The myth of the so called "southern strategy" brought about by leftist propagandists.

Errr, I am/was happy to discuss how they have dropped the ball on this issue, for decades, until Trump.

So, How about you drop the shit talk and actually ENGAGE, with me seriously?





Wow. Look at you try to have it both ways, INSIDE OF A SINGLE SENTENCE.

As a lefty, you pretend that the reason that we whites support the GOP is because of RACISM, ie that the rich whites and poor whites, are united in keeping the black man down, yet as a lefty you also need to support the concept of CLASS WARFARE, that is so dear to your marxist hearts.

How to hold completely contradictory ideas?

Simple, just do it, and attack anyone that dares to call you out on it. Also, stonewall, by pretending to be retarded.




So, Trump is deporting a lot of brown people and putting tariffs on a lot of shit coming in from other non-white countries...

Yet, you CAN'T admit thus that it makes sense for working class whites to support him, you have to attack us for being racist for supporting the guy that is FINALLY looking out for us, yet, you also have to attack us for the racism of deporting the brown guys and supporting the guy that is doing it....


You know, back in the 80s, I was a FREE TRADE guy. On paper it made sense, and all the talking head economists insisted that it would be good for America.

In time, it slowly became impossible to ignore that it did NOT work out the way we were promised.

Instead of lying about it, or living in some kind of denial, I switched and started supporting the ANTI-FREE TRADE, economic nationalists like Patrick Buchanan and Trump.

It was easy. I had to admit that I was wrong about that issue, back in the day, but so what? I made the best call I could, based on the information and policy discussions of the time.


But, RESULTS, can not, or SHOULD NOT be ignored. And I adjusted my position based on new evidence.

I now don't spend my time attacking people that point out the failures of FREE TRADE.

I saw this and it reminded me of you

“When life hasn't delivered much.... no wealth, no power, no real social standing.... some folks discover that white supremacy is basically a free membership card to a club that makes them feel superior without requiring any actual achievement.
It's the world's laziest status symbol.
The starter kit is always the same:
☑️
A Confederate flag honoring a war their ancestors lost badly 160 years ago.
☑️
A gun they'll never actually need.
☑️
A Bible they've never actually read.
☑️
And 𝙁𝙤𝙭 𝙉𝙚𝙬𝙨 running 24/7 telling them they're REAL Americans.... unlike those fancy elitist Democrats who are secretly importing an army of replacement voters to steal their....
Their what exactly? Their Dollar General? Their 1987 Camaro on cinder blocks in the yard?
𝙁𝙊𝙓 found the formula, and they never let go of it: Take a man who has nothing, tell him the reason he has nothing is because 'those' people are taking it.... and suddenly he's not a struggling nobody.
He's a soldier in a cultural war. He matters. He's relevant. He becomes a MAGA Warrior!
And THAT.... ladies and gentlemen.... is precisely how a twice-impeached, four-times-indicted, 34-time felon, bankrupt New York con man who golfs at his own resorts became the hero of the working m
 
You still refuse to face facts and just admit you blundered. Again, of the five Southern states that Wallace won, he won two of them by less than 50% and one of them by less than 40%. He lost eight of the 13 Southern states.

Texas was certainly part of the "REAL South," and Humphrey won it. South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and Florida were certainly part of the "REAL South," all of them being former Confederate states, and Nixon won all of them, even though he backed the 1957 and 1964 civil rights bills. So your narrative that the South backed Wallace in 1968 is simply false.

The only Nixon states that one could weakly, lamely argue were not part of the "REAL South" were Oklahoma and Kentucky, only because Kentucky narrowly avoided joining the Confederacy and Oklahoma was not yet a state when the Civil War began. But Kentucky was a slave state and provided tens of thousands of soldiers to the Confederate army. Kentucky was also a staunch supporter and practitioner of segregation. And, Oklahoma was--and still is--solidly Southern in its culture and politics. Oklahoma adopted Jim Crow laws as soon as it gained statehood in 1907 and was one of the most segregated states in the South. Yet, Nixon won both states even though he had backed the 1957 and 1964 Civil Rights bills.

