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And the fact Charles Winters was not prosecuted for his obvious violations of law and treaty
What laws? What treaties? Link?
I already listed the laws, treaties, and British statements, so you clearly are just spamming.
What law did Winters violate? What treaty?
There was a UN embargo on arms to the Mideast participants in hostilities.
As a signature of the UN, that made it illegal under US law.
There was a UN embargo on arms to the Mideast participants in hostilities.
Hostilities? You mean when the couple of dozen Arabs invaded?
Now you said Israel got 50 bombers and 50 Mustangs from the US.
What did they really get? 3 or 4? LOL!
RE: The NEWER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate
SUBTOPIC: Outcomes
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: The term "win" or "lose" in the regards to combat gains or losses is rather an obsolete line of thought and termonology. It is an unsophisticate and crude (over symplistic) way of stating the nature of territorial control, political achivements, and battle engagements.
(COMMENT)What did Israel win and from whom?
More territory. From Mandate land held by no other nation.
When you talk about accomplishments at the stratigic advvantages of a region (militarily economically, diplomatically, territrorially, etc), you are better able to discuss the degree to which the nature of territorial control, political achivements, and battlefield assessments of victories might be practically discussed.
To suggest that Israel won or lost any of the territory it is now in control of and responsible → is just as absurd as questioning the "win" • "loss" statistics as if it were a game. Anyone who (like myself) has been to Afganistan, Iraq, Vietnam, or Yemen knows better then to treat it as a game. There is no real rule book.
If you apply deeper meaning into the what our friend "toddsterpatriot" said, there is something about it that rings true. After the UN Charter (1945) became effective the monitoing of the territory formerly under the Mandate for Palestine fell under the responsibility of International Trusteeship System; less - of course, that which was earmarked the Jewish State and the Arab State.
The Arab League States (in particular Egypt and Jordan) took control of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, and Jersualem. The first established a Military Governship and the second Annex the territory by extending Sovereignty. Was the territory "won" or "lost"? (RHETORICAL) NO... You can see that the duration of control was temporary, not all that long. By 1988, the Irsaelis had extended - what was termed → "effective control." And while we may argue about what the meaning is for these terms, the one "fact" is that until 2006, the Arab Palestinians had no real control over the political agency of control for became segmented.
In this little description you can see why the terms "win" or "loss" are not really descriptive. An "occupation" is defined by Article 42 of the 1907 Hague Regulations (HR). It is very clear and uncomplicated.
"Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army.The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised."
(QUESTIONS)
When an Army extends over more territory than what they started with, what is that called?
When a Political Entity is offered more territory during the peace before a conflict → than it controls at the end of the conflict, what is that called?
(Ω)
The "Tinmore" question is very symplistic, too simplistic to answer.
.
Most Respectfully,
R
By the end of the war Israel had "control" of 78% of Palestine.To suggest that Israel won or lost any of the territory it is now in control of and responsible
Israel stole Jerusalem and the West Bank from Palestine,
Palestine? Sweet!!!
Who were the elected leaders of this "Palestine" you speak of?
What was their currency? Who was in charge of their central bank?
What were the interest rates on their debt the day before their land was stolen?
You have any links to back you up?
Besides that cloud of bong smoke you keep pulling your info from?
Abbas is the temporary elected leader since the Israelis assassinated the previous Hamas president.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Abbas is the temporary elected leader
I know he's old, but he wasn't their leader back in the 60s.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Not when you claim something was stolen. Try again?
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
{... An Arab summit meeting in Cairo in 1964 led to the formation of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). A political umbrella organization of several Palestinian groups, the PLO thereafter consistently claimed to be the sole representative of all Palestinian people. Its first leader was Aḥmad Shuqayrī, a protégé of Egypt.
...
Several years before the creation of the PLO, a secret organization had been formed: the Palestine National Liberation Movement (Ḥarakat al-Taḥrīr al-Waṭanī al-Filasṭīnī), known from a reversal of its Arabic initials as Fatah. ...}
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
Zionist murdered, looted, and stole hundreds of Arab villages from the native Palestinians.
