The next offensive must focus on decimating the IRGC.

[multivita-man]

If China cared we would be seeing its navy going there or maybe politely sending two million troops through Pakistan to motivate them.

We would see China cutting Iran's economic and military support. China wants Iran to win. For reasons that are obvious.

China does not see the US as a permanent enemy, but they want us to learn our lesson.

 

[multivita-man]

Tehran, like Corpus Christi, almost ran out of water last year, as in they were planning mass evacuations.

Iran is imploding just fine without us. Fund some guerilla movements and support the Gulf States building rail and pipeline networks: welcome to 1880 guys!

Iran will survive. We're daydreaming about all the ways they will collapse, but they will persist as they always have. If we decide to start attacking their water security, Iran takes out all the desal plants in the Gulf and in Israel, and those places become almost uninhabitable overnight. As bad a situation as Iran is in with regard to water security, Iran can make their situation instantly much worse.

 

[multivita-man]

That is what happens when you spend Billions of dollars on terror, nuclear weapons research, drones and ballistic missiles instead of building desalination plants! The IRGC did this to Iran and the people KNOW it!

Nah, the Iranians know that the US and Israel want to destroy Iranian civilization. As bad as Iran's government is, they'll take a functioning mullah state over whatever violence and chaos we're offering them.

 

[kyzr]

Nah, the Iranians know that the US and Israel want to destroy Iranian civilization. As bad as Iran's government is, they'll take a functioning mullah state over whatever violence and chaos we're offering them.

yeah, that's why 42,000 just died protesting them, murdered by the IRGC.

 

[multivita-man]

Massie presents a bill to force AIPAC (Mossad's bribery team) to register as a foreign lobby and just like clockwork, Massie is accused of some contrived, sexual scandal almost the next day.

Smear Tactics!!!!

I have been a solid libtard since the 00s, but I find myself gravitating more toward the Massie wing of the Republican party when it comes to foreign policy lately. The Dem leadership sucks just as bad the GOP IMO. Massie, MTG...they get it. I think a lot of Dems get it as well but they're just too chickenshit to come out and say it.

 

[multivita-man]

yeah, that's why 42,000 just died protesting them, murdered by the IRGC.

Oh FFS, just stop with your bullshit. First of all, that number is pulled out of the neocons' and AIPAC's asses. Beyond that, those who were killed were not real protesters; they were anti-Ayatollah militants and separatists who were armed, trained, and funded by Mossad and CIA. I could pull sources admitting as much, including former CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Israeli media.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Nope - that's how I know you're posting bullshit. The Iranian people aren't rising up against their government because they trust their own government more than whatever outcome the US and Israel have in mind. Mind you, I'm not denying many Iranians don't necessarily like their regime, but they'll take it over the alternative. Iran will also get help from neighbors, such as China, Russia, Pakistan, and others.

We're not going to succeed. Sorry. I know you want to believe otherwise, but Iran is pushing us out of the Persian Gulf.

Deal.

They haven't risen up against their government because the last time they tried that...their government slaughtered tens of thousands of them in the streets! The IRGC has guns. The average Iranian does not. Duh?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Nah, the Iranians know that the US and Israel want to destroy Iranian civilization. As bad as Iran's government is, they'll take a functioning mullah state over whatever violence and chaos we're offering them.

The "Mullah State" has turned Iran into a failed State. The Iranian people have had enough. When you have to hold a gun to people's heads to keep yourself in power it's just a matter of time before you're history.

 

[jacksonlamb]

You clearly don't understand how AI works. AI is a prediction and fetch machine - maybe a better version of OG Google Search back in the day. But it's not a source. I've used AI myself when I'm lazy, but I (usually) it's still not a source.

China has not agreed to intervene on behalf of the United States re Iran because China wants Iran to win. China wants the US out of the Persian Gulf as much as Iran does. China understands that at least part of the motivation behind the attempted regime change in Iran was to cut China off from Iranian oil, so the idea that they're going to forget that and help Iran open the Strait before Iran is ready is bullshit. I know that's what most of the idiotic Western press has printed, but it's not true.

You have no idea how it works, clearly.