And, no, Wallace did not "run on segregation" in 1968. You don't know what you're talking about, again. He ran mainly on restoring law and order, winning the Vietnam war, cutting taxes, reforming welfare, and restraining the federal government. Here's a segment from his major policy speech at Madison Square Garden in October 1968:

Our system is under attack: the property system, the free enterprise system, and local government. Anarchy prevails today in the streets of the large cities of our country, making it unsafe for you to even go to a political rally here in Madison Square Garden, and that is a sad commentary. Both national parties in the last number of years have kowtowed to every anarchist that has roamed the streets. I want to say before I start on this any longer, that I’m not talking about race. The overwhelming majority of all races in this country are against this breakdown of law and order as much as those who are assembled here tonight. It’s a few anarchists, a few activists, a few militants, a few revolutionaries, and a few Communists. But your day, of course is going to be over soon. The American people are not going to stand by and see the security of our nation imperiled, and they’re not going to stand by and see this nation destroyed, I can assure you that. . . .

You had better be thankful for the police and the firemen of this country. If it were not for them, you couldn’t even ride in the streets, much less walk in the streets, of our large cities. Yes, the Kerner Commission Report, recently written by Republicans and Democrats, said that you are to blame for the breakdown of law and order, and that the police are to blame. Well, you know, of course, you aren’t to blame. They said we have a sick society. Well, we don’t have any sick society. We have a sick Supreme Court and some sick politicians in Washington, – that’s who’s sick in our country. The Supreme Court of our country has ruled that you cannot even say a simple prayer in a public school, but you can send obscene literature though the mail, and recently they ruled that a Communist can work in a defense plant. But when I become your president, we’re going to take every Communist out of every defense plant in the United States, I can assure you. . . .

We are in Vietnam whether you like it or not. I sincerely hope and pray that the conflict is soon over, but we should have learned one thing about our involvement in Southeast Asia—the same thing that Mr. Humphrey now says in his speeches: we should not march alone. I said last year in California that we should never have gone to Vietnam—by ourselves. We should have looked our allies in the face in Western Europe and our non-Communist Asian Allies and said to them: it is as much your interest as it is ours and you are going to go with manpower, munitions, and money, and if you don’t go and help us in Southeast Asia, and if you don’t stop trading with the North Vietnamese who are killing American servicemen, we are not only going to cut off every dime of foreign aid you’re getting, but we’re going to ask you to pay back all you owe us from World War I right on this very day.

I sincerely hope and pray that we have a successful negotiated peace. Well, I’ll drown them out, come on. I sincerely hope and pray that we have an honorably negotiated peace to arise out of the Paris peace talks. I know that you pray that, and that the American servicemen can come home. But if we fail diplomatically and politically in Southeast Asia, we’re not going to stay there forever, we’re not going to see hundreds of American servicemen killed every week for years and months to come. If we do not win diplomatically and politically in Paris, that is, by honorable conclusion of the war, then in my judgment, we ought to end it militarily with conventional weapons and bring the American servicemen home. If we cannot settle it diplomatically and politically, and could not win it militarily with conventional weapons, then I wonder why we’re there in the first place? We’re going to conclude this way one way or the other either through honorable negotiations or conventional military power. (Speech at Madison Square Garden)


He didn't say one word about segregation. Or, go read Wallace's official platform, i.e., the platform of his party, the American Independent Party, over which he exercised firm control: It says nothing about maintaining segregation. Here are the 11 main policy goals that the platform presented and that Wallace ran on:

1. Peace abroad and domestic tranquility at home.

2. An enlightened and advancing educational program, assisted but not controlled by the federal government.

3. Job training and opportunity for all Americans willing and able to seek and hold gainful employment.

4. An alliance and partnership with the private sector of our economy seeking an end to poverty among our people.

5. Efficiency and prudence in governmental spending leading to a helpful and stable economy free from the need for ever continuing taxation.

6. Inclusion of the farmer in our program of prosperity through his own efforts rather than total reliance on government subsidy.

7. Reestablishment of the authority and responsibility of local government by returning to the states, counties and cities those matters properly falling within their jurisdiction and responsibility.

8. Ending the inflationary spiral of the past decade through fiscal responsibility and efficiency in all echelons of government.

9. The orderly and economical utilization of the natural resources of this nation coupled with a sensible program of conservation of these resources.

10. An insistence that the laboring man and woman be given his fair share of responsibility and reward for the development of the mighty potential of this nation.

11. A re-dedication of this country to the love of God and country and the creation of a judiciary mindful of the attitudes of the people in this regard. (American Independent Party Platform of 1968 | The American Presidency Project)


Man, you utterly refuted the shit talk rw was spewing.
 
