched their short range ballistic missiles and the US countered with their Growler airborne electronic attack aircraft jamming the targeting systems for the Iranian missiles. None of the missiles came anywhere near the 3 destroyers. Most of them simply splashed harmlessly into the water.

 

[multivita-man]

The Iranians launched their short range ballistic missiles and the US countered with their Growler airborne electronic attack aircraft jamming the targeting systems for the Iranian missiles. None of the missiles came anywhere near the 3 destroyers. Most of them simply splashed harmlessly into the water.

No, that is what CENTCOM claimed, but CENTCOM hasn't backed up any of their claims. In fact their claims that they crossed the Strait were bullshit. They put out "video" purporting to show them in the Persian Gulf - those turned out to be stills lol.

CENTCOM has hidden the truth about the US bases being damaged to the point of being uninhabitable, and they're lying about their successes in the Strait. Iran did NOT fire SRBMs at USN vessels; they fired drones. They're not going to waste missiles when they have a supply of drones that can send the warning message. They send the missiles and subs if the USN doesn't heed the warning.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No, that is what CENTCOM claimed, but CENTCOM hasn't backed up any of their claims. In fact their claims that they crossed the Strait were bullshit. They put out "video" purporting to show them in the Persian Gulf - those turned out to be stills lol.

CENTCOM has hidden the truth about the US bases being damaged to the point of being uninhabitable, and they're lying about their successes in the Strait. Iran did NOT fire SRBMs at USN vessels; they fired drones. They're not going to waste missiles when they have a supply of drones that can send the warning message. They send the missiles and subs if the USN doesn't heed the warning.

You're talking nonsense. US destroyers have five layers of defense against missiles and drones, so it is unlikely Iran would hit any destroyers let alone sink one. Littoral combat ships are similarly equipped.

Your claim that CENTCOM is lying is without any foundation in fact or logic and you claim that that CENTCOM withheld info about bases being attacked is nonsense since they were abandoned before the war because it was expected they would be attacked.

It is just brain dead stupid to imagine Iran's military could stand up against the US military. The only way the regime can "win" is to survive until Trump is out of office, and that is not about to happen.

 

[multivita-man]

You're talking nonsense. US destroyers have five layers of defense against missiles and drones, so it is unlikely Iran would hit any destroyers let alone sink one. Littoral combat ships are similarly equipped.

Your claim that CENTCOM is lying is without any foundation in fact or logic and you claim that that CENTCOM withheld info about bases being attacked is nonsense since they were abandoned before the war because it was expected they would be attacked.

It is just brain dead stupid to imagine Iran's military could stand up against the US military. The only way the regime can "win" is to survive until Trump is out of office, and that is not about to happen.

Nope. If CENTCOM weren't lying, if the US Navy would transit the Strait of Hormuz, that would indicate Iranian weakness, not only in terms of controlling the seas but also the airspace. That would be a sign that IRGC's in serious trouble and that their fighting capabilities are seriously degraded. They're not. They control the Strait and Trump was in Beijing begging the Chinese to help him get it back open.

The truth speaks for itself, if you just open your eyes and ears and wake up to it.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Nope. If CENTCOM weren't lying, if the US Navy would transit the Strait of Hormuz, that would indicate Iranian weakness, not only in terms of controlling the seas but also the airspace. That would be a sign that IRGC's in serious trouble and that their fighting capabilities are seriously degraded. They're not. They control the Strait and Trump was in Beijing begging the Chinese to help him get it back open.

The truth speaks for itself, if you just open your eyes and ears and wake up to it.

The IRGC is weak and growing weaker everyday, and that's why they only target civilians and not the military.

 

[multivita-man]

The IRGC is weak and growing weaker everyday, and that's why they only target civilians and not the military.

You clearly aren't following the war.

 

[Man With A Plan]

No, that is what CENTCOM claimed, but CENTCOM hasn't backed up any of their claims. In fact their claims that they crossed the Strait were bullshit. They put out "video" purporting to show them in the Persian Gulf - those turned out to be stills lol.

CENTCOM has hidden the truth about the US bases being damaged to the point of being uninhabitable, and they're lying about their successes in the Strait. Iran did NOT fire SRBMs at USN vessels; they fired drones. They're not going to waste missiles when they have a supply of drones that can send the warning message. They send the missiles and subs if the USN doesn't heed the warning.

Subs? You think Iran has subs left? They lost those in the first few days of the conflict, Sparky! US subs sank them seconds after they targeted an aircraft carrier. They never knew what hit them...never got a torpedo in the water!

What bases have been damaged by Iran to the point of being uninhabitable? Name one? You've been listening to Iranian state propaganda again, haven't you?

 

[Man With A Plan]

You clearly aren't following the war.

The US military is dominating that region as completely as I've ever witnessed, Baghdad Bob! This has been an even bigger ass kicking than Saddam got when he tried to take over Kuwait.

 

[Man With A Plan]

The IRGC is weak and growing weaker everyday, and that's why they only target civilians and not the military.

Every time that Iran rolls out a missile launcher and fires a rocket, it's location is marked and the US responds with guided missiles. Iran's use of missiles is down 90% from the first few days of the war. They haven't really been effective (other than really pissing off their Gulf neighbors who are now joining in with Israel and the US to attack Iran!) and every time they lose more launch sites.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You clearly aren't following the war.

Clearly I am.