The New Birthers - CNN questions Senator Cruz's Citizenship.

[OriginalShroom]

There is no question that Senator Cruz's mother is an American Citizen. None at all.

Just as there is no question that under current law that makes him a Citizen.

So why is CNN questioning his Citizenship?

Can Ted Cruz run for president? - CNN.com

Can Ted Cruz run for president?

While the issue of President Barack Obama's birth has long been settled, and it's a moot point anyway since he's in his second term in office, there remain some people who won't be convinced.

Just ask members of Congress, who even this summer are encountering so-called "birthers" at town hall meetings.

With Ted Cruz, there is no conspiracy. He wasn't born in the United States. But that hasn't stopped the junior Texas senator from courting a possible presidential bid.

The dynamic young senator has traveled to Iowa and other early primary states. If his moves toward a candidacy become more serious, they're sure to spark first a debate about his conservative politics, but also that recurring debate about whether a "natural-born citizen" can be born outside the United States.

Birther-in-chief Donald Trump, who appeared to be running singularly on that issue in 2011, was more restrained when he was asked if Canadian-born Cruz was eligible to be president. "Perhaps not," Trump told ABC News on Sunday.

"I don't know the circumstances. I heard somebody told me he was born in Canada. That's really his thing," said Trump, who could face Cruz in a GOP primary if both men follow through with runs they appear to be teasing.

Another Cruz trip to Iowa raises 2016 speculation

Cruz seems to think the facts are on his side.

"My mother was born in Wilmington, Delaware. She's a U.S. citizen, so I'm a U.S. citizen," Cruz told ABC in July. "I'm not going to engage in a legal debate. The facts are clear," he added. "I can tell you where I was born and who my parents were. And then as a legal matter, others can worry about that. I'm not going to engage."


There is precedent for people born outside the United States making credible runs for the presidency. George Romney, Mitt Romney's father, was born in Mexico to Mormon missionaries. He ran for president in 1968.

For all the ink spilled about Obama's provenance -- Hawaii, people -- it was actually John McCain in the 2008 presidential contest who was born outside the United States.

McCain's father, an admiral, was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone.

Democrats didn't make an issue of McCain's birthright to run, however. In fact, Democratic candidates Obama and then-Sen. Hillary Clinton sponsored a non-binding resolution in the spring of 2008 declaring that McCain was a natural-born citizen.

This is all the U.S. Constitution has to say about the qualifications to be president:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

That's pretty clear. Only a 35-year-old (or older) "natural-born citizen" can be president. But it turns out not be that clear.

Who is a "natural-born citizen?"

Citizen scholarship falls on the side of McCain. He had two American citizen parents and one was working for the U.S. government when he was born in Panama.

Cruz doesn't check all those boxes. His father, a preacher who has delivered stem-winding speeches of his own, has since become an American. But at the time of Ted's birth in Canada, he was a Cuban émigré working for an oil company. His mother, however, hails from Delaware.

Cruz must be scaring the hell out of the Democrats and Liberal Elites for CNN to be running these type of articles so early in the campaign season.

Perhaps I need, we all need, to give Cruz a more serious look.

 

[Sallow]

That's not the question.

Check the Constitution.

He's a citizen. He's not a "natural born citizen".

And you folks made a huge stink about this.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

 

[OriginalShroom]

That's not the question.

Check the Constitution.

He's a citizen. He's not a "natural born citizen".

And you folks made a huge stink about this.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

He was born a Citizen. That makes him a "Natural Born Citizen".

You really need to get your facts straight.

 

[Katzndogz]

Ted Cruz was born in Canada. He is a best a dual citizen.

 

[R.C. Christian]

As vice president could Cruz be president then if the president got whacked?

 

[birddog]

That's not the question.

Check the Constitution.

He's a citizen. He's not a "natural born citizen".

And you folks made a huge stink about this.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

Not true! Obama's case was different. If he was born in Kenya, he would have been "naturalized" because his mother did not meet the age/residency requirement that was law at that time.

 

[Sallow]

That's not the question.

Check the Constitution.

He's a citizen. He's not a "natural born citizen".

And you folks made a huge stink about this.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

He was born a Citizen. That makes him a "Natural Born Citizen".

You really need to get your facts straight.

Um..eyah.

And the same thing would have been true for Obama had he been born in another country. Like Cruz.

Didn't stop you folks.

And still doesn't.

Early life

Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada,[1][9] where his parents, Eleanor Darragh and Rafael Cruz, were working in the oil business.[10][11]

 

[Sallow]

That's not the question.

Check the Constitution.

He's a citizen. He's not a "natural born citizen".

And you folks made a huge stink about this.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

Not true! Obama's case was different. If he was born in Kenya, he would have been "naturalized" because his mother did not meet the age/residency requirement that was law at that time.

 

[birddog]

Should the liberal birthers be called li-birthers, lirthers, or what? Maybe just ignorant liars, huh?

 

[Sallow]

Should the liberal birthers be called li-birthers, lirthers, or what? Maybe just ignorant liars, huh?

Personally?

I don't have a problem with him running.

He'll never be President in any case.

Like Rand Paul.

 

[birddog]

That's not the question.

Check the Constitution.

He's a citizen. He's not a "natural born citizen".

And you folks made a huge stink about this.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

Not true! Obama's case was different. If he was born in Kenya, he would have been "naturalized" because his mother did not meet the age/residency requirement that was law at that time.

Why do you laugh at the truth? Are you ignorant or just a biased dumbass?

 

[Sallow]

Not true! Obama's case was different. If he was born in Kenya, he would have been "naturalized" because his mother did not meet the age/residency requirement that was law at that time.