I saw this and it reminded me of you

First, let's note that you just dropped all previous arguments, without admitting that they were all refuted by me.
That was moral cowardice on your part

But sure, let's move on.



“When life hasn't delivered much.... no wealth, no power, no real social standing.... some folks discover that white supremacy is basically a free membership card to a club that makes them feel superior without requiring any actual achievement.
It's the world's laziest status symbol.

With AI, we can finally get some.... really soft and still probably massive exaggerated numbers on who many white supremacists there are in this country.

ai reports estimates of 25-30k.

That's an insiginifcant fringe.


Also, for calling me a w.s., GO **** YOURSELF OLD MAN.


The starter kit is always the same:
☑️
A Confederate flag honoring a war their ancestors lost badly 160 years ago.
☑️
A gun they'll never actually need.
☑️
A Bible they've never actually read.
☑️
And 𝙁𝙤𝙭 𝙉𝙚𝙬𝙨 running 24/7 telling them they're REAL Americans.... unlike those fancy elitist Democrats who are secretly importing an army of replacement voters to steal their....
Their what exactly? Their Dollar General? Their 1987 Camaro on cinder blocks in the yard?
𝙁𝙊𝙓 found the formula, and they never let go of it: Take a man who has nothing, tell him the reason he has nothing is because 'those' people are taking it.... and suddenly he's not a struggling nobody.
He's a soldier in a cultural war. He matters. He's relevant. He becomes a MAGA Warrior!
And THAT.... ladies and gentlemen.... is precisely how a twice-impeached, four-times-indicted, 34-time felon, bankrupt New York con man who golfs at his own resorts became the hero of the working m
Yeah, you lost the arguments, so you tried to make it personal and race based.


Very typical response from the left.

We need to start really not playing so nice with assholes like this.
 
Man, you utterly refuted the crap talk rw [rightwinger] was spewing.
Yes, and he never admits when he's wrong, no matter how erroneous his claim is proven to be.

He just keeps repeating leftist talking points on issue after issue, no matter how many times those points are debunked.
 
First, let's note that you just dropped all previous arguments, without admitting that they were all refuted by me.
That was moral cowardice on your part

But sure, let's move on.





With AI, we can finally get some.... really soft and still probably massive exaggerated numbers on who many white supremacists there are in this country.

ai reports estimates of 25-30k.

That's an insiginifcant fringe.


Also, for calling me a w.s., GO **** YOURSELF OLD MAN.



Yeah, you lost the arguments, so you tried to make it personal and race based.


Very typical response from the left.

We need to start really not playing so nice with assholes like this.
You guys are all talk. What are you going to do beat us up? Where have we heard that before?

CIA Says Iran Can Outlast U.S. Blockade On Strait Of Hormuz For Months: Report​

The intelligence analysis also allegedly concluded Tehran still retains major missile capabilities despite Trump's claims otherwise.

A recent confidential intelligence analysis concluded Iran can endure the Trump administration’s naval blockade on the Strait of Hormuz for several months before facing more severe economic consequences, four people familiar with the assessment told The Washington Post on Thursday.
The CIA analysis was reportedly delivered to policymakers this week, as the administration tries to convince the public the war has been an overwhelming victory for the U.S. and that the blockade on the major shipping channel has significantly hurt Iran.

The point is, you're being lied to. And it's not us doing it. Time to wake up. You think you won any arguments? Polls show now that only 30% of Americans agree with you. Down from like 47% a year ago. You've lost 17% who now agree with me.

But you're winning. Just like Trump is winning.
 
You guys are all talk. What are you going to do beat us up? Where have we heard that before?

CIA Says Iran Can Outlast U.S. Blockade On Strait Of Hormuz For Months: Report​

The intelligence analysis also allegedly concluded Tehran still retains major missile capabilities despite Trump's claims otherwise.

A recent confidential intelligence analysis concluded Iran can endure the Trump administration’s naval blockade on the Strait of Hormuz for several months before facing more severe economic consequences, four people familiar with the assessment told The Washington Post on Thursday.
The CIA analysis was reportedly delivered to policymakers this week, as the administration tries to convince the public the war has been an overwhelming victory for the U.S. and that the blockade on the major shipping channel has significantly hurt Iran.