{...
If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab population, who either were driven out by Zionist military forces before May 15, 1948, or by the Israeli army after that date or fled for fear of violence by these forces. Many wealthy merchants and leading urban notables from Jaffa, Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Jerusalem fled to Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan, while the middle class tended to move to all-Arab towns such as Nāblus and Nazareth. The majority of fellahin ended up in refugee camps. More than 400 Arab villages disappeared, and Arab life in the coastal cities (especially Jaffa and Haifa) virtually disintegrated.
...}
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict: If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab...www.britannica.com
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
Especially in the 1920s.
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
How can you steal land from a country that has no leaders and no currency?
Now, tell me more about those 100 US planes you smoked up.......
And the fact Charles Winters was not prosecuted for his obvious violations of law and treaty
What laws? What treaties? Link?
I already listed the laws, treaties, and British statements, so you clearly are just spamming.
What law did Winters violate? What treaty?
There was a UN embargo on arms to the Mideast participants in hostilities.
As a signature of the UN, that made it illegal under US law.
There was a UN embargo on arms to the Mideast participants in hostilities.
Hostilities? You mean when the couple of dozen Arabs invaded?
Now you said Israel got 50 bombers and 50 Mustangs from the US.
What did they really get? 3 or 4? LOL!
As was explained many times, no one ever invaded.
What happened is Zionist massacred over 400 Arab villages in Israel, and the Arab neighbors tried to stop the murders.
Wrong.
They got 3 or 4 at a time because they were trying to hide their existence.
But they obviously had a full US trained air force.
Why not bring up a document from 1922 where the Arabs living in the area did not yet establish a nation?Palestine legally existed in 1920 by the Allies and Axis powers signing the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres.
You're lying.
There were not to be any Jewish involvement in the government of Palestine.
What government of Palestine?
You are obviously confused.
The only way to learn the truth is by reading what the British had to say about the British Mandate for Palestine.
So the Churchill Whitepaper of 1922 is a quick synopsis.
{...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."
It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.
Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}
That clearly proves Palestine was to be Moslem Arab, independent rule.
Jews were only to be allowed facilitated immigration to a Jewish homeland WITHIN this independent Moslem, Arab, Palestine.
The Zionist Organization has pledged to never want any participation in rule, in the 1921 Carlsbad conference.
O! You did!
You are stupid.
The nation of Palestine was created by the 1920 treaties.
What the Palestinians had not yet created was a government, so then the British were mandated to hold their hand until they were ready.
They were ready in May 1948.
Israeli Declaration of Independence - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Arab "Palestinians", still not ready.......
Obviously the Palestinians are not ready because they were illegally invaded by Israel.
To be ready, they would need arms and an army that could defend themselves.
And the illegal occupation by Israel prevents that.
Obviously the Palestinians are not ready because they were illegally invaded by Israel.
Back in the 1920s, when the nation of Palestine was created by treaty? Sneaky Jews.
To be ready, they would need arms and an army that could defend themselves.
And they'd have to work at it. Their whining doesn't count as work.
Israel stole Jerusalem and the West Bank from Palestine,
Palestine? Sweet!!!
Who were the elected leaders of this "Palestine" you speak of?
What was their currency? Who was in charge of their central bank?
What were the interest rates on their debt the day before their land was stolen?
You have any links to back you up?
Besides that cloud of bong smoke you keep pulling your info from?
Abbas is the temporary elected leader since the Israelis assassinated the previous Hamas president.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Abbas is the temporary elected leader
I know he's old, but he wasn't their leader back in the 60s.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Not when you claim something was stolen. Try again?
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
{... An Arab summit meeting in Cairo in 1964 led to the formation of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). A political umbrella organization of several Palestinian groups, the PLO thereafter consistently claimed to be the sole representative of all Palestinian people. Its first leader was Aḥmad Shuqayrī, a protégé of Egypt.