Why do you laugh at the truth? Are you ignorant or just a biased dumbass?

What truth?

I laugh at your hypocrisy.

It's funny.

Hilarious, in fact.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Sudden and ironic outrage ACTIVATE!

 

[R.C. Christian]

Jeb Bush for prez and Ted for vice. Someone whacks Jeb so then we'll have Ted. Sounds like a win win!

 

[Sallow]

Jeb Bush for prez and Ted for vice. Someone whacks Jeb so then we'll have Ted. Sounds like a win win!

Jeb's never gonna make it either.

You folks really should just face facts.

The only part of the government you have a chance with..is the House.

And that's contentious.

 

[GHook93]

There is no question that Senator Cruz's mother is an American Citizen. None at all.

Just as there is no question that under current law that makes him a Citizen.

So why is CNN questioning his Citizenship?

Can Ted Cruz run for president? - CNN.com

Can Ted Cruz run for president?

While the issue of President Barack Obama's birth has long been settled, and it's a moot point anyway since he's in his second term in office, there remain some people who won't be convinced.

Just ask members of Congress, who even this summer are encountering so-called "birthers" at town hall meetings.

With Ted Cruz, there is no conspiracy. He wasn't born in the United States. But that hasn't stopped the junior Texas senator from courting a possible presidential bid.

The dynamic young senator has traveled to Iowa and other early primary states. If his moves toward a candidacy become more serious, they're sure to spark first a debate about his conservative politics, but also that recurring debate about whether a "natural-born citizen" can be born outside the United States.

Birther-in-chief Donald Trump, who appeared to be running singularly on that issue in 2011, was more restrained when he was asked if Canadian-born Cruz was eligible to be president. "Perhaps not," Trump told ABC News on Sunday.

"I don't know the circumstances. I heard somebody told me he was born in Canada. That's really his thing," said Trump, who could face Cruz in a GOP primary if both men follow through with runs they appear to be teasing.

Another Cruz trip to Iowa raises 2016 speculation

Cruz seems to think the facts are on his side.

"My mother was born in Wilmington, Delaware. She's a U.S. citizen, so I'm a U.S. citizen," Cruz told ABC in July. "I'm not going to engage in a legal debate. The facts are clear," he added. "I can tell you where I was born and who my parents were. And then as a legal matter, others can worry about that. I'm not going to engage."


There is precedent for people born outside the United States making credible runs for the presidency. George Romney, Mitt Romney's father, was born in Mexico to Mormon missionaries. He ran for president in 1968.

For all the ink spilled about Obama's provenance -- Hawaii, people -- it was actually John McCain in the 2008 presidential contest who was born outside the United States.

McCain's father, an admiral, was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone.

Democrats didn't make an issue of McCain's birthright to run, however. In fact, Democratic candidates Obama and then-Sen. Hillary Clinton sponsored a non-binding resolution in the spring of 2008 declaring that McCain was a natural-born citizen.

This is all the U.S. Constitution has to say about the qualifications to be president:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

That's pretty clear. Only a 35-year-old (or older) "natural-born citizen" can be president. But it turns out not be that clear.

Who is a "natural-born citizen?"

Citizen scholarship falls on the side of McCain. He had two American citizen parents and one was working for the U.S. government when he was born in Panama.

Cruz doesn't check all those boxes. His father, a preacher who has delivered stem-winding speeches of his own, has since become an American. But at the time of Ted's birth in Canada, he was a Cuban émigré working for an oil company. His mother, however, hails from Delaware.

Cruz must be scaring the hell out of the Democrats and Liberal Elites for CNN to be running these type of articles so early in the campaign season.

Perhaps I need, we all need, to give Cruz a more serious look.

Interesting they can challenge Cruz's (a minority) birthright claim to be President without being called racist, but you can't challenge Obama's birthright without being called a racist!

Just like the morons who bastardized the birthright clause for their own crusade against Obama, these morons have done the same in their quest against Cruz! Art II, Section 1, Clause 5 - No person except a Natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the adoption of this constitution shall be eligible for the Office of the President...

There are three ways to become a US citizen: (1) Automatically by birthright (meaning being born to parents who are US citizens), (2) Automatically by being born in the US (the bastardized interpretation of the birthright clause of the 14th amendment) and (3) Being naturalized (meaning you were a citizen of another country, then you had to apply, mean the qualifications, be accepted and then you become a citizen. It's not automatic and the person must take conscious steps to gain citizenship).

Art II Sec 1 Clause 5 seeked to prevent the 3rd citizenship type from becoming President. The 1st and 2nd ways are allowable under the constitution. Therefore, evem if Obama was born in Kenya, he still would have been eligible. It was a moot point. Same with Cruz!

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

That's not the question.

Check the Constitution.

He's a citizen. He's not a "natural born citizen".

And you folks made a huge stink about this.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

Not true! Obama's case was different. If he was born in Kenya, he would have been "naturalized" because his mother did not meet the age/residency requirement that was law at that time.

That is true. Stanley Ann Dunham was 4 months shy of being able to transfer U.S. citizenship to Barack according to the law in 1961.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Cruz knows he is not eligible. Notice he doesn't call himself a natural born Citizen as Article 2 Section 1 asks for in order to be president. He only refers himself as a U.S. citizen. That is all that is required in the Constitution to be a Senator or Representative. Cruz is playing this smoothly.

 

[Katzndogz]

The major difference being obama claims to have been born in Hawaii, although that's debatable. There is no question that Cruz was born in Canada and is a Canadian citizen.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Just as there is no question that under current law that makes him a Citizen.

Nope. He was born in Canada. So he's not a natural-born citizen of the U.S.

Sorry.