The point is, you're being lied to. And it's not us doing it. Time to wake up. You think you won any arguments? Polls show now that only 30% of Americans agree with you. Down from like 47% a year ago. You've lost 17% who now agree with me.

But you're winning. Just like Trump is winning.
Unnamed sources of course. What to believe. Unnamed sources that probably have conspired against Trump since his first term or the Governments actual spokespeople?
 
You guys are all talk. What are you going to do beat us up? Where have we heard that before?

CIA Says Iran Can Outlast U.S. Blockade On Strait Of Hormuz For Months: Report​

The intelligence analysis also allegedly concluded Tehran still retains major missile capabilities despite Trump's claims otherwise.

A recent confidential intelligence analysis concluded Iran can endure the Trump administration’s naval blockade on the Strait of Hormuz for several months before facing more severe economic consequences, four people familiar with the assessment told The Washington Post on Thursday.
The CIA analysis was reportedly delivered to policymakers this week, as the administration tries to convince the public the war has been an overwhelming victory for the U.S. and that the blockade on the major shipping channel has significantly hurt Iran.

The point is, you're being lied to. And it's not us doing it. Time to wake up. You think you won any arguments? Polls show now that only 30% of Americans agree with you. Down from like 47% a year ago. You've lost 17% who now agree with me.

But you're winning. Just like Trump is winning.
Gosh and holy cow. So you want the terrorist regime of Iran to win? You're cheering for the biggest state sponsor of terrorism on the planet, a regime that has murdered tens of thousands of its own citizens. But you're so infected with TDS that you hope Iran's vicious regime prevails. Wow. Just Wow.

Iran still has major missile capabilities? Then how come they've only shot down no more than nine U.S. military aircraft, i.e., including drones? Why are our planes rarely even being fired at anymore with surface-to-air missiles? Humm? If Iran still has major missile capabilities, why have they failed to hit a single U.S. Navy ship with a missile? Humm?

Stop cheering for a brutal, terrorist-funding Sharia Law regime that has been Russia's biggest supplier of missiles for the last several years. Try cheering for your own country, regardless of who the president is. I cheered when we provided weapons, ammo, and supplies to Ukraine when Biden was president, even though I didn't vote for him and disagreed with most of his policies.
 
Gosh and holy cow. So you want the terrorist regime of Iran to win? You're cheering for the biggest state sponsor of terrorism on the planet, a regime that has murdered tens of thousands of its own citizens. But you're so infected with TDS that you hope Iran's vicious regime prevails. Wow. Just Wow.

Iran still has major missile capabilities? Then how come they've only shot down no more than nine U.S. military aircraft, i.e., including drones? Why are our planes rarely even being fired at anymore with surface-to-air missiles? Humm? If Iran still has major missile capabilities, why have they failed to hit a single U.S. Navy ship with a missile? Humm?

Stop cheering for a brutal, terrorist-funding Sharia Law regime that has been Russia's biggest supplier of missiles for the last several years. Try cheering for your own country, regardless of who the president is. I cheered when we provided weapons, ammo, and supplies to Ukraine when Biden was president, even though I didn't vote for him and disagreed with most of his policies.
I think Trump is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism. Trump has murdered how many so far? Israel sucks.

Trump is the terrorist.
 
Yes, and he never admits when he's wrong, no matter how erroneous his claim is proven to be.

He just keeps repeating leftist talking points on issue after issue, no matter how many times those points are debunked.


More and more we see that is the standard behavior from the left.
 
You guys are all talk. What are you going to do beat us up? Where have we heard that before?
.....


In context of your white supremacy blather?

We should come at you for your anti-white racism.

EVERY institution that still pushed anti-white racism, ie "DIVERSITY" or what have you, should be investigated by the Justice Department and sued for violating the rights of their white employees, and/or customers, adn forced to pay and/or fix their services.

If that means they go belly up, GOOD.

Also, all of them, that survive, should be cut from govenrment funding. Because, as soon as the spot light is off of them, they will start working to be racist against.

Education needs purged of lefties and regulated to the tenth degree, to stop the teaching of anti-white racism.

Also, you know that anti-white racism is rampant both in staffing and in the treatment of children. People like you, once given power, abuse it.

So, those lefties need to be held to account, fined, fired and blacklisted.


Hollywood needs fixed too.
 
In context of your white supremacy blather?

We should come at you for your anti-white racism.