...
Several years before the creation of the PLO, a secret organization had been formed: the Palestine National Liberation Movement (Ḥarakat al-Taḥrīr al-Waṭanī al-Filasṭīnī), known from a reversal of its Arabic initials as Fatah. ...}
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
Zionist murdered, looted, and stole hundreds of Arab villages from the native Palestinians.
{...
If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab population, who either were driven out by Zionist military forces before May 15, 1948, or by the Israeli army after that date or fled for fear of violence by these forces. Many wealthy merchants and leading urban notables from Jaffa, Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Jerusalem fled to Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan, while the middle class tended to move to all-Arab towns such as Nāblus and Nazareth. The majority of fellahin ended up in refugee camps. More than 400 Arab villages disappeared, and Arab life in the coastal cities (especially Jaffa and Haifa) virtually disintegrated.
...}
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict: If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab...
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
Especially in the 1920s.
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
How can you steal land from a country that has no leaders and no currency?
Now, tell me more about those 100 US planes you smoked up.......
That is stupid.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
And Zionists murdered natives in order to steal their homes.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
That is trillions that need to get paid back.
Yes, the Zionists were attacking the natives way back in the 1920s.
And the fact Charles Winters was not prosecuted for his obvious violations of law and treaty
What laws? What treaties? Link?
I already listed the laws, treaties, and British statements, so you clearly are just spamming.
What law did Winters violate? What treaty?
There was a UN embargo on arms to the Mideast participants in hostilities.
As a signature of the UN, that made it illegal under US law.
There was a UN embargo on arms to the Mideast participants in hostilities.
Hostilities? You mean when the couple of dozen Arabs invaded?
Now you said Israel got 50 bombers and 50 Mustangs from the US.
What did they really get? 3 or 4? LOL!
As was explained many times, no one ever invaded.
What happened is Zionist massacred over 400 Arab villages in Israel, and the Arab neighbors tried to stop the murders.
Wrong.
They got 3 or 4 at a time because they were trying to hide their existence.
But they obviously had a full US trained air force.
As was explained many times, no one ever invaded.
Then how did the couple of dozen Arabs get from their home country to where the Jews beat them?
They got 3 or 4 at a time
Or 3 or 4 total.
The Jews did not beat the Arabs in 1948.
Israel stole Jerusalem and the West Bank from Palestine,
Palestine? Sweet!!!
Who were the elected leaders of this "Palestine" you speak of?
What was their currency? Who was in charge of their central bank?
What were the interest rates on their debt the day before their land was stolen?
You have any links to back you up?
Besides that cloud of bong smoke you keep pulling your info from?
Abbas is the temporary elected leader since the Israelis assassinated the previous Hamas president.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Abbas is the temporary elected leader
I know he's old, but he wasn't their leader back in the 60s.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Not when you claim something was stolen. Try again?
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
{... An Arab summit meeting in Cairo in 1964 led to the formation of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). A political umbrella organization of several Palestinian groups, the PLO thereafter consistently claimed to be the sole representative of all Palestinian people. Its first leader was Aḥmad Shuqayrī, a protégé of Egypt.
...
Several years before the creation of the PLO, a secret organization had been formed: the Palestine National Liberation Movement (Ḥarakat al-Taḥrīr al-Waṭanī al-Filasṭīnī), known from a reversal of its Arabic initials as Fatah. ...}
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
Zionist murdered, looted, and stole hundreds of Arab villages from the native Palestinians.
{...
If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab population, who either were driven out by Zionist military forces before May 15, 1948, or by the Israeli army after that date or fled for fear of violence by these forces. Many wealthy merchants and leading urban notables from Jaffa, Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Jerusalem fled to Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan, while the middle class tended to move to all-Arab towns such as Nāblus and Nazareth. The majority of fellahin ended up in refugee camps. More than 400 Arab villages disappeared, and Arab life in the coastal cities (especially Jaffa and Haifa) virtually disintegrated.