It is a resource machine with sources. Check the sources if you don't like the message.

 

[kyzr]

Oh FFS, just stop with your bullshit. First of all, that number is pulled out of the neocons' and AIPAC's asses. Beyond that, those who were killed were not real protesters; they were anti-Ayatollah militants and separatists who were armed, trained, and funded by Mossad and CIA. I could pull sources admitting as much, including former CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Israeli media.

So put up those links, here's mine:

Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

More than 36,500 Iranians were killed by security forces during the January 8-9 crackdown on nationwide protests, making it the deadliest two-day protest massacre in history, according to documents reviewed by Iran International's Editorial Board.

www.iranintl.com

Latest Human Rights Report: 43,000 Killed in the Crackdown on Protests in Iran For Immediate Release - International Centre for Human Rights

International Center for Human Rights in Iran Toronto, Canada – January 20, 2026 Based on conducted investigations, field research, verification of received images and videos, and interviews with multiple sources inside Iran, at least 43,000 people have so far been killed by agents of the...

humanrightsintl.com

 

[multivita-man]

They haven't risen up against their government because the last time they tried that...their government slaughtered tens of thousands of them in the streets! The IRGC has guns. The average Iranian does not. Duh?

The IRGC has guns but Iran has 89 million other people and the IRGC's a bit distracted at the moment. If people wanted to they could flee, they could take advantage of the bombardment. I'm sure some Iranians have tried to flee for their own survival and safety, but many more Iranians are clearly siding with the IRGC and their government and will fight the aggressors to the end.

Again, let me know when Hormuz is not controlled and tolled by the Iranians. I'll wait.

 

[multivita-man]

You have no idea how it works, clearly.

It is a resource machine with sources. Check the sources if you don't like the message.

Show me where China is pressuring Iran to open the Strait right now. They're not. They're focused on getting their oil & gas from Iran, which will exempt China from the toll in exchange for military and economic support, which China has been giving them from day one.

 

[multivita-man]

So put up those links, here's mine:

Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

More than 36,500 Iranians were killed by security forces during the January 8-9 crackdown on nationwide protests, making it the deadliest two-day protest massacre in history, according to documents reviewed by Iran International's Editorial Board.

www.iranintl.com

Latest Human Rights Report: 43,000 Killed in the Crackdown on Protests in Iran For Immediate Release - International Centre for Human Rights

International Center for Human Rights in Iran Toronto, Canada – January 20, 2026 Based on conducted investigations, field research, verification of received images and videos, and interviews with multiple sources inside Iran, at least 43,000 people have so far been killed by agents of the...

humanrightsintl.com

Iran: Growing Evidence of Countrywide Massacres

Iran’s security forces have carried out mass killings of protesters after nationwide protests escalated on January 8, 2026. Thousands of protesters and bystanders are believed to have been killed.

www.hrw.org

Witnesses also said that many bodies were at Tehran’s Behesht-e Zahra Cemetery Complex, 600 meters from the Kahrizak morgue. One person who went to identify the body of a loved one on January 10 said: “When we got close to the [large] halls, we saw bodies piled on top of bodies. They were in body bags, and some had tags with identification details. From the size of the halls, I could estimate that between 1,500 to 2,000 bodies were held there.” The witness said that more bodies were arriving by refrigerated trucks in the late afternoon when they were leaving the cemetery.

NY Times cited the death toll from Iranian official 'sources' at 3,000. Even if you think they're underreporting, they're not anywhere close to the total claimed by Western "sources." Those "sources" are posting bullshit propaganda put out by the US, Israel, and the Iranian diaspora.

What role does Mossad play in Iranian protests? | The Jerusalem Post

When it comes to the spy agency and Iran, there is always far more than meets the eye.

www.jpost.com

Following the war, Mossad Director David Barnea released a rare and shocking statement, foreshadowing the spy agency’s activities in Tehran. Israel “will [continue to] be there, like we have been there,” he told the Mossad and the general public.

On December 29, what is dubbed the Mossad X/Twitter account in Farsi encouraged Iranians to protest against the Iranian regime, telling them that it is literally physically with them at the demonstrations.