EVERY institution that still pushed anti-white racism, ie "DIVERSITY" or what have you, should be investigated by the Justice Department and sued for violating the rights of their white employees, and/or customers, adn forced to pay and/or fix their services.

If that means they go belly up, GOOD.

Also, all of them, that survive, should be cut from govenrment funding. Because, as soon as the spot light is off of them, they will start working to be racist against.

Education needs purged of lefties and regulated to the tenth degree, to stop the teaching of anti-white racism.

Also, you know that anti-white racism is rampant both in staffing and in the treatment of children. People like you, once given power, abuse it.

So, those lefties need to be held to account, fined, fired and blacklisted.


Hollywood needs fixed too.
Every boss you have votes Republican and has an education.

You don't realize why you are anti education. They don't want you to get educated. Settle for less. And believe them when they tell you its (China's fault, liberals fault, illegals fault, unions fault, liberals fault). You are a lost cause.
 
Every boss you have votes Republican and has an education.

You don't realize why you are anti education. They don't want you to get educated. Settle for less. And believe them when they tell you its (China's fault, liberals fault, illegals fault, unions fault, liberals fault). You are a lost cause.
you are an idiot that is racist and stupid.
 
you are an idiot that is racist and stupid.
I'm white, and I advocate for blacks because I know your racist white ass won't hire them unless your company is threatened to lose their tax breaks or government contracts, and yet I'm the racist?

Not you who wants the RIGHT to not have to hire black people? Interesting spin.
 
Every boss you have votes Republican and has an education.
What about billionaires Bill Gates and Mark Cuban, both of whom support and donate millions to Democratic candidates and PACs? How about multi-millionaires such as Oprah, George Clooney, Reid Hoffman, Mike Bloomberg, and Reed Hastings, all of whom backed and donated to Harris in 2024?

Are you aware that Forbes magazine revealed in late 2024 that Harris had more billionaires backing her than Trump did?


You don't realize why you are anti education. They don't want you to get educated. Settle for less. And believe them when they tell you its (China's fault, liberals fault, illegals fault, unions fault, liberals fault). You are a lost cause.

They don't want people to get educated?! Humm, then why do they support allowing education choice so that middle-income parents can send their kids to private schools via vouchers and/or tuition tax credits? Why do they donate millions of dollars to private conservative universities that provide superior education in science, math, business, engineering, economics, and history? What gives?

Speaking of education, your numerous punctuation and grammatical errors suggest your education was substandard.
 
What about billionaires Bill Gates and Mark Cuban, both of whom support and donate millions to Democratic candidates and PACs? How about multi-millionaires such as Oprah, George Clooney, Reid Hoffman, Mike Bloomberg, and Reed Hastings, all of whom backed and donated to Harris in 2024?

Are you aware that Forbes magazine revealed in late 2024 that Harris had more billionaires backing her than Trump did?




They don't want people to get educated?! Humm, then why do they support allowing education choice so that middle-income parents can send their kids to private schools via vouchers and/or tuition tax credits? Why do they donate millions of dollars to private conservative universities that provide superior education in science, math, business, engineering, economics, and history? What gives?

Speaking of education, your numerous punctuation and grammatical errors suggest your education was substandard.

Maybe those billionaires don't mind paying more in taxes. The ones who vote Democratic. I wouldn't mind if I was a billionaire.
 
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I'm white, and I advocate for blacks because I know your racist white ass won't hire them unless your company is threatened to lose their tax breaks or government contracts, and yet I'm the racist?

Not you who wants the RIGHT to not have to hire black people? Interesting spin.
retard I have a black neice.
 
Are you a Lincoln Republican or a Robert E Lee Democrat?

Applying partisan labels across such a time period is.... fairly shaky.

Today I am a fairly radical republican, from an ideological wing, that most would consider radical, or even far right, ie PALEOCONSERVATIVE.

If you want to look at that and apply in this context, LINCOLN REPUBLICAN, you are welcome to, though I don't know what value you would get from that.
 
I'm white, and I advocate for blacks because I know [RetiredGySgt's] your racist white ass won't hire them unless your company is threatened to lose their tax breaks or government contracts, and yet I'm the racist?

Not you who wants the RIGHT to not have to hire black people? Interesting spin.
You are full of hate and false information. You are part of the loony left. Your bigoted, warped perception of conservatives/Republicans is based on far-left delusions and lies. Extremists like you are the reason our politics have become so polarized.
 
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