...}
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict: If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab...
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
Especially in the 1920s.
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
How can you steal land from a country that has no leaders and no currency?
Now, tell me more about those 100 US planes you smoked up.......
That is stupid.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
And Zionists murdered natives in order to steal their homes.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
That is trillions that need to get paid back.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
Yeah, but talking about the Ottoman owners is so boring.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
6 million Jews got their homes from a couple hundred thousand Palestinians? Sounds crowded.
The Jews did not beat the Arabs in 1948.
Did the Jews lose in 1948?
The Ottoman invaders were rulers, not owners of individual plots of land.Israel stole Jerusalem and the West Bank from Palestine,
Palestine? Sweet!!!
Who were the elected leaders of this "Palestine" you speak of?
What was their currency? Who was in charge of their central bank?
What were the interest rates on their debt the day before their land was stolen?
You have any links to back you up?
Besides that cloud of bong smoke you keep pulling your info from?
Abbas is the temporary elected leader since the Israelis assassinated the previous Hamas president.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Abbas is the temporary elected leader
I know he's old, but he wasn't their leader back in the 60s.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Not when you claim something was stolen. Try again?
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
{... An Arab summit meeting in Cairo in 1964 led to the formation of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). A political umbrella organization of several Palestinian groups, the PLO thereafter consistently claimed to be the sole representative of all Palestinian people. Its first leader was Aḥmad Shuqayrī, a protégé of Egypt.
...
Several years before the creation of the PLO, a secret organization had been formed: the Palestine National Liberation Movement (Ḥarakat al-Taḥrīr al-Waṭanī al-Filasṭīnī), known from a reversal of its Arabic initials as Fatah. ...}
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
Zionist murdered, looted, and stole hundreds of Arab villages from the native Palestinians.
{...
If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab population, who either were driven out by Zionist military forces before May 15, 1948, or by the Israeli army after that date or fled for fear of violence by these forces. Many wealthy merchants and leading urban notables from Jaffa, Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Jerusalem fled to Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan, while the middle class tended to move to all-Arab towns such as Nāblus and Nazareth. The majority of fellahin ended up in refugee camps. More than 400 Arab villages disappeared, and Arab life in the coastal cities (especially Jaffa and Haifa) virtually disintegrated.
...}
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict: If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab...
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
Especially in the 1920s.
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
How can you steal land from a country that has no leaders and no currency?
Now, tell me more about those 100 US planes you smoked up.......
That is stupid.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
And Zionists murdered natives in order to steal their homes.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
That is trillions that need to get paid back.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
Yeah, but talking about the Ottoman owners is so boring.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
6 million Jews got their homes from a couple hundred thousand Palestinians? Sounds crowded.
Wrong.
The Ottoman invaders were rulers, not owners of individual plots of land.
The Palestinians had ownership of all the plots of land, including all of Israel.
There is hardly a parcel in Israel that is not actually legally owned by Arabs.
The exception would be the Old Jewish Quarter of the West Bank, where some native Jews lived.
And no, over a million Arabs were illegally displaced by Zionists.
www.researchgate.net
Yes, the goal of the Jews in the 1948 war was the invasion of the West Bank,
Yes, the Zionists were attacking the natives way back in the 1920s.
Did the Jews invade the "country" of "Palestine"?
The Ottoman invaders were rulers, not owners of individual plots of land.Israel stole Jerusalem and the West Bank from Palestine,
Palestine? Sweet!!!
Who were the elected leaders of this "Palestine" you speak of?
What was their currency? Who was in charge of their central bank?
What were the interest rates on their debt the day before their land was stolen?
You have any links to back you up?
Besides that cloud of bong smoke you keep pulling your info from?
Abbas is the temporary elected leader since the Israelis assassinated the previous Hamas president.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Abbas is the temporary elected leader
I know he's old, but he wasn't their leader back in the 60s.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Not when you claim something was stolen. Try again?