“Go out together into the streets. The time has come,” the Mossad wrote. “We are with you,” it added. “Not only from a distance and verbally. We are with you in the field.”

 

[toomuchtime_]

There is always reason to doubt US statements, especially, Trump's posts in Truth social. He loves loud words and empty statements. And, say, Middle East Spectator posted that Chines ships are ready to pay tolls, they just don't want to name it "tolls".

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And if America also allows Chinese ships go through "counterblockade", it practically means effective end of it.


It simply not true. It was still popular in 20th century, and even now many people use it. Especially Orientals.

Yet another full of shit post from you. The fact is the Chinese government has not objected to the US statement about the situation in the war, so there is no reason to doubt it.

It is racist to refer to the people of Asia as oriental.

 

[SaxonJackson]

I have been a solid libtard since the 00s, but I find myself gravitating more toward the Massie wing of the Republican party when it comes to foreign policy lately. The Dem leadership sucks just as bad the GOP IMO. Massie, MTG...they get it. I think a lot of Dems get it as well but they're just too chickenshit to come out and say it.

Similarly ... I was a typical, RepubliCON NeoCON for many years. Voted Republican no matter what. Both Bush boys; John McCain; Mitt Romney; Trump; and other Globalists pretending to be a Conservative. It's been pretty recent that I've come to realize who actually puts America First and seeks to preserve the Constitution and who doesn't. Massie in about the best we can hope for.

 

[kyzr]

NY Times cited the death toll from Iranian official 'sources' at 3,000. Even if you think they're underreporting, they're not anywhere close to the total claimed by Western "sources." Those "sources" are posting bullshit propaganda put out by the US, Israel, and the Iranian diaspora.

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The NYT quotes "official Iranian sources". Both are total bullshit.

I quoted independent sources.

So what if Mossad instigated the protests? I hope Mossad gets the Artesh to oppose the IRGC.

 

[toomuchtime_]

But there is no reason to believe US statements, either. When Oriental people say "yes" or just keep silence, it doesn't mean that they agree with you. It also may mean that they had listened you.

Again there is no reason to doubt the US statement about the meeting.

 

[multivita-man]

The NYT quotes "official Iranian sources". Both are total bullshit.

I quoted independent sources.

"Independent" sources that post ridiculous numbers. These numbers are like the claims about 35,000 Russian deaths per month. It's total horse shit. You don't have to be an Iran-sympathizer to understand how stupid the decision to make war with Iran was/is.

So what if Mossad instigated the protests? I hope Mossad gets the Artesh to oppose the IRGC.

It means that most of the "protesters" are not actual protesters. Iran's government understandably, reasonably views these people as separatists who would rather separate from Iran, destroy the Iranian state, and become vassals and servants to Israel and the US. Rightly, Iran concludes these are not protestors; they are traitors. And even in this country, traitors are punished by death.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Show me where China is pressuring Iran to open the Strait right now. They're not. They're focused on getting their oil & gas from Iran, which will exempt China from the toll in exchange for military and economic support, which China has been giving them from day one.

You make the case. You have given an opinion, which is nothing.

 

[jacksonlamb]

"Independent" sources that post ridiculous numbers. These numbers are like the claims about 35,000 Russian deaths per month. It's total horse shit. You don't have to be an Iran-sympathizer to understand how stupid the decision to make war with Iran was/is.
It means that most of the "protesters" are not actual protesters. Iran's government understandably, reasonably views these people as separatists who would rather separate from Iran, destroy the Iranian state, and become vassals and servants to Israel and the US. Rightly, Iran concludes these are not protestors; they are traitors. And even in this country, traitors are punished by death.

What has been the monthly average Russian death total in Ukraine?

The most reliable monthly average of Russian deaths in Ukraine comes from NATO’s January 2026 assessment, which estimated:

20,000–25,000 Russian soldiers killed per month.

This figure refers specifically to killed, not total casualties (which would include wounded and missing). It is consistent with a second NATO‑sourced report stating the same 20,000–25,000 killed monthly range.

militarnyi.com/en/news/nato-estimates-russian-army-s-monthly-casualties-at-20-000-25-000-killed/?utm_source=copilot.com