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
{... An Arab summit meeting in Cairo in 1964 led to the formation of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). A political umbrella organization of several Palestinian groups, the PLO thereafter consistently claimed to be the sole representative of all Palestinian people. Its first leader was Aḥmad Shuqayrī, a protégé of Egypt.
...
Several years before the creation of the PLO, a secret organization had been formed: the Palestine National Liberation Movement (Ḥarakat al-Taḥrīr al-Waṭanī al-Filasṭīnī), known from a reversal of its Arabic initials as Fatah. ...}
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
Zionist murdered, looted, and stole hundreds of Arab villages from the native Palestinians.
{...
If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab population, who either were driven out by Zionist military forces before May 15, 1948, or by the Israeli army after that date or fled for fear of violence by these forces. Many wealthy merchants and leading urban notables from Jaffa, Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Jerusalem fled to Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan, while the middle class tended to move to all-Arab towns such as Nāblus and Nazareth. The majority of fellahin ended up in refugee camps. More than 400 Arab villages disappeared, and Arab life in the coastal cities (especially Jaffa and Haifa) virtually disintegrated.
...}
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict: If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab...
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
Especially in the 1920s.
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
How can you steal land from a country that has no leaders and no currency?
Now, tell me more about those 100 US planes you smoked up.......
That is stupid.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
And Zionists murdered natives in order to steal their homes.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
That is trillions that need to get paid back.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
Yeah, but talking about the Ottoman owners is so boring.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
6 million Jews got their homes from a couple hundred thousand Palestinians? Sounds crowded.
Wrong.
The Ottoman invaders were rulers, not owners of individual plots of land.
The Palestinians had ownership of all the plots of land, including all of Israel.
There is hardly a parcel in Israel that is not actually legally owned by Arabs.
The exception would be the Old Jewish Quarter of the West Bank, where some native Jews lived.
And no, over a million Arabs were illegally displaced by Zionists.
(PDF) Consequences of the Ottoman Land Law: Agrarian and Privatization Processes in Palestine, 1858–1918
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The Palestinians had ownership of all the plots of land, including all of Israel.
LOL!
And no, over a million Arabs were illegally displaced by Zionists
I saw your silliness the first time.
So over 6 million Jews now live in those houses. SOUNDS CROWDED moron
Yes, the Zionists were attacking the natives way back in the 1920s.
Did the Jews invade the "country" of "Palestine"?
Yes.
There were over half a dozen so called "wars", but in reality they were almost all just Israel stealing more land.
The exception was the Yom Kippur war of 73, when Egypt won back the Sinai.
www.britannica.com
Yes, the goal of the Jews in the 1948 war was the invasion of the West Bank,
So when the Jews lost, they ended up with more land than they started with.
Just like Germany in WWI and WWII, right?
the Zionists were totally defeated and had to fall back on the UN partition instead.
But they didn't. You should post all 3 maps.....just to prove your claim.
The Ottoman invaders were rulers, not owners of individual plots of land.Israel stole Jerusalem and the West Bank from Palestine,
Palestine? Sweet!!!
Who were the elected leaders of this "Palestine" you speak of?
What was their currency? Who was in charge of their central bank?
What were the interest rates on their debt the day before their land was stolen?
You have any links to back you up?
Besides that cloud of bong smoke you keep pulling your info from?
Abbas is the temporary elected leader since the Israelis assassinated the previous Hamas president.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Abbas is the temporary elected leader
I know he's old, but he wasn't their leader back in the 60s.
The currency of Palestine is the Palestine Pound.
Not when you claim something was stolen. Try again?
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
{... An Arab summit meeting in Cairo in 1964 led to the formation of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). A political umbrella organization of several Palestinian groups, the PLO thereafter consistently claimed to be the sole representative of all Palestinian people. Its first leader was Aḥmad Shuqayrī, a protégé of Egypt.
...
Several years before the creation of the PLO, a secret organization had been formed: the Palestine National Liberation Movement (Ḥarakat al-Taḥrīr al-Waṭanī al-Filasṭīnī), known from a reversal of its Arabic initials as Fatah. ...}
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
Zionist murdered, looted, and stole hundreds of Arab villages from the native Palestinians.
{...
If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab population, who either were driven out by Zionist military forces before May 15, 1948, or by the Israeli army after that date or fled for fear of violence by these forces. Many wealthy merchants and leading urban notables from Jaffa, Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Jerusalem fled to Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan, while the middle class tended to move to all-Arab towns such as Nāblus and Nazareth. The majority of fellahin ended up in refugee camps. More than 400 Arab villages disappeared, and Arab life in the coastal cities (especially Jaffa and Haifa) virtually disintegrated.
...}
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict
Palestine - Occupation, Refugees, Conflict: If one chief theme in the post-1948 pattern was embattled Israel and a second the hostility of its Arab neighbours, a third was the plight of the huge number of Arab refugees. The violent birth of Israel led to a major displacement of the Arab...
Leadership changes fast when invaded by a hostile country like the Zionists.
Especially in the 1920s.
What was stolen was land, so currency has nothing at all to do with it.
How can you steal land from a country that has no leaders and no currency?
Now, tell me more about those 100 US planes you smoked up.......
That is stupid.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
And Zionists murdered natives in order to steal their homes.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
That is trillions that need to get paid back.
Land is owned by individual property owners, not countries.
Yeah, but talking about the Ottoman owners is so boring.
Almost no one in Israel has ever paid for their homes because they were almost all stolen from the natives.
6 million Jews got their homes from a couple hundred thousand Palestinians? Sounds crowded.
Wrong.
The Ottoman invaders were rulers, not owners of individual plots of land.
The Palestinians had ownership of all the plots of land, including all of Israel.
There is hardly a parcel in Israel that is not actually legally owned by Arabs.
The exception would be the Old Jewish Quarter of the West Bank, where some native Jews lived.
And no, over a million Arabs were illegally displaced by Zionists.
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The Palestinians had ownership of all the plots of land, including all of Israel.
LOL!
And no, over a million Arabs were illegally displaced by Zionists
I saw your silliness the first time.
So over 6 million Jews now live in those houses. SOUNDS CROWDED moron
Wrong again, so consistently ignorant.
The Palestinians were almost completely rural farmers, and the Zionist had no history of farming, and lived in urban dwellings on the stolen land.
Yes, the goal of the Jews in the 1948 war was the invasion of the West Bank,
So when the Jews lost, they ended up with more land than they started with.
Just like Germany in WWI and WWII, right?
the Zionists were totally defeated and had to fall back on the UN partition instead.
But they didn't. You should post all 3 maps.....just to prove your claim.
Consistently wrong.
After the 1948 war, Israel ended up with the exact same amount of land as before, the UN partition.
With the 3 maps, the first map was both before and after the 1948 war.
The other maps represent the advances by Israel in the 1980s and then very recent thefts of the West Banks for the construction of the illegal wall in the West Bank.
Yes, the Zionists were attacking the natives way back in the 1920s.
Did the Jews invade the "country" of "Palestine"?
Yes.
There were over half a dozen so called "wars", but in reality they were almost all just Israel stealing more land.
The exception was the Yom Kippur war of 73, when Egypt won back the Sinai.
Yes.
The day the Jews invaded, who was the palestinian leader?
There were over half a dozen so called "wars", but in reality they were almost all just Israel stealing more land.
The Jews kicked a lot of Arab ass.
The exception was the Yom Kippur war of 73, when Egypt won back the Sinai.
Damn, that's some strong fucking weed you're smoking.
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Sinai Peninsula | Definition, Map, History, & Facts
Sinai Peninsula, triangular peninsula linking Africa with Asia and occupying an area of 23,500 square miles (61,000 square km). Usually regarded as being geographically part of Asia, the Sinai Peninsula is the northeastern extremity of Egypt and adjoins Israel and the Gaza Strip on the